I need some ideas from the diy hivemind.
The picture shows stairs in a therapy pool.
The owner cannot properly walk and has trouble using these stairs due to their height.
They can still use the bottom stair due to the bouyancy but the farther they get out of the water, the harder it gets.
I would like to add additional stairs on top of each existing one to basically half the height.
The question is: HOW?
I thought about 3d printing, with a lot of infill and then glueing them in place. Maybe even fill the print to make it heavier/negatively bouyant.
Any other ideas? Budget is sort of limited, because if the solution get's too expensive, it might become easier to just by a special new ladder/stairs.
>just by a special new ladder/stairs
the correct answer is a lifting seat
you can buy one off a closed hotel at its liquidation sale
or build a very long ramp
like out of an aluminum extension ladder and second hand acrylic sheet
which is also turning up all over the place since covid hysteria is calming down
As a cripple myself, I highly recommend going with this. Half-steps will do the job, until they don't, and the risk of injury is only going to keep increasing over time.
Obviously not the cheapest route, brand new you're looking at $2k and up, more like $5k on average, but used ones very frequently go for less than $800. They're safe, they're easy, and it will always do the job so long as the user can hold up their own head.
build a very very long ramp
We discussed a ramp, but the person using it does not feel comfortable using a ramp.
They want stairs.
To elaborate:
Taking a few seconds of rest between two steps is easier than doing that on a sloped surfce.
Goring sideways, while holding on to the rail is also quite hard on a ramp.
Chuck some bricks down and hotglue them in place
I would use paving stones. You can get them free on craigslist and their weight should hold them in place without any glue
This is a good answer. Just cut them to fit and make sure the patient treads lightly on them so they don’t slip around.
Enjoy the lawsuit when they slip on your loose stones
If you're inserting half-stairs, I'd be worried about the reduced width of the step.
My thought would be maybe doing a switch-back type of thing, where you climb up a step, move left/right on the step for the half-step interval, and then climb up the next step from there.
As for "how", I mean, the proper solution is probably to rip off the liner or coating in that area and put down fresh concrete, then reseal it.
That's probably annoying work dealing with the liner, but I'm not sure making solid fricking bricks of plastic is going to be cheaper, considering prices a decade ago when I played around with 3d printing.
I haven't seen it myself yet. But you are right, it looks like concrete and liner. That would mean I could probable cut the stairs out of pourous concrete and then put new liner over it.
I'm not one to care about it from a building standpoint, but make good and sure whatever you make is ADA or whatever the frick compliant. Just because grandma doesn't care if it's legal, doesn't mean her kids aren't gonna come after you when she inevitably drowns because she shouldn't be out there by herself in the first place. Put your safety above hers.
I'm with this guy. Don't fricking do it, way too much liability
>don't help your elders goyim, or else ~~*lawyers*~~ will sue
this is why the west is collapsing
If they can't climb a normal set of stairs on their own they are well past their value to society.
Look where their servant has come for help. Is this job program a good use of resources?
>KILL YOUR ELDERS
>THEY CANNOT WALK SO THEY'RE WORTHLESS TO YOU
>KILL THEM NOW
>DESTROY YOUR HERITAGE
Buy the special shit. Not even kidding. Some sort of patient lift could be useful too. Build for the dying gummer to get worse. We ALL get worse (I'm older than you, a lot older). What works today is inadequate tomorrow.
You're a stupid child because you think in memes. Why do you imagine that insightful?
The stair design needs complete replacement with WIDE straight stairs, proper grab rails on both sides, and anti-skid on the treads. That can be done with GRP or prebuilt stairs but it's not cost-effective or an intelligent use of time to DIY everything. You don't know that or you'd have mentioned specific solutions because you're too stupid to DIY anything.
"ADA pool equipment" is very common and often quite reasonable. The professionals know a key part of PrepHole is not to DIY everything. Even machine and fab shops outsource Blanchard grinding, EDM and waterjet.
Let em die. Stop trying to play God homosexual.
On board with trips here. If they cant even walk up that set of stairs, then its time for natural selection to run its course.
Ist it possible to glue pool liner onto a GRP pool?
What are the dimensions of the pool, if you've got the length you can install a shallow step ramp.
There are loads of options out there from just a quick google, pic related
I know it's not in your budget anon, but just for kicks, I wonder how much a pool maker would charge to come in & properly add two, maybe three, extra steps.
It's just a little masonry, my shot in the dark would be from $500 to $1,500.
Normally, that is what I would do. But after checking some more pictures, it looks like a GRP tub.
Maybe one could sand the material, glue down some bricks and then cover them with epox and fiberglass mats.
Another sanding and then painting with pool sealant?
you want to talk to an "occupational therapist" This is literally their job, figuring out shit like this.
Get you a big ass stone ball and a come along. When the owner wants to get out the pool pull the ball in with the ratchet. The owner will be gently lifted out of the water by the displacement.
The thing here is, this is supposed to be an interim solution.
The owner will likely not live there for much longer.
Therefore installing i.e. a lift is out of question.
Thanks for the input so far. I'll see what I can use ...
Put in one of those lifting chairs. Even though the owner won't be there forever, it's far safer and actually easier than trying to retrofit extra half steps. A quick look on FB marketplace has some for less than $1k.
If $850 + some bolts is too much because grandma is about to move out, then she just needs someone to go to the pool with her, and help her get in and out. She could bake some cookies for the neighbors, most people really wouldn't mind taking 3 minutes to help an elderly woman out.
Maybe put a slope on the steps themselves from left to right so each step merges into the next.
You can also put a handbar along the middle of the steps, I've seen those
fill the pool with more water until it overflows, stick a float under granny laying down and she will be carried out by the tide
any alteration to the steps is dangerous at best.
chair host anons are only ones making sense itt
Do intermediate steps on half like low profile loft steps
I would straight up just put down some landscape blocks that were half the height of a step such that they could hold the handle and then put one foot on the mid step, then down to real, other foot down to the next mid step etc
It's really the only usable option
I think you can use boat adhesive in wet environments too
Have them sit on the lower step with their back to the steps, they use their arms and legs to scooch up one step at a time. On the pool deck have a stable seat that they scooch up onto then stand up. This is a classic technique for doing PT rehab in a standard pool.
EZ PZ , costs almost nothing, non permanent.
I would say that if the client cannot use stairs then it is simply not safe for them to be in a pool.
There are many drowning in my area related to people with limited mobility who get into a pool, tire themselves out, cannot phisically exit the pool, panic, pass out after some time and drown... often in water that they could stand up or even sit down in.
These "shallow water drownings" are quiet a distinct class, and that's exactly why laws around building pools are SO strict.
Children, elderly people, obese people, drunk people all drown in very different ways.
Therapy pools usually have a very long ramp with a rail along its entire length, and often aren't even wider than a meter.
LOL why would someone put the wifi symbol in a pool? what idiots!
Sounds like they need a slide