I honestly believe the SKS to be superior to the AK. >higher quality milled construction

I honestly believe the SKS to be superior to the AK
>higher quality milled construction
>20" true rifle profile for increases velocity and accuracy
>stupid reliable

And they just have soul, something all these commercial produced AK's will never have, but the SKS is a real military produced rifle

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't they have jamming problem?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Chinese thought the same thing until Vietnam told them to fuck off.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >And they just have soul
    It isn't without irony that your choice of words to describe something having that special little extra... is just a badly worn stock phrase.

  5. 1 month ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    >Milled.
    Milled AKs exist too.
    >Enhanced muzzle velocity.
    Not significantly. 7.62x39mm is pretty low velocity as far as rifle cartridges go. You really don't gain much from 20" and can even get most of the potential out of a barrel as short as 12".
    >Accuracy
    Depends what you are comparing it to, but there are AKs out there that can absolutely keep up with or exceed SKS accuracy.
    >Stupid reliable.
    So is an AK.
    >Military produced rifle.
    This is true. We can't really get a true military issued rifle in an AK format here in the US, it has to be a parts kit build or fully civilian rifle from the start even if it's built by an actual milspec AK manufacturer such as Molot, Izmash or Cugir. That's not the case everywhere though, as some lucky euros can have actual no shit Soviet surplus AKMs that simply have the fire selector blocked once they jump through the requisite red tape.

    In any case I think the SKS as a military rifle was a mistake. They really weren't thinking enough about what utilizing an intermediate caliber allowed them to do, and by the time they did they had millions of neither-fish-nor-fowl "carbines" that were too long to be true carbines, too short rage and underpowered for a DMR role and gimped by a fixed 10rd magazine.
    They made ok police and security patrol rifles and it's a huge win for us that they are easily importable, but as a combat weapon it was obsolete from the beginning. The Chinese really liked them over the AK however, and they developed the Type 81 as a result. I can definitely see an argument for that rifle over an AK.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit go outside

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what do you think of the chinese type 63 ak/sks hybrid thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Resident Wumbologist

        I haven't seen or messed with any in person and I don't think any exist in the US outside of museums or government reference collections.

        It still uses a longer barrel with folding bayonet which is not stellar, but at least it went to detachable magazines and is select fire which makes it far more useful.
        From what I understand it uses a more AK bolt and the design was kind of half baked. It either had build quality, service life or reliability problems which led to China sticking with mostly regular SKS rifles and AKs until they switched over to the 81. The 63s that were made all got dumped as free military aid to countries and paramilitary forces that China was friendly with.

        There's also a misconception that they made millions of the things. They really didn't. That's based off looking at serial numbers and estimating that if you have rifle #4,005,788 that at least that many have been made. In fact the Chinese serialize firearms in blocks adding 1millon every year, meaning something like that rifle would have been the 5,788th one made in the 5th year of production for that model from that factory.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >In any case I think the SKS as a military rifle was a mistake. They really weren't thinking enough about what utilizing an intermediate caliber allowed them to do, and by the time they did they had millions of neither-fish-nor-fowl "carbines" that were too long to be true carbines, too short rage and underpowered for a DMR role and gimped by a fixed 10rd magazine.

      It wasn't a mistake, the Soviets designed the SKS for two main reasons: Increased accuracy and range, and as a hedge against the possible failure of the AK, which was still experimental. The former proved to be superfluous...for the Soviets, however, the Chinese made good use of it with guerilla units that had no serious expectation of resupply. (Stripper clips are lighter than magazines, fixed magazines can't be lost.) The latter proved to be correct for over a decade given that the initial stamping process wasn't perfected until the late 50's and milled AK's are more expensive than SKS's.

      That said, I'm surprised there was no serious attempt to retrofit the SKS with detachable magazines and full auto. With the millions made it would make a pretty decent substitute standard rifle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >That said, I'm surprised there was no serious attempt to retrofit the SKS with detachable magazines and full auto. With the millions made it would make a pretty decent substitute standard rifle.
        ??? There has been and there are many countries and non-state actors which do this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Really? I've only ever seen it done commercially. Link?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have a link but I can tell you with absolute certainty that SKS with 30 round detachable magazines are in use by armed forces in Eritrea and Somaliland, and in use by police forces in Bangladesh. I have seen them.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re very nice rifles, underrated for what they are due to boomer perception of them being beta peasant versions of the ak lacking detachable mags and them being so cheap that theactual quality and utility of them was under appreciated.the long barrel and smooth action of the sks pushes the 7.62x39 harder than anything else and gives a performance level somewhere between that of a assault rifle and a battle rifle although admittedly closer to an assault rifle. It’s interesting to think if simonov had designed the sks to take detachable mags how much more of a lifespan these carbines would have had into the modern day. Though with the modifications available these things are still popping up on battlefields across the globe in the hands of poorfag factions

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both have pros and cons. Aks lay out superior firepower and are easier to get running again when they get jammed up with debris. Sks's are more accurate. Can continue to when magazines get depleted, aiding hit and run tactics.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >20" 7.62x39
    Even more of a meme than 20" 5.56.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      boolit only goes so fast anyway, the longer barrel gives you better sights and AK's are made for Full Auto and shooting from the hip!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AK's are made for Full Auto
        Yes. That's why they were so much better for USSR human wave tactics.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    True but one guy with an AK can keep your head down as his friend teleport behinds you
    >nothing personal kid.jpg

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