I dont know if im gonna be able to pass this bullshit requirement to carry. If I lived 45 mins away id get one with none of this shit frick NJ
24 at 7 yards
14 at 10 yards
6 at 15 yards
6 at 25 yards
You need an 80% to pass
I dont know if im gonna be able to pass this bullshit requirement to carry.
lol, NJ makes you take a shooting competency test? I don't even practice with my CCW
yep
Even Texas has one, although I didn't have to take it since I was former military.
pa doesnt have one most states dont
PA also let’s you carry when drunk and in any type of bar or restaurant. PA is one of the most fun friendly states.
pa is like 30 mins from nj let that sink in. They also ended new Hampshire reciprocity
plenty of land to shoot on too if you like skin walkers
Yeesh. Judging by how the milgays I've seen at the range shoot, they should have made you take the test twice.
>he doesnt know Texas has unlicensed carry
I too am ordinary cowboy from Texas oblast and even I know that
Constitutional carry has some serious downsides. For example "no weapons" signs that don't site 30.06 are legally binding for constitutional carriers while they don't apply to licensed carriers at all. And of course you don't have to get a background check when buying weapons if you have a CHL.
At least in Texas constitutional carry is kind of a meme and you should still get a CHL.
Another benefit of having a CHL is that you can carry in federally designated "Gun Free Zones" like schools and college campuses (although obviously this doesn't apply to federal buildings like the post office).
Constitutional carry is in Texas now, although the test was always ez af to pass.
Nevada does
3 aimed 2 hand
3 aimed 1 hand
3 aimed off habd
3 low 2, 1h, 1oh
Its at 150 , 10, and 5 yard
Its pass or fail they dont report numbers
150? or was that a typo and you meant 15?
I never said they were, just that they're generally not incompetent. Did you get a good workout moving those goal posts?
Yes its a typo its 15 yards.
I'm sure a majority of the state's police force couldn't pass those requirements.
Agreed 100%
You know the really fricked up thing? This is the absolute truth.
I have full faith and confidence that 90% of my police force will be completely fricked in an actual dynamic scenario with a highly motivated individual.
Man frick the pacer test
Forget just individuals just watch "Die Hard with a Vengeance" and you can see the havoc a relatively small number of personnel can accomplish with the right planning and execution. Not sure if you could carry out the robbery of the Federal Reserve Bank but the israeliteelry District in NYC is definitely in play.
lmao, who the frick would rob the Federal Reserve Bank? it's not federal, there are no reserves, and it's not even a bank
They send cash there to be destroyed after it's run through it's life cycle.
So fail then sue. I'm sure the Supreme Court would agree with you that those requirements are an unconstitutional form of gatekeeping. After laughing at you of course, because those are piss easy requirements.
I’d be impressed if a third could do it. And it’s really not that hard
It's literally the police handgun proficiency test, we have that exact test in AZ that we do annually, bi-annually, or 4x a year depending on your department. Mine was 4x a year and 2 had to be accompanied by a 4 hour training session. Police are masters with their handguns, we win 98% of our shootings in the US and we're on the reactive end of OODA loop. That's fricking outstanding...
It's this same test, right?
So how many of you can actually hit a torso 12 times from 75 feet? The real meme is that casual gun owners can't actually hit shit. How many shootings do you guys get exceptional hits on vs how many the police get? I guarantee it's not even in the 50% range. You have no training.
how is this hard lol, literally anyone should be able to pass this with 100% rate after 500 rounds of practice and some dry fire.
Most gun owners actually could not, see OP for example. You have no training.
Bro you are on the wrong board to champion police competency
Doesn't mean he is wrong. A good argument could be made though that it isn't how great the cops are, but how bad their opponents are.
Hello cop anon, I too believe I may well be a master or nearly a master with my handgun(I say this unironically, I can make 100 yard shots standing unsupported with both an RMR and iron sights, can even do it with a Sig Mosquito .22lr--I'm actually good with handguns).
I'm just curious, how many rounds of ammo do you have for the police handgun qualification??
>I can make 100 yard shots standing unsupported with both an RMR and iron sights
That isn't mastery or even near mastery. If we're just talking about slow fire at a torso silhouette target, then by the end of my level 2 handgun class (~32 hours of instruction) every student out of like 20 was able to hit the steel at 135 yards standing unsupported with irons. By the end of the level 3 class (~40 hours) even the worst shooters were able to hit it within 3 shots. You don't master anything in 40 hours.
The police being incompetent is mostly /k/ cope. Yes, there's incompetent cops, but as you point out the overwhelming proportion of gunfights the police win shows that's they're generally not incompetent (at least in areas where police getting into gunfights is likely)
They "win" cause they are always wearing body armor. Short of a fatal shot to the head they are going to win every single time. It's not like criminals can just walk around openly sporting the latest in body armor without getting some serious police attention. Even the most low profile vest is going to stand out in a crowd.
Look how rarely a police officer is even struck (in vest or otherwise) and how often they accidentally shoot by standers. When you consider they're always reacting to someone starting the gunfight, they have a quite impressive record.
Okay, and if they're able to regularly win without collateral damage, how does that make them incompetent?
>and if they're able to regularly win without collateral damage, how does that make them incompetent?
pray you never have to be in the vicinity of the police when they need to use their guns in nyc lmao
>nyc
One of the most population dense areas in the world? Yeah and I'll bet 90% of CCs couldn't do any better.
I thought you said the police were ebin laser robots that don't frick up though lol
Of course they're going to win a gunfight when you have 15+ cops called in on a guy with a gun or a shooting as is the usual operating procedure for PDs. I'd actually be intrigued to know what the numbers are for 1 on 1 shootouts.
Look at who they fight 99% of the time. It's nogs who don't believe in using sights. They are fighting people who want to get away, not people who want to fight. The second they face any real opposition they die or fall back and regroup until there are dozens of them. Remember that vid related is called a "win" by cops
Pretty much this right here criminals want to get away from the cops and not engage them in a fire fight. Their was a day where that wasn't necessarily the case and gangs were happy to engage in a fire fight with the cops. Take a look at the Dillinger Gang he relished the opportunity to get into a gun fight. Criminals these days are soft and weak if they actually organized and engaged in open fighting cops wouldn't stand a chance.
I have mixed feelings on this. When I was a LEO we had to take a test like this every year, same for most armed security in same states.
I like the idea of constitutional carry so many people fail this it's laughable and disheartening as an American.
People see the mistakes LEOs with no training make and laugh but %95 of people would act like a fricking idiot if put in a defensive scenario. Cool CCW interactions make it to YouTube but in reality so many people frick up because they don't do an ounce of training.
Yeah that's bullshit they make you do that but it doesn't sound that hard. Just make all the 7 and 10 yard shots and then you just have to hit two more/.
Do you have to certify each gun or can you take a revolver once and do it on easy mode.
each gun
How big is the target and how long do you have to shoot each stage? If you've got the fundamentals down, those first two are pretty trivial if you're just trying to hit a man sized target, and even 15 yards isn't that bad if you have time to properly reset yourself between shots.
RTSP is using a different shooting format so I’m wondering if there is any rhyme or reason as why some do it at one set of distances with x amount of rounds and another does it their way.
No holster needed, all shooting from ready position. 50 rounds total (per firearm) 10 rounds at 3 yards 10 rounds at 5 10 rounds at 7 10 rounds at 10 10 rounds at 15 Pass with 80% or better
The statue doesn't specify what the test is. I was curious before I asked you since I grew up in Jersey before I left the hellhole, so all the law says is that you have to pass a shooting proficiency test administered by a cop or someone who's certified by the state to give the tests.
its a grey area now but the general concecus is that what op put is correct
Is it a man sized target? A 12 inch ring? A 2 inch bullseye? If it's not timed, I feel like I could pass that without any real issues and I wouldn't consider myself a marksman or anything, but it would greatly depend on how small of a target I needed to land the shots in.
I think they said fbi standard target
So that's 12 inches wide and about 20 inches tall, excluding the head section which you shouldn't be aiming for unless you're larping, so yea, if you're not under any time pressure, that's pretty simple as long as you don't let any stage anxiety of it being a test get to you.
thats the thing i dont shoot reg like that so i may get some anxiety which is bullshit cause 45 mins from all you have to do is paper work and your good to go.
Get some range time to warm up before if you can, and if you're really worried, go shoot a couple of times while trying to pass the test. Living in Jersey sucks, but the taxes are a much more pressing reason to move instead of the CCW test.
If you want to practice at home, you can also get one of those laser target systems that uses a snap cap style thing that slots into your actual gun. I use mine for when I want to just do 10/20 minutes of practice without going anywhere and not have to spend money on ammo. Can set it up in your living room and just use a very small target to simulate bigger distances if you do the math.
i live at home so i dont deal with the prop taxes and live in a rural area but yea this state does blow
I don't miss living there, but I do miss living on the East Coast to get a hoagie at Wawa, much less a proper sub from the White House.
wawa is only good if last option when coming home from ac
Beats the shit out of normal fast food options
true but people around here hold it in high regards
The option to always get reasonable food at any hour of the day instead of something that's soaked in grease is a luxury you don't miss until you are forced to go without it, it's 2AM, and the only things open are a Taco Bell and McDonalds. I also don't feel bad bastardizing a regular with pepperjack if it's a Wawa hoagie instead of one from a real shop.
fair enough
Not really. Wawa makes pretty solid hoagies fresh in front of you. You need to be a little careful about which one you want so you get something you are in the mood for. But they have quality ingredients and high standards. Rarely you get some newbie who is inexperienced and low on training, but most of the people who work the deli take it seriously and do better than average to an excellent job. Of course, it can vary location by location and shift by shift, but I've had excellent luck in my area. At least ten Wawa's around me and can't say I've had a bad hoagie from them in ten years. I like how I can customize my ingredients, employees have always been responsive to my feedback. I've paid more for worse hoagies from professional delis that were supposed to be specialized in it.
tl;dr -- Don't talk shit about a company that takes their food service seriously, provides solid quality, and bothers to train their people to do it right.
their qc and menu items have only gone up from when I was a kid. I didn't know what I lost until I EAS'd
they sell tacos now!
Lol you don’t know shit about wawa, they don’t bake their own bread anymore, it’s gone way down hill.
Their hoagies have become average, but their burger is weirdly amazing
>fbi standard target
Then it's easy, that target is the size of a billboard. My state has us doing timed triple taps on that target and everybody with any range time at all gets nearly perfect scores on the shorter distances, with enough buffer that they could miss every shot at range and still pass.
Honestly, if you can't hit a man sized target 80% of the time, wtf are you doing? Bro, shoot at least 500 rounds before you carry your gun around.
I've been thinking it was 80% per stage and not 80% combined which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay fricking easier anon. You can do it.
Not gonna lie I own guns I just dont love shooting, I go once in awhile but I dont enjoy shooting I just like knowing I can defend myself.
Spend a few times at the range then and you should be good to go. Maybe even take a class. Hitting the 7 and 10 just on target will rack you up enough.
>I just like knowing I can defend myself.
Being the gun will magically make you an action hero when needed, no training or general ability to hit the intended target required.
Is it timed?
If you're allowed to take your time and aim each shot, I feel like this shouldn't be that bad?
>need to bring gun with retention holster and an entire fricking case of ammo for a 40 hour class that will probably run you several hundred extra on top of the permit fees and gorillion bg checks/references they'll run on you
How is that even allowed?
capitalism and fudds
i'm sure it will be sued and struck down soon
these requirements are too high of a barrier to entry, they will be sued and lowered very soon
If you can't shoot, you shouldn't be carrying.
most states dont require that should those states take ccw away?
>should those states take ccw away?
No. They should up there game to keep guns out of the hands of spastic incel morons.
6 at 25 yards is very reasonable. Overall 80% is also very reasonable. we're talking about a fricking gun here, you fricking moron. Someone pulls one out on a street with even half a dozen bystanders, I hope to fricking God the brainlet can aim it instead of mag dumping the entire fricking street.
It may escape the notice of all you fricking morons in the thread, but New Jersey is a fricking urban environment with thousands of people crammed into every street, in their cars, in their apartments, houses, stores, cafes. Some spastic shithead blasting away at shadows is the very fricking last thing anyone needs, including every God damned one of you fricking homosexuals that claims to give a flying frick about MUH SEKUNT AMENMUNT RAHHTZ!!!!
There's a vastly higher standard that needs to be met when you're not living in Cowfrick, Nebraska and you're mag dumping at imaginary aliens after your water supply.
If you can't shoot, you forfeit your "RAHHTZ" to handle a firearm. You don't take it seriously enough to even be allowed in the same building with one.
u should prob leave this board u prob think 10 rounds are enough too right?
46 other states have ccw and are very populated pussy, and nj has very rural areas too moron
Black person you act like there aren't a multitude of fricking densely populated cities in states where you don't even need any training to carry
I can smell you from here, you disgusting Jersey scum.
t. Mainline Philadelphia suburb god who just bought a $2mil shack
First of all, you need to go back.
Second, the question was simply how many self defense shootouts happen at 25 yards. But hey glad it could serve as a platform for you to expose how much of a raging SRA homosexual you are. (If you even have a gun.)
Third, you are talking out of your ass in regards to NJ. I had the unfortunate experience of living in New Jersey for 2 years and traveled around the state quite a bit while I was there. Outside of the northeastern side by NYC (and some small pockets here and there like Atlantic City) the vast majority of the state is pretty rural and nicely spaced out.
Fourth, some shit head blasting at shadows or imagined aliens obviously isn't a self defense shooting. You probably don't want that kind of person to be accurate actually.
Fifth, frick ya mudda.
Lmao, funny how much /k/tards seethe the second anyone requires some level of competency and accuracy from a shooter. Really goes to show how many people on here just magdump twice a year at the range, or are just straight up nogunz.
it would be less gay if going through the hoops to even purchase firearms didn't take more than 4 months to be a approved by the lazy fricks in your local pd or worse the state pd. and then the permits to buy individual handguns expire in a short amount of time meaning firearms you actually want to buy may not be available and you settle for mediocrity. alongside with the magazine restrictions and the gay laws surrounding NFA items and general use firearms makes this whole a state a giant clusterfrick.
>tldr; go back tourist
Well the OP was strictly about the marksmanship test and if there's no time and you only have to hit a silhouette target, this is laughably easy. My quick mafs say if you only miss two or less on the 7 and 10 yard shots, you literally don't have to land a single one at 15 and 25 yards to pass.
Looks like my quick mafs was off. If you made every shot a 7 and 10 yards, you'd still need to make two shots out of the 15 and 25 yard shots.
I agree, turn around for these things is super gay
>t. IL good holder
>Took 100 days to get FOID card first time
>Missed out on a .308 CMP Garand because was waiting for second FOID after moving
the biggest gun homosexuals don't even shoot them because if they did they wouldn't care so much about having a stacatto
So you're in favor of firing 95% of NJ cops then, because they can't pass that test either.
>New Jersey is the only state with cities
go back, moron
Think of the children
how will they survive
>if you can't pass these arbitrary tests we'll strip you of your constitutional rights
How many self defense shootouts occur at 25 yards?
NJ doesnt care they do this to limit as many people as they can
What's the accuracy standard? B8? A-zone? C-zone?
dunno they just said fbi standard
>fbi standard
It's pretty lulz, not that hard of a standard to pass. It's not even a LARP either, watch this video.
He's a really good shooter but still the FBI qual isn't hard. Anyone who considers themselves a "serious" gun owner or enthusiast should clear it without problems.
T-Box, frick ya mudda
Unless this is timed I have a grandma with a shaky hand that could pass this. None of you shoot guns here do you? All I see are comments saying " I don't think it would be too hard" if you go to the range even twice a year this should be easy
I qualified the other day at GFH. Got a 94% Easy as shit.
ill take a class once one of u gets a ccw permit until then its a rush to satisfy njs bulshit and throw money
Didn't even need to take a class. Just qualified. I've been following, supporting and donating to various NJ cases for the past 15 years, so I was fricking applying the second the floodgates opened. Nothing has changed other than justifiable need. The qualification I took exceeds what RLEOs have to take. Very confident I'll be getting my permit.
ill just wait never doubt nj and its bullshit although i do hope u get it and shit starts happening
Ty ty
Is Nappen a ally or just a loud mouthpiece?
He's a bit hit or miss. He's less of an activist and more of a mouthpiece, but he does some valuable litigation. Haven't heard word one from him as far as guidance goes with these initial CCW applications.. if he really wanted to further the cause he'd give some advice on applying. There are volunteers in the State that have made more of an impact than him.
I have zero issues with this as long as it's consistent with state PD requirements and does not rise above them in anyway. I don't want idiots running around that shoot once a year thinking they can CCW in a safe manner.
so take away ccw from like every other state?
Every post from these Jersey scum proves they don’t deserve rights or anything else. They should just wallow in their own filth.
just typical fence sitting nj pussies prob teachers or union members
You hit the nail on the head. It’s pretty sad. If Putin sends a nuke I hope it turns one of my philly properties into beach side estates. I pray for a tsunami every day.
this state deserves it the amount of complacent people and union leeches and teacher wienersuckers or even moderates who praise Murphy make me sick
I'm not from Jersey but okay. Guess you're okay with people that just want to be cool and have that CCW and don't train unable to even hit what they are shooting at. Not gonna do a whole lot of good if the "good guy" with a gun fails to even put a single round on a mass shooter and end up a victim themselves.
your are some larping moron gtfo we have enough issues in nj
I'm from Texas man. Even as a pro-2A person I still believe some training and certification is necessary for an armed citizenry. What happened to the "well regulated" part of the 2A? You so conveniently discard when you suites you.
post guns
Airsoft doesn't count anon
Guess you missed those locks on the guns.
>none of them post a gun in response
This board probably has the same proportion of bot posters as /misc/
or the gun owners here are line steppers who have union jobs or whatever and vote that way
>posting funs in 2022
They're just going to call it airsoft
use one on ur head
No I don't think I will. But I did go shooting with the local chapter of BLM today. Said they wanted to learn how to shoot "whitey" or something like that. Told em I was cool with it as long as they didn't shoot me as I'm half Chinese.
zimmerman never missed and was never touched.
we talking baseball?
I didn't ask you to post guns, I called you a disgrace who doesn't understand the second amendment's language.
So unless you think posting that gun makes you smarter, I don't know what you're getting at here.
The fact you are comfortable with people carrying and having zero training is the disgrace.
Anyone without a PHD shouldn’t be allowed to talk. This is what you want right?
So you've accepted that the Constitution says something entirely contrary to what you want and have gone to the more moronic position of "I want this so it's good if it's enforced by government fiat"?
Fricking hell, I hate Texans so goddamn much. Your state is full of nothing but a bunch of bougie fart sniffers who like to pretend that they're tough rebels but hem and haw over actual issues.
Turn in your gun, disgrace. You don't deserve it.
Frick you come and take it!
Why would I do that? You'll turn it in because another collection of your coward cops stood outside a school and listened to children being killed.
After all, if these highly trained men weren't capable of using their guns, why are you? Too scawy, turn it in.
Amen brother, too long whitey has oppressed LGBTQ+ and BIPOC from legally owning firearms which is their god given right.
You're talking to an actual homosexual who owns guns. That kind of D&C attempt at activating contrarianism doesn't work when one of the groups you're trying to leverage people against is the one you are, in fact, dealing with.
Suck my gaydick, anti-Constitutionalist.
>You're talking to an actual homosexual who owns guns.
That you haven't posted lol
>That kind of D&C attempt at activating contrarianism doesn't work
There's nothing contrarian about hating gays and Black folk on /k/ moron.
>but there were gay trips on here!
Every board had gay trips and everyone hated them.
Gays are mentally ill and don't need arms
get trained and go back to muskets
>i'm an idiot and don't understand the wording of the second amendment
gets em every time
Every time I start to get mad about other countries calling americans dumb I remind myself that half of the country apparently doesn't understand sentence structure or shit they teach in grade school civics classes. I don't know specifically why the second amendment makes people moronic. You don't have people arguing that we should start housing air force or national guard members in our homes because those didn't exist at the time the third amendment was written.
>well regulated
Fricking hell. The entire state of Texas is all hat and no cattle.
Holy shit are you one of those commies ruining Texas? I didn’t know scum suckers like you were on /k/
dude they are all over
t. Caligay who moved to the state after being priced out of his hometown, but keeps voting for the same politicians and policies
dude shut the frick up, you're the kind of person that makes Texans look like dumbasses
“Well Regulated Militia” is a militia that supplies its own boots, muskets, powder, and shot when called up, contrasted to a poorly regulated militia which shows up with some swords and pikes and foot wraps if you’re lucky.
Real Texas here. Disregard this California pansy infesting our capitol with his aids riddled brain.
Then stop speaking for people from NJ, moron.
I feel confident I can outshoot you. I can easily pass the FBI pistol qual. But rights shouldn't be behind a competency exam. Some 90 year in a wheelchair has every right to shoot Jamal as I do when they get robbed.
A job as a cop is a privilege, carrying is a right. Ormare you also arguiing in favor of requiring an undergrad degree in journalism or polsci in order to talk to more than a handful of people? "just like the professionals"?
Interesting how the replies start to dry up after someone is challenged to post guns and he does cause anyone here that dares questions the 2A and this boards radical interpretation of it must be from New Jersey.
Holy shit this board is so fricked. Why do people like you exist?
na ur just a gay prob a murphy voter
Interesting how you can tell someone's obviously the same homosexual who's being called out yet is pretending that he's not.
Did I hide that fact at all? Where in my sentence did I ever say "Not the guy posting the guns...but."
Literally the same course of fire from when I was a cop in NC. We had complete hamplanet wastes of space pass that. If you cant you're embarressing. I shot consistant 90-somethings without time to shoot as much as I wanted to and loopy from permanent night shifts and energy drinks. Get gud you frickin clowns
Why do some of u even post here
Then you shouldn't carry, moron. We all know that rights should be exclusive to non-morons.
Considering both DC and NY have lost their court cases for ridiculous limitations on carrying, I would be surprised if NJ imposing a skill barrier to carrying would survive legal scrutiny.
what kind of target size do you have to hit?
pic rel is slowfire 25m precision ISSF
Unless NJ had a similar test for a CC permit back in the late 1700's then that test is unconstitutional based on this recent ruling.
Imagine having a cop check ur social media and run a backround check on you once a month if you have a Cc license where you can’t legally carry anywhere but your own home.
T. Nys
Stop mouthing off on social media then and clapping when some Black person gets gunned down by 12 cops. It's pretty easy man just keep your mouth shut and keep your frickin racism right where it belongs between your ears.
T. Nys pig
I don’t have social media by the way. And who said anything about racism? Are you projecting? I’m married to a black woman.
>NJ
>cheapest qualification course is like $200
>also have to pay for background check
>and fingerprinting
>and general license fee
>and state is apparently adding more requirements that will probably cost more
How is this shit not a poll tax, considering the SC just ruled cc a constitutional right? If you're a poor person living in a shit neighborhood who probably has a much higher need to carry than someone well off, you're shit out of luck cause all this shit will likely cost more than whatever cheapo pistol and ammo you can afford.
If you cant pass a 50 round course of fire, with only 6 rounds beyond 15 yards, you're so fricking bad that you carrying a gun is more of a public danger than a benefit. What exactly are you carrying for if you're that bad of a shot? So you have something to throw at your assailant? Excellent troll post if thats what this is.
Pretty much what I've been saying all along but you know the crowd here. They all talk like highly motivated operators that would throw themselves at Robb Elementary clearing room after room in under 60 seconds. When the brutal truth is they would also be standing around outside.
My issue with the whole thing is the cost honestly. I understand something like a nominal processing fee to keep the people in the department going over applications employed, but they want you to pay the license fee, the bg check fee, third party fingerprint lab fees, and third party training/qualification course fees. I live in NJ and the cheapest I'm finding around for the training is $200. I can afford it and pass that test easily, but for a lot of people in shittier areas where daily cc is probably a good idea that amount of money is a heavier financial strain. But no one at all should have to pay that much just to exercise what was just confirmed as a constitutional right. You don't need to pay for a soldier's hotel lodgings just so they won't shack up in your house. You don't need to pay a fee to vote. You don't need to pay a fee to be guaranteed a trial by jury.
tl;dr: get state and local PDs to offer a free alternative for this bullshit or frick off with it entirely. I hope some poorgay from camden sues the shit out of the state.
>I understand something like a nominal processing fee
you shouldn't be. such "nominal processing fees" have been found unconstitutional for every single other "right".
I'd be okay with it if they brought back literacy tests for voting (for everyone regardless of education level)
www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2012/pdfs-docs/literacytest.pdf
I like that heckin policerino training densely populated cities texasgay never responded to this lmao
Because it has nothing to do with the OP which was about the marksmanship qualification.
But that post was about the qualification, and the fact that you support the government sectioning off rights on the basis of income level
The OP was 100% about the marksmanship test, what part of that do you not get?
Yeah but that post wasn't and you keep ignoring it because you only want well off white people carrying lmao hella based
>I made an off topic post in a thread! Why is no one responding to it!?!?
>you only want white people carrying
yes and you don't need to be well off to get a CC in most states. No one gives a frick about NJ because everyone knows it's a shithole in every regard.
Then why do you care and keep replying to a thread solely about NJ if you don't live there and don't care about it you grifting homosexual?
To make fun of OP for being worried about it. It's a piss easy test.
Use a BB gun
>demonstrates he is a danger to himself and others by failing a remarkably simple marksmanship test
congrats, you belong to the ONLY group of people who I'm fine with denying the right of gun ownership to.
lmao it's not dead center, it's in the black. You can do this easy.