I know frick all about guns
But for me the M1 Carbine is the comfiest gun ever
Its kinda weird how this gun isnt in every American household, you'd think a punchy little carbine, easy to use, cheap, reliable and mass produced would be everyone's door gun.
It's pretty much been supplanted by the AR-15 family and modern PCCs. It's a very cozy gun but .30 carbine isn't terribly cheap unless you reload and even today the M1 has mag/feeding issues.
It is super comfy and fun as hell to shoot. And incredibly accurate. Basically a beefed up 10/22. Is the AR a modern replacement? Sure. But the carbine is noticeably smaller, lighter, and less recoil. A very nice little rifle to toss around for any situation. So far I’ve been surviving off a big case of .30 my uncle gave me. Once that runs out it’s going to a sad day paying out the ass for more ammo.
They were for a time. Basically got supplanted by the AR-15. It happens to everything when the factories eventually stop making them and starts making something else.
It was basically the AR-15 of its time and remained very popular through the '80s, but ARs replaced it. Lots of guerillas and insurgents used them. Still an excellent carbine, and given how many exist, it baffles me that businesses aren't making more ammo, magazines, etc. for these. It's still a very practical home defence weapon, truck gun, ranch rifle, and so on.
they were on their way out in civilian hands well before the ar/ak got mainstream popularity.
just cause supply was limited and it was already running out
if .30 carbine wasn't almost a dollar a round I'd own one. I've been thinking real hard about taking the chance on a Chiappa M1-9. Older reviews say they're shit but newer reviews say they've improved the QC.
well obviously. a 10/22 also has a different mechanism to an M1 too but it's still similar ergos. I'm thinking of an M1-9 because: >I don't really want a 9mm upper >I don't want to pay for an MP5 knockoff >9mm AKs beat themselves to shit >Marlin Camp 9s take S&W mags >PC 9s are kinda ugly to me and don't take 92 mags >I eventually want a 92
It has a lot of qc issues. The 10/22 replica kit is the gold standard if you want ergos and a decent firearm.
Unfortunately Beretta killing the cx4 killer their only 16in 92 mag pcc.
random historical observation: they were really fricking popular in the Pacific in ww2. take a look at footage from that theater, some squads are carrying 50%+ of carbines.
meanwhile in europe you'll see tons of BARs in squads instead.
Someone posted photos of me shooting one of these online and someone else couldn't resist accusing me of "chicken winging" a gun that doesn't have a pistol grip.
Auto ordinance. Though you can still find surplus ones pretty easily and relatively cheap. I have a new production one and it's decent, but I beat myself up for not just waiting for the one from RTI. I would have gotten the surplus one if RTI customer service wasn't so shit and hadn't called me back three months later about the shipping issue.
They are awesome and still capable today
BUT.....
50 years of shit reproductions shitty aftermarket mags have ruined them as a class if you find a low round origonial it is going collector to collector for 5k+ based on production plant.
I shot one a bunch in the CMP during college, I agree, they are delightful.
Its kinda weird how this gun isnt in every American household, you'd think a punchy little carbine, easy to use, cheap, reliable and mass produced would be everyone's door gun.
it's called an AR-15 now.
They are liked for a lot of the same reasons.
It's pretty much been supplanted by the AR-15 family and modern PCCs. It's a very cozy gun but .30 carbine isn't terribly cheap unless you reload and even today the M1 has mag/feeding issues.
>punchy little carbine, easy to use, cheap, reliable and mass produced
you literally just described an AR-15
That said, I love the thing
It is super comfy and fun as hell to shoot. And incredibly accurate. Basically a beefed up 10/22. Is the AR a modern replacement? Sure. But the carbine is noticeably smaller, lighter, and less recoil. A very nice little rifle to toss around for any situation. So far I’ve been surviving off a big case of .30 my uncle gave me. Once that runs out it’s going to a sad day paying out the ass for more ammo.
They were for a time. Basically got supplanted by the AR-15. It happens to everything when the factories eventually stop making them and starts making something else.
Got beat out by the AR and Mini-14
ok
Cod waw?
Only thing /k/omfy about it is the ease of installing one of those M2 kits floating around
THAT THING IS A DAMN GIMMICK SONNY, 30 CARBEEN CANT DO NO DAMAGE
It's a handy little thing. Maybe 6 pounds soaking wet, fires a 7.62mm round with half the energy of a 7.62x39mm, and has a full wooden stock.
>7.62x39mm
>7.62x33mm
Probably 70-80%, definitely not "half" 7.62x39
The muzzle energy of 30 carbine is about the same as .357 magnum.
This is false.
30 carbine has about much energy at 100 yards as a 357 magnum has at the muzzle.
try getting shot with 30 carbine
It was basically the AR-15 of its time and remained very popular through the '80s, but ARs replaced it. Lots of guerillas and insurgents used them. Still an excellent carbine, and given how many exist, it baffles me that businesses aren't making more ammo, magazines, etc. for these. It's still a very practical home defence weapon, truck gun, ranch rifle, and so on.
The AR (and the AK) got too popular and overshadowed every firearm
I know, and it fricking sucks.
The day we left wood furniture guns behind in favor of plastics is the day soul died.
they were on their way out in civilian hands well before the ar/ak got mainstream popularity.
just cause supply was limited and it was already running out
if .30 carbine wasn't almost a dollar a round I'd own one. I've been thinking real hard about taking the chance on a Chiappa M1-9. Older reviews say they're shit but newer reviews say they've improved the QC.
the Chiappa is essentially a blowback 9mm in a body kit, not even close to an M1's light recoiling tappet-piston.
well obviously. a 10/22 also has a different mechanism to an M1 too but it's still similar ergos. I'm thinking of an M1-9 because:
>I don't really want a 9mm upper
>I don't want to pay for an MP5 knockoff
>9mm AKs beat themselves to shit
>Marlin Camp 9s take S&W mags
>PC 9s are kinda ugly to me and don't take 92 mags
>I eventually want a 92
It has a lot of qc issues. The 10/22 replica kit is the gold standard if you want ergos and a decent firearm.
Unfortunately Beretta killing the cx4 killer their only 16in 92 mag pcc.
The 10/22 kit fricks
Its the best thing to happen to the 10/22. Also, the 10 round mags fit in the m1 pouches
random historical observation: they were really fricking popular in the Pacific in ww2. take a look at footage from that theater, some squads are carrying 50%+ of carbines.
meanwhile in europe you'll see tons of BARs in squads instead.
jungle and trenches =carbine
hills and mountains= garand
I miss when ammo to feed it was cheap.
My grandpa carried one in Korea. He loved it. I have a picture of him holding it with a huge smile.
This has to be the lightest gun I have ever held. I can see why everyone wanted one during and after ww2
I want one but they cost $1500 now and ammo is $1 per round.
I got one and I can confirm that it’s a supremely comfy gun.
Yes, a short AR does most things better but no AR can beat the M1 in being comfy.
this. its honestly godtier ergonomics and the easiest weapon to point shoot
Someone posted photos of me shooting one of these online and someone else couldn't resist accusing me of "chicken winging" a gun that doesn't have a pistol grip.
What is the best new production M1 carbine?
Auto ordinance. Though you can still find surplus ones pretty easily and relatively cheap. I have a new production one and it's decent, but I beat myself up for not just waiting for the one from RTI. I would have gotten the surplus one if RTI customer service wasn't so shit and hadn't called me back three months later about the shipping issue.
Can anyone recommend me some magazines for the m1? The 10 rounder it came with works fine but the KCI 15 rounders dont work at all
Shame the 5.7 Johnson never caught on. It came out when .30 carbines and ammo were still cheap.
The superior 5.7
It's cute and shoots pretty good when the old ass mags don't jam up
They are awesome and still capable today
BUT.....
50 years of shit reproductions shitty aftermarket mags have ruined them as a class if you find a low round origonial it is going collector to collector for 5k+ based on production plant.
my grandpa used to say he liked it because you could run like hell with it