i think we've reached peak optic. vortex was almost there with the 5x spitfire but they fumbled the reticle.

i think we've reached peak optic.
vortex was almost there with the 5x spitfire but they fumbled the reticle.
now primary arms flops their nuts on the table with a fuckin 8 ounce 5x optic with the best reticles in the game.
is this not the best single optic solution?
taking the fixed power grunt proof scope to it's logical conclusion with a tiny form factor.
you can keep your el pee vajayjays and cope dots, 2023 is the year of the prism chads.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a chink who sells the same exact exterior housing but uses Shcott glass for $400 It really makes me wonder how the GLx or PA's Japanese glass prism will fare.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      really? where? i thought PA's microprisms were an exclusive design

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Liar

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck dude this would be perfect for my 7.5 "N-23" A1 upper build.
    When are they going to be available and what's the expected price? Just checked PA and can't find them.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just going by the OP I'm gonna guess it has the ACSS meme reticle

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Peak optic for fucking what? The US army is moving to LPVOs, and a fixed 5x is a bit much for the civilian world where the only people to have shot someone at over 187 yards are Stephen Paddock in 2017 and Charles Whitman in 1966.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US Army is adopting LPVOs because they're too busy fighting the last war in Afghanistan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      military grade LPVOs with mount are over 2 lbs
      this thing is literally less than a quarter of the weight with comparable capability, and as a tiny prism it is inherently more durable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >an 8 ounce scope made in China is going to be more durable than the 2lb scope that the US Army uses
        >the 4x32mm ACOG weighs 15.1 ounces
        >the 2x20mm ACOG weighs 8.5 ounces
        >he honestly thinks that corners aren't being cut to hit that 8 ounce point

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's stuff like the exposed reticles and smaller glass. I wouldn't necessarily call those cut corners. Compromises, sure.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >exposed reticles
            What the fuck do you mean exposed reticles?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I meant turrets anon, sorry.

              I'm this anon: [...]. If you actually cared about practicality, you wouldn't even be thinking about a 5x fixed power optic plus a red dot.

              While there's some truth to your post, a lot actually, there are 2 things you did not acknowledge. First and foremost, I want better 100 yard groups than anyone else at the range, every time, period. Second thing is that I don't really like shooting rifles anyway and if I have it for some shit hit the fan disaster, then you never know. A 200 yard shot is the length of your average mall parking lot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have you ever considered that you may be retarded?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I have and despite that, I am still better able to articulate a viewpoint than yourself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some dude dragged my dad's trailer down the road a few hundred yards before the tires blew from the chains locking the wheels up. Had he had an AR he absolutely would've attempted a, completely legal btw, 200+ yard shot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >exposed turrets
                you mean like aimpoints and eotechs? that's a good thing.
                lower profile so they won't get smashed in when you take a tumble, no cap to get lost, requires a tool to adjust so PFC windowlicker can't fuck with it.
                >muh trijicon lanyard
                that shit is a clunky fix.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A 200 yard shot is the length of your average mall parking lot.
                It's also 13 yards further than the longest documented legal shot in the civilian world that managed to connect with another person, and has basically no reason to happen outside of contrived bullshit fantasy situations people daydream about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally just gave you one.

                Some dude dragged my dad's trailer down the road a few hundred yards before the tires blew from the chains locking the wheels up. Had he had an AR he absolutely would've attempted a, completely legal btw, 200+ yard shot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but what if he owned a gun when this situation happened and was totally able to get it and land a shot on some guy who's either driving away or broken down on the side of the road where even in Texas you'd almost certainly be found guilty

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Funny because we're in Texas and "why didn't you shoot him" was the first thing we got asked on the call in.

                You're just wrong. Keep coping about not needing to ever shoot someone at distance because you read a book one time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >small thing weighs less
          >"wow they really cut corners"
          are you retarded?
          >weaker
          the VCOG, despite being manufactured in the same manner as the ACOG, is noticeably more fragile according to the marines who used them. small + dense = strong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        right because prisms are known for having horrible field of view
        trijicon or elcan have stacked more bodies alone than all other manufacturers combined.
        a poor craftsman blames his tools

        Most intelligent PA optic buyer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot. Positive iiiiiii dddddddddd

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pointing a rifle at people out in public to identify if they actually need shooting
        Anon, I...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stephen Paddock in 2017
      lol. lmao.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it was a government coverup!
        >because it just is ok!
        >you can't be skeptical of conspiracies on PrepHole!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, ignore
          >how he shot two guns 30 feet apart at the same time
          >the saudi prince and the CIA SAD team extraction
          >how he SOMEHOW defeated vegas hardwired hotel security by disassembling hte camera/fire alarm without hte CRASH team coming in hard as fuck to his room to buttfuck his soul.
          begone glowmoron.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no need to be so antisemitic

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Id be curious how the 5x works practically. I think a 3 or 3.5x is great for both 25-300 yard shooting

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh boy I love having no FOV

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      right because prisms are known for having horrible field of view
      trijicon or elcan have stacked more bodies alone than all other manufacturers combined.
      a poor craftsman blames his tools

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prisms do not inherently have better FOV.
        It depends on the size of the prism. This is a micro prism. It has shit FOV.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What an absolutely retarded post.
          >p-prisms have good FOV!
          No, the TA31 and Elcan 1-4x have good FOV. It is not an inherent quality of prisms at all.
          >trijicon or elcan have stacked more bodies alone than all other manufacturers combined.
          Excellent observation you stupid fuck. This is neither a Trijicon nor an Elcan.
          >a poor craftsman blames his tools
          A poor shooter buys Primary Arms.

          Having a smaller housing like this with a 5x magnification means the FOV is going to be tiny. That's literally how optics fundamentally work.

          Yes these anons are right. Which is why I,

          I don't love the vortex reticle either it's way smaller on the 3x than the 5x. It's not too small on the 5x. In fact, it's fine. The reason I don't like it is that it's calibrated for 5.56 and I have it on a .300blk, bummer.
          What the Vortex has that the primary arms doesn't is the ability to mount it low for a cheek weld with a red dot on top that's still at a reasonable height. That way your rifle is usable for home defense which is honestly the most likely scenario any of us will use our rifles. What would be your answer for closer distance uses if you get the primary arms 5x?

          , believe a 5x prism with a red dot is a fantastic choice. I'll ask again, without the little red dot, how would you use your rifle at close distances? Tilted irons? A canted dot? Those are inferior choices IMO.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >without the little red dot, how would you use your rifle at close distances?
            By picking an optic with magnification that isn't completely overkill for any situations I might actually face, and doesn't necessitate the purchase of a second optic to cover the much more likely situations that it would be unsuitable for

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We were comparing 5x optics. Would you go with a 3x then or zero magnification. Zero magnification is fine within 100 yards but sucks ass further.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm this anon:

                Peak optic for fucking what? The US army is moving to LPVOs, and a fixed 5x is a bit much for the civilian world where the only people to have shot someone at over 187 yards are Stephen Paddock in 2017 and Charles Whitman in 1966.

                . If you actually cared about practicality, you wouldn't even be thinking about a 5x fixed power optic plus a red dot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you've obviously never shot beyond a 100 yards with a red dot. it really isnt very difficult at all even out to 300, especially considering you arent going to be shooting 10 inch paper targets for practical usages. considering virtually every engagement youre going to have in the real world, barring the breakdown of society, is going to be well within 300, you have no "practicality!" argument, unless youre hunting game with your AR in which case you should use a scope like a normal person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literal idiot shit post. Flat range slow ass fucking loser shooter. Deluded man overestimates his skills yet again. Fucking moron. Youre like the guy who commented about 700 yard shots on garand thumbs 22lr video.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            marines cleared buildings with acogs on m16s for years, you can get it done.
            and for how many decades were the british, australians, and austrians doing the same with their fixed power optics?
            a red dot is nice but not necessary.
            also you can mount the PA microprisms just as low, they come with like 10 optional spacers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >marines cleared buildings with acogs on m16s for years, you can get it done.
              If you talked to anyone who actually did this, they hated it and were jealous of the NCOs and others who got M4s.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well i suppose you could put one of those scope ring red dot mounts on the PA 5x prism. if it's too big just shim it until it fits.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            at close distances you're going to be point-shooting or you will die

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Okay but there's a transition distance somewhere between those 2.

              >A 200 yard shot is the length of your average mall parking lot.
              It's also 13 yards further than the longest documented legal shot in the civilian world that managed to connect with another person, and has basically no reason to happen outside of contrived bullshit fantasy situations people daydream about.

              That was the 2nd point and not nearly as important as the first which you conveniently ignored.

              you've obviously never shot beyond a 100 yards with a red dot. it really isnt very difficult at all even out to 300, especially considering you arent going to be shooting 10 inch paper targets for practical usages. considering virtually every engagement youre going to have in the real world, barring the breakdown of society, is going to be well within 300, you have no "practicality!" argument, unless youre hunting game with your AR in which case you should use a scope like a normal person

              >especially considering you arent going to be shooting 10 inch paper
              That's the difference between you and me. I only shoot tight groups.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That was the 2nd point and not nearly as important as the first which you conveniently ignored.
                Probably because that point isn't first and foremost like you say it is. If it was, then you'd be buying a traditional scope with adjustable parallax and magnification for a similar price rather than jerking off about what you think the newest meta prism scope for your SHTF action hero fantasies is.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably because that point isn't first and foremost like you say it is. If it was, then you'd be buying a traditional scope with adjustable parallax and magnification for a similar price rather than jerking off about what you think the newest meta prism scope for your SHTF action hero fantasies is.
                If that were true, I'd have left the eotech and magnifier on it. LPVO may be superior. I'm not sure but I'm liking the 5x with mounted dot. It seems like the best of all worlds. Accurate cheek weld magnified shots for tight groups and a red dot for self defense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if we're talking strictly recreational use, nothing matters. there are no stakes and it's just for fun. so what difference does it make? if we're talking in terms of why the 2nd ammendment and weapons in general exist, it's for combat. to that end a prism is hard to beat 99% of the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if we're talking strictly recreational use, nothing matters
                Thinking those skills and the quality of equipment don't overlap is dumb. The consumer market has driven advancements in AR's far more than any military contract. Would you argue that a match grade barrel is bad because it has a different set of requirements than the military?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                when did i say that?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just got back from the range myself. I was shooting my TA31 RCO with no RMR mounted on a block 2 upper. It is very easy to shoot a prism at close range using the Bindon Aiming Concept(only Chads can do it though).

            Seriously though, it's quite easy to shoot fast and close with a quality prism scope if you don't fucking suck. I even had my fiber optic taped about 90% off so the chevron was just a dark red triangle instead of a red dot bright triangle. It just takes a bit of practice is all but if you do practice it then it is very easy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It is very easy to shoot a prism at close range using the Bindon Aiming Concept(only Chads can do it though).

              were all really proud that you can read the fucking manual.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't read the manual, I bought my 'cog used for cheap. Well, cheap by ACOG standards.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Codec ringing
                >Snake this is Otacon. Try opening your eyes to increase your field of view.
                >Got it thanks.
                >Beboo.
                Some people need that level of handholding tbh senpai.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What an absolutely retarded post.
          >p-prisms have good FOV!
          No, the TA31 and Elcan 1-4x have good FOV. It is not an inherent quality of prisms at all.
          >trijicon or elcan have stacked more bodies alone than all other manufacturers combined.
          Excellent observation you stupid fuck. This is neither a Trijicon nor an Elcan.
          >a poor craftsman blames his tools
          A poor shooter buys Primary Arms.

          Having a smaller housing like this with a 5x magnification means the FOV is going to be tiny. That's literally how optics fundamentally work.

          The PA 3x microprism has better FOV than every acog except for the TA44 (1x) and the PA 1x microprism has almost double the FOV of the TA44. When comparing the 3x acogs the PA btfos them, 38ft for the PA vs 25ft TA50 and 19ft TA33.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The PA 3x microprism has better FOV than every acog except for the TA44 (1x)
            The TA31 has one less foot and yet greater power magnification. This is why the TA31 is the best ACOG, and in fact the best magnified optic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The PA 3x microprism has one less foot of FOV than the TA44 and yet has double the magnification.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's very cool. Shame it can barely do better than a 4x optic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep coping.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                different anon but sig makes a 5x that has 36 feet iirc and it's like $500

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That thing is kinda cool, shame it weighs so much.

                Keep coping.

                Coping with what exactly? There is one good ACOG and it's the TA31. I don't care about any of the rest of them.

                I would very much like for Primary arms to release a 4x optic that is smaller, lighter, with better glass, and equivalent or better FOV. But for some reason it's been 30+ years and nobody is up to the task.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the 5x should be around 25 feet if the spitfire 5x is anything to go by. idk how the math is done but the PA 3x has a FOV of 38 feet, i bet you could calculate a 5x value based on that number somehow.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because 4x is fucking stupid you dumb moron. Its too much of a middling shitty magnification. Everyone in arg and irl prefers the 3x acog, even the dipshit youtubers prefer everything about the 3x acog. 4 x is stupid the proper most usable and thus sellable profitable magnification jumps are 1x, 3x, 5x. You fucking middling moron. Cope and move more goalposts.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone in arg

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone in arg and irl prefers the 3x acog,
                No they don't. TA31 is GOAT. 4x is the original ACOG for a reason, and the best. They got it right the first time.
                >thus sellable profitable magnification jumps are 1x, 3x, 5x
                That's literally just because every prism manufacturer knows they can't compete with the TA31, so they don't even try.

                https://i.imgur.com/r9Qoyso.png

                How many more broken nightforces have you seen compared to broken acogs?

                Not exactly a fair comparison, despite me owning and liking both. ACOGs are a general issue item with vastly more in use, while Nightforce has been largely limited to small SOF unit purchases and small sniper/marksman optic purchases.

                The reasonable take is frankly that if you break either some vastly out of the ordinary shit is going on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The PA 3x has better fov than the TA33 because it has less eye relief

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What an absolutely retarded post.
        >p-prisms have good FOV!
        No, the TA31 and Elcan 1-4x have good FOV. It is not an inherent quality of prisms at all.
        >trijicon or elcan have stacked more bodies alone than all other manufacturers combined.
        Excellent observation you stupid fuck. This is neither a Trijicon nor an Elcan.
        >a poor craftsman blames his tools
        A poor shooter buys Primary Arms.

        Having a smaller housing like this with a 5x magnification means the FOV is going to be tiny. That's literally how optics fundamentally work.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the 5x spitfire has significantly more FOV and eye relief than the 5.5x ACOG. you are clueless

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And this optic is not the 5x spitfire.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i would be incredibly surprised if the performance deviated in any meaningful way. it is obviously PA's response to the vortex 5x.
              not that unreasonable to extrapolate performance from an existing optic that is functionally identical.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the difference is the spitfire has much coarser adjustment and vortex's rationale is 'its not a military optic'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and? the 3x PA prism has 1/4 moa adjustments. what has that got to do with anything? the rationale is it's not a precision optic. which i don't agree with but in any case, click value is totally arbitrary.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >click value is totally arbitrary.

                no its not. finer adjustment means a better zero.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how many shots do you use to zero your rifle?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                arbitrary in terms of manufacturing. they could put in whatever value they want, 1 moa is just slightly cheaper to produce.
                again what has this got to do with a discussion of image quality? adjustments have no impact on this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol primary arms prisms always have the best fov and eyebox possible. Guaranteed better than anything else on the market. You could also just not jump to conclusions like an ignorant stupid woman you negative nancy

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Impressive. Very nice.

    Let's see the eye relief/FOV.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let’s see Paul Allen’s micro prism.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't love the vortex reticle either it's way smaller on the 3x than the 5x. It's not too small on the 5x. In fact, it's fine. The reason I don't like it is that it's calibrated for 5.56 and I have it on a .300blk, bummer.
    What the Vortex has that the primary arms doesn't is the ability to mount it low for a cheek weld with a red dot on top that's still at a reasonable height. That way your rifle is usable for home defense which is honestly the most likely scenario any of us will use our rifles. What would be your answer for closer distance uses if you get the primary arms 5x?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No piggyback option
    Why do they always do 99% of the work then leave off the feature that would make it perfect.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they sell mounts for these to add a 45* offset

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        45 degree is gamer dogshit not actually useable with nvg.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nvg
          >bitching about gamer dogshit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone who does predator hunting does it with nvg now. I don't even know daytime yote or pig hunters now.

            Night vision isn't some new standard for anons, just because 1 or 2 anons invested the money and then bought the overpriced mounts being pushed by their favorite youtuber. The vast majority do not have night vision goggles. It's a multi-thousand dollar nerd larp that could be put towards more guns.

            It's $1600 to buy a mono. $2400 for gen 3. Sub $1k if you want a weapon mount only option. Less if you're willing to blast IR. Where the fuck you been?

            You work for PA? Put a rail on it if you want people to take it seriously.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              all the ones I know use thermals

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Night vision isn't some new standard for anons, just because 1 or 2 anons invested the money and then bought the overpriced mounts being pushed by their favorite youtuber. The vast majority do not have night vision goggles. It's a multi-thousand dollar nerd larp that could be put towards more guns.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally everyone has at least a PVS-14 these days

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my brother in christ if you're dropping the money on NVGs just go get a first-world made optic

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that pic
            >ACOG is pointing at a bright sky, while the Primary Arms appears to be pointed at a wall inside which will reasonably result in taking a worse picture as your camera ups exposure time or the ISO setting
            I'm not arguing that Primary Arms has equal optical quality, but come on now.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not comparing the quality, just the recticles here.
              also, that is an interior wall for the ACOG, but just a different wall in different lighting

              I like the SLx microprism. 1/3rd the size of the TA11's 3.5x, 1/3rd the cost, 1/3rd the weight, and about... let's say 70% as good eyebox and quality wise.

              the TA11 is obviously hands down better but it's also massive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >70% as good
                you have about 250% less light gathering power in a micro prism as you do with an ACOG

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                now take this picture at dusk and see how well it works

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                4x

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/hR90O8y.jpg

            I'm not comparing the quality, just the recticles here.
            also, that is an interior wall for the ACOG, but just a different wall in different lighting

            I like the SLx microprism. 1/3rd the size of the TA11's 3.5x, 1/3rd the cost, 1/3rd the weight, and about... let's say 70% as good eyebox and quality wise.

            the TA11 is obviously hands down better but it's also massive

            I felt like taking a picture of my own green PA 3x micro because the quality on those wasn't great.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody cares about you nodfags

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This
      I want rmr or rmrc platform on the top to mount a dot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Canted is better, and they have a canted adapter for their mini acog mount.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not for nods

          https://i.imgur.com/sMzhJlO.jpg

          Is there anything better than the ACSS reticle? No, no there isn't.

          Horseshoe too thick, would not bang

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For nods I'll use a dedicated rifle, with a eotech or 20mm red dot. Not saying you are wrong but most people own multiple rifles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's cringe

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok kiddo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he got the only bad ACOG

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what makes it bad?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's a fucking 6x brick. by some miracle trijicon made a prism that weighs more than an LPVO + mount of equal performance.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bigger objective tho

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're supposed to put it on an emplaced MG a foot away from your face

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                tbe brits use them on their DMRs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                true and also stupid. they put red dots on top of elcans as well

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                normal people do that. the 1x on the elcan is shit for close range.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so don't get an elcan dummy. why would you buy a 1x optic and not use the 1x? normal people are retards who get their opinions from shills.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Canted irons?

      is that awkward to use?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not really, they're about as easy to use as any other irons. there just isn't enough clearance for a micro red dot and i had these GG&G irons lying around.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Canted irons are comfy just like canted red dots. They are a really ergonomic. I find it much faster and more comfortable than top mounted backup optics like an rmr on a acog

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bigger objective tho

      >weighs more than my 4-32x optic
      >smaller objective
      >1/5 the magnification

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its tougher

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anything that will break a nightforce will break an ACOG

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the housing on the TA648 is like 3mm thick dude. its absolutely tougher than a standard riflescope

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              housing damage isn't really an area of concern. 3mm of aluminum isn't going to stop a bullet any better a paper thin sheet would. Not to mention it's not exactly the weak link in the system at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It can better absorb impacts like when your MRAP gets flipped by an IED. And have fun with you 4-32 or whatever losing zero at minimum

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >dude it's built to tism housing thickness

              Who cares

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well were talking about durability so it seemed relevant. are you just scrolling down the front page and replying to random posts while on the toilet?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            KeK. NF is amazing a zero chance an atacr is as tough as an ACOG, the housing is too thin, their are too many moving parts.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How many more broken nightforces have you seen compared to broken acogs?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    primary arms owners once again trying to justify buying the biggest piece of shit optic because "muh astigmatism" or 3 ounces of weight savings over a 30 year old optic that still BTFOs it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      out of all the cheapo prisms, the PA one is the best. vortex only has 1-moa clicks on theirs which is pretty disgusting for a modern optic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Muh astigmatism is very fucking real. Red dots are fucking worthless to me at any distance greater than 15 yards.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh hell yeah, I'd hoped they would release one of these. I'll buy one and report my findings to PrepHole. It'll go on a 2-gun rifle with a 45° offset already on it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I own this optic and can confirm. Very damn good for the price point and works on my AR perfectly. Eye relief could be better though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody owns this optic except reviewers who got press copies.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >primary arms
    Chink poorfag garbage

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread has only reinforced my hatred of poor people.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there anything better than the ACSS reticle? No, no there isn't.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JM-1 BDC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let me show you what they copied it from. Better ranging than acss and more wind holds.

      Canted is better, and they have a canted adapter for their mini acog mount.

      Not really. It's awkward to use weak side. Top mount is usually easier with nods, at least. I understand why people do it, I just don't prefer it.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you do for 1x? Point shoot?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have the 1x
    regret not getting the 3x but i'm retarded
    love the thing very much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get the 3X micro magnifier with a flip mount.
      https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slx-3x-micro-magnifier

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How's it compare to the HM3X?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No clue, but considering it appears to be essentially the same construction/design as the micro prisms, it should be good and you'll likely be happy with it.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wish they made an ACOG with a PSO reticle.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally why. Pretty much every available ACOG reticle is superior and it has ranging built in to the reticle itself, so you don't have to aim over to the side to range then move over to take the shot.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally why. Pretty much every available ACOG reticle is superior and it has ranging built in to the reticle itself, so you don't have to aim over to the side to range then move over to take the shot.

      There's no point in making an ACOG with a PSO reticle, because the PSO scope still relies on using the turrets to make adjustments rather than having holdover points on the reticle. The holdovers the PSO scope gives are for shooting at particularly long ranges after you're at the end of the elevation adjustment.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so many posts read like ChatGPT bots

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