If the new M1 is a next gen MBT why call it the Abrams still? Why not give it a new name?
M1 Schwarzkopf, or M1 Scott, etc.
If the new M1 is a next gen MBT why call it the Abrams still? Why not give it a new name?
M1 Schwarzkopf, or M1 Scott, etc.
perhaps
M1 Coolguy
A regal and powerful tank for fighting in war and armor too.
For fundings because new tank le military industrial complex, so just a humble upgrade package.
>/thread
The same was done with the latest version of the Paladin, which is more or less a new vehicle
its also why the US will never have a new cruiser class. congress mandated by law that the next cruiser must be nuclear powered like the Kirov. so instead we will have XXXL destroyers.
is this good or bad
Good as upgrades are viable anyways. The modularity and durability of the vehicle means they can receive upgrades for a long time instead of repeatedly open assembly line for new hulls. This works even for aircrafts even thought they are more susceptible to structure damage for the stress they stack up and how light they are. Maintenance are better spend over as much active current gen weaponry as possible.
The bad things are not pushing more outdated major armaments down towards inferior reserve units for budget issue, and civilians for insecurity of the state towards civvies and chinaman.
>M1 Abrams
>M1 armored car
>M1 combat car
>M1 Light Tractor
>M1 Medium Tractor
>M1 Heavy Tractor
>120 mm gun M1
>20 mm aircraft gun M1
>240 mm howitzer M1
>37 mm gun M1
>40 mm automatic gun M1
>57 mm gun M1
>8-inch gun M1
>90 mm gun M1
>M1 bayonet
>M1 carbine
>M1 chemical mine
>M1 flamethrower
>M1 frangible grenade
>M1 Garand
>M1 helmet
>M1 mortar
>M1 rocket launcher "Bazooka"
>M1 Thompson carbine
>M1 Thompson submachine gun,
>M1 underwater defense gun
How about naming your shit something else than "M1"?
We should name our equipment with an acronym noting it's maker, then the type of thing it is and the year it was introduced.
>M1 Abrams becomes - GD T80 or General Dynamics Tank 1980
>M16 becomes - A R64 or Armalite Rifle 1964
>M1151 HMMWV becomes - AMG V83 or AM General Vehicle 1983
>F22 Raptor becomes - LM F05 or Lockheed Martin Fighter 2005
Really the army is the biggest sinner here. The airforce system makes sense enough not to need it. The missile designation does too only they like to skip numbers around. Aim-260 comes to mind. It's fricking weird.
F-35 was originally going to be F-24 until some moron misspoke at a press conference
Would it have cost $24,000 per hour to operate instead of $35,000?
M1 simply means the first model
Theres a ton of M1s because, newsflash, a lot of weapons were the first if their kind
Hence M1 carbine was followed by the M2 carbine, and M1 Thompson was followed by M3 greasegun, the M2 hyde never saw service
Not to mention you would need to be autistic to confuse an M1 bazooka for an M1 garand, because humans are inherently capable of understanding nuance
No the army is just moronic.
>newsflash, a lot of weapons were the first if their kind
Yes it's well known the Abrams was the first ever MBT, or the garand the first semi auto rifle, duh.
>Yes it's well known the Abrams was the first ever MBT
Replacing the M60, due to XM-1 being its test designation
>the garand the first semi auto rifle, duh.
First one to be accepted into service by the US army
And they had recently changed away from M-year like the M1903 springfield, hence the original prototype designation of 19XX for the various garands before settling on M1 when it entered service
Also, another major overhaul is to occasionally refresh model numbers back to 1, due to the silliness in some of their weapons such as F-111 and F-117
It actually makes it easier for soldiers in the field to only care about 1 or 2 digits
Only autists will ever mistake an M4 sherman for an M4 carbine because over 70 years have passed between them
> due to the silliness in some of their weapons such as F-111 and F-117
Explain.
They were the last designations handed out before the 1962 tri-service system came into effect and weren't renumbered for reasons and secrecy respectively. Compare, for example that the F-4 entered USN service as the F4H-1F and would have entered USAF service as the F-110.
In all likelihood it's still being built on a M1 hill, hence keeping the name Abrams.
Its essentially just a deep modification. They're probably putting the XM360 in, which might need a rework of the stabilization system. They could never mount the L/55 anyway due to the limitations of the stabilizers, I think it was something about weight allowances if I remember correct. If it were a clean sheet design I could see a name change. This might end up being the M1A3 that never happened.
Why would you name it after the Scott? That thing is trash
It's not next gen.
German names on US equipment is ugly as frick.
Lies. Eisenhower sounds awesome.
That's the Americanized version, the original was Heisenhauer.
Schwarzkopf is just disgusting, as well as "Zumwalt"
>The original was Heisenhauer
The original is Eisenhauer, it sounds exactly the same, they just changed au to ow. It looks fine. There's nothing wrong with Zumwalt either, you asperger.
Disgusting either way, nazi loving scums.
Eisenhower literally fought the Nazis
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2/10 made me reply
Wait for the USS Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. and the USS Barak Obama
They should call it the M1 Jackson. If they are going to take that badass off the 20 for the trail of tears then they should at least name a killing machine after him.
Will It have APS?
>blowout panels blowing out
ok
It will have Trophy APS
because if you give it a new name people are gonna b***h that its a lemon for 20 years