I thought it looked kinda cheap in the first act and I didn't understand what the hype was about. I was starting to think the whole movie was just gonna be straw huts and forest. I'm glad it took a turn and impressed me with the costumes and sets.
>impressed me with the costumes
the ear lobe extensions looked very cheap, and fake. not sure how makeup fricked up blending on everyone. kept taking me out of the picture.
Many lived in straw huts, the cities were big though. The reality is they are much like countries today. A good example is China, where the cities are highly developed and big but if you go out into the country and you will see chinks living in huts, caves and straw houses.
When the Spanish arrived they made an alliance with all the smaller tree hut people against the aztecs because they were pissed because the aztecs used them for human sacrifices.
>The truth is boring.
This. A "historically accurate film" would be the Indigenous peoples dying of smallpox for 3 hours, and no one on earth wants to watch that shit.
Wrong. That all depends when the film takes place. A movie about indigenous people before the arrival of Europeans would not have small pox.
And even if it was during small pox, only a moron would think it would be 3 hours of people being sick.
It's ok to take liberties with history when a film also has a sense of magic/unreality about it. The jaguar screen should have tipped anyone off that they weren't watching a documentary.
It's one of my favorite movies. Yeah, yeah it's not historically accurate. I can't really think of a single movie off the top of my head that is. They would never make a movie like this today, with a strong male lead and that scene where the Europeans are arriving on the boat would probably feature all black actors
Great film. One of my favorites for sure. Funny how a supposed racist like Mel Gibson made something far more authentic to indigenous peoples history than modern woke Hollywood has done
Why the frick did they play Latin music in this film when it was very clear that Namor rejected colonization and had nothing to do with Spanish culture? They lived in isolation away from the rest of the Amerindian and Mestizos of Latin America.
Because they're morons and were banking on him becoming Beaner Panther, except nobody cared. For me the problem is that Huerta is obviously mixed and them pretending that he's an Amerindian breaks the narrative. They should follow the comics as best as they can, and reveal that his father was a Conquistador, and that's why he overcompensates on muh Talocan. It's the same in the books where he's the only pale pink guy in Atlantis due to his dad being a Scottish Captain, while everyone else is blue, so he's extremely nationalistic to make up for it.
Either way, I hate what they did to him. I'm one of the 100 Namorgays on the planet and always wanted to see an epic underwater epic with him. Now I'm stuck with manlet beaner seething about Euros for the 10209th time...
S'Okay anon, it's just b&er. I reserve all my hate for Black folk. They could've easily done a White Tiger movie but that Black person Coogler had to ruin Namor. He wasn't even a bad character, much of an annoying c**t as Huerta is, he outacted everyone else in that shitheap.
>Because they're morons and were banking on him becoming Beaner Panther, except nobody cared. For me the problem is that Huerta is obviously mixed and them pretending that he's an Amerindian breaks the narrative. They should follow the comics as best as they can, and reveal that his father was a Conquistador, and that's why he overcompensates on muh Talocan.
Wow I don't think I've seen a take I agree with more.
They won't do it, even if he beats the rape accusations and comes back, as it'd be "disrespectful" to have him have a white dad. But yeah, let's keep pretending this obviously mixed guy with tons of facial hair, wavy hair and an entirely different face is 100% Native like the Asian-looking fellas who comprise the rest of the Talocanil.
I just hope they shave him, give him a suit, take out those ridiculous noserings and eyerings, and he can be salvaged. This fan mock-up looks pretty great.
I feel like the assault allegations are pretty weak unless other women join in
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Yeah, all it amounted to was a twitter post and her talking about some vague "assaults". My guess is he was a typical Hispanic and hit her or roughed her up a bit sometimes, and now she's trying to shake him for money. IIRC the guy even has a kid he's not paying child support to, so he's a scumbag either way, but I'm not sure that there was any "rape". If something that bad happened why didn't she report it when he was a nobody and waited until now? Doesn't make sense to me. Not that I care. I kinda hope he's kicked out so that they could maybe pull in an AU Namor who's proper white and an Atlantean, but that's got 0% chance of happening, so whatever.
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I don't think she wants money, I think she's just angry at him. If most of the women accusing men wanted money they'd contact them first telling them to "pay up OR I'll post online" I feel like.
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I guess. But I doubt all the c**ts back in the #MeToo craze were "just angry", see Heard. Maybe this one is genuine. The guy is an butthole, that's true. Who knows? I'm just curious to see what'll happen.
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Heard is a notable exception, but I think a fair lot of those MeToo accusations were true. But now years later I'm more weary of accusations where there seems to have been years between the aleged event and the exposure, I always think "since MeToo was a thing, why didn't you come out right away, people have clearly shown they're more than willing to support women".
>Because they're morons and were banking on him becoming Beaner Panther, except nobody cared. For me the problem is that Huerta is obviously mixed and them pretending that he's an Amerindian breaks the narrative. They should follow the comics as best as they can, and reveal that his father was a Conquistador, and that's why he overcompensates on muh Talocan.
Wow I don't think I've seen a take I agree with more.
The story is a very straightforward hero's journey that you see everywhere in mythology. What really set it apart is the visuals. The first moment when they enter the city is one of the most surreal moments in film.
I've never seen it but my sister said it is her favorite movie of all time. I'm interested in early civilization movies and games and have been thinking of watching it if for no other reason than to discuss it with my sister. My only worry is that the movie will be overly violent. I don't like gorey movies. Is this going to be a problem for me if I watch it?
>My only worry is that the movie will be overly violent. I don't like gorey movies. Is this going to be a problem for me if I watch it?
Probably, its not like a slasher film but it is pretty brutal in several places
The violence makes sense in context. There is a plague and they are desperately trying to appeal to the gods through blood sacrifice. The Euro equivalent would be a witch trial during the black plague.
No, most love Harry Potter and all that, but the ones who actually want to discuss film immediately mention Rocky Horror Picture Show for some reason
Talk to more autistic women, we exist
I can only hope. I really just want a woman to discuss things with and I recognize the way to go is with the autistic ones. But they're hard to find and they usually have a gamer boyfriend already
>I can only hope. I really just want a woman to discuss things with and I recognize the way to go is with the autistic ones. But they're hard to find and they usually have a gamer boyfriend already
Yupp, most are already taken. Have to be fast
The only movie that was made before 1990 on that list is Sound of Music. Above you listed a bunch of movies my grandmother liked. So the question still stands why aren't you just meeting Harry Potter b***hes instead of Grease b***hes?
I'm an old soul trapped in a young body so I go after women who I think are the same. If I ever met a woman who wanted to talk about Philip Marlowe I would literally propose
For some reason it wasn’t very exciting for me despite the good set design and whatnot. I think there was too much foreshadowing. Also it’s structurally the same as passion of the christ
I kind of assumed it was about Europeans in some way, either the protagonist or antagonist. I didn't expect it to be an anti-imperialist story where the Mayans are the bad guys
The shitty part is that it seemed like there was no escape from them. Even after the villages were destroyed, if you tried to move on to somewhere else, they'd come find you
It was a good movie but it was HATED by Hollywood for breaking the Noble Savage cliche.
Apparently showing Natives as regular people causes libtards go to berserk.
The first thing I noticed in the movie was that they seemed so normal. The first 10 minutes is basically just them playing pranks on each other. The noble savage trope has always been terrible and it sucks that Hollywood writers think it's a good trope
I thought it looked kinda cheap in the first act and I didn't understand what the hype was about. I was starting to think the whole movie was just gonna be straw huts and forest. I'm glad it took a turn and impressed me with the costumes and sets.
>impressed me with the costumes
the ear lobe extensions looked very cheap, and fake. not sure how makeup fricked up blending on everyone. kept taking me out of the picture.
i agree those homie didnt live in straw huts like some kinda savages
Many lived in straw huts, the cities were big though. The reality is they are much like countries today. A good example is China, where the cities are highly developed and big but if you go out into the country and you will see chinks living in huts, caves and straw houses.
well then why would you fricking make a movie about almost naked c**ts in the forest when you could portray beautiful ah frick it whatever
I think they did both which was a good mix. They showed the hutt villages and then the bigger cities with the temples.
When the Spanish arrived they made an alliance with all the smaller tree hut people against the aztecs because they were pissed because the aztecs used them for human sacrifices.
The point of the movie is that the hunter in the forest is better off than the citycucks
>mossacannibalis
Well known historian and scholar
Mel don't miss.
He really does deserve to be blown BEFORE the jacuzzi.
It was good. I don’t care if they took some liberties with history. The truth is boring.
>The truth is boring.
This. A "historically accurate film" would be the Indigenous peoples dying of smallpox for 3 hours, and no one on earth wants to watch that shit.
Wrong. That all depends when the film takes place. A movie about indigenous people before the arrival of Europeans would not have small pox.
And even if it was during small pox, only a moron would think it would be 3 hours of people being sick.
It's ok to take liberties with history when a film also has a sense of magic/unreality about it. The jaguar screen should have tipped anyone off that they weren't watching a documentary.
The real history is a couple dozen Spaniards arriving in the New World, wiped out empires, embarrassing people who thought they were gods.
SANTIAGO!
The pathogens did most of the work to be fair
It's one of my favorite movies. Yeah, yeah it's not historically accurate. I can't really think of a single movie off the top of my head that is. They would never make a movie like this today, with a strong male lead and that scene where the Europeans are arriving on the boat would probably feature all black actors
I have to admit, knowing Mel Gibson made this I was half-expecting him to go to the Europeans and ask to be converted. I'm happy with how it ended.
Many 15-16th century Europeans were PoC anon. Read a book sometime.
Which book?
Stop.
Stop what? How many Black folk are mentioned in the codex florentino?
I believe Black Robe was pretty accurate. Barry Lyndon too maybe.
One of the best movies ever.
Great film. One of my favorites for sure. Funny how a supposed racist like Mel Gibson made something far more authentic to indigenous peoples history than modern woke Hollywood has done
AAAAyyyyyyyy hola hermanos! Is this the Latinx thread? Can Namor come out to play ese?
Why the frick did they play Latin music in this film when it was very clear that Namor rejected colonization and had nothing to do with Spanish culture? They lived in isolation away from the rest of the Amerindian and Mestizos of Latin America.
Because they're morons and were banking on him becoming Beaner Panther, except nobody cared. For me the problem is that Huerta is obviously mixed and them pretending that he's an Amerindian breaks the narrative. They should follow the comics as best as they can, and reveal that his father was a Conquistador, and that's why he overcompensates on muh Talocan. It's the same in the books where he's the only pale pink guy in Atlantis due to his dad being a Scottish Captain, while everyone else is blue, so he's extremely nationalistic to make up for it.
Either way, I hate what they did to him. I'm one of the 100 Namorgays on the planet and always wanted to see an epic underwater epic with him. Now I'm stuck with manlet beaner seething about Euros for the 10209th time...
>Beaner
God I prefer to be called "spic" so much
S'Okay anon, it's just b&er. I reserve all my hate for Black folk. They could've easily done a White Tiger movie but that Black person Coogler had to ruin Namor. He wasn't even a bad character, much of an annoying c**t as Huerta is, he outacted everyone else in that shitheap.
They won't do it, even if he beats the rape accusations and comes back, as it'd be "disrespectful" to have him have a white dad. But yeah, let's keep pretending this obviously mixed guy with tons of facial hair, wavy hair and an entirely different face is 100% Native like the Asian-looking fellas who comprise the rest of the Talocanil.
I just hope they shave him, give him a suit, take out those ridiculous noserings and eyerings, and he can be salvaged. This fan mock-up looks pretty great.
I feel like the assault allegations are pretty weak unless other women join in
Yeah, all it amounted to was a twitter post and her talking about some vague "assaults". My guess is he was a typical Hispanic and hit her or roughed her up a bit sometimes, and now she's trying to shake him for money. IIRC the guy even has a kid he's not paying child support to, so he's a scumbag either way, but I'm not sure that there was any "rape". If something that bad happened why didn't she report it when he was a nobody and waited until now? Doesn't make sense to me. Not that I care. I kinda hope he's kicked out so that they could maybe pull in an AU Namor who's proper white and an Atlantean, but that's got 0% chance of happening, so whatever.
I don't think she wants money, I think she's just angry at him. If most of the women accusing men wanted money they'd contact them first telling them to "pay up OR I'll post online" I feel like.
I guess. But I doubt all the c**ts back in the #MeToo craze were "just angry", see Heard. Maybe this one is genuine. The guy is an butthole, that's true. Who knows? I'm just curious to see what'll happen.
Heard is a notable exception, but I think a fair lot of those MeToo accusations were true. But now years later I'm more weary of accusations where there seems to have been years between the aleged event and the exposure, I always think "since MeToo was a thing, why didn't you come out right away, people have clearly shown they're more than willing to support women".
>Because they're morons and were banking on him becoming Beaner Panther, except nobody cared. For me the problem is that Huerta is obviously mixed and them pretending that he's an Amerindian breaks the narrative. They should follow the comics as best as they can, and reveal that his father was a Conquistador, and that's why he overcompensates on muh Talocan.
Wow I don't think I've seen a take I agree with more.
One of the best
The story is a very straightforward hero's journey that you see everywhere in mythology. What really set it apart is the visuals. The first moment when they enter the city is one of the most surreal moments in film.
I've never seen it but my sister said it is her favorite movie of all time. I'm interested in early civilization movies and games and have been thinking of watching it if for no other reason than to discuss it with my sister. My only worry is that the movie will be overly violent. I don't like gorey movies. Is this going to be a problem for me if I watch it?
Thoughts on the movie? Should I give it a watch?
>My only worry is that the movie will be overly violent. I don't like gorey movies. Is this going to be a problem for me if I watch it?
Probably, its not like a slasher film but it is pretty brutal in several places
The violence makes sense in context. There is a plague and they are desperately trying to appeal to the gods through blood sacrifice. The Euro equivalent would be a witch trial during the black plague.
Wtf, where can I meet a woman that loves Apocalypto? Every woman I meet loves Princess Bride, Rocky Horror Picture Show or Grease
>Every woman I meet loves Princess Bride, Rocky Horror Picture Show or Grease
Are you just meeting women in their 60s?
No, most love Harry Potter and all that, but the ones who actually want to discuss film immediately mention Rocky Horror Picture Show for some reason
I can only hope. I really just want a woman to discuss things with and I recognize the way to go is with the autistic ones. But they're hard to find and they usually have a gamer boyfriend already
>I can only hope. I really just want a woman to discuss things with and I recognize the way to go is with the autistic ones. But they're hard to find and they usually have a gamer boyfriend already
Yupp, most are already taken. Have to be fast
The only movie that was made before 1990 on that list is Sound of Music. Above you listed a bunch of movies my grandmother liked. So the question still stands why aren't you just meeting Harry Potter b***hes instead of Grease b***hes?
I'm an old soul trapped in a young body so I go after women who I think are the same. If I ever met a woman who wanted to talk about Philip Marlowe I would literally propose
Talk to more autistic women, we exist
Historically inaccurate and undeniably kino is the Gibson special
Antisemitic white supremacist trash
Were protospics really that brutal?
Some of them certainly were. Pretty much all people before the Age of Enlightenment were at some point in time during their history.
Aztecs were well known for being violent
For some reason it wasn’t very exciting for me despite the good set design and whatnot. I think there was too much foreshadowing. Also it’s structurally the same as passion of the christ
Fair
I kind of assumed it was about Europeans in some way, either the protagonist or antagonist. I didn't expect it to be an anti-imperialist story where the Mayans are the bad guys
Its great, really shows humanity's ills
What language were they speaking? It didn't sound like gibberish, I could tell they used the same words for certain phrases throughout
Yucatec Maya.
The shitty part is that it seemed like there was no escape from them. Even after the villages were destroyed, if you tried to move on to somewhere else, they'd come find you
It was a good movie but it was HATED by Hollywood for breaking the Noble Savage cliche.
Apparently showing Natives as regular people causes libtards go to berserk.
The first thing I noticed in the movie was that they seemed so normal. The first 10 minutes is basically just them playing pranks on each other. The noble savage trope has always been terrible and it sucks that Hollywood writers think it's a good trope
They weren't even noble, thoughever. Just social and normal so the normies can sympathize with them.
Not sure what you mean. I never said the ones in the movie were noble
Ah, sorry, hadn't read the post you were replying to
needs part 2 spaniards come in and dominate these subhuman near Black folk
It really doesn't