If I'm stupid enough to consider solo caving does that mean I deserve to die? Also, how do you feel about caving in general?
If I'm stupid enough to consider solo caving does that mean I deserve to die?
If I'm stupid enough to consider solo caving does that mean I deserve to die? Also, how do you feel about caving in general?
Yes
Indifferent
There's risk taking and then there's plain stupidity. There's no getting out if you go alone and get stuck and you'll die one of the worst deaths possible.
>There's risk taking and then there's plain stupidity.
fair
>There's no getting out if you go alone and get stuck and you'll die one of the worst deaths possible.
also fair but I'm not sure dying in a cave is one of the worst deaths possible. I don't know any experienced cavers and I would love to find a cave nobody has found before and keep it all to myself, and I can't do that if I have some homosexual there with me.
>I can't do that if I have some homosexual there with me.
you can never escape yourself son.
So it's a gamble, for sure. The likelihood that I will become stuck or seriously injured is relatively low with proper training, albeit much higher than if I were not caving. The potential payoff is a cave all to myself, but the potential cost is slow death in a hole. Do I like my odds? Not sure yet.
the first thing you get taught with proper training is don't go alone lol
Okay, subtracting that one detail...
subtracting the minor detail that if you do it enough you'll inevitably fall, get stuck, or something that would otherwise be minor with someone with you then die?
most 'proper training' wouldn't apply solo.
>most 'proper training' wouldn't apply solo.
Could you elaborate? In order to know that you'd have to have some inside knowledge. Educate me.
>Your problem is you think it’s unlikely to happen to you
Yeah I guess I do. It seems like one could be careful enough to avoid injury/death if they know the risks well-enough.
>collect your darwin award
I'll fish it from a cave somewhere.
>It seems like one could be careful enough to avoid injury/death if they know the risks well-enough.
that guy probably thought the same thing anon
>So it's a gamble, for sure
no, the odds that there is a massive homosexual present wherever you go is 100%, even alone in a cave.
>no, the odds that there is a massive homosexual present wherever you go is 100%, even alone in a cave.
The odds that that homosexual has been inside of your mother are also 100%, even when she was fricking your father.
>but I'm not sure dying in a cave is one of the worst deaths possible
>On November 24, 2009, a man named John Edward Jones died in the cave after being trapped inside for 27 hours. While exploring with his brother, Jones mistook a narrow tunnel for the similarly tight "Birth Canal" passageway and became stuck upside-down in an area measuring 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46 cm), around 400 feet (120 m) from the cave's entrance. Jones was held in place like a hook, unable to move without causing serious harm due to the bends his body was placed in.[5] A large team of rescue workers came to his assistance but were unable to retrieve Jones using a sophisticated rope-and-pulley system after a pulley failed mid-extrication. Jones ultimately suffered cardiac arrest due to the strain placed upon his body over several hours by his inverted, compressed position.
Cardiac arrest. He was under such pain and duress he had a heart attack. God damn.
I'm familiar with the story and I can think of hundreds of deaths that are worse that could occur from non-caving activities. I do understand your point though - dying in a cave can't be fun.
Your problem is you think it’s unlikely to happen to you
its not a matter of it being unlikely to happen to you, if you cave its inevitable it will hence the grim reaper signs they put up in cave entrances
if you have to ask, collect your darwin award
the nutty putty guy was a religious mormon so I'm glad he's dead - he has no problem persecuting others so why should I feel bad when he suffers
>the nutty putty guy was a religious mormon so I'm glad he's dead - he has no problem persecuting others so why should I feel bad when he suffers
You're in this fricking thread too? Who's paying you, homosexual?
Yes.
I go alone. My brother always promises to go with me but he's an indoor person, so I don't ask anymore. If you go alone, accept the risk or don't go. Be mindful of what you do.
Google "Nutty Putty" and read that story. Dude died upside down.......
Guys, everyone knows about this. This is not breaking news. I (OP) knew about this story long before I posted this thread. If I let horror stories scare me away from every hobby I would never have gone skateboarding or even camping.
I won't say you're a fool if you acknowledge the risks, but if you die, you die. You won't get much sympathy, I imagine.
I crawl around under glaciers but I sort of have a "frick that" filter if it gets to sketchy.