Ah yes, let's invade a NATO state that's behind two giant chokepoints and a sea, into one of the hilliest nations on the planet even worse than Afghanistan, that effectively existed for decades because of its terrain.
Lmao
Even if NATO didn't intervene, Turkey would curbstomp the living shit out of the moskals. They actually do have a military industry and a modern army. They're above and beyond Ukraine in that regard.
Honestly the Turks could probably match the Russians moronation and grasp defeat from the claws of victory.
They purged their military not that long ago and we all know how that works out when shit hits the fan.
Russia could never in a million years actually conquer Turkey, but there would be massive losses on both sides.
>but there would be massive losses on both sides.
How so? Russian forces are getting fricked on an even terrain which is literally at their doorstep. Let's forget the mountains and the shitshow of a terrain Turkey is, Russia has to transport their troops there first which requires them to cross the blacksea. They would suffer high casualities before they even put a foot on turkish soil.
you do realise istanbul and everything worth taking in turkey is on the other side of the country? what would russias objective be in the east? take turkeys job of suppressing kurds?
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Anonymous
>take turkeys job of suppressing kurds?
kek good point
>Russia will just invade Turkey by passing through another hostile country
Bro, they can't even invade a country on their doorstep without taking heavy casualties on hardware and personnel. Russia putting foot on Georgian soil means putting Turkey on defcon 3 so to speak.
If they go through Georgia then they will need to go through incredibly mountainous area constituting most of the country where tanks are of barely any use to even GET to the parts that matter
Not against Turkish F-16 units which have been training with the US for decades and their air force much longer than that. Russia barely has a functioning air force or they'd be having coffee in Kiev.
With what specific forces would Russia inflict such losses? Name the units. Name the bases. Name the aircraft available when Russian sortie rates are clearly pitiful.
I mean, Europe would have a chance perhaps, but Russia would have to go through the caucuses and the sea, and they'd be able to be resupplied via the med.
Russian bases in Syria would be a day one objectives and Russia would effectively be trapped on one side.
>I could see a euro force taking Constantinople
An invading force must expect thousands of causalities in order to tackle that, and we're not even talking about a success. Without taking an ideological factor into account, it's a political suicide for an european politician to report that they've lost three ships and several hundred soldiers on the first day. Oh, and Istanbul has a population of ~15 million?
>I could see a euro force taking Constantinople back
Any siege of Istanbul would be like Stalingrad but times 100, even if you somehow managed to get the useless fricks in the EU to commit to it. You'd essentially have to raze the entire fricking city to the ground and total casualties would be in the millions.
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Anonymous
>You'd essentially have to raze the entire fricking city to the ground and total casualties would be in the millions.
Threatening us with a good time again?
Yeah but Russia would have to use its navy of amphibious assault then since they got not overland route then, and Russian navy is questionable at the best of times
Which would be snuggling with Moskva which was supposedly its premier submarine.
Russia couldn't even prepare to attack without NATO satellite and other surveillance watching the whole process. Russia is no longer credibly capable of serious power projection.
Russia can't even properly fight Ukraine, assuming Turkey was given the same amount of support, realistically way way more because it's a NATO member, what makes you think it wouldn't be Russia tryna last against Turkey
Russia can't even properly fight Ukraine, assuming Turkey was given the same amount of support, realistically way way more because it's a NATO member, what makes you think it wouldn't be Russia tryna last against Turkey
Ah yes, let's invade a NATO state that's behind two giant chokepoints and a sea, into one of the hilliest nations on the planet even worse than Afghanistan, that effectively existed for decades because of its terrain.
Lmao
and nato is a very loosely tied cooperative partnership. if member decides all they want to do is send x amount of helmets and blankets, that will be their obligation fufilled according to the papers
Wtf the frick are you smoking? NATO members are obligated to defend a fellow member state from an attack on their soil as it if was their own soil. That’s the whole fricking point of the organization you stupid moron.
Hello traveler from an alternative timeline, I regret to inform you that in this dimension Russia's black sea flagship was sunk using distraction drones and practically 2nd-generation knockoffs of knockoffs of ASM's. There is no chance for them to actually engage turkey and do anything other than sit around and fiddle their dicks. Please return to your own timeline at earliest conveniece in order to not disrupt this one too much.
While Turkey is doing their best to turn the rest of NATO against them I think we would see significantly more NATO support than Ukraine has gotten like fighters, bombers and long range missiles on day one. >but NATO means everyone has to declair war
Lol, learn some history and realize we aren't going to do WW1 again but with nukes to honor NATO agreements.
>While Turkey is doing their best to turn the rest of NATO
Wrong. Turkeys incursions in Syria, Libya and in Armenia crippled Russia ambitions in those regions extensively. The french and the greeks are the real turncoats when they've decided to side with Russia in Armenia and Libya, not to mention the sanction attempts during the early stages of the Ukraine war. Turkey bombing kurds or cucking swedes is a non-issue on the greater scale. Besides, the majority of the NATO members, including the bulk of the western EU states, are irrelevant militarily.
>the majority of the NATO members, including the bulk of the western EU states, are irrelevant militarily
While this is true when talking about the force each brings their combined forces are significant and base access / interoperability are huge.
Turkey has been testing the west since they were denied Patriots and they have been pulling a lot of bullshit while claiming their own land grab is helping NATO. Honestly at this point I would like to see them thrown out as the straights no longer matter seeing Russia can't project power 200km from their boarder, it just sucks that when NATO was founded they never considered the possibility of a member playing both sides.
>own land grab
Again, bombing the kurds or denying sweden are non-issue. Ofcourse those two things make the civilians a bit mad at Turkey but those don't matter because. >significant and base access / interoperability are huge.
Turkeys unique geographic position makes them THE gate to Asia. Throwing them out would severely reduce NATOs mobility in that area. And even with Russia getting rekt, we don't know what could possibly happen politically and militarily if Turkey would team up with Russia.
>Turkey has been testing the west since they were denied Patriots and they have been pulling a lot of bullshit while claiming their own land grab is helping NATO. >it just sucks that when NATO was founded they never considered the possibility of a member playing both sides.
Turks already get the step child treatment from NATO. Who started it? Depends on whether you think they were justified in invading Cyprus. I mean US gives random countries patriots and javelins but not the Turks, it's kinda bizarre when you think about it.
>I mean US gives random countries patriots and javelins but not the Turks
Because they wanted tech transfer and local production. This whole narrative about the Americans not trusting the Turks is pure nonsense, they trusted them enough to let them join the F35 program for crying out loud.
Ah yes after the stunning performance in Ukraine i can safely say the Russians would take no more than 14 days, they will simply raise their eyebrow and Turkey will understand
Turkey is not only difficult to invade geographically because when you get there you will have to face what is probably the 5th strongest military power on Earth. Also it's a rare self-sufficient country. Turkey has the same amount of troops Russia has but better trained and equiped. Turkish army is more advanced compared to the Russian army. Frick, I didn't even mention Turkey's NATO-membership, 90.000.000 population and the Nuclear stockpile sharing agreement between the U.S. and Turkey. Long story short. Nope.
It's from when Russian propaganda was claiming Europe would freeze over without Russian gas, only for Europe to have an abnormally warm winter.
So only a few months old.
Ivan fricked around and found out. This would be the second round for them except as the second strongest army in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown
It's pretty fortunate for America (and the entire world, I suppose) that China still exists so they have an excuse to keep up their cold war-tier military budget. Otherwise every country would let that shit rust like Russia and the west would be fricked in a big war
>cold war-tier military budget
not even close. early cold war was over 10-12% gdp, post vietnam it dropped to 6% before going up to 8% again in the 80s. now it's 3-3.5%.
I remember those times whenever Turkey did something in Syria or so, everyone did some circlejerking how Russia wold team up with Armenia, Greece and Bulgaria and reclaim Constantinople.
Man I can barely remember what we were thinking when everyone was bombing Syria on opposite sides and we were scared of provoking Russia into an all out war
Honestly, I firmly believe that the US intelligence knew exactly what state the Russian military is in
Continuing cold war propaganda just fit their own purpose since it keeps them and the army funded
They can build up the chinks perpetually since they're never going to cross the line after V.V.'s blunder. The MIC's funding has been secured for decades.
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Anonymous
Yes, they can build up the chinks NOW, my point was that they had to have a reason for their funding after 1990 and up till 2010 or whatever
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, all those novels, movies and video games certainly helped. I blame Tom Clancy for the absolute state of Russia.
This isn't a new scenario and Turkey isn't surrendering.
Russia or any adjacent state bordering Turkey that Russia allies with are the one that'll be losing territory
(OP) >Without direct NATO involvement, pre-2022 Russia:
Russia is fought to a bloody standstill after several months and a disastrous amphibious operation. >Without direct NATO involvement, post-2023 Russia:
Russia curbstomped after less than a month of fighting, NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory. >Realistically:
Total zigger death after Article 5 is invoked.
>NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory
Goddamn, what a kino thought. I'm 32 years of age and this PrepHole post of all things just made me understand why alt history fiction writers do what they do
>NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory.
I can imagine how Macron and Greece do all kind of mental gymnastics to hinder Turkey taking Crimea.
Why would Turkey surrender? The Russians have shown the world they're incompetent buffoons. They've spent a little over a year eviscerating their own military in what is now just a desperate attempt to save face. At this point even without firing off Article 5 I don't think the Turks would lose that fight.
Imagine the case of blue balls it'd leave a lot of the US military with. >SARGE! THEY ACTUALLY DID IT! THE RUSSIANS INVADED A NATO MEMBER! NEXT STOP MOSCOW! >I-I know private... I know... the Turks... they... they didn't use article 5... >*sad marine noises intensify*
If you don't invoke it you don't get help.
It's a defensive pact in that you can invoke it for an appropriate response that is equal to the attack against you, but only if you actually want the help.
It can be politically advantageous to not invoke it for small stuff when the original intent is really only a deterrent for large scale attack or large invasion.
>Larger than Ukraine >Twice the population >245 F-16 Falcon's >678 Leopard II tanks >Over a thousand artillery pieces >Half the Russian military already deployed to the Oryx website
Shouldn't take to long, a few days at most
Twice the size and population of Ukraine. 95% of the country is unsuitable for armored unit maneuvers and artillery warfare.
Russia would need to send literally hundred thousands, maybe even millions to die in mountains only to lose in the end. It would make the Ukrainian campaign look like a kindergarten playground.
I doubt they would be able to even occupy a third of the state before they get btfo'd hard, especially considering it will probably have to be a sea invasion since I doubt Georgia will let them pass through to invade Turkey
Assuming Russia can make it to the border, they may control some border villages before the war turns into a frozen conflict. It's super unlikely that they would just give up, especially now that Russia is proven to be trash.
If Russia is having an horrible fight against a bunch of pigs, what do you think would happen if they go against the wienerroaches? You do know that they can survive nuclear war don't you?
They would call jihad on russkies
was this made before 2022?
Before that Russian jet was downed over Syria
Ah yes, let's invade a NATO state that's behind two giant chokepoints and a sea, into one of the hilliest nations on the planet even worse than Afghanistan, that effectively existed for decades because of its terrain.
Lmao
Even if NATO didn't intervene, Turkey would curbstomp the living shit out of the moskals. They actually do have a military industry and a modern army. They're above and beyond Ukraine in that regard.
Honestly the Turks could probably match the Russians moronation and grasp defeat from the claws of victory.
They purged their military not that long ago and we all know how that works out when shit hits the fan.
Russia could never in a million years actually conquer Turkey, but there would be massive losses on both sides.
>both sides.
Not really.
>but there would be massive losses on both sides.
How so? Russian forces are getting fricked on an even terrain which is literally at their doorstep. Let's forget the mountains and the shitshow of a terrain Turkey is, Russia has to transport their troops there first which requires them to cross the blacksea. They would suffer high casualities before they even put a foot on turkish soil.
vatniks would go through georgia dumb frick. No black sea amphib mission required
>vatniks would go through georgia
Good luck, it's been working great the last 30 years
you do realise istanbul and everything worth taking in turkey is on the other side of the country? what would russias objective be in the east? take turkeys job of suppressing kurds?
>take turkeys job of suppressing kurds?
kek good point
>Russia will just invade Turkey by passing through another hostile country
Bro, they can't even invade a country on their doorstep without taking heavy casualties on hardware and personnel. Russia putting foot on Georgian soil means putting Turkey on defcon 3 so to speak.
If they go through Georgia then they will need to go through incredibly mountainous area constituting most of the country where tanks are of barely any use to even GET to the parts that matter
Not against Turkish F-16 units which have been training with the US for decades and their air force much longer than that. Russia barely has a functioning air force or they'd be having coffee in Kiev.
With what specific forces would Russia inflict such losses? Name the units. Name the bases. Name the aircraft available when Russian sortie rates are clearly pitiful.
Imagine Afghanistan, but more deadly.
Stole this from Reddit (search engine)
But yeah, I would hate to invade turkey via land, sounds literal aids.
Fortunately Non of the bits worth having are in the shit terrain but on the coast
I mean, Europe would have a chance perhaps, but Russia would have to go through the caucuses and the sea, and they'd be able to be resupplied via the med.
Russian bases in Syria would be a day one objectives and Russia would effectively be trapped on one side.
I could see a euro force taking Constantinople back but crossing the Dardanelles would be a bit hard for anyone who isn't America
>I could see a euro force taking Constantinople
An invading force must expect thousands of causalities in order to tackle that, and we're not even talking about a success. Without taking an ideological factor into account, it's a political suicide for an european politician to report that they've lost three ships and several hundred soldiers on the first day. Oh, and Istanbul has a population of ~15 million?
>I could see a euro force taking Constantinople back
Any siege of Istanbul would be like Stalingrad but times 100, even if you somehow managed to get the useless fricks in the EU to commit to it. You'd essentially have to raze the entire fricking city to the ground and total casualties would be in the millions.
>You'd essentially have to raze the entire fricking city to the ground and total casualties would be in the millions.
Threatening us with a good time again?
True, the hill savages are of no concern to us, the civilized valley folk.
Yeah but Russia would have to use its navy of amphibious assault then since they got not overland route then, and Russian navy is questionable at the best of times
>its navy of amphibious assault
Which would be snuggling with Moskva which was supposedly its premier submarine.
Russia couldn't even prepare to attack without NATO satellite and other surveillance watching the whole process. Russia is no longer credibly capable of serious power projection.
Russia can't even properly fight Ukraine, assuming Turkey was given the same amount of support, realistically way way more because it's a NATO member, what makes you think it wouldn't be Russia tryna last against Turkey
It wouldn't be "support". Turkey could request a full NATO intervention with all that concerns that.
They are a NATO member they have the big red article 5 button if they want to push it
Turkey is in NATO, my boy.
and nato is a very loosely tied cooperative partnership. if member decides all they want to do is send x amount of helmets and blankets, that will be their obligation fufilled according to the papers
Wtf the frick are you smoking? NATO members are obligated to defend a fellow member state from an attack on their soil as it if was their own soil. That’s the whole fricking point of the organization you stupid moron.
Dude. Look at what NATO does to support a non-NATO member that's Ukraine.
If Russia attacked NATO member Russia would be crumbsopmed.
Lay off the krokodil
I know this reply is about whether or not NATO would support Turkey in a war but Turkey wouldn't need any support to fend off Russia
Hello traveler from an alternative timeline, I regret to inform you that in this dimension Russia's black sea flagship was sunk using distraction drones and practically 2nd-generation knockoffs of knockoffs of ASM's. There is no chance for them to actually engage turkey and do anything other than sit around and fiddle their dicks. Please return to your own timeline at earliest conveniece in order to not disrupt this one too much.
Wait, this isn't the timeline where NATO dissolved on its own because Russia didn't invade a european country like a massive moron?
If they took it seriously Turkey would fragment.
>invadd turkey
With what army? Via what route? Even without NATO involvement it will be very hard if not impossible
SEAD
Do it and die, vatnik.
Russia wouldn't be able to invade Turkey.
While Turkey is doing their best to turn the rest of NATO against them I think we would see significantly more NATO support than Ukraine has gotten like fighters, bombers and long range missiles on day one.
>but NATO means everyone has to declair war
Lol, learn some history and realize we aren't going to do WW1 again but with nukes to honor NATO agreements.
>While Turkey is doing their best to turn the rest of NATO
Wrong. Turkeys incursions in Syria, Libya and in Armenia crippled Russia ambitions in those regions extensively. The french and the greeks are the real turncoats when they've decided to side with Russia in Armenia and Libya, not to mention the sanction attempts during the early stages of the Ukraine war. Turkey bombing kurds or cucking swedes is a non-issue on the greater scale. Besides, the majority of the NATO members, including the bulk of the western EU states, are irrelevant militarily.
>the majority of the NATO members, including the bulk of the western EU states, are irrelevant militarily
While this is true when talking about the force each brings their combined forces are significant and base access / interoperability are huge.
Turkey has been testing the west since they were denied Patriots and they have been pulling a lot of bullshit while claiming their own land grab is helping NATO. Honestly at this point I would like to see them thrown out as the straights no longer matter seeing Russia can't project power 200km from their boarder, it just sucks that when NATO was founded they never considered the possibility of a member playing both sides.
>own land grab
Again, bombing the kurds or denying sweden are non-issue. Ofcourse those two things make the civilians a bit mad at Turkey but those don't matter because.
>significant and base access / interoperability are huge.
Turkeys unique geographic position makes them THE gate to Asia. Throwing them out would severely reduce NATOs mobility in that area. And even with Russia getting rekt, we don't know what could possibly happen politically and militarily if Turkey would team up with Russia.
>Turkey has been testing the west since they were denied Patriots and they have been pulling a lot of bullshit while claiming their own land grab is helping NATO.
>it just sucks that when NATO was founded they never considered the possibility of a member playing both sides.
Turks already get the step child treatment from NATO. Who started it? Depends on whether you think they were justified in invading Cyprus. I mean US gives random countries patriots and javelins but not the Turks, it's kinda bizarre when you think about it.
>I mean US gives random countries patriots and javelins but not the Turks
Because they wanted tech transfer and local production. This whole narrative about the Americans not trusting the Turks is pure nonsense, they trusted them enough to let them join the F35 program for crying out loud.
erdogan is a moronic roach, frick him and turkey.
Ah yes after the stunning performance in Ukraine i can safely say the Russians would take no more than 14 days, they will simply raise their eyebrow and Turkey will understand
come and take it
Turkey is not only difficult to invade geographically because when you get there you will have to face what is probably the 5th strongest military power on Earth. Also it's a rare self-sufficient country. Turkey has the same amount of troops Russia has but better trained and equiped. Turkish army is more advanced compared to the Russian army. Frick, I didn't even mention Turkey's NATO-membership, 90.000.000 population and the Nuclear stockpile sharing agreement between the U.S. and Turkey. Long story short. Nope.
Turks are more like between 10-15 but they would indeed butrape russians
Russia already got TVRK'd once. They won't make the same mistake again.
>shoots one jet down
>power goes directly to their pea brains
Yup that sounds like turkey to me
>If Russia decided to invade Turkey
Literally how?
Look at a map.
They unironically could do that through Armenia or Syria but ofc it would be a suicide
They can't, that being the point. With what assets could they even supply an invasion unopposed? You must be twelve or brown.
3 days special military operation will suffice
Man these never stop getting more and more cope tier I love them.
There's something unsettling about the way these knockoff countryballs are drawn.
>eyebrows
>pupils
>mouths
Additionally, but not necessarily, countryballs tend to not be perfectly round.
Jesus Christ I thought these bootleg countryballs were a thing of the past, PLEASE tell me this is an edit of an old one.
It's from when Russian propaganda was claiming Europe would freeze over without Russian gas, only for Europe to have an abnormally warm winter.
So only a few months old.
Russia would get annilahted if they invaded turkey and i say this while hating turks
Should only take them a bit more than a year to manage to occupy a bit less than Kurdistan is occupying now
>Russia is losing a war against its neighbor that is all flat terrain and old slavshit
>thinks it can take on a NATO power in a mountainous region
Lol, lmao
>in how many weeks would Turkey surrender?
They would be sucking my dick instead
GOOD MORNING SIR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL
Ivan fricked around and found out. This would be the second round for them except as the second strongest army in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown
It would quickly lead to the rebirth of the Ottoman Empire except more control of Russia as opposed to the Balkans.
so funny how this ukraine war has changed everyones perception of the russian military
It's pretty fortunate for America (and the entire world, I suppose) that China still exists so they have an excuse to keep up their cold war-tier military budget. Otherwise every country would let that shit rust like Russia and the west would be fricked in a big war
>cold war-tier military budget
not even close. early cold war was over 10-12% gdp, post vietnam it dropped to 6% before going up to 8% again in the 80s. now it's 3-3.5%.
I remember those times whenever Turkey did something in Syria or so, everyone did some circlejerking how Russia wold team up with Armenia, Greece and Bulgaria and reclaim Constantinople.
Man I can barely remember what we were thinking when everyone was bombing Syria on opposite sides and we were scared of provoking Russia into an all out war
Textbook example of fog of war.
Honestly, I firmly believe that the US intelligence knew exactly what state the Russian military is in
Continuing cold war propaganda just fit their own purpose since it keeps them and the army funded
They can build up the chinks perpetually since they're never going to cross the line after V.V.'s blunder. The MIC's funding has been secured for decades.
Yes, they can build up the chinks NOW, my point was that they had to have a reason for their funding after 1990 and up till 2010 or whatever
Yeah, all those novels, movies and video games certainly helped. I blame Tom Clancy for the absolute state of Russia.
Not me, i always knew russias army was a very large pile of shit
Day 1 I fully expected Russia to take Kiev within a month, the government to fall and it turn into a 20 year insurgency supplied by the west.
Amen, thankfully we were wrong
Russia will be crushed within a month, optimistically.
Russia b***hed out when Turkey shot down one of their jets
This isn't a new scenario and Turkey isn't surrendering.
Russia or any adjacent state bordering Turkey that Russia allies with are the one that'll be losing territory
never
russia cant take turkey even withou turkey's allies, with turkey's allies they wouldnt even make it to the border
Do you mean like 15 years from now when Russia has managed to build up an army again?
(OP)
>Without direct NATO involvement, pre-2022 Russia:
Russia is fought to a bloody standstill after several months and a disastrous amphibious operation.
>Without direct NATO involvement, post-2023 Russia:
Russia curbstomped after less than a month of fighting, NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory.
>Realistically:
Total zigger death after Article 5 is invoked.
>NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory
Goddamn, what a kino thought. I'm 32 years of age and this PrepHole post of all things just made me understand why alt history fiction writers do what they do
>NATO countries and the EU beg Erdogan not to enter Russian territory.
I can imagine how Macron and Greece do all kind of mental gymnastics to hinder Turkey taking Crimea.
>invade
You need an army for that, anon
About tree fiddy
>If Russia decided to invade Turkey
Then they'd get rekt by NATO. The next time you want to make a thread then put a little thought into it.
Touch the roach and you die
Why would Turkey surrender? The Russians have shown the world they're incompetent buffoons. They've spent a little over a year eviscerating their own military in what is now just a desperate attempt to save face. At this point even without firing off Article 5 I don't think the Turks would lose that fight.
Oof can you imagine the humiliation when Turkey doesn't even call in their allies and still wins?
Imagine the case of blue balls it'd leave a lot of the US military with.
>SARGE! THEY ACTUALLY DID IT! THE RUSSIANS INVADED A NATO MEMBER! NEXT STOP MOSCOW!
>I-I know private... I know... the Turks... they... they didn't use article 5...
>*sad marine noises intensify*
Does a member state actually have that choice?
Yep.
If you don't invoke it you don't get help.
It's a defensive pact in that you can invoke it for an appropriate response that is equal to the attack against you, but only if you actually want the help.
It can be politically advantageous to not invoke it for small stuff when the original intent is really only a deterrent for large scale attack or large invasion.
Thanks for the details anon
Roaches are supposed to be the survivor of a nuclear war. Bears are not.
>Larger than Ukraine
>Twice the population
>245 F-16 Falcon's
>678 Leopard II tanks
>Over a thousand artillery pieces
>Half the Russian military already deployed to the Oryx website
Shouldn't take to long, a few days at most
And 16 Type 209s and Type 214s that can lob the latest MK-48 and submarine-launched harpoons. Russia would be erased from the black sea.
If Turkey does it according to the playbook they would utterly crush Russia.
Twice the size and population of Ukraine. 95% of the country is unsuitable for armored unit maneuvers and artillery warfare.
Russia would need to send literally hundred thousands, maybe even millions to die in mountains only to lose in the end. It would make the Ukrainian campaign look like a kindergarten playground.
/k/ope, roach. Turkey keeps sending troops into the cauldron of Erzurum, to be slaughtered by our infantry. Everyone knows everything
LMAO @ delusional vatnik subhuman, your weak ass infantry would be droned and ATGM'd into oblivion.
Who do you think is keeping the grain trade alive in Ukraine? Russia won't frick with Turkey.
I doubt they would be able to even occupy a third of the state before they get btfo'd hard, especially considering it will probably have to be a sea invasion since I doubt Georgia will let them pass through to invade Turkey
They wouldn't, Moscow would be a smoking glassy plain and every Russian soldier would be dead thanks to NATO.
Let's try to invade a NATO country with 6 km high mountains while we can't even capture a flat town just across the Russian border. What can go wrong?
Assuming Russia can make it to the border, they may control some border villages before the war turns into a frozen conflict. It's super unlikely that they would just give up, especially now that Russia is proven to be trash.
If Russia is having an horrible fight against a bunch of pigs, what do you think would happen if they go against the wienerroaches? You do know that they can survive nuclear war don't you?
>How the tables have turned infidel
At this point I question whether Russia could successfully invade any country that isn't a semi primitive shithole.
No matter how much Europe b***hes and despises Turkey, the truth of the matter is that Turkey is indispensable to Europe's economy/security.
I'd even go so far to say that Europe needs Turkey more than Turkey needs Europe.
How exactly is Russia gonna invade Turkey? Through Georgia, the fricking mountains? An amphibious assault? With what?
They will cross the Black Sea by filling it with the corpses of mobiks. It’s a daring plan that Turkey will never expect.
Anon. Turkey is part of NATO.
Russia would cease to exist in less than a year if they invaded Turkey.
2 weeks methinks
Russia is like 50% turkic ethnicities
They wouldn't invade their brothers
Funny
Brotherhood is a lie.
You're assuming either side would do anything other than sit around base camp drinking themselves to death?
Russia has no invasion forces. You're stupid even for PrepHole. Why did you even post that tripe?