I need rain gear recommendations.
I don't own any rain gear, I tough it out wearing wool, or a light jacket on my outings that only last a weekend.
Now I'm going out for a whole week, and lots of rain is expected. I am hammock camping with a fly. I washed it with tech wash.
I bought backpack fly, and my stuff is in dry bags.
Other than that, I own no other rain gear. Ponchos suck ass.
What gear should I look into to stay dry in a hike, or in a canoe?
>What gear should I look into to stay dry in a hike
Rain gear. Cabela's and bass pro have cheap, lightweight rain gear.
>or in a canoe?
That part kind of sucks. I've still gotten soaked in rain pants and rain jackets while kayaking. A one piece suit, or waterproof overalls and a rain jacket.
No matter what you wear you're gonna get wet if you're doing any activity in the rain because sweat will accumulate under your rain gear.
Cabela's and cheap do not belong in the same sentence.....
I got their rain jacket for $30. Frogg toggs rain suits from there can be had for less than $70 depending on what you want. Their original suits are still $30.
Must be American then?
Yeah
Ahhh ok makes sense. Cabela's Canada is $$$
Even still? They're just bass pro with a different name here. You're basically finding the same shit at either place with different branding. The $30 Cabela's rain swept jacket is sold at both places here for the same price.
Cheapest rain jacket at cabelas Canada is 80$ not on sale. 60$ on sale
I work in the forest as a land surveyor so I'm good on rain gear, all my shit has to be fire resistant. But thanks for letting me know anyway
amazon and wal*mart have the frog toggs ul2 jacket and pants combo for $30 or less. the pants are useless but the 2 pack is sometimes cheaper than just the jacket.
ul2 is the one you want, they make frog toggs in a ton of different fabrics. ul2's the fabric you want for hiking.
This archived post is the best rundown of all the different materials worth buying for rain gear. All "DWR" rain gear is kind of garbage and not actually waterproof. https://archive.alice.al/out/thread/2416304/#q2422165
TL;DR If you live in America buy a set of Frog Toggs UL2 and turn the pants into shorts or something. If you live in Europe buy a Columbia Outdry jacket on sale.
It is double-important to listen to me and ignore any other less educated replies you get because DWR rain gear is going to double suck dick in a canoe. All the stuff in anon's list I linked you will basically never wet out.
>I bought backpack fly, and my stuff is in dry bags.
Use a pack liner instead, it keeps your gear drier weighs less and doesn't make all your gear pack funny because its in dry bags. Put the important stuff like your fire kit and electronics in dry bags for double protection. The best pack liner is a trash compactor bag cut to the height of your pack, with the top rolled like you would with a backpack's top.
If you need any other tips just ask I live in one of the highest rainfall parts of the world.
actually if you're canoeing i would use a pack liner AND the dry bags.
also be aware there's 2 kinds of dry bags, your typical nylon "dry" bags and then pu rubber type ones that are totally waterproof. if you're canoeing you might wanna have both kinds to choose from.
theres also canister solutions for canoes that a lot of people like, i'll let some other anons chime in on that i haven't owned kayaks or a boat in ages.
>No matter what you wear you're gonna get wet if you're doing any activity in the rain because sweat will accumulate under your rain gear.
this
this. the hard part to accomplish is the balance between not sweating and actually being waterproof. especially since our governments banned the best waterproof clothing material for environmental reasons.
you will sweat guaranteed 100% with any kind of rain pants on. only your torso actually needs to stay dry outside of comfort reasons which is why i'd suggest foregoing them (or if you wind up with the frog toggs which comes with them, turn them into shorts like most ppl do)
Check out the Packa. It’s a hybrid between a poncho and a jacket.
The failure points of a poncho are it’s baggyness and lack of sleeves. While the loose fitting nature of a poncho leaves you well ventilated, a poncho quickly becomes a floppidy piece of shit in the slightest breeze. It also gets caught on stuff. And the lack of sleeves leaves your arms exposed. Most have absolutely terrible, garbage-tier, shitty hood “designs” (and by design I mean they just cut a roughly human head shaped piece of fabric, sewed it in place, and hoped for the best).
A jacket is just a straight up bad idea in anything but a cold climate. It’s a waterproof layer, so it’s going to trap heat and make you sweat. If you only hike when it’s below about 50° then go for it.
The Packa solves most of this. It’s baggy but more form-fitting than a poncho. It has dedicated sleeves and enormous pit zips. It has a hood someone actually put some thought into. It’s just a really well thought out rain jacket. Technically it’s a cagoule, I think.
Oh, also umbrella. Great choice a lot of the time.
the packa owns too, the packa has anon's seal of approval
it fixes almost all the downsides to ponchos if you liked the idea of it but found out they suck
would pic related work on a cotton hoodie, or a wool sweater, or a sun shirt?
I highly doubt it, but give it a test and report back.
Since you want to hike and canoe, i think a rain jacket will do the trick. You can thank me later.
no and it will make the sun shirt clammy and gross. if you want to understand exactly why look up how 2.5 and 3 layer membrane systems work.
the best rain shells are the ones which don't permeate water to begin with and need no coating. examples include frog toggs ul2, columbia outdry, and the packa's made out of the right kind of stuff too.
you want to avoid the kind that involves repellent being held in a fabric, that shit is for mild showers not canoeing trips.
the cheapest good solution is frog toggs ul2 $30 on amazon. europeans can find columbia outdry jackets $50-60 on sale which is a better deal. frog toggs ul2 have no armpit zippers and tear easily but they're very water proof.
if you must get a normal dwr jacket just get a marmot precip they're like $80 and they'll warranty you a new one for $14 each after that. dwr jackets don't last super long.
my favorite gear from light duty to heavy duty is grundens
t. commercial fisherman