I've weathered pretty decent rain with just one, although I did have excellent drainage and also half wished I brought a groundsheet. Maybe rejig your setup to be less wide fricking open?
>right out in the open instead of behind trees >proximity to water guarantees insects >muddy as all hell
OP’s a half pyramid shelter, not a flat tarp. They’re designed mostly for sun and privacy rather than weight.
Guess again big dog >Sheltered from prevailing wind by large driftwood log >terrain and understorey within treeline basically impassable >North coast of Vancouver Island, no insects to be seen >Gomfy sandy beach, no mud to be seen
It looks cool and I'm sure it's lightweight high speed low drag high tech shit, but idk why anyone would go with OP's setup if rain or exposure was a concern when you can get more versatility out of a normal flat tarp.
The tent site it literally surrounded by moron footprints obviously sunk an inch or more into the ground.
Sure maybe that is sand but now you have wet sand all over yourself ad all your shit, which quickly dries and turns into the world's best abrasive to grind the skin off your balls and inner thighs and is all in your hair and mouth.
Plus the retarp is held in place by smooth stones so the slightest breeze will yank it out and cause it to flap all over the place in the middle of the night such that you have to get out and re-stone it while covered in sand getting rained on.
You didn't spend a single night in this setup and just took the picture as a LARP it still has the creases in it from where you took it out of the AliExpress mail pouch.
I have nothing to prove to you but I would like to note there's no need to be presumptuous or disdainful just because I'm comfortable doing things differently than you do. I was there, I made the choices that seemed the best to me at the time, I was comfortable, I had fun. It's not a competition.
This looks like it would have more problems with water flooding in from the side than falling from above, maybe consider a bug net with a bathtub style floor.
no, dummy. normal size is 3x3m. a half pyramid is not a size but it's a different shape to a square and that changes the size.
see my picture. similar setup with one open side to look out from, but way more depth and a front overhang for plenty of rain protection. source: it rained after I took this and I was perfectly dry.
>I can't tell what I'm looking at >to prove it, here's a shitty picture where you can barely see my tarp
Have you ever tried a plow-point-sized tent? I hear they're great
Stupid question. Why are y'all tarp tenting to begin with? Buy a good UL set. If the weather's good just cowboy camp with the ground cloth. If it's poor set up like an actual tent.
It is a weirdly liberating experience. it's not for everywhere, time, or condition, but when things line up and you get a little as possible between you and the environment. Sometimes it's the environment actually meshing with the tarp, when you're pitching over a stump for a little table, or finding a great spot but a tiny sliver of space that a tent would never go. Plus the other anon is right. A good tarp is cheap, and there's options for everything. I think with non-freestanding scratch that itch for most.
>Sometimes it's the environment actually meshing with the tarp
You should smoke less weed.
And as far as as little as possible between you and the environment just sleep dead ass on the ground. Just in the dirt and sticks and stuff and let bugs crawl all over you are sting you and that shit. Be one with nature.
Plus you're doing more of the setup, tieing to trees and getting drainage right, set it up so it's ready for rain and you can tie down the sides and all that. It's a lot of fun. With a tent all that shit is done for you, it's easier sure, but less fun.
However there are times I've been absolutely wrecked and thought frick it it need a good tent id be all set up by now. But when I'm sat under the tarp with a fire just outside and enjoying the view watching showers of rain pass by I really appreciate being in the open of a tarp.
Could have sworn that picture was from here: >https://www.stitchbackgear.com/articles/easy-to-make-shelter
But it's just similar. Instructions note: >While weathering a relatively intense rainstorm in this shelter, I found that overall it did a good job of keeping me dry, but like many minimalist shelters, some water did splash or blow in. >The use of a splash bivy of some kind is a good idea if using this shelter when rain is expected.
If you're set up like in the photo op, flipping the opening towards the wooded area is probably going to help you more than fricking around with a second tarp.
I've weathered pretty decent rain with just one, although I did have excellent drainage and also half wished I brought a groundsheet. Maybe rejig your setup to be less wide fricking open?
>right out in the open instead of behind trees
>proximity to water guarantees insects
>muddy as all hell
OP’s a half pyramid shelter, not a flat tarp. They’re designed mostly for sun and privacy rather than weight.
Guess again big dog
>Sheltered from prevailing wind by large driftwood log
>terrain and understorey within treeline basically impassable
>North coast of Vancouver Island, no insects to be seen
>Gomfy sandy beach, no mud to be seen
It looks cool and I'm sure it's lightweight high speed low drag high tech shit, but idk why anyone would go with OP's setup if rain or exposure was a concern when you can get more versatility out of a normal flat tarp.
The tent site it literally surrounded by moron footprints obviously sunk an inch or more into the ground.
Sure maybe that is sand but now you have wet sand all over yourself ad all your shit, which quickly dries and turns into the world's best abrasive to grind the skin off your balls and inner thighs and is all in your hair and mouth.
Plus the retarp is held in place by smooth stones so the slightest breeze will yank it out and cause it to flap all over the place in the middle of the night such that you have to get out and re-stone it while covered in sand getting rained on.
You didn't spend a single night in this setup and just took the picture as a LARP it still has the creases in it from where you took it out of the AliExpress mail pouch.
I have nothing to prove to you but I would like to note there's no need to be presumptuous or disdainful just because I'm comfortable doing things differently than you do. I was there, I made the choices that seemed the best to me at the time, I was comfortable, I had fun. It's not a competition.
Have fun waking up in the middle of the night when the 5mph winds destroy your setup
Tell me you've never tried it without telling you've never tried it.
Take 5 or 6, stay dry.
This looks like it would have more problems with water flooding in from the side than falling from above, maybe consider a bug net with a bathtub style floor.
if this tarp can't handle rain why do you even have it? buy a normal sized one instead of this dumb pyramid shit and you won't need two.
>normal sized
>pyramid is a size
wut
no, dummy. normal size is 3x3m. a half pyramid is not a size but it's a different shape to a square and that changes the size.
see my picture. similar setup with one open side to look out from, but way more depth and a front overhang for plenty of rain protection. source: it rained after I took this and I was perfectly dry.
>I can't tell what I'm looking at
>to prove it, here's a shitty picture where you can barely see my tarp
Have you ever tried a plow-point-sized tent? I hear they're great
>I can't tell what I'm looking at
what are you talking about
Way too exposed five me.
before sleeping I lower the front overhang, otherwise it's raised with the stick so I can sit up in my chair. it's perfectly dry under there.
Stupid question. Why are y'all tarp tenting to begin with? Buy a good UL set. If the weather's good just cowboy camp with the ground cloth. If it's poor set up like an actual tent.
a good UL tent is 10x the price of my tarp with no real benefit to me personally
>no real benefit to me personally
how about not getting wet?
I don't get wet because I'm a competent person who can set one up properly
>I don't get wet because I am a fair weather camper
It is a weirdly liberating experience. it's not for everywhere, time, or condition, but when things line up and you get a little as possible between you and the environment. Sometimes it's the environment actually meshing with the tarp, when you're pitching over a stump for a little table, or finding a great spot but a tiny sliver of space that a tent would never go. Plus the other anon is right. A good tarp is cheap, and there's options for everything. I think with non-freestanding scratch that itch for most.
>Sometimes it's the environment actually meshing with the tarp
You should smoke less weed.
And as far as as little as possible between you and the environment just sleep dead ass on the ground. Just in the dirt and sticks and stuff and let bugs crawl all over you are sting you and that shit. Be one with nature.
Bugs won't sting you if you have a tarp.
Plus you're doing more of the setup, tieing to trees and getting drainage right, set it up so it's ready for rain and you can tie down the sides and all that. It's a lot of fun. With a tent all that shit is done for you, it's easier sure, but less fun.
However there are times I've been absolutely wrecked and thought frick it it need a good tent id be all set up by now. But when I'm sat under the tarp with a fire just outside and enjoying the view watching showers of rain pass by I really appreciate being in the open of a tarp.
Because we feel like it. We need no other justification.
Could have sworn that picture was from here:
>https://www.stitchbackgear.com/articles/easy-to-make-shelter
But it's just similar. Instructions note:
>While weathering a relatively intense rainstorm in this shelter, I found that overall it did a good job of keeping me dry, but like many minimalist shelters, some water did splash or blow in.
>The use of a splash bivy of some kind is a good idea if using this shelter when rain is expected.
If you're set up like in the photo op, flipping the opening towards the wooded area is probably going to help you more than fricking around with a second tarp.
>in case it starts raining?
If it's not going to rain, why bother with a tarp? If your tarp is useless when it rains, it's 100% useless.
There's a thing called wind an light rain.