I hate to say it but I think we can all now agree the Bongs make the best tanks in Europe.
I hate to say it but I think we can all now agree the Bongs make the best tanks in Europe.
I hate to say it but I think we can all now agree the Bongs make the best tanks in Europe.
as we all know the best tank is the one that is getting no use.
Well, duh!
>Armatard reverting to shill threads
I hate it go away.
Leclerc then
>That tracker filename
Anon
so the leclerc?
ridiculous
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Challenger has never killed an Abrams. Abrams has killed a Challenger. The British will never recover.
>Abrams has killed a Challenger
Never heard of a friendly fire incident between Abrams & Challenger
A Challenger 2 killed another Challenger 2 in Basra and there has been several cases of Abrams killing other Abrams but don't think any crew died in them blue on blue incidents unlike the Challenger 2 incident
Well it wasn't so friendly I'm afraid.
>rifled gun
lmao no
Please understand, Britain is just a small family nation.
Wait until next week when the Ukrainians drive these down some heavily mined road and get wasted by artillery and Ka-52s.
Hoping the Russians caputer one of each. Might get us some 1v1s
>zero reported Chally losses so far
Leopardsisters.... hold me
They're using their shit disposable gear first. When Ukraine takes the gloves off the Chally Wallys will roll.
UNKILLABLE
>UNKILLABLE
UNKILLABLE
>UNKILLABLE
Much like Russian heaps Challengers also seem to throw turrets.
>Doesn't participate in war
>Wins
Feels good to be from the Norf.
>piece of shit that offers no advantage over an Abrams or Leopard while being fatter and slower
Kino…
Chally 3 is an Anglo-German lovechild
There is no evidence of that so far, but I hope you're right. Let's see it.
The best tank would have:
>American armor
>German gun
>Brit designed crew space
>Japanese suspension
>Brit troony
>Stylized by Koreans
>American + German electronics
>Brit troony
no thanks
They make the best trannies in the world, anon. Most high performance machines have a British troony underneath them.
I've heard that Brazil has the most experience producing them
Idk about that, more like they mass produce torque converters, which everyone knows are for twinks. Japan produces reliable trannies, to be sure, and they tend to be more compact and cuter. Much like everything from America, their trannies are loud and angry. It's the bongs who've got their trannies in every race car by sheer performance, you know?
>Most high performance machines have a British troony underneath them
Wish I had a british troony underneath me right now
God I'd frick Finn hard
Finn is still claiming to be cis. He's either a dinosaur egg or is the most cis man on the planet.
oh my
>crewed by midgets
Unironically, why isn't this more of a thing? Surely there's been military applications that would be best handled by little people.
As a kid I wanted to be a pilot. Turned out I was too tall for that because pilots are preferred shorter ( Tom Cruise is unironically the perfect example). So some military applications are already handled depending on your genetics. Midgets however are too much of a rarity. Can't base your military concepts on exotics. It's not sustainable.
you just described a japanese license bulilt Abrams
Oh, frick. Is it good? Please tell me that it's awesome.
Fair enough, I suppose. Being told I was too tall to be a pilot crushed me so fricking hard as a teenager. Unironically worse than any breakup since.
I'll soar one day.
>American armor
They literally use British armour.
They used too. The Americans dropped it for a better in house design
Id say the leclerc is better on the grounds that it has seen even less combat than the challenger 2
That's not the AMX-10RC, bongbro
Frogbros why isn't the Leclerc in Ukraine
Too few units produced, and production of Leclercs, or any tank for that matter, has been haled for decades and will only resume once the replacement gets approved. So we're just living on our current stock, which isn't that much, really. It's indeed shameful we can't do more for Ukraine on that front, but really, if we want to keep our NATO-compliant forces, there's not much we can do. Leo2 is honestly the one Ukraine needs simply due to its sheer numbers and thus easier logistics.
I hope we can redeem ourselves through some Mirage-2000 donations if/once the deal is made to send Ukraine western planes. Most of them would soon be out of commission, better send them over there. I heard from people living near airbases that there's a suspiciously high numbers of Mirage-2000 flights these days, something that barely ever happened anymore. Hopefully it's not just for training Ukrainian pilots on a plane model they won't ever use, that would be moronic, but then again I guess one can train for NATO tactics on any plane.
Mirage would be a terrible idea. 2000 RDM have no BVR capabilities and we cannot possibly give -5 as we need them for air defense.
How good would a Franco-British tank be?
Dumbass here.
Is the Leclerc not good?
Its autoloading turret sure as frick is better engineered than Russian's crap.
It's better than the challenger, but that's not saying much.
Not a shock. Challenger was always a compromise of moronic politicians.
MBT-80 was meant to give Britain our modern MBT that was on par with Leopard 2s, Abrams and so forth but the politicians decried it as too expensive and instead we got the mishmash shit tip that was Challenger 1.
MBT-80 was basically going to be a diesel powered M1 Abrams with a 120mm Rifled gun. The fact we didn't actually make it and instead got an uparmoured Chieftain derivative is telling of how fricked British procurement is in general. Same reason as the SA80.
True.
T-90 is generly agreed the best tank overall in a real war zone
>I dont want to say it but I think we can all now agree warriortard make the worst false flag threads on /k/.
yeah
Britain make some of the best tanks and pioneer the best of armoured technology, but they haven't the money to make a lot of them.
It's an amazing expression of modern Britain.
Nonsense. Our procured tanks have been nothing but compromises since the Centurion. Even the Chieftain had massive issues because the morons in office decided that it was smarter to follow NATO multi-fuel requirements than just accept it had to run on diesel, causing the engine to be a colossally unreliable piece of shit and the same as the transmission as a result.
Britain's planning and design is absolute top notch. Our procurement and politicians are the biggest homosexuals in the world as proven by every program since.
It still continues today with garbage like Scout SV being completely unusable, the QE class carriers that prohibited us buying the better variant of the F-35, the Challenger 2 upgrade program thats just throwing money into Rheinmetalls pocket for no real gain over a new tank, the constant flipflopping on Boxer rather than just getting BAE to domestically produce an improved SuperAV and so forth
Fuel requirements have nothing to do with transmission reliability which is a design choice. Running on aircraft fuels is also not an issue.
There is no excuse for poor engine reliability.