>I never realized how big these fricking planes were.
I think this phrase has been said about a LOT of military aircraft. For some reason despite them being in lots of games and movies most people just don't ever really feel the scale of modern jet aircraft, both fighters and bombers, without seeing "regular" setting comparisons or best of all seeing them in person.
I guess they assume they're roughly the same size as P-51s and B-17s or something, as if fighters & bombers didn't balloon in size following the advent of jets.
From certain angles it looks like the pilot is just riding on top of a rocket in some modern fighters, not actually inside it. When you stand beside them your brain sometimes sees it that way.
>it looks like the pilot is just riding on top of a rocket in some modern fighters, not actually inside it.
That...that's what they are, anon. That is basically what fighter pilots are doing, unironically. When you think about it, the wienerpit isn't really the "jet," the engines are. The pilot just, well, rides it and/or them.
I guess they assume they're roughly the same size as P-51s and B-17s or something, as if fighters & bombers didn't balloon in size following the advent of jets.
I always like to point out the Su-34 is 2ft 3in longer than a B-17G.
playing DCS with VR made me realize the actual scale of a fighter jet. AIM-120s look small in videos/photos/viewing the game on a monitor. But seeing it in VR made me realize how big everyting is
Americans require the capability to heat up hot pockets at FL500 while dropping nuclear bombs.
The images of Burger Kings being offloaded to troops in the middle east isn't a meme. Americans want our convenience and comfort anywhere and at any time in the world.
Nobody is doing that shit for a fricking BOMBER lmao. Might as well make 350k + pension + benefits + vacation + free flights + 14 on 14 off + tip + blowjob working at a major airline instead.
If I'm wearing a diaper and going hungry it's because I'm in the wienerpit of an f-22.
you missed my point. if you cannot go 20 hours without eating or taking a shit, you are a fat manchild. try fasting one of these days, don't be a slave to your own body.
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It's more like if you don't eat for that long, you are NOT at your best. You try doing your normal work-load while fasting and see how well you do it.
Pretty sure you don't want pilots for bombers to be hangry enough to make mistakes.
C-130s had ovens until the C-130J when they were replaced with microwaves. Unfortunately the microwaves don't work when the flight deck lighting is set to NVG mode.
Just imagine shitting in the back of what could arguably the pinnacle of flight technology on a long endurance mission, especially if carrying nukes. Now I'm just imagining a pilot pulling out his phone out of habit only to realize there's no signal halfway over the ocean, cursing himself for eating Chipotle the night before the Big Mission
>"hey Miller, I gotta shit, you can handle this $700 million plane yourself for a few minutes right?
It's kind of a misnomer. The B1 does have a higher maximum payload than the B52 but its operational range while carrying that payload is so small that it's basically pointless.
>its operational range while carrying that payload is so small that it's basically pointless.
the operational range of US war planes is that of Tel-aviv to Tehran
all of our military equipment was designed for that theatre, and when you realize this, the shortcomings of all the US weapons systems become crystal clear
I had models as a kid. 1:72 P-51s were the best to fly around the loving room making engine noises. I couldn’t even hold a fricking 1:72 F-15 because it was a monstrosity.
Some people were posting about thr NGAD earlier this week I think. And that thing dwarfs the F-22. When we finally get a diecast model (maybe in the 2030s) it’s going to be comically big compared to a P-51 despite it only having 1 crew.
They're basically Space Planes, they have to be big, most of that space is probably taken up by massive fuel tanks. Its a largely classified design though so we'll never know for sure. We don't even know its real service ceiling.
>They're basically Space Planes
Shutup or you will get vanned. Anyway the mars quadrant is over and there is no action there any more nothing has been even seen moving in years. They are looking for any that got away in Neptunes moons but they were wiped out and you know it and I know it.
It's funny how despite It being a flying wing design (supposedly it generates more lift and has more internal space for fuel than conventional designs), still gets beaten by B-52 in both range and payload
>still gets beaten by B-52 in both range and payload
B-52 is frick huge and a long boi tho
That was the reason why the original YB-49 was cancelled, since it was still outperformed by conventional designs whilst costing much more and being more difficult to fly (at the time before fly-by-wire tech was a thing). It has only become relevant again for stealth
Yeah I used to think B2s were gimmick planes but then I realized they can fit 16 JASSMs in their bays. Russians are barely able to launch a few dozens shitty cruise missiles with a range of a few hundred kilometers at once, meanwhile USAF can literally destroy 300+ targets anywhere in the world with a single salvo, and they can keep doing this until there's no valuable military target left, they are aiming to have a stockpile of 10k+ JASSM-ERs...
>Invisible Defenders
on a strategic bomber designed to penetrate enemy airspace and nuke the bejeezus out of their cities
is similar to >peace is our profession
No? The spirit is only quiet when you're beneath or in front of it. The engines aren't magic, the exhaust volume is equivalent to any other engine that produces equivalent thrust.
The only time I saw a B2 was at the LRAFB airshow. It looked like someone threw a playing card through the air looking at it coming head on. You couldn't hear anything and then suddenly that big deadly fricker was there. Pretty amazing anon.
Anon, those are just very tiny people
they aren't, that's just a bunch of people under 6ft
>post midgets
>WOAH THIS PLANE IS HUGE!
>I never realized how big these fricking planes were.
I think this phrase has been said about a LOT of military aircraft. For some reason despite them being in lots of games and movies most people just don't ever really feel the scale of modern jet aircraft, both fighters and bombers, without seeing "regular" setting comparisons or best of all seeing them in person.
I guess they assume they're roughly the same size as P-51s and B-17s or something, as if fighters & bombers didn't balloon in size following the advent of jets.
because pretty much every photo or video is taken with the sky as the background (weird huh?) or camera angles that makes them hard to compare
From certain angles it looks like the pilot is just riding on top of a rocket in some modern fighters, not actually inside it. When you stand beside them your brain sometimes sees it that way.
>it looks like the pilot is just riding on top of a rocket in some modern fighters, not actually inside it.
That...that's what they are, anon. That is basically what fighter pilots are doing, unironically. When you think about it, the wienerpit isn't really the "jet," the engines are. The pilot just, well, rides it and/or them.
I always like to point out the Su-34 is 2ft 3in longer than a B-17G.
playing DCS with VR made me realize the actual scale of a fighter jet. AIM-120s look small in videos/photos/viewing the game on a monitor. But seeing it in VR made me realize how big everyting is
It's a bomber. It has to be big.
Those are 5th graders and short moms.
Wonder what they do together
literally has a bed, microwave, and bathroom.
>microwave
wtf? do people in the military really eat processed garbage cooked in a microwave? that's kind of cheap
B-21 Raider comes with a Big Green Egg and roof terrace for grilling
>low n slow cooking to decrease IR signature
literal 5d chess
>bombs in the back
>brisket up front
YEP
we do things different in tejas
TBF a microwave is fine for heating up water for MREs
The alternative would be figuring out how to fit an entire kitchen in there
a microwave is an entire kitchen
The organic sushi restaurant couldn't be installed because of security concerns with the Asian employees
Americans require the capability to heat up hot pockets at FL500 while dropping nuclear bombs.
The images of Burger Kings being offloaded to troops in the middle east isn't a meme. Americans want our convenience and comfort anywhere and at any time in the world.
They sometimes fly missions that last over 20 hours. A few amenities become necessary at that level.
>USAF pilots can't go 20 hours without a snack and a poopie
Nobody is doing that shit for a fricking BOMBER lmao. Might as well make 350k + pension + benefits + vacation + free flights + 14 on 14 off + tip + blowjob working at a major airline instead.
If I'm wearing a diaper and going hungry it's because I'm in the wienerpit of an f-22.
you missed my point. if you cannot go 20 hours without eating or taking a shit, you are a fat manchild. try fasting one of these days, don't be a slave to your own body.
It's more like if you don't eat for that long, you are NOT at your best. You try doing your normal work-load while fasting and see how well you do it.
Pretty sure you don't want pilots for bombers to be hangry enough to make mistakes.
sure thing bomber
Don't look up "Su-34 wienerpit galley" the ivan
Theres the story of SR71 pilots putting their inflight meal next to the front wind shield to cook it
C-130s had ovens until the C-130J when they were replaced with microwaves. Unfortunately the microwaves don't work when the flight deck lighting is set to NVG mode.
They need popcorn
/k/ jannies could be given a magical lamp and they would wish for a hot pocket heated in a B2's microwave 3 separate times. don;t ask me how I know.
Just imagine shitting in the back of what could arguably the pinnacle of flight technology on a long endurance mission, especially if carrying nukes. Now I'm just imagining a pilot pulling out his phone out of habit only to realize there's no signal halfway over the ocean, cursing himself for eating Chipotle the night before the Big Mission
>"hey Miller, I gotta shit, you can handle this $700 million plane yourself for a few minutes right?
As fun to the conversation here is a "galley" from a B17.
>Bee Sevunteen Bawmurr
Intellivision? I really wanted that game, and the voice module.
its like a clown car for bombs
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The plane only looks big because it's very far away.
You need some space for ordnance, imagine bombing Serbia and running out of bombs.
literally my worst fear.
God I still love the YF-23. It was the better design as it turned out. AF generals attached to the "dogfighting thrust vector" meme were wrong.
>[laughs in skunkworks]
lets see skunkwork's stealth bombers
They are so stealthy you cannot even see them!
Does NG have a skunkworks equivalent?
no, and its on purpose
there's a reason one cost almost as much as a fricking aircraft carrier
I was surprised when I found out the B1 has a greater payload capacity than the B52
The F-35 has an internal payload capacity on par with the B-17.
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>The F-35 has an internal payload capacity on par with the B-17.
F35 carries 4 fricking missiles
thats it.
fricking 4
for this reason alone, its a complete failure
you're a worthless moron
>you're a worthless moron
but enough about the F-35
you're a worthless moron
why do you defend it?
its a disgrace to American military supremecy, a complete boondoggle made for israeli-theatre combat, nothing more
>supremecy
you're a worthless moron
You say all those things as if they're true.
Why do you do that? It's very strange.
>You say all those things as if they're true.
.....what was said that wasnt "true"
>site your sources
the B17 carried exactly 0 missiles, moron
It's kind of a misnomer. The B1 does have a higher maximum payload than the B52 but its operational range while carrying that payload is so small that it's basically pointless.
>its operational range while carrying that payload is so small that it's basically pointless.
the operational range of US war planes is that of Tel-aviv to Tehran
all of our military equipment was designed for that theatre, and when you realize this, the shortcomings of all the US weapons systems become crystal clear
nope
>Even in a completely unrelated topic he finds a way to blame the israelites
Wrong and you're a homosexual.
Carrying 16xACM, each 1650kg, in a standoff flight profile it has a range of 4425nm without refueling.
Tel Aviv to Tehran is 900nm away, and the missile has another 2000nm range. A B1B based in Tel Aviv could strike Tokyo.
rent fricking free in /misc/tard's head
It's a strategic bomber, anon. They don't come in smol.
Unless you're an F-111 but then that's relative.
I had models as a kid. 1:72 P-51s were the best to fly around the loving room making engine noises. I couldn’t even hold a fricking 1:72 F-15 because it was a monstrosity.
Some people were posting about thr NGAD earlier this week I think. And that thing dwarfs the F-22. When we finally get a diecast model (maybe in the 2030s) it’s going to be comically big compared to a P-51 despite it only having 1 crew.
Hey! That's hometown Palmdale, CA.
Note that the star on the ground is made out of B2s.
amazing
They're basically Space Planes, they have to be big, most of that space is probably taken up by massive fuel tanks. Its a largely classified design though so we'll never know for sure. We don't even know its real service ceiling.
>They're basically Space Planes
Shutup or you will get vanned. Anyway the mars quadrant is over and there is no action there any more nothing has been even seen moving in years. They are looking for any that got away in Neptunes moons but they were wiped out and you know it and I know it.
Isn't the B21 much smaller
It's funny how despite It being a flying wing design (supposedly it generates more lift and has more internal space for fuel than conventional designs), still gets beaten by B-52 in both range and payload
>still gets beaten by B-52 in both range and payload
B-52 is frick huge and a long boi tho
That was the reason why the original YB-49 was cancelled, since it was still outperformed by conventional designs whilst costing much more and being more difficult to fly (at the time before fly-by-wire tech was a thing). It has only become relevant again for stealth
Yeah I used to think B2s were gimmick planes but then I realized they can fit 16 JASSMs in their bays. Russians are barely able to launch a few dozens shitty cruise missiles with a range of a few hundred kilometers at once, meanwhile USAF can literally destroy 300+ targets anywhere in the world with a single salvo, and they can keep doing this until there's no valuable military target left, they are aiming to have a stockpile of 10k+ JASSM-ERs...
>10k JASSM-ER's
>Rapid Dragons to launch all of them
just imagine
The men who created planes like this might as well be a different race from the mutts in this picture.
>Invisible "Defenders"
kek
>Stanley Strangelove
What are you trying to prove with a screenshot from a 60 year old comedy film?
>Invisible Defenders
on a strategic bomber designed to penetrate enemy airspace and nuke the bejeezus out of their cities
is similar to
>peace is our profession
>The ability to defend yourself, with retaliatory strikes if necessary, is somehow incompatible with the concept of "peace"
idgi
>peace is our profession
war is just something we do for kicks.
>That's nice shooting, soldier!
Despite their large physical size, these planes are effectively invisible to radars
b2's are sick
obviously the stealth is the entire point, but it's wild how quiet they are
>how quiet they are when you're on the ground and they're at their service ceiling
fix'd
wrong, dumbass
No? The spirit is only quiet when you're beneath or in front of it. The engines aren't magic, the exhaust volume is equivalent to any other engine that produces equivalent thrust.
>equivalent to any other engine that produces equivalent thrust
Go stand in the corner and ponder the enormous absurdity of what you just said.
They have to be big for the original pilots.
Those people are just very far away
I'm just happy anti-flash white is back in style
the plane is really big, I've seen em flying and they're frickin huge
just man and his gigantic flying machines
forgot pic
Oh lawd, he comin'
Yeah, the Do really surprised me with how big it is.
The only time I saw a B2 was at the LRAFB airshow. It looked like someone threw a playing card through the air looking at it coming head on. You couldn't hear anything and then suddenly that big deadly fricker was there. Pretty amazing anon.
Keep in mind
Max takeoff weight of the F-15 is similar to the max takeoff weight of a fully loaded B-17 flying fortress bomber.
F-15E Strike Eagle max takeoff weight is about 15,000 lb more.
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