I found this picture of one of my ancestors who fought in the Civil War, can anyone identify the kind of revolver he’s holding?
I found this picture of one of my ancestors who fought in the Civil War, can anyone identify the kind of revolver hes holding?
looks lie a colt 1849 pocket model
Thanks anon
South, he was from modern day West Virginia but the southern part of the state that was mostly loyal to the Confederacy
in that case, it's probably a knockoff
Unlikely. If it is a knock off it's more likely to be one from the North like Manhattan or Metropolitan arms than Confederate made.
I want to point out that OP did not say he had the fricking gun. He said he found a picture. I'm not saying the homosexual has an unobtainium Texan confederate revolver.
I don’t have the revolver but I do have a pair of NCO swords from two of my Confederate ancestors and both of them have “US” stamped on them. I think a lot of Confederate units just seized federal arms depots in their respective states and armed themselves with federally made/issued weaponry. Like if there was a civil war today and the rebels just raided their local National Guard armories.
This is one of the big problems with Civil War artifacts, because the supply issues with the Rebels made home-made goods stamped CSA very few and far between. A lot of troops used Union gear (minus generally the blue uniforms) for the duration of the war. So people can find actual Civil War weapons or buckles stamped US and think it's just Union gear. When in truth it may have been used by southern troops. You just can't know unless there's papers, photos, or etchings on the back. Or it's found in the right cache/right battlefield locale.
I'm not even American but have several civil war items. the vast bulk of CSA weapons were imported and marked.
Yes, but how is the calculation different it it's a photographer's prop? why would the photographer be more likely to have a rare gun rather than a much more common one?
Didn’t most people pose with their own guns in photographs as a flex? In a time when people had very few material possessions beyond farmland and a few homemade clothes it was a status symbol to be able to own your own gun
Not most people, no; soldiers were mostly poor af and unlikely to own revolvers.
Plenty of pictures of soldiers with completely inappropriate weapons and gear that were plainly borrowed from somewhere. There's little documentation to prove which were provided by the photographer, and which might've been borrowed from elsewhere, but there's definitely far more revolvers photographed in the hands of men who wouldn't have been issued them than can be explained by personal ownership. As you say, it would've been a status symbol, precisely because most people didn't have them.
But if you prefer to suppose that it was his ancestor's own revolver -- again, what's the significance of that, vs. if it was his own revolver and remained in the family to the present? Either way, his ancestor is far more likely to have owned a Colt than any of the southern copies.
Fair enough. Funny how posing with guns is still a flex in certain social circles though
Bloody Bill Anderson had a Manhattan revolver in his death photo
Yeah but he was from one of the few regions of the confederacy that actually manufactured new firearms
So you come from a long line of noguns homosexuals?
Nope, they were selling like hot cakes for well over a decade before the war across the whole US. It was Colt`s most popular percussion revolver before the ACW, hundreds of thousands were made.
Based dubs
Also any homosexual on here that doesn't have any ancestors dating back to the war don't get a say in it
What if my ancestors were here when the state was accepted into the country?
>Dad's family emigrated in 1790
>Mom's emigrated during the last ice age
While I have no moral objections to slavery, I support the Union because the increased centralization and birth of an American identity in the aftermath of the war paved the way for the ascent of the US to great power status.
Similar.
>Mom's family came in the 1740s, second generation fought in the revolution.
>Father's family were French Huguenot missionaries that came with the Louisiana Purchase.
>aftermath of the war paved the way for the ascent of the US to great power status
It wasn't worth selling our nation's soul.
And, before anyone accuses me of being migrant trash.
>Hessian who died in 1783 on dad's side
>Border reivers in the 1660s
>It wasn't worth selling our nation's soul
That's the thing, we had no soul. We were just a loose collection of polities originally set up by European colonial powers to generate money, either by slaves on plantations or immigrants in factories. The civil war, and the westward expansion it helped propel through waves of hopeful northerners and disillusioned southerners, are exactly the traumatic, formative events which turn a mere state into a real nation. And I hold no ill will towards the Confederates either, for growth is meaningless without struggle.
beaners dont count
Slavery just doesnt make sense even on an economic level. You are taking an entire segment of the population and making them unable to participate in the economy by giving them no purchasing power.
>You are taking an entire segment of the population and making them unable to participate in the economy by giving them no purchasing power.
They are participating in the economy buy picking millions of dollars of cash crops every year in exchange for bread and cheaply built housing. Sounds pretty financially sound to me.
>Cash crops
Have fun with that banana republic, homosexual.
Almost all of mine were here pre-founding, late 1600s to early 1700s except. The only ones who weren't are a single Hessian mercenary who stayed after the war and my paternal grandma & great-grandfather. They arrived just after WW1 when she was a baby. She and her dad were ethnic Finns and he was a pro-Romanov monarchist. Which I'm not sure how many Finns were monarchists in that era.
I’m a South Carolinian that uses ancestry.
I’m a direct descendant of quite a few civil war confederates.
My paternal 3x great grandfather served as a sgt. as did his two brothers. One died in chicamanga.
My 4x great grandpa on my moms side died in the battle of Chancellorsville.
Lot of other ones but don’t feel like digging it up. Pretty crazy how many people probably have relatives that flight and don’t know.
youve been replaced moron
t. juan carlos but in two generations your people will be light skinned and voting republican so I’m not worried
no they wont, brown native "aztecs" make up the majority of the mexican population. The only thing that will happen is that the USA will look like a mix between Mexico and Brazil, in their voting patterns and demogrpahics.
>no they wont, brown native "aztecs" make up the majority of the mexican population
About 30-40% of Mexicans look like pic related and the rest will intermarry with whites and be bred into whiteness within a couple generations max. Plus Mexicans hate gays and blacks so they’re cool by me.
wishful thinking. When Mexico was ran by the Spanish descendants, it was a much nicer place, better morals, better laws, belief in Christian values (whether you dislike them or not), it's now that these people who were running around in loincloths killing each other with sticks and stones and LITERALLY beating children to death to bring rain just 400 years ago... have turned into the absolute majority and have taken positions of power in politics, that Mexico has become an immense shithole.
You're either a beaner yourself who has wishful thinking, or a coping whitey who can't use pattern recognition to come to realistic conclusions. Yes, there are white Mexicans, but they're not a majority and many of them are not racially aware, just a few. Their allegiance is to the Raza and despite having blonde hair and blue eyes they consider themselves Aztec warriors and will interbreed with savages.
But lets forget race here, hispanics OVERWHELMINGLY vote Democrat, and that's a fact. Look at all their nations, they're socialists at heart who WANT to be ran like cattle by their Governments. It seems to be an overwhelming mongoloid trait. Russians, Spics, and Asians who all have mongoloid genetics love communism and socialism.
>spics OVERWHELMINGLY vote Democrat
I didn’t read the rest of your novel but over a third of hispanics vote republican now and that’s gonna increase as progressives push culture war shit on a socially conservative demographic. Go down to home depot and ask the guys hanging out in the parking lot what they think about drag queen story hour
Pic rel
hmmm, doubt.
>However many greats Grandpa fought for the Confederacy
>Got his leg blown off in the war of Northern Aggression and returned home to run his hardware store with his son and now freed slave (thanks alot Lincoln)
I got the last laugh for him though, because I'm dicking down a Yankee girl whose however many greats grandpappy fought for Pennsylvania.
Mean to clarify, he had a slave who he used at the hardware store. Sometimes his son would help out too, not that the son was a slave.
Same, several direct ancestors fought for the Confederacy and my gf’s ancestors fought for the Union and now she lets me frick her in the ass
My great great grandfather was a field medic. At least thats what my poppop said, he fought for the confederacy
depends on which side you ask. I was born in a tribe that fought for the confederacy. but I'm also related to another tribe and couple of germans and blue blood ancestors that fought for the union. my father's father would dress up as a union soilder up until a couple years ago. and my mother's father dressed up a confederate corporal for a picture. he still has in his office, if I ever visit him again, I try to take a picture of it
My family is from georgia but im related to one of grant's brothers, so he is my greatx4 uncle. The ancient fricks who have the geneology book b***h and moan about him every family get together kek. I was born in chicago but my moms is cool so she put a jar of red georgia dirt under the bed so im 'born on georgia soil'. Bought some whiskey flavoured condoms when i was on loch ness that fell off and made my kid.
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My family was here since pre-revolution but I don't know which side they fought for because they changed states like every other generation. Probably the north though
I'm a direct descendant of General Gates.
Sorry about my ancestor screwing over Benedict Arnold and thus causing him to switch sides
I had family on both sides of the war, but I sympathize with the Southern cause and I despise the federal government.
>Loses the fricking war
This is what yankees fought for, congrats?
No, thats what you fought for when you fought for the right to import more Black folk. Even if you had won Black folk still would've been freed/emancipated (much later) but this time there would be way more. Daily reminder that they would've all been sent back if you morons didn't murder Lincoln.
And now the old southern stock is being replaced by a mob of Black folk and lib transplants. And you its the least developed and lowest iq part of the country. Sad!
>Daily reminder that they would've all been sent back if you morons didn't murder Lincoln.
Lincoln abandoned that plan in 1862 moron, yanks fought to free the slaves and then they fought to give them the right to riot and destroy your own cities. Make sure to thank your great x4 grandad next time you get mugged
Go larp somewhere else homosexual
Don't put it in your pocket, it's your lucky revolver. Otherwise it will mix with your other guns and become just a revolver. Which it is.
Holy shit
/k/ is too autistic for it's own good
Weaponized autism.
>/k/ is too autistic for it's own good
Actually a simple identification of a well known gun. Apparently this is autistic? Onwards to ideocracy hey?
What side did he fight for?
>what business is it of yours where he's from… friendo?
You don't have to answer, just curious
What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
I can't give out no information
Duloc
I was in the army of Northern Virginia, Cogburn, and I don't have to hang my head when I say it
Did photographers used to get shot a lot?
No. Photographers had a unique free passage through. Photographs were relatively new but everyone sort of realized there was intrinsic value in having a photo taken.
Actual photo of OP
Came to post his, underrated
my first thought too
Frickin
My ancestor served in the Mississippi 69th Twink Battalion and died at the battle of Shiloh.
>twink 69
pics or gtfo
Hoo boy
p-pupper???
In a fight, right?
ofc
He's a good gun owning southern boy
>Late war Arisaka
Anime was a mistake.
I remember this guy. He said he had childhood cancer that made him skip puberty and then took estrogen
Yeah mentally ill people tend to say crazy stuff like that
Here ya go
Mine served in the Ohio 6th Cryptid Wranglers. He carried a Wincester repeater and herded packs of chupacabras into the trenches of Vicksburg.
His name didn't happen to be John, Sam, or Dean, did it?
Samuel Dean Johnson III
Is this your ancestor? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxWQRAleGqY
OP gonna be on the 23 dollar bill
I wish I knew anything about my ancestors from that time period.
The only thing I have been able to find about them is from a book on surnames (sort of like a census), written by an Austrian man, about the region that would become Czechoslovakia.
In the book, he is going through the list of surnames, how many are in the family, and their rough location (towns, villages, or distances to each from where they are).
He gets to my family's surname and there's a footnote, along with a bunch of other surnames that are phonetically similar.
There's a little rant that when translated turns out to be him complaining very strongly about how all of these people had the same phonetic surname, lived in roughly the same region, but said they were not related to the other people with the same phonetic surname.
Apparently every time he asked someone, they'd say "No, it sounds the same but it's spelled different. How do those other people spell their name? No, you see, mine has this extra letter."
He was so convinced they were all just fricking with him that he devoted half a page to complain about it and basically call all my theoretical forebears fricking buttholes.
could be based ancestors. or naming conventions being in flux in the region too.
picrel - finnish origin myth
When did they come to x country?
I mean if you really want to know that badly you can pay the israelites at 23andme or the Mormons at Ancestry and they'll link it up. I always thought my dad's side of the family was Irish. Nope, 97% bongs from the Greater London Are for centuries, then mover to Ireland to be administrators for English rule before coming here in the early 1700s.
>Jews at 23andme or the Mormons at Ancestry
I thought both (or at least 23andme) were now owned by the Chinese?
I'm Javier Bardem and I'm gay.
GAS STATION PROPRIETOR
Where do you want me to put it?
I got bored and decided to colourize your pic by hand
very based of you
its all repros.
Are you as ugly as your ancestor?
He related to Meshack Browning? Looks a little like a family ancestor.
You can get a repro for like 350 of the same gun with the same barrel length it seems from Uberti.
So if you wanna larp.
Does colt still make reproductions of their older/historic models like this or are all the reproductions from other manufacturers?
Picture of my rich relative, smug in the knowledge you poor white trash are fighting of Black folk.
>rich relative
Him fricking a negress in the backshed and then generations of Blackfication doesn't make you white, Jamal JEFFERSON.
>fighting of Black folk.
wanna try that again in english jose?
Hit me up if you inherited his dick sucking lips
What’s wrong with his eyes?
yeah looks like that's a peace pipe
After the photo was taken, did he tell the photographer "Would you hold still, please, sir?"
Looks like a 'police' model from the shorter barrel length.
It's weird that this guy could be alive today. It would be interesting to track him down and ask him about it
i don't know if you know what alive means
He was born in 1824