If they had to launch a sortie in an emergency, how long would it take to clear enough space on the flight deck for a launch?
If they had to launch a sortie in an emergency, how long would it take to clear enough space on the flight deck for a launch?
Hornets are less foldy than I thought, wasn't plane folding solved in WW2?
Hydraulic lines hate being folded, and you cannot use hoses in lieu of because then your planes will just fricking leak from the swivel fittings and unions all the time. There's so much shit packed into every inch of those airframes.
A hornet is also 27 feet longer and 3 feet higher than a F6F hellcat. They're close in size to wing length though.
I was surprised just how much bigger modern jets are the first time I went to an air museum.
A Flanker is the same size as a B-17
probably less than 30 seconds
The entire wing up to the fold is a fuel tank.
T ex Hornet mechanic.
Got any cool tales?
Man, carriers are so cool. I wish I could see one up close at least once.
If you are a bong you can see the Queen Elizabeth docked at Portsmouth whenever its there. There is a lot of shitting on the QE here, but you have no idea how big a carrier is until you see it on person. Its like the difference between a mountain range in person vs irl.
>in person vs irl
Youre living in a simulation, Harry.
They're fricking huge irl, despite being similar in size to big container ships they have much more presence.
I can see her (Gerald R. Ford) from my house right now. Well i would if it wasn't dark out.
You can. The Navy occasionally has events for just that iirc.
You can, it’s called fleet week
I visited a mini-carrier once (Spain's Príncipe de Asturias) and I thought the hangar was the most impressive thing. As in, the upper deck is huge, sure, but that's something you assume already and it's just open air anyways, but it's so weird go down and see a fricking hangar inside a ship. It's then when you realize how huge the thing is. I can only imagine what a Nimitz/Ford feels like.
>I can only imagine what a nimitz/Ford feel like
Imagine a long, narrow concert venue with 6000 people standing in it, and you haven't filled it up
I remember taking a trip to one when I was in the boy scouts. It's like if you took a decently sized warehouse and welded five of them together end to end. It felt super weird because everything like the aircraft and elevators look tiny when you first get inside, then you realize it's actually just because they're really fricking far away and the sheer scale of it hits you. The fact that I was like 14 probably added to this.
Looks like if they move a couple helicopters they could open up a catapult. Hopefully a navyanon knows the time it takes to prep catapults, aircraft, etc.
>If they had to launch a sortie in an emergency, how long would it take to clear enough space on the flight deck for a launch?
they wouldn't, that's not how it works. even to entertain the hypothetical "but what if tho" while also skipping/quickly doing preflight checks they'd probably 15-20 minutes?
They'd need to get those Seahawks cleared from the No. 3 and 4 catapults.
the carrier wouldnt have 40 planes displayed on the deck in an emergency
if it wasn't unexpectedly emergent it can't be an "emergency"
If there was any chance of needing to lunch inside a couple hours you'd have jets on either alert 5 (pilot sitting in the jet ready to launch) or alert 30 (all preflights have already been done the pilot just needs to get in and start up.
Clearing the flight deck is the least time consuming part and can be done while the aircraft is being preflighted, armed, the pilots getting briefed and signing for their gear.
>carrier is pulling into a friendly port, not expecting any combat
>suddenly one of it's escorts explodes
>an enemy submarine or minelayer or frogmen or whatever the frick you're imagining somehow makes it into a friendly port undetected, approaches a ship, and attacks in what will undoubtedly be a suicide mission, choosing to attack an escort and not the carrier itself for some reason
Ignoring how this is straight out of a Michael Bay movie and is about as realistic as the carrier being zapped by alien space lasers,
>oh no, how will we ever combat this underwater threat if we can't launch our airplanes???
you're doing this really autistic thing where you cope with not being able to think about hypotheticals by creating another condition that has nothing to do with the point of the hypothetical and attack that
Black person I'm just trying to elaborate on the moronic situation you came up with to explain why it's moronic. But please, go on and tell me why readiness levels are dumb because we need to keep a squadron armed and fueled and idling on the flight deck at all times in case the fricking Red October pops out of the seafloor of the fjord like a stingray
>buhbuhbuh I didn't say that
Then what is your point homosexual? Out with it.
are you really that moronic that you cant even discern the point of the hypothetical?
OP is asking how quickly a carrier organized like pic related (in relaxed conditions) will be able to put itself into a combat ready state and be able to launch aircraft.
you keep trying to argue a part of the hypothetical thats completely irrelevant to the point of it
>are you really that moronic that you cant even discern the point of the hypothetical?
So you're telling me that instead of just asking the question of how long it would take assuming the state of the carrier is as we see in the photo, which has already been asked in the OP and answered multiple times and is the point of the thread, you come up with a hypothetical scenario for the sole purpose of asking that redundant question in a roundabout way that you couldn't foresee inviting discussion as to the details of the scenario, just so you can address the question to the poster of a more realistic and nuanced answer? Why even post?
what the frick are you talking about schizo
Sorry, forgot you were moronic and wrote a sentence with too many words. Forget it.
take your meds lil guy
Looks like you destroyed him
Interjecting here to say you're a complete moron, and the other anon has utterly blown you out, what the frick is the point of proposing a 'hypothetical' that is literally impossible? Genuinely what are you trying to discuss here? You look schizo as frick yourself bro.
I don't know i'm pretty sure i've seen videos from this military visionary known as Dahir Insaat who showed with great skill how a vehicle like this could be built.
Couldn't find the video i wanted so here's another of the brilliant inventors creations*.
*Drugs required to operate creation not included in sale
>Quick: stage up every single airworthy aircraft at a single airbase.
>Put hundreds of F16s on a single runway
>Yes, those are my orders
How would you have felt if you hadn't eaten breakfast?
Carriers don't usually stow that many aircraft on the flight deck. The photo you posted is a carrier just prior to making a port visit during which the hanger Bay is usually cleared out for crew traffic to disembark and for media events. When the ship is underway there is a flight plan detailing the scheduled time for sorties which is usually starts in the morning and ends around midnight. During non-sortie hours we have Alert aircraft that are staged to launch if needed. Depending on the operational requirements and general risk of the AOR, jets can be staged to be launched in under an hour or 15 minutes. Alert 15s are the worst since it requires pilots to be staged in the aircraft and catapult crews placed on permanent standby until the Alert status is downgraded. A catapult is also designated at night as the Alert Catapult which is kept clear to allow rapid launch of aircraft to respond to any threat. But a majority of aircraft that are flight worthy vice ones undergoing maintenance in the hanger bay are positioned deliberately by the Handler to allow for streamlined launch and recovery operations while maximizing workable space on the flight deck.
>non-sortie hours
This is surprising to me because I actually thought underway carriers had aircraft in the air at all times.
Can you imagine how much resources that would burn on a three month voyage, or how many service hours that would require?
There is literally an fa18 on catapult 4 in your pic.
Cat 3 and cat 4 actually
Probably Alert aircraft from the previous night before pulling in.
Where do they put the planes when they need to clear the runway?
Hangar bay
In the air obviously
>Not a single F-35
End my fricking life I’ll never see a deck full of them
Well, if you can go to a shore while the USS Carl Vinston is there you should have the chance.