I don't give a fuck about my life and whether I live or die really and killing people seems like it'll be fun. I also want a Ukie pension and some wages for an fun job.
I personally support Ukraine over Russia but that's not really the main reason I want to head out, I feel incredibly alienated from western society as a young man and so choosing this can be thought of as essentially an alternative to suicide by placing myself in a dangerous situation.
So how do I do it? I looked around and seemingly you need combat experience, I have none but i'm ready to fight and die. What are the steps and how can I complete them?
I live in the UK.
No zigger garbage shitting up the thread btw, just tell me how to go to enlist and have them actually accept me with no combat experience.
Ditto this, no combat experience, but want to die. Don't mind being cannon fodder.
>I feel incredibly alienated
>essentially an alternative to suicide
you'd make for a really, really shit soldier. and anyone looking at you would immediately know that and know better than to hand you a sharpened spoon let alone a rifle. apply as an apprentice to a skilled tradesman, if you live in a western country there is a shortage of them and it pays well, is satisfying and will help you with your anxiety and depression.
>you'd make for a really, really shit soldier.
I'm literally willing to jump into the fray because I don't give a shit if I live or die.
>apply as an apprentice to a skilled tradesman, if you live in a western country there is a shortage of them and it pays well,
Bullshit, wages in the UK are trash all aaround because rent will rape you and spit on you afterwards.
>is satisfying and will help you with your anxiety and depression.
No, I want to go to war, I want to fight and I don't give a shit if I die.
>I don't give a shit if I live or die
Yes, you'd make a shit soldier, that's what he said. Why sink money time, resources, ammo, equipment, training, into some dork who runs into the firing line of the first machine gun he sees?
I dunno mang me and my GF have a pretty based household income, there's money to be made if you stop being a gay and get some skills. How did you do in school? If you're relatively smart you can be fine. Give up your retarded dream of being some ukie enlistment officers liability, it is [not] going to happen
Did you just get your first heartbreak? Dude a good soldier loves his life and loves the lives of his equals, his mates and his family. Being a suicidal nihilist in war will just make you a shitty warrior and a liability. Fuck, no one will want to work with you, I wouldn't trust a squad mate with this type of shit mentality to have my back at all times and to keep me safe.
I remember one story of I think was a German soldiers in WW1 who didn't care if he lives or died. He ended up surviving while all the others who had pictures of family back home died.
Wish I knew his name so I'd have something to link.
Holy shit quints.
>Did you just get your first heartbreak?
No, on the contrary i've never kissed a girl or been in a physical relationship with anyone. I'm 21.
>Dude a good soldier loves his life and loves the lives of his equals, his mates and his family.
Ukraine needs men to throw into the meat grinder, I'm a man and I can be thrown into it. I don't mind and if they really think i'm a shit solider they can just assign me to some menial task in the back lines.
That's not how the meat grinder works, shitskin bro. You're not a human shield sacrificing your life for someone else like a bodyguard. Fragments are the number one killer of infantry. After 150 years of artillery, not a single motherfucking army in the world bothers to effectively protect their soldiers from that. You'll never get to the "front", you'll never shoot anyone.
If you don't care about dying why do you care about wages and rent, let alone pension?
Clearly you do actually care but you want the imagined thrill of playing soldier.
Because if I don't die i'll be stuck in a worse position than i'm already in, I either want to be at the front fighting or in a better position financially.
I plan on coming home from the war, should I manage to get in, and thus I need to make preperations to that effect such as not getting financially raped.
>you want the imagined thrill of playing soldier.
No I want to be away from the strictures, suppressions and anxieties of "civilized" society and just be at the front instead.
You are not going to fight in Ukraine.
Start getting on with grieving this fact, then do something else.
>No I want to be away from the strictures, suppressions and anxieties of "civilized" society
ie the imagined thrill of playing soldier
>I either want to be at the front fighting or in a better position
ie you do actually care
take my advice, you should strive to unfuck yourself instead. if you are as rock bottom as you *think* you are, there's nowhere to go but up. if you aren't as rock bottom as all that, then risking your life is a waste. if you demand a guaranteed upward path and you think soldiering will give you that, you're a spoiled brat who thinks the world owes you more. you think combat isn't even more mental than it is physical? you think you can hack the stress? you can't fight your way through a civilian life, or a peacetime military life as others have proposed, what makes you think you can fight your way through a shooting war?
as a matter of fact, you have already given up on normal life. you would be surrendering to the Russians the instant you arrived on the battlefield and got shot at.
it's far better to keep striving where you're at. you may not achieve success immediately, but you will eventually. you have nothing to lose, and ample prospects, it's just that you've defeated yourself mentally before even starting, by saying
>wages in the UK are trash all aaround because rent will rape you and spit on you afterwards
before you even try.
not op but that was good to read, thanks anon
Cheers
I've been through the grinder myself, and this is what I learned the hard way. The problem with the modern world is that people are unwilling to even try, and they demand a sure bet, a guaranteed win. In the face of uncertainty and doubt, they give up and refuse to play.
Like OP here.
>you think combat isn't even more mental than it is physical? you think you can hack the stress?
Yes.
>ie the imagined thrill of playing soldier
No? It's about leaving society and it's fucking rules behind, leaving behind all the garden gnome garbage, all the fucking culture war shit, all the retarded circuses and stresses, financial and otherwise, of modern life, all the fucking banalities and boredoms.
Imagining being a soldier just patrolling endlessly along a road gives me a sense of peace because all of that shit falls to the wayside, there's a single clear duty, a clear purpose and no connection to the wider civilian world of endless nonsense.
>you may not achieve success immediately, but you will eventually.
Holy shit this is the pinnacle of falsehood, the incarnation of the fucking just world fallacy. Stop fucking thinking everyone gets their just deserts, that everyone can achieve things if they work hard enough, that there's some cosmic damn justice to this mess and that it'll all work out if you just work hard. It's bullshit, we see it everyday yet people keep clinging to their delusions and copes. Fucking hell.
>Holy shit this is the pinnacle of falsehood, the incarnation of the fucking just world fallacy. Stop fucking thinking everyone gets their just deserts, that everyone can achieve things if they work hard enough, that there's some cosmic damn justice to this mess and that it'll all work out if you just work hard. It's bullshit, we see it everyday yet people keep clinging to their delusions and copes. Fucking hell
said the neet
What does me being a NEET have to do with the just world fallacy being a fallacy?
That your armchair pronouncements are worth nothing, callow youth that you are.
>That your armchair pronouncements are worth nothing
I pronounce that on the preponderance of the evidence the sky is blue and grass is green. I guess these pronouncements are worth nothing to you, lol.
Yes. They are indeed worth nothing, coming from you.
You're too young and too inexperienced to tell anyone anything, you're just a clueless child that won't listen to his elders, who incidentally know better.
You can dig yourself out of your shit, you're just too much of an entitled gutter shit little brat to do it because you don't want to try.
You should listen to the people who managed to get something going and quit this rediculous larp about fighting in Ukraine when you already know you're not eligible.
Your trivial, pissy little problems aren't unique. Sorry to have to tell you this but unfortunately there's plenty of oppertunity out there for you once you stop building this dumbass prison in your mind.
You just sound like me when i was an entitled little whiny cunt too
>It's about leaving society and it's fucking rules behind
>can't stand society and rules
>wants to join military, a strict rules based institution where being able to work together and get along with other people is the no.1 skill
How do you know you'll die?
What if you just get horribly maimed? Lose a limb, an eye. Get crippling PTSD.
Look down at your leg.
What if it weren't there?
How would you stand? How would you move about? Every day would be a struggle just to get out of the house. Half your daily energy reserve of willpower would be spent just trying to make a sarnie. How's that for better position? How's you financial prospects as a crippled war vet?
How about pain? Get a shrapnel to the spine, have excrutiating agony on opioids diluting your soul for the rest of your life. Can't sit. Pain. Can't stand. Pain. Can't lie down. Pain. Can't sleep. Pain.
Until you decide to end it.
Think it through. Really visualize how that would look and how would you feel about what you've decided to do.
https://fightforua.org/
you don't need combat xp. Got a passport?
Get a loan. Big one, as big as you can. Don't worry you won't be paying it.
Get a van or a 4x4. Retired ambulance van. Get a load of meds. Drones. Dry food. Plates for carriers. Fill it up with shit.
Find UK volunteers online. There's donation drives all the time: Ask them. Drive to Ukraine. Stay. Refuse to leave. Do CasEvac. Help however you can.
and once you're tired and dissillusioned, come back and try to live life, knowing you did what you could.
This giy is mostly right. Don't bother contacting the Ukrainian gov or the Legion, just collect some gear (as a brit you probably can't get plates, but get some sort of LBV or plate carrier, helmet if you can, solid boots, 2x fatigues and combat shirts, 6x good socks, gloves.) And cross the border. No one will stop you if you say you are here to volunteer. Once you get to Lviv from Poland, start asking around to anyone that is in a uniform or looks like a western volunteer. You'll find a unit within a couple of weeks just through networking. You might have to start off doing shit like working with a forward medical group, but it's really not too difficult to find a group to roll with if you are determined to go. Kraken, Odin group, Azov, someone will take you in. You'll do a few weeks training and have yo earn your place. Legion has weeded out those without combat experience, don't even bother. Ua military isn't going to touch you either. But there's lots of paramilitary groups who would be happy to have a warm body, trust me. Lot of people talk, but just showing up is 70% of the battle. Youll find a unit after some time.
>T. western volunteer here.
>But there's lots of paramilitary groups who would be happy to have a warm body, trust me.
Are these paramilitaries official in any way like Azov or just schizo randoms?
They vary. Rare for the core members to be amateurs. Most are seasoned guys who will pick up some auxiliaries if you display the right attitude. Gear can be mixed, but ive been rather shocked at how kitted out most of them are. Most of the western larpers came and went with the really motivated fighters remaining. There are not a large amount around overall but even still ones and twos trickle in who at least have some idea of what they are going into. Which is WWI. Essentially.
By seasoned guys I mean the core will be Ukrainians or western guys who have been here for a while. The only all western group by and large is the Legion and you won't make it past screening. Combat veterans only at this point. But like I said, get to Krakow then take a train over the border to Lviv or Kyiv. Start making contacts. Find any westerners you can, or anyone who speaks English and tell em you want to find a volunteer combat unit. Odin group would probably take you in, I know a couple of those guys.
Drop the contact? Would love to get involved, any job that requires a warm body, even if it's shit.
>Start making contacts.
Therein lies an issue, I have no money and poor social skills seemingly. Should I get money i'd be able to get there but there's no guaruntee that i'd be able to find a group to take me in that's at least semi official and not just a bunch of random schizos with guns.
>Odin group would probably take you in, I know a couple of those guys.
Googled odin group and found nothing, tell me more about them, are they official?. Also do the people you know have telegram?
I just want to be able to join a group instantly when I land and go to straight to the front rather than meander around cities asking random english speakers about armed militias.
Ok first off you arent going to just land here and hitch to the front with "semi offical dudes" because you arent even semi official. You are gonna have to do some training jist so they know you know which end the bullets come out of. you are going to have to have some money. At least some. Since you can take trains to get here once you are over the channel, at bare minimum you should borrow or beg $1000. If you can't do that, I'd stay home. You don't need social skills to spend a few days around the major malls in Lviv or Kiev and ask dudes in uniforms or camo ball caps about putting you in contact with someone who could take you in.
Also, what do you mean semi official? You think self formed combat units on the eastern front have websites? Yeah, if you do some asking around you'll find what you want, you don't have to join up with the first cowboys you run across. Most groups will have AKs, RPKs, various rockets, etc. Probably some Ukrainian and or anti russian Chechnyans running things.You'll probably be one of a handful of people in a group who speak English. Welcome to a foreign country my dude. Drop a burner email and I can have someone who can probably help you
my burner is [email protected]
I sent my contact your email. Check over the next couple days. Might have a lead for you idk
Nice thanks.
>Which is WWI. Essentially.
Sounds more like the freikorps that came right after, lol.
Based as fuck, want to be friends?
Can people like you just shut the fuck up and stop speaking on our behalf? You sound like a zigger. We would actually like if more people came to help.
>We would actually like if more people came to help.
Based, just tell me where to apply where I don't need combat experience i'll be over there soon.
>stop speaking on our behalf
>like if more people came to help.
so what unit are you in? why not vouch for OP so you can be the lucky one to have some suicidal sperg with no combat training next to you on the contact line.
>You sound like a zigger
if you want people like this in your nations army - then you're practically a traitor, even if it's due to sheer stupidity and not malice.
kek, if you had actually served you would know that the military finds a right job for everyone, even suicidal spergs. They'd likely be allocated to EOD units. The first adrenaline rush that a suicidal kid will get will brush off those thoughts real fucking soon, and if not, well, one less bomb and one less suicidal to deal with.
I do actually respect the thought of you telling him to get a craft job though. Getting stuff done is life fulfilling and not many people realize that.
>kek, if you had actually served you would know that the military finds a right job for everyone, even suicidal spergs.
Based.
>The first adrenaline rush that a suicidal kid will get will brush off those thoughts real fucking soon, and if not, well, one less bomb and one less suicidal to deal with.
Also based.
> if you had actually served
5 years, two years on deployment. Shitty slavic army, so I probably have a better insight into Ukrainian armed forces culture than a US vet.
>finds a right job for everyone
And the right job for someone like him is, at best, stacking crates into the back of a truck back at depot.
>They'd likely be allocated to EOD units
Oh my fucking God, what kind of alternate reality do you live in? Real life is not some looney toons cartoon. EOD's specifically get selected for being psychologically resilient. EOD's are extremely expensive equipment and training wise, and if they don't do their job reliably it's a problem. If you mean "random guys we send to run through a minefield" - yeah armies (ones that aren't better described as mobs rather than armies, at least) don't really do that. It's bad PR if nothing else, and a line charge is cheaper than selecting a bunch of randos and driving them to the front.
>The first adrenaline rush that a suicidal kid will get will brush off those thoughts real fucking soon
In real life the "first adrenaline rush" is not the round starting and you rushing out to get some sweet kills. It's sporadic shelling that occasionally lands pants-shitingly close to you. Or, much more mundanely some guy in his new unit pissing in his boots or something while he sleeps to test him a bit, upon which guys like OP are likely to either off themselves or off someone on their own side. Hate to break it to you, but that whole "all spergs are just healthy warriors who are seemingly defective because they're being raised in a cowardly/overly-technological/whatever society" is a bunch of bullshit.
Good English for a shitty slav, just sayin
I agree with you btw
Thanks, but it's not hard to learn semi-decent English when 90% of songs, TV shows, movies and the internet are all in English. But of course all our translators were guys who couldn't even make their spoken "wheel" and "will" distinct from each other. Motherfuckers had to go back and alpha-bravo half their utterances when on joint exercises. We had fun making Americans pronounce "skrbstveno," though.
nta but I agree with what most of what you said, but honestly the idea that "most specific jobs are extremely selective in the military" only applies during peace time. During war conditions, troops can't fucking wait around for hours so they can get a dozen of specialized and expensive vehicles to clean roads or get explosives disposed in the most efficient way, you just make do. If you catch one of the ukies interviews about eod they pretty much go around walking places watching their step, maybe using mine detectors and carry tools like cutters and the usual explosive charge. It would be ideal to have the expensive stuff and do it the proper way but with so much going on it does make sense to have people willing to take risks for other people. As long as suicidal gays don't take on leadership holes so that they don't get people killed they are pretty much gtg for simple/disposable jobs.
>you just make do
In most militaries standard training for at least some grunts in every squad or at least platoon is how to identify various types of mines, triggers, common counter-diffusion measures, patterns and placements, etc. So every platoon can do some basic EOD work without the need for outside specialists. Just like you have designated marksmen and don't need snipers, etc. In an active war zone everyone is eager to learn, survival is one hell of a motivator.
>using mine detectors and carry tools like cutters and the usual explosive charge
And even most higher level EOD teams don't have all the gucci gear (robots, fancy imagers, chemical detectors, etc.) you see with SWAT teams in major metropolitan areas of affluent nations. Metal detectors, a tool-kit and charges are pretty much it.
So even for basic EOD if you lack people who can do it - you take some existing soldiers who maybe have some aptitude/experience and send them of for a crash-course or give them in the field training or give them some printed out field manual you found on the internet at least and let them figure it out. You don't need someone who is a complete liability in all other respects (and who also has no training in EOD) just because he's "willing to risk it" - guess what, your existing soldiers are too. I know, I know: "but why waste them when some guy is willing to do it for them?" Again: because they already have some training and experience in some fields and at least don't need babysitting. Babysitting some green sperg on a modern battlefield gets you killed more easily than a few mines.
How do l do this? Ive been through osut but got out early and never deployed.
>just take the tradie pill
>Mike Rowe said it’s honest and honorable
Fuck you, zogbot. Best thing to do if you’re alienated and suicidal is get on neetbux and coast till you die playing video games, learning Japanese for the really good eroge, and shooting your guns while screaming about how much you hate the antichrist.
>Best thing to do if you’re alienated and suicidal is get on neetbux
Already on neetbux and going through the processes to get more. I'm still poor and i'm still fucked.
>and shooting your guns while screaming about how much you hate the antichrist.
>and shooting your guns
>shooting your guns
>your guns
>guns
British.
Georgian Legion or a TDF unit that feels pity for you.
Other then that you're shit out of luck. Even the Georgians might tell you to scram, apparently them rejecting some proud boy caused the entire reddit legion thing to pick up.
>Georgian Legion or a TDF unit that feels pity for you.
How do I do that with no combat experience? Fucking hell it's so hard to go to war nowadays.
>apparently them rejecting some proud boy caused the entire reddit legion thing to pick up.
What? What are you on about? Them rejecting proud boys got redditors to join or smth?
Here’s what will happen to you gay
You won’t ever see Ivan and you’ll die before even reaching the frontline because Ukraine is slowly losing its air defense
You’ll either get shelled into oblivion
Used as canon fodder against Wagner
Or
Idk nothing really
You’re not gonna get your kino save muh hohol Reich
You’re gonna die a pitiful death in a crater while other men who are forced to be there have to risk their lives to get your fatass out
Shout out to that bong thah got three Ukrainian Allies killed and squealed like a woman as he crawled away from the motor attack
>Got them killed
Ah yes, I forgot you can predict mortar hits
Story goes that the bong went off on his own and got wounded
You can hear some hohol saying bylat as he’s patching him up
Didn’t take him very far sadly
>Shout out to that bong thah got three Ukrainian Allies killed and squealed like a woman as he crawled away from the motor attack
Sauce?
To put it simply - contacts. The Georgian Legion was the de facto foreign legion during the 2014-2015 phase of the war and as of 2022 they accepted foreigners without combat experience. But as a nobody with no contacts you'll be shit out of luck.
The proud boy stuff is mostly a meme, foreign voluteer = redditor was pushed hard during the early days and it coinded with some fucknugget getting rejected from the georgian legion of all places.
Frankly if you want to get some benefit while helping people better off becoming a supplies runner.
>supplies runner
That sounds like the sweet spot/ Will foreign legion take someone who's not there to fight, but just operate as a support role? Running crates of shit into and out of areas while getting shelled sounds right up my ally
Not the legion, or at least the parts I am familiar with. But you'll be able to find someone. Hell, you could drop over and see if they could hook you up with someone to do support stuff. Couldn't hurt to try.
anyone know where to talk to Ivans?
I’ve been awol and wanna teach them how to destroy American Bradleys
Really fire in their rear there’s some shit in the back that makes the whole thing explode but I’ve already seen videos of them riding them like their tanks so lol
you join the UK military, get experience and then leave and fight in ukraine a few years later when the western aid collapses.
A suicidal teenager is as much use to the ukranian military as tits on a fish
>you join the UK military
Only the raf allows people with asperger's to join.
>A suicidal teenager is as much use to the ukranian military as tits on a fish
Not a teen but still I disagree, I think i'd be of use enough to justify the cost in arming and training me.
who gives a fuck if you disagree? You are no use to them and they will not take you because you have no military experience, so give up this horeshit. If you're an autist there's a universe of highly paid work available, my GF ears £65K as a project manager and she's pretty deep on the spectrum. Being an autist isn't an issue as long as you're pretty smart with it. Equally hbow are you gonna manage sensory shit surropunded by gunfire (which you won't, as you are never, ever going to fight in ukraine)
>Deep in the spectrum
>Project manager
>Relationship
My dude having some niche hobby doesn't make her autistic you know.
>Ukie pension
lol
>wages
also lol
>fun job
>need combat experience
>young man
>live in the UK
Get yourself PrepHole and join the Royal Marines or Paratroopers. You'll get plenty of experience and you might even make some friends and stop wanting to die. If you do still want to die for some reason, then you'll be able to volunteer for whatever future hellscape the Slavs/Arabs/Chinese manage to conjure up in the 2030s.
>Only the raf allows people with asperger's to join.
Do you actually have a diagnosis or did you just take an online test? In any case, why not apply for the Regiment Gunners? Or go to France and try out for the Foreign Legion?
or become a fighter pilot, that's a kino ass job with a highly paid career when you're done as a commercial pilot. All your training done for you.... people pay out the ASS to get the kinda of training and certification he'd be paid to get
Not sure what OP's situation is, but in the RAF you generally have to be an officer to be a fighter pilot. That means you need the right school grades to begin with, plus you'll have to pass some difficult aptitude tests.
If you dont have combat experience or speak the language you're 100x more useful working a job and donating money
>If you dont have combat experience or speak the language you're 100x more useful working a job and donating money
Fucking hell I just want to fight, I don't have money so i'm not donating shit other than my body to the front.
nobody cares what you want. What you want you cannot have.
"What are the conditions to join the International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine?
You can join the Legion if you have combat experience, have no criminal record and are aged between 18 and 60 years."
https://fightforua.org/
Stop having a tantrum about it
Honestly that is noble, you can always just ask the Ukie embassy how you can help or send an email to the international legion.
> I just want to fight
But the problem is that in order for you to fight, someone has to 1) teach you how to fight and 2) give you a bunch of shit to fight with. In a situation where you are starting from scratch and also dont speak the language, that doesn't really make sense. But on the other hand, who knows? Try getting in touch with them
It's not noble, it's just mellodramatic and silly.
In terms of:
>who knows
well, he literally knows. He knows he needs military experience that he doesn't have, he's just throwing his toys out the pram about the fact he can't go.
Dude should teach himself C++ and go earn a pile of money and send that to Ukraine
>Do you actually have a diagnosis
Yep.
>Or go to France and try out for the Foreign Legion?
Looked into it, it seems promising but there's only 9k people in the legion so they're very selective. Thus i'd likely not get in.
>Honestly that is noble, you can always just ask the Ukie embassy how you can help or send an email to the international legion.
If I ask how I can help they're just going to tell me to buy war bonds or some shit probably but I can try, I need to get a passport before I do anything though.
>Try getting in touch with them
I don't have much money so going all the way to the embassy in London and back via train will definitely put a dent in my savings, train tickets are very expensive.
they literally say that they expect you to provide your own body armour and you can't afford a train ticket. Just stop with this stupid shit and join the RAF
Send them an email or call them man, come on, figure it out.. Maybe try the leaf brigade, at least you speak their language.
https://www.canadian-ukrainian-brigade.org/
Don't go, you'll be a liability and will get people killed.
>and will get people killed.
How?
Someone post the video tbh
The one with the British volunteer screaming after being hit by a shell and those Ukrainian troops that tried to get him out of there only to be spotted by a drone and taken out
Hell yeah do it
I want more dead American families to make fun of on Facebook I guess
Lmao what sort of fucking mental gymnastics do you have to do just to think Russische hünde are winning?
>I want ukrainian pension
so like a 100$?
Don't be ridiculous you stupid suicidical white boi. Subsaharan African has 1.2 billion Black folks. Sponsor one of them with 2000 dollars per year to go fight for you.
>look at me I'm the Wagner now
I'm not white.
You have any idea how little that info narrows it down?
I know, however you called me a white boi which is incorrect.
Ok, if you're poor and suicidical go volunteer in a homeless shelter or something. I post weapons grade racism on PrepHole but it's just for fun shitskin bro.
>Ok, if you're poor and suicidical go volunteer in a homeless shelter or something
This doesn't help me, I want either a good financial situation or to go to the front. Getting a good financial situation in 2023 is just fucking impossible at this point no matter what tf you do and going to the front is a lot harder than you'd think. I'm fucked.
>I post weapons grade racism on PrepHole but it's just for fun shitskin bro.
It's aight my cracker.
>Getting a good financial situation in 2023 is just fucking impossible at this point no matter what tf you do
exactly the attitude that will make a soldier willing to fight to the death
/s
20% of people in the UK live in poverty
https://www.jrf.org.uk/data/overall-uk-poverty-rates
the UN has to give us food aid
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/16/unicef-feed-hungry-children-uk-first-time-history
the majority of UK young people are in low-income households going without essentials
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/02/whats-my-future-millennials-and-gen-z-grapple-with-cost-of-living-crisis
22.8 percent of children in the United Kingdom are defined as living in absolute poverty
https://www.statista.com/statistics/282340/absolute-poverty-rate-uk-by-demographic/
over a third of people are struggling financially
https://www.independent.co.uk/money/more-than-a-third-of-uk-adults-say-they-are-struggling-financially-b2117783.html
Britain 'has worst social mobility in the Western world' according to study looking at the financial facts
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137585/Britain-worst-social-mobility-Western-world.html
And all of those people are better than you, because they're at least striving, whereas you've given up before even starting.
>people trapped in an endless cycle of ever increasing poverty, hunger, destitution and despair are better than you because at least they got into the cycle, you never even tried to jump in!
The financial data tells me it's hopeless, I agree.
Those papers ((claim)) that the odds are stacked against you, and you fell without even bothering to play the odds. You never even tried. You are just like if Ukraine had looked at the odds it faced and decided to pack it in because the ((data said it's hopeless)). Going to fight in Ukraine would be the worst for you and for the people who'd be relying on you; you're already a proven failure.
>If i put ~~**~~ around words in reference to studies that invalidates them without having to read them or do any math, I am a very smart individual
>just believe ((the data)), just give up, don't try, don't question
>MHS0Y
>just believe ((the data))
Unironically yes, believing facts and evidence instead of our base instincts is based as fuck and seperates us from animals.
n the UK the top 10% have almost half the national wealth while the poorest 50% have just 9%
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic-inequality-uk
and this is increasing 1.3 points per year
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/householdincomeinequalityfinancial/financialyearending2022
while in russia the top 1% have almost half of the national wealth
https://epthinktank.eu/2022/04/22/human-development-in-putins-russia-what-the-data-tell-us/income-and-wealth-inequalities-in-russia-over-time/
The UK is basically a more brown, less cold Russia.
Also this happened just this month lol
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/25/britons-need-to-accept-theyre-poorer-says-bank-of-england-economist
There's clear systemic issues, placing the blame on the individual in this case is retarded because how tf am I supposed to single handedly fix any of these systemic issues fucking up my life? I can't single handedly change state or monetary policy. Recognizing these things and accepting the facts of the situation isn't an "attitude" problem, it's a "problem" problem.
hah.
Soooo....how's Brexit working out for ya mates?
Terribly
We have over 10% inflation while the EU is barely suffering overall and the eurozone is in single digits. We're the only fucking country in western Europe with double digit inflation.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/22/uk-highest-inflation-g7-brexit
https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/04/19/uk-record-inflation-which-country-in-europe-has-been-worst-hit-and-how-do-they-compare
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65037292
Also according to the office of national statistics exports have fucking plummeted into the dirt.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/december2022
All this while the EU is having an almost 20% increase in exports.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=International_trade_in_goods
The US is always the UK’s number one trading partner and >we are royally fucked. The EU has managed to stall the collapse, but it’s gonna get bad for them sooner rather than later.
Or you could wear a ghillie suit and Semtex blocks and run into vatnigs shouting
>AlCharlesu Akbar
you are probably fat and incompetent so no one will take you
Work in organized crime then retard. The military doesn't want you
You seem like a loser and a liability
Typical zoomer retard. Here's a protip, needledick: militaries have ways to weed out people like you. Nobody's desperate enough to take in, in your own words, a suicidal dumbass. Go play Call of Duty to live out your infantile military hero fantasies.
t. Vet
Salty much, welfare queen?
>I want to fight in Ukraine
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah look at this retard. May as well save time and rope yourself instead, the end result will be the same.
For real though, if this isn't bait, go make something of yourself anon. don't let demoralization destroy you. Get out of the city, live in the country, enjoy nature, work out, find a woman, get married.
How many dead ukies or russians never had that chance?
>don't let demoralization destroy you.
It already has.
>Get out of the city, live in the country,
Costs a shit ton, so no.
>enjoy nature,
Can't if it's all polluted and gross with the unpolluted land belonging to large landowners. Also if I try and squat on public land that's a crime.
>work out, find a woman, get married.
lmao.
Needless to say, you won't be accepted. Since you're basically just an autistic loser with suicidal tendencies and no training.
Just move out of the shithole UK and im sure your life will improve enough that you dont want to just murder someone and die.
>Just move out of the shithole UK
I'm investigating ways to do that but it's incredibly hard and costs a shit ton of money I don't have. Ideally i'd just pay under the table for a phd from some balkan shithole and use it to get a comfy remote job while I live in a cheap country but I doubt any of that'll happen.
>and im sure your life will improve enough that you dont want to just murder someone and die.
Unironically yes, my financial situation is a big issue. If I became a millionaire tommorrow I could just insulate my life from all my problems due to their material nature, moving out of the UK to a more hospitable country would have the same effect, albeit to a much lesser degree.
>Ideally i'd just pay under the table for a phd from some balkan shithole and use it to get a comfy remote job
Fucking knew it. Truth is, there are plenty of opportunities and jobs out there. Just not the ones YOU want. To you, there are no jobs because anything less than a 6 figure remote job in the comfort of your own home is fucking beneath you. There is no housing because anything outside city limits within walking distance of all your favorite amenities may as well not even exist to you. I fucking KNEW it!
>Just not the ones YOU want.
Literally every job has insane educational and personal requirements attatched to it and shit pay, shit pay being when you take the annual salary minus taxes, National Insurance contributions, prospective rent, transport to and from work, gas, electric, heating, internet, food and other bills you make negative money.
This is also true of low skilled jobs. I've literally looked into taking a wagie gig and when I did the math i'd make negative money per month so i'm better off staying on welfare.
You can check Brotherhood battalion. I know they currently recruiting (no military experience required), and they also have an international unit. Their telegram: https://t.me/BatalionBratstvo
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As already mentioned, you can also try Georgian Battalion or local semi-independent units from diffrerent Azov branches to a number of Belorusian battalions etc.
That said, the easiest way to join the army is to do that on the ground in Ukraine. All it takes is to make contacts with local volunteers who will always have links with many units experiencing manpower shortage.
t. Ukie
>You can check Brotherhood battalion.
Did some research on them, they're ultra christian nationalist schizos, basically christian ISIS. Given i'm an atheist, among other things, I don't think i'd be welcome.
>That said, the easiest way to join the army is to do that on the ground in Ukraine.
I don't want to save up money to go to Ukraine only to be turned away, i'd much rather just find a website or something to set up my joining so when I land in Ukraine I have stuff waiting for me so I can get thrown against the front.
>I want
>I want
Entitled gay.
You must be trolling
You gonna cry like a bitch the second the first shell land in a 5km radio around you.
You will be as scared as you have never, if you are unlucky enough to live long in the front, on a daily basis.
You don't even start to comprehend how stupid your rationalization is.
Also, be aware that every single one of these dudes talking shit about your decision are the biggest pussies on earth. Their SKS's and DD AR15s wouldn't even leave the safe if the enemy was at their gates. They would flee in terror, leaving their families and neighbors behind. The (yous) will seethe and cope about this, but the truth remains. I expect a lot of replies along the lines of "Ukraine is not my problem, but if it was..." and "politics this and that", and " muh globohomo". They cannot fathom that someone would seek combat again for the sake of it. Worms.
>Dominicans invade Haiti
>go fight for Haiti worm
OP's having a rough time, but we're right in the head
>Also, be aware that every single one of these dudes talking shit about your decision are the biggest pussies on earth.
Yep. I just want to fight and perhaps die.
Bud, stuff looks dark now but itll get better. Focus on building yourself up, learn new skills. Everyone starts at zero and its hard. I know this isnt what you wanna hear and its youll probably be upset that I didnt help you off yourself by proxy, but this isnt your fight and your feelings have been shared by young men since the dawn of war.
What are you waiting for then gay?
>CADET is in english
are those recruit from birmingham or london or smth?
What are your thoughts on getting hammered by a massive artillery barrage
It'd be pretty fun if I have cover, otherwise it'd be a pretty big annoyance.
Post weight and waist.
Life is what you make it, if you're that dead set on it then find a why over there and walk into the grounds with faith. There's probably tons of rifles just laying about, amongst other things. Grab what you find and make a difference.
Inb4 that's retarded
Op said he's down to die and no man's land has no rules.
>I live in the UK
lmao
Also, join an NGO. There's one that teaches english to Ukranians. At least you can do that and have a friend for life. Google a bit for it.
>Ukie pension
UH OH! RETARD ALERT
Some tard in his 50s did this and got red misted by a russian missile. Unless you have either combat experience, medical experience or experience repairing military vehicles/equipment you are practically useless in Ukraine. The best contribution you could hope to make is you take a few bullets or a land mine that wouldve hit someone who could actually fight.
>I don't give a fuck about my life and whether I live or die really and killing people seems like it'll be fun.
If you say this to any recruiter they will turn you away. Shit like this is an enormous red flag to any recruiters as it signals youll do retarded shit that will probably get others in your unit killed.
>I have none but i'm ready to fight and die.
You are just a burden to them, it will take months to train you or they send you on mine clearence.
>they dont let spergs in the army
For good reason we dont want some retard throwing a tard meltdown because hes overstimmed from artillery.
Tldr stop being an edgy sperg and learn to be useful in society. If you dont like society then work to change it.
>throwing a tard meltdown because hes overstimmed from artillery.
I'm high functioning, retard.
>I'm high functioning, retard.
>"High-functioning autism” isn't an official medical term or diagnosis.
Sums up OP
>doesn't know what asperger's is
>signs of assburgers include social awkwardness, repetitive speech, difficulty understanding social issues, awkward movement
You will get bullied so hard
Not OP. I have extensive medical experience. Attended advanced first responder training. Graduated the course with honors. Also, know how to handle firearms.
Still WOULD never even think of going to fight, even if there's a meme legion. What part of "not speaking the local language" does not fit into these people's brain. What if your 'terp gets killed or the FSB throws him 100 grand to lead you to an ambush? How the fuck are you supposed to get HUMINT from people. Perhaps that babushka is telling you there's Russians waiting to ambush you and you smile and go "Tak tak love you too granny!" as you go to your death.
Literally retarded. The only reason they allow the meme legion is for propaganda purposes. Not taking anything away from those guys, but they are just an isolated infantry bunch and Ukies could easily do their job. There's only ukies in the new assault battalions... eh... some food for thought.
"I have no experience, no idea what I'm talking about, but I sure have opinions"
Exactly, speaking the local language is crucial. CivDiv even showed how fucky fucky things get when you don't speak with locals, or your "allies".
>"I have no experience, no idea what I'm talking about, but I sure have opinions"
OP in a nutshell
>killing people seems like it'll be fun
it won't be
modern warfare is based on luck
you can't dodge a bullet or a missile so you're basically just running around like a headless chicken or a sitting duck just waiting for your luck to run out
when you're not in combat you'll either be doing absolutely fucking nothing or training/manual labor
I get the sentiment but this isn't the ye olde times anymore where you could actually give it your all and actually feel what it feels like to get stronger, better, faster and hone your skill to fight
you're just a unit waiting for orders just a mule to be used and shot
eh, still better than living in the UK
Militaries want motivated people with self-esteem. Not depressed zoomer gays that make threads like this.
If you actually wanted to enlist in their foreign legion, you could just google how to. It's not hard. You however are just a retard posting bait.
Stand on the street corner and ring a bell asking for donations to go to ukraine
That is more help than whatever the fuck you are thinking of
OP the military is even more hierarchical, rules-based and full of social nuance than the civilian world.
In your civilian life you can keep to your autistic self and not get bothered.
in a combat unit you will get hazed nonstop until the other guys figure out whether you are reliable or a turd.
Post weight and waistline.
You are a massive gay genuinely hurts that people like you exist in this world
No cap, just join the military. Perhaps try to aim for something specialists that will be needed after the war like UXO removal. You'll get a thrill, be useful, and actually not be a blight on your family tree.
As for Ukraine, forget it. I don't think they'll take you in for training unless you speak fluent Ukranian or Russian, and I doubt the foreign legion has the tail required to seperately train suicidal dipshits.
TL;DR Learn to fuck with landmines at the British army instead. That way you'll still get to go to Ukraine in time and actually be useful
You're exactly the type of person we're screening applicants for to avoid. Get medical help, seriously. You'd be fighting alongside people with kids, families who want to go back home. You're a liability.
>t. was involved in recruiting for paramedics groups in Ukraine
You're a pathetic retard, no military would want you, do everyone a favour and drink acid. (because you can't have guns)
Wait till the shit at Bakhmut play out first before you get your ticket.