Yes, it's very useful when using shitty underpowered steelcase in a budget rifle. The steel had less natural lubricity than brass and the low pressure caused the BCG to just ever-so-slightly come back far enough to pick up the next round, which ended in the bolt slowing to a stop just before it went fully into battery.
Any AR using 5.56 brass ammo with a chrome/DLC/NiB/TiN BCG (as Stoner intended) CANNOT have the malfunction that Rittenhouse had. My AR is physically incapable of not going into battery with spring pressure even if I ride the charging handle as gently as humanly possible. This is after 1000+ rounds without cleaning.
He was using fiochi brass case 55 grain .223.
The failure to fully enter battery was caused by skate Black person pulling on the magazine with all his weight and momentum while taking a round through the aorta.
I'm almost certain he specified it was Wolf .223. I also doubt that specific failure could be caused by a mag malfunction. I don't see any way the round only 'almost' went into battery with a mag malfunction. Either way, a good BCG and better gas pressure would have solved the problem.
Nope, it was actually Aguila .223 according to the testimony of one of the investigators at the trial, not fiochi, I misremembered.
I have no doubt low pressure .223 ammo plus someone pulling forward on the magazine with all their ability and momentum would induce enough drag to cause the bolt to not go fully into battery.
But, you are right, hotter ammo or a more efficient BCG and gas system probably would have prevented it all together.
He was using fiochi brass case 55 grain .223.
The failure to fully enter battery was caused by skate Black person pulling on the magazine with all his weight and momentum while taking a round through the aorta.
>lets completely ignore the elephant in the room
10 months ago
Anonymous
The frick you talking about, Black person? You think he pulled the charging handle?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>let's completely ignore what actually happened that night so I can b***h about my pet peeve which had nothing to do with it instead
>Any AR using 5.56 brass ammo with a chrome/DLC/NiB/TiN BCG (as Stoner intended)
You know that the AR-15 had an order of magnitude more first round failures to feed than the M14 did in just regular testing. It was from the magazines and the stronger and very fragile original extractor spring, both from "stoner approved" engineering. The extractor spring is more of a variable than the Black person tier israelitelry flashy coatings you're talking about. Go put a sprinco 5 coil spring, black insert, and #006 o ring in your extractor and let me know if you can even manually close it with your thumb against the BCG cutout using your shiny BCG. Go and try to find a single retro AR-15 clone or even one made out of "entirely" original parts and you will not be able to find a single example of the original higher strength extractor because they all would broke in a few thousand rounds or less and were replaced in 1971 with the 4 coil spring and white insert, etc.
That means that there is not a single clone or "original parts" gun out there that replicates the Stoner's original AR-15s. At Springfield Armory's museum I was able to get S/N's 6, 11, 10, and 22 inspected and even their springs are "wrong" even though they are original springs, and that's because all of them are broken and short from the military trials they went through. >inb4 muh reddit-adjacent historian says the tests were rigged
The tests and data collection were never rigged. The only bias that existed was of commentary on the M14 which included the WW2/Korea veterans of the Infantry Board as stated by the Inspector General's investigation (inb4 they're in on it too).
cont.
Here is #10's broken spring and extractor. This is a stronger spring than anyone has in any of their AR-15s. Comparing bullshit commercial springs on the market today versus what they had back then is a false equivalence made possible by the gaping ignornace of cloners and historians about how these guns work and the design changes from back then. I've asked countless cloners and retro guys and none of them have the original spring. They are all to pre-occupied with how their gun looks and if there's some peepee poopoo roll mark somewhere and often have never even taken apart their bolt, let alone care about its functional equivalence to the old guns.
because I changed my mind and think it's great that you'll be abused every day in an old folk's home before you eventually starve to death from neglect
>teaching new shooters >explicitly mention numerous times not to ride the bolt >THEY ALWAYS RIDE THE BOLT NO MATTER WHAT >just hit the FA and problem solved
People are dumb
Same thing worded differently: AR-15 is a bad design.
The ideal weapon is so easy to use that the dumbest idiot could use it even without any training.
>Pull it back and let go. >It's like a slingshot. Just bring it backwards and release your hand
I'm open to alternate suggestions.
Minimum: Explain in clear words what not to do and why not.
Decent: Demonstrate visually how to frick up.
Good: Explain how the weapon works and demonstrate how the bolt actually moves relative to the charging handle.
See
> just charging the ar again won't work when the recoil springs are about to retire
Which is why HK use the heaviest buffer and the stiffiest buffer spring known to mankind
its a sniper button, it makes it so you always shoot the enemy in the head, you dont even need to keep your eyes open. Why do you think people are trying to ban these high tech dangerous weapons.
whats funny is the guy who made the models for the guns made the models for Action Quake and Navy Seals as well but i think the animator was different for every game because the animations in Navy Seals aren't moronic
it activates the heatseeking bullet functionality in an ar-15, since it was made during the vietnam war it is calibrated for smaller bodies, which makes it lock in children most of the time. laws have tried to remove the heatseeking functionality or at least make it lock into adult sized bodies but the gun lobby has refused. this is why the ar-15 is so effective in school shootings
Yes, hence the name AR-15 which stands for "Assault Rifle 15" in that its an assault weapon tailor made for killing those 15 and below due to the heatseeking bullet functionality being tailroed to smaller bodies, hence the 15.
It's obviously the sniper button. Pressing it gives you greater accuracy for the next shot by channeling the power of the Enfield rifle, at the cost of needing to cycle the bolt when you fire. Always push the sniper button before making long-range shots, it can make all the difference
Anon... I'm sorry you don't own guns, but it's really no excuse. It's called a forward assist for a reason. You hit it to assist the bullet's forward travel, so it flies farther/hits harder.
The AR originally didn't have the forward assist.
It was insisted upon by the Army, who noticed that there was no way to tap the bolt forward if it failed to close all the way.
The Air Force thought the forward assist was ridiculous and unnecessary. But what did they know, they had just been using them for years by that point.
The Navy and Marines did not care, but since way more of the guns were going to the Army than to the Air Force, the forward assist became the de facto standard.
I'd say can we stop having these threads now, but tbh given the quality of this board lately the thread you killed probably wasn't worth much.
Yeah air force security forces are the guys to listen to about what the military needs in arms development.... By the way the Marines were not in charge of the M16's development, so they didn't care about anything as long as it didn't frick anything up.
I had a forward assist break and ultrafrick my gun, bolt was stuck in battery until I got home and managed to move the broken pawl out of the FA cuts in the carrier with a magnet. I keep a decently powerful magnet on a stendo sitck in my kit now.
>St. Kyle disagrees
Yes, it's very useful when using shitty underpowered steelcase in a budget rifle. The steel had less natural lubricity than brass and the low pressure caused the BCG to just ever-so-slightly come back far enough to pick up the next round, which ended in the bolt slowing to a stop just before it went fully into battery.
Any AR using 5.56 brass ammo with a chrome/DLC/NiB/TiN BCG (as Stoner intended) CANNOT have the malfunction that Rittenhouse had. My AR is physically incapable of not going into battery with spring pressure even if I ride the charging handle as gently as humanly possible. This is after 1000+ rounds without cleaning.
I put a Tubbs spring in mine recently, that shit won’t stop for nothing.
He was using fiochi brass case 55 grain .223.
The failure to fully enter battery was caused by skate Black person pulling on the magazine with all his weight and momentum while taking a round through the aorta.
I'm almost certain he specified it was Wolf .223. I also doubt that specific failure could be caused by a mag malfunction. I don't see any way the round only 'almost' went into battery with a mag malfunction. Either way, a good BCG and better gas pressure would have solved the problem.
Nope, it was actually Aguila .223 according to the testimony of one of the investigators at the trial, not fiochi, I misremembered.
I have no doubt low pressure .223 ammo plus someone pulling forward on the magazine with all their ability and momentum would induce enough drag to cause the bolt to not go fully into battery.
But, you are right, hotter ammo or a more efficient BCG and gas system probably would have prevented it all together.
>dirty mexican ammo for self defense
never ever
>lets completely ignore the elephant in the room
The frick you talking about, Black person? You think he pulled the charging handle?
>let's completely ignore what actually happened that night so I can b***h about my pet peeve which had nothing to do with it instead
>Any AR using 5.56 brass ammo with a chrome/DLC/NiB/TiN BCG (as Stoner intended)
You know that the AR-15 had an order of magnitude more first round failures to feed than the M14 did in just regular testing. It was from the magazines and the stronger and very fragile original extractor spring, both from "stoner approved" engineering. The extractor spring is more of a variable than the Black person tier israelitelry flashy coatings you're talking about. Go put a sprinco 5 coil spring, black insert, and #006 o ring in your extractor and let me know if you can even manually close it with your thumb against the BCG cutout using your shiny BCG. Go and try to find a single retro AR-15 clone or even one made out of "entirely" original parts and you will not be able to find a single example of the original higher strength extractor because they all would broke in a few thousand rounds or less and were replaced in 1971 with the 4 coil spring and white insert, etc.
That means that there is not a single clone or "original parts" gun out there that replicates the Stoner's original AR-15s. At Springfield Armory's museum I was able to get S/N's 6, 11, 10, and 22 inspected and even their springs are "wrong" even though they are original springs, and that's because all of them are broken and short from the military trials they went through.
>inb4 muh reddit-adjacent historian says the tests were rigged
The tests and data collection were never rigged. The only bias that existed was of commentary on the M14 which included the WW2/Korea veterans of the Infantry Board as stated by the Inspector General's investigation (inb4 they're in on it too).
cont.
Here is #10's broken spring and extractor. This is a stronger spring than anyone has in any of their AR-15s. Comparing bullshit commercial springs on the market today versus what they had back then is a false equivalence made possible by the gaping ignornace of cloners and historians about how these guns work and the design changes from back then. I've asked countless cloners and retro guys and none of them have the original spring. They are all to pre-occupied with how their gun looks and if there's some peepee poopoo roll mark somewhere and often have never even taken apart their bolt, let alone care about its functional equivalence to the old guns.
>i have exactly one anecdote and i will use it over and over because i like it
Turns out not many gunfights are filmed dumbfrick.
>I think it makes jams more with no evidence
>st. kyle
you and your pedo friends will all die slowly.
Life is dying slowly.
You will die quick.
even better.
guess how I can tell you're ESL
because I changed my mind and think it's great that you'll be abused every day in an old folk's home before you eventually starve to death from neglect
>T. Felon
This. Based St. Kyle of Kenosha, Killer of Kommunists, Founder of our Order.
It only worsens jams if you're an idiot and don't try to cycle the action before banging on the plunger.
Cycling the action on most all failure to feeds will cause a double feed that the FA won't cause, though.
>teaching new shooters
>explicitly mention numerous times not to ride the bolt
>THEY ALWAYS RIDE THE BOLT NO MATTER WHAT
>just hit the FA and problem solved
People are dumb
What does “ride the bolt” even mean? Honest question
I think a better phrase would be "not letting go of the charging handle"
We get it, you're newgunz.
Get used to the lingo of your new hobby.
It'll make sense as you shoot more.
How about you cut down on the moron talk?
Gets into new hobby, asks questions. Demands that everyone changes their terminology and says they're morons.
Thanks for sharing that Anon! I actually learned something new.
>moron talk
I’ve never heard someone use that term, but I have enough function brain cells to know what it means. You’re such a fricking moron
I asked the question that second response is someone else. Now go have another mountain dew and calm down
You ever consider maybe changing up your routine, if it always leads up to the same failure?
>Pull it back and let go.
>It's like a slingshot. Just bring it backwards and release your hand
I'm open to alternate suggestions.
>People are dumb
This.
Same thing worded differently: AR-15 is a bad design.
The ideal weapon is so easy to use that the dumbest idiot could use it even without any training.
Minimum: Explain in clear words what not to do and why not.
Decent: Demonstrate visually how to frick up.
Good: Explain how the weapon works and demonstrate how the bolt actually moves relative to the charging handle.
See
Is that the thing that goes up?
The Full Spectrum forward assist videos should be required watching to post on /k/
>The forward assist was designed because the AR15 is a unreliable pos
>Charging handle nearly kilt rittenhouse
pick one
The T in SPORTS actually has cleared one single jam for me. I’m a unicorn I know.
>this gay never had to shoot an m16 older than him
Ngmi
Also just charging the ar again won't work when the recoil springs are about to retire
> just charging the ar again won't work when the recoil springs are about to retire
Which is why HK use the heaviest buffer and the stiffiest buffer spring known to mankind
I just dont use the buffer detent in my ar builds. They say it wears the bcg faster but i have never had a round go out of battery
its a sniper button, it makes it so you always shoot the enemy in the head, you dont even need to keep your eyes open. Why do you think people are trying to ban these high tech dangerous weapons.
frick you
Army did extensive testing that disproves this idea. Stop listening to people like in*****TV
Anyone still doubting or looking to learn should watch what this anon shared.
>worsening jams
Why are you using it during a malfunction?
how else would you reload the gun doofus
forgot pic
Honestly tried this the first time I picked up an AR.
Even when I was a complete noguns goober child, I always knew that looked fricking silly, and therefore must be wrong.
whats funny is the guy who made the models for the guns made the models for Action Quake and Navy Seals as well but i think the animator was different for every game because the animations in Navy Seals aren't moronic
just like starting a lawn mower
OP that's the charging handle you frickwad.
I've never used the FA on my assault rifle-15 but I'm not a high round count guy. Maybe 1 case a year.
Frick you homosexual. You copied my thread. Also I am defending the AR, you are just a b***h.
It's useful and I like.
Sometimes it's nice to have a button to push regardless.
it activates the heatseeking bullet functionality in an ar-15, since it was made during the vietnam war it is calibrated for smaller bodies, which makes it lock in children most of the time. laws have tried to remove the heatseeking functionality or at least make it lock into adult sized bodies but the gun lobby has refused. this is why the ar-15 is so effective in school shootings
Yes, hence the name AR-15 which stands for "Assault Rifle 15" in that its an assault weapon tailor made for killing those 15 and below due to the heatseeking bullet functionality being tailroed to smaller bodies, hence the 15.
It's obviously the sniper button. Pressing it gives you greater accuracy for the next shot by channeling the power of the Enfield rifle, at the cost of needing to cycle the bolt when you fire. Always push the sniper button before making long-range shots, it can make all the difference
making know-it-alls who are addicted to YouTube videos about guns big mad is good enough for me.
Anon... I'm sorry you don't own guns, but it's really no excuse. It's called a forward assist for a reason. You hit it to assist the bullet's forward travel, so it flies farther/hits harder.
replace it
shieeeet does this actually work??
>Gas port this close to the face
WHY
well it's redirecting gas that would normally be going directly into your face from the charging handle
It makes homosexuals seethe.
The AR originally didn't have the forward assist.
It was insisted upon by the Army, who noticed that there was no way to tap the bolt forward if it failed to close all the way.
The Air Force thought the forward assist was ridiculous and unnecessary. But what did they know, they had just been using them for years by that point.
The Navy and Marines did not care, but since way more of the guns were going to the Army than to the Air Force, the forward assist became the de facto standard.
I'd say can we stop having these threads now, but tbh given the quality of this board lately the thread you killed probably wasn't worth much.
Yeah air force security forces are the guys to listen to about what the military needs in arms development.... By the way the Marines were not in charge of the M16's development, so they didn't care about anything as long as it didn't frick anything up.
I had a forward assist break and ultrafrick my gun, bolt was stuck in battery until I got home and managed to move the broken pawl out of the FA cuts in the carrier with a magnet. I keep a decently powerful magnet on a stendo sitck in my kit now.
they're not hard to replace, you just have to knock the one pin out
It's the button I push to filter reddit.
it helps to push powder residue into the unchromed chamber
CS 1.6 taught me that you pull on it after you insert a new mag
I have shot firearms for decades
I still have no idea what a forward assist does
Pressing it repeatedly charges the bullet up, everyone knows that.
Thank you
Thank you
It pushes the bolt forward if it doesn’t go all the way into battery
I hate to bump this with my post, but do we honestly have to do this moronation again?
>let the bolt slam home
>CLACK
>ride the bolt home
>no clack
>press button
>weapon is now in battery