If America just randomly decided to become a new Roman Empire and Annex all of the Americas, could anyone stop them?

If America just randomly decided to become a new Roman Empire and Annex all of the Americas, could anyone stop them?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe cartels

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol it'd be almost worth America nosediving into the dirt to see those overhyped gangsters whipped like mangy dogs. I swear they have an almost folk legend status among their idiotic kin

      https://i.imgur.com/UjeSji9.jpg

      If America just randomly decided to become a new Roman Empire and Annex all of the Americas, could anyone stop them?

      I hope the US is never so suicidally retarded as to abandon its soft power in favor of sheer brute oppression. People have mused about America's decline since before any of us was born but it won't truly do so until it does something as wacky as that, or abandoning the rest of the world and going full isolationist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        don't we go kill one of their leaders for kicks every once in a while?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah when they do a little bit too much trouble across the border they magically get assassinated by a "rival cartel"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Every once in a while our esteemed government helps bag an Escobar or an El Chapo. Then like pruning a few leaves of a plant, new growth takes its place. The story is that they help create them but I think its more a matter of the conditions there being ripe for petty warlords, with or without any foreign influence.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no, but why would the US want to take over a bunch of shitholes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no, but why would the US want to take over a bunch of shitholes
      Drugs maybe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The same reason the Romans did. Because they could.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its a hypothetical question

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what if they went the Lebensraum route?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We could turn them into puppet states, then pass laws making deportation an option as a sentence for various crimes. Then bribe/blackmail blue state judges into deporting leftists/morons/Hispanics to South America for minor offenses.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Our political factions would be Jeffersonians (agriculture) and Hamiltons (industry).

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The rest of the world could make it extremely painful for the US by forcibly shutting down their presence abroad, but they couldn't actually stop them. I wish they would at least annex Canada, though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The rest of the world could make it extremely painful for the US
      who?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Europe and Asia, obviously. You think any American bases would be allowed on their soil after that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh no America won't have to pay to babysit eurocucks any more!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how is that extremely painful? oh wow the US loses some bases abroad and now these eurocuck nations (most of whom are begging the US to stay or upsize) now have to deal with their own defence.
            Asia? who in Asia would care about the US going imperial in SouthAm? the Koreans still depend on the US presence for their "existence" and Japan DEFINITELY doesn't care enough about the US invading shitholes hell they modified their constitution to follow you guys into the sandbox
            so where does this pain come in

            Are these posts satire? You know America wants those bases there, right? They aren't there to do the host countries a favour, it's power projection.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              they keep Russia out and don't try to tell me that's not a good thing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not telling you it's a bad thing, I'm just pointing out that those bases aren't there as charity. If they didn't serve American interests, they wouldn't be there. That's not a condemnation, it's just the truth

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              not satire, the US loses SOME bases in europe, ones which are nice to have but aren't key to projecting power. In the incredibly unlikely event that America loses bases in SK and Japan theres still the likes of Guam and Australia.

              so the question remains, where does this pain come in? economic sanctions? the US is one of the few countries that could practice juche and be self sufficient its just better for everyone that the US forces itself to rely a little on the rest of the world.
              the US would not lose power projection in europe or asia, it has its own territories in the pacific and several nations in both Asia and Europe that WOULD NEVER cut ties, that would in fact take bad deals to keep the US on side

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This scenario involves invading canada as well, Australia would not be happy.

                The fact the US could be self sufficient doesn't mean it wouldn't be very bad for the economy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                we're either on the side of Imperial America or Communist China, which do you think we prefer?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the ones that speak English

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You think you have a choice?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The ones who aren’t invading me. I don’t give a fuck about the chinks if they aren’t bombing my cities or executing dissidents like chrasekhar who worked in accounting till an air strike killed his brother so he shot up a checkpoint.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how is that extremely painful? oh wow the US loses some bases abroad and now these eurocuck nations (most of whom are begging the US to stay or upsize) now have to deal with their own defence.
          Asia? who in Asia would care about the US going imperial in SouthAm? the Koreans still depend on the US presence for their "existence" and Japan DEFINITELY doesn't care enough about the US invading shitholes hell they modified their constitution to follow you guys into the sandbox
          so where does this pain come in

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This. Literally only Europoors would care and they could only seethe

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Western Europe would seethe and even then which of those would actually care enough

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Western Europe would seethe and even then which of those would actually care enough

              no we wouln't care
              the commie 5th columnists might

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                on a populace level sure, who seriously gives a fuck about the US going to town on some 3rd world browns. but on a state level you know for a fact that France and Germany would be malding,

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks they can stop us

          All the europeans worth a shit died in the world wars, or we never would have been able to put bases in europe in the first place.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No more england, easy choice

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/tDtM8kV.jpg

            No more england, easy choice

            I choose the re-establishment of the bri’ish empire

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No more England.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

          Oh, are they gonna do something?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the cost and cons of such a thing for america would be massive, and the entire system has been deliberately set up that way. there's a good reason there's been no major war between powers in almost a century

      no, but why would the US want to take over a bunch of shitholes

      America wants hot Latinas to turn into sex slaves. That's the motivation. 4 Latinas for every American male.
      You think I'm joking but wars over sex are the oldest wars of all time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Or we could simply improve the immigration system so we get lots of brown babes over.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No because that leads to men coming over. That doesn't help if the motivation is sex.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm suddenly in favor of this plan.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >his kids speak Spanish

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mexicans would adapt to American culture(as immigrants they already do) faster then Canadians. Annexing Canada would just be cursing us to having an entire country of people from Portland now voting in our elections

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >mexicans
        >adapting to american culture
        Speaking Spanish while wearing a Raiders jersey is not adapting to American culture.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah it is

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dude they are probably more productive to this nation than you are. While they build our buildings you sit on your fat ass. While they give me my big mac, you sit on your fat ass, while they clean my hotel room, you sit on your fat ass. It's to the point where working class jobs favor latinos over whites because they work harder.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gee anon if you import people to work under the table for cash for low wages and refuse to pay for native workers, what do you think will happen?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you'll sit on your fat ass?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're obviously not wrong about
        >Annexing Canada would just be cursing us to having an entire country of people from Portland now voting in our elections
        but
        >Mexicans would adapt to American culture(as immigrants they already do) faster then Canadians
        Is retarded delusion that makes me think you were born in Mexico

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >retarded delusion that makes me think you were born in Mexico
          Posts like that? You can pretty much set your damn watch by it. Or, more likely, his parents were.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I wish they would at least annex Canada, though
      you really want a bunch of blue state voters to join the union? canada can collapse under its own bullshit and once they realize their folly then they will be admittable to the union

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I am a Canadian, so I do want to be rescued and live under the constitution, yes. At least take the western half. It's all oil workers, cowboys, pickup trucks and guns out here. The frogs and soys are out in the faggy eastern half

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the cost and cons of such a thing for america would be massive, and the entire system has been deliberately set up that way. there's a good reason there's been no major war between powers in almost a century

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The reason why there hasn't been a watlr is because the world had 2 super power factions controlling the powerful countries. With the USSR gone and America going full conquest there wouldn't be anyone to stop them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I feel like the US could probably get away with fucking over Central and South America, its Canada that cause the geopolitical devastation turning the US into a pariah state

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, if everyone was willing to go to nuclear war over it then sure maybe. Otherwise if the US was serious and ruthless about it no right now rest of the world couldn't, USN is unchallengeable for the time being in blue water (this hypothetical doesn't involve need to get anywhere near China). US can shut down any air/ship travel to the Americas and that's all she wrote for global support, even to the extent of just supplying arms.

    It's a stupid nightmare though given the brutal insurgencies and crime unless America was willing to go full cleansing mode the whole way down, which of course would make everyone further south fight to the death (maybe US could offer to spare any unconditional surrenders). But the things that have made the US strong also means this would never happen. Public would hate it and won't just go along with it or conscription for it (I mean shit, we're on PrepHole, resisting authoritarian government or other efforts is a founding reason for the 2A).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      central america and mexico seems doable but the Amazon is too full of natives who don't even know what a Brazil is, much less who America are

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They're a non-issue, can just leave them and the Amazon be. In fact stopping Brazil from continuing to fuck up the Amazon for retarded reasons when it has tons of biodiversity and undiscovered drug potential and generates a sizable fraction of the global oxygen supply would be a major decent reason to go to war in the first place.

  7. 1 month ago
    Carol

    Europe, Russia and China would help destroy USA so they concentrate power on themselves after war.
    Also, americans would die in the Amazon Rainforest

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Europe, Russia and China would help destroy USA
      How?

      • 1 month ago
        Carol

        The same way nato is helping Ukraine.
        Maybe even with troops.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so....
          Europe with a collectively small, underfunded, underequipped military.
          Russia with a Mauled military now relying on 60-100year old hardware to re-equip mobilized dregs after decimating their professional forces and handing America some of their best war tech.
          and China a wholly unproven force padded out with woefully inadequate or dated equipment and also surrounded with unfriendly countries with no way out.
          is supposed to beat America from this point on?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    America is one of a very small number of nations that could, theoretically, survive turning imperial in the 21st century. However it would lead to the hyper-wealthy in America and elsewhere (the sort of people POTUS clears his schedule for) losing a lot of money very quickly, which would nix the idea pretty quickly and make sure that any politician who didn't get the message getting JFK'd pretty swiftly. Even if it went past that you have to consider the occupation of the areas in question, they're not going to just roll over and take it, and most of them have their own major criminal gangs/political radicals who are already fighting guerrilla wars there and know what they're doing. America should not be so keen to get back into a decades long, and longer, occupation after covering itself and its allies in shame in Afghanistan.

    Then you've got the domestic reaction to think about. The American left would react terribly to it and probably start chimping out en masse pretty quickly - causing even more problems. The American right would probably start as well after a decade or two when the amount of spending and casualties involved went past the point they're prepared to stomach. It would also immediately turn into a proxy war between America and everyone who wanted to fuck with America (which would be a large and growing list in this scenario) as they would have the very low risk opportunity to smuggle in trainers and kit to the rebel groups in the occupied territories from day one.

    >tl;dr - it's not technically impossible, but even the most retarded and self-destructive of presidents would tell you that it was a ridiculous idea.
    >shop pic related onto 'King George I of America' in your pic and you'll get a better representation of this plan OP

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    maybe if we bite off a little bit at a time it'll go over better, just annex a little bit of mexico across the Rio Grande to "clear up the smuggling problems" or something

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No one could stop us, but in a cruel twist of fate we're being annexed BY south america right now because no one's willing to enforce the border

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't this idea just be a slightly weaker version of an open borders immigration policy?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If we became an actual rational empire, we would restrict immigration from our new territories.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, yes, more South Americans in USA

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you glassed eastern Canada, the west would probably join willingly.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but America is already a new Roman Empire, it's getting flooded with barbarians and will soon collapse

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't talk about our hardworking Visigotheños like that. They do the jobs lazy worthless Americans don't do ese

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Watching now.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are we talking about the same guys who cry that they don't have people to intervene in Haiti?
    The same guys who were kicked out from a tribe of goatfuckers in afghanistan?
    What are they going to do? Drop some bombs in the amazonian jungle and call it a day? Brazilian trannies are going to beat them and rape them repeatedly. Columbians are going to cover the mountains with burger corpses. Americans have no chance at all. They don't have the manpower.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinking the US would push through the Amazon
      You see thirdie, The United States has this nifty thing called a "blue water navy" which allows them to move men and material to places not connected by land directly.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have my doubts if muricans could sustain such a grand scale operation and occupation all the way to the south. Maybe in a very long time frame like a 60 years of conquests and constant warfare.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, they would topple the government and every hispanic would sign up to become an American citizen.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    China be like
    >SEEEE!!!!
    Russia be like
    >SSSEEEEEEE?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine going to war with Mexico when your military is 1/3 Mexican

    Good luck

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Subjugating Canada is overdue. Canada isn't really an independent nation, it was always a historic part of the US, only radicals supported by Russia and China support canadian independence

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. What the fuck happened to manifest destiny? The Canadian government is an illegitimate regime founded by loyalist, pro-crown radicals
      t. leaf

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The Canadian government is an illegitimate regime

        Absolutely. They got no concern for the rights of their own citizens. There is also a significant american diaspora living under repression from the junta in Toronto, something like this must never be accepted.

        It's for the best of both countries if Canada is integrated into the US. We should honestly invade.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Toronto
          Kek
          But yes, we're in full agreement

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It would be a massive drain of resources for no actual gain. We get what we want out of them with paper money, it's the greatest scam ever pulled.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Happened 199 years ago, anon:

    https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming there is support/public mandate for that?
    No. None one stands a chance.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are you gonna become an empire when you're someone's vassal? You first need to gain independence.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would anyone but Canada even resist? Annexation implies free citizenship for every south american

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They could but it would spell the end for them in the long run. A lot of troops and money would be needed to tie down the new territory. The petrodollar hegemony is much better because the US just Gadaffis you if you try and mess with their sweet money. Propping up dictators helps keep the natives feel engaged (and non rebellious) in society and it’s much cheaper to pay off one corrupt govt instead of sending enough troops to permanently occupy a country (Afghanistan proved this).

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It would be an objectively retarded move.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We could easily defeat their governments, but the unrest would be a lot to deal with.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what a retarded thread

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