>Impossible, vatBlack folk destroyed one leopard so the offensive was called off
Maybe not actually destroyed but exellent use of free ware image editor and such things surely deserve offensive called off for such great disinformation? Ah it is not fair being Russian. You do your very best disinformation and you still loose war.
the xolxhol finger pushes deep into the russian urethra. but soon the bear will retract the pelvic floor muscles and then the west will know whose ass the ass is truly in
It's a risk of dislodging the screaming cat. If the cat runs away the the hand has nothing to pet, so the hand searches. Normally it would head towards the Kherson zoo in a predictable fashion but Russians destroyed the zoo, and all the pettable animals that a big enough have drowned so the hand hovers around poking at things. It's killed about 50 RF so far.
So easy to debunk this fake shit because we know how russian shills behave. If they truly had one, it would be shilled all over the internet. But instead we get some random twittard who is acting like he knows all the secrets while he is a literal who. What's even the point of writing such tweets?
Russians will always post stock internet images of said equipment too. Meanwhile Ukies will post images of their captured Russian tanks everywhere it goes, give it a nickname, perfectly cite where and when the vehicle was manufactured, etc.
there is nothing of interest for the vatniks to find in a leo2. There is only quality building and materials, beepy boopy magic things and not cut corners
Lads, its been a while since Girkin doomposted, are we sure the Ukies are winning? It might be that the Russian ass is about to clench, or perhaps it already has.
So that's already 5km of road out of the ~115km needed to get to Mariupol in about 4 days ... At this rate, they could make it in 3 month, just in time before the fall. This is assuming the ruskies don't rout and the ukies don't falter
This is probably a moronic way to look at it, but it does give a rough outline for how long this push lasts
If you've been paying attention to storm shadow strikes it's actually more likely they're aiming for Berdyansk on the Azov sea. It seems Russians are using it as a local HQ, maybe just because it's on the coast, or maybe because there's nothing left of Mariupol. Either way taking Mariupol might just slow them down. I assume (leaving out the possibility of another rout like Kyiv, Kherson and Kharkiv, though maybe we shouldn't) that they're not focusing on Mariupol this time. Taking everything west of Mariupol back will put Crimea back in a very precarious position
Losing Tokmak would break the back of russian logistics west of it. Which is why it is defended by multiple layers of fortifications. If Ukraine manages to break those fortifications and cut the railway line that runs through there, it’s literally over for the entire area north of Crimea and Crimea itself will ever extremely complicated in terms of supply.
Nuke who? The corpse that is Ukraine? Fire away, can't hurt what's already dead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not very convincing larp. Russia is not going to nuke anyone. They might threaten it repeatedly, but they simply can’t do it for a plethora of reasons, most of which are political/diplomatic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
also technical.
11 months ago
Anonymous
please do it ziggers, the glassing afterwards will be swift
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ziggers deploy tactical nuke >nuke goes splat on the ground >pictures appear later that day showing core is missing >somewhere in Russia a contractniki is shooting up his newly purchased krokodil >wondering why he feels tired and his hair keeps falling out >Ruzzia humiliated again
11 months ago
Anonymous
why are you answering own posts?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nuke goes off in tel Aviv
11 months ago
Anonymous
I thought Russians live there. Nuke yourself?
11 months ago
Anonymous
nook Nook NOOOOOOK NOOOOOOOOOOOK
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not afraid of pussia nukes after seeing the horrible condition of their military and their 3rd grade war tactics. I doubt that it would work.
Also, Americans probably already control pussia garbage nukes but the Monkees just don't know it.
Basically, pussia is just so incredibly weak and incompetent that noone is afraid of monkey nook nook
They are through 2 lines of defense already, of not 3 by now. They almost halfway through the thickest line, after that it's smooth sailing till the next big city
>They are through 2 lines of defense already, of not 3 by now
Where did you hear that? Afaik, only the first line has been breached, or at least some OSINT sources say so.
Are we really going to pretend 2nd and 3rd lines are some verdun-tier fortifications that are totally manned on 100% efficiency? If they get through 2nd line its unironically over.
Dont post that "map of fortifications" shills were spamming. Its random squiqqly lines with no proof of what the lines actually look like or how many men are there
From what I have seen it's about 4 lines of defense, I do think they go further back than that though. Like 60km inland or some shit.
That said once they are breached, and I do think Ukraine will, Russia will not be able to reorganize new lines of defense anymore. At least unless Ukraine stops pushing for whatever reason.
As soon as it's breached the Russians will be forced to mobilize their reserves to plug the hole and here is where the fun starts, because if they send them to reinforce one hole the other parts of the line will be left to fend by themselves and the ukies will know where to punch to get through, open the gap and send the mobile mechanized brigades to strike the soft, juicy rear echelon underbelly with the fury of a horny chechen dick against a soft mobik butthole.
When we start to see rosgvardia vehicles burning this will be the signal that the ass is not longer in the ass, but in geostationary orbit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It'll be a great fight. Hopefully the battle that breaks the back of Russia forever.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>When we start to see rosgvardia vehicles burning this will be the signal that the ass is not longer in the ass, but in geostationary orbit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
stage 2 ass seperation confirmed FTS (Fart Termination System) is safed
progress during offensives isn't linear - the beginning of any offensive against prepared defenses tend to be the slowest part. also not to mention that no one said "ukies are going to make it to mariupol in 4 days." but hey, gotta practice moving those goal-posts or you might get rusty.
I wasn't belittling the progress at all, I just wanted a timeline for when this offensive will reach its goals. 3 months is the slowest timeline possible, it will probably be much quicker, maybe even by july
So that's already 5km of road out of the ~115km needed to get to Mariupol in about 4 days ... At this rate, they could make it in 3 month, just in time before the fall. This is assuming the ruskies don't rout and the ukies don't falter
This is probably a moronic way to look at it, but it does give a rough outline for how long this push lasts
5km/day in attacking entrenched positions through minefields is pretty good.
Off-road vehicles might be capable of driving 30-50km/h, but yolo just grts you killed, and people will die in a well executed offensive.
Speaking of yolo, you do need to nut-up amd attack aggressively. A meek offensive doesn't do anything.
Holy shit the VatBlack folk haven’t prepared defensive lines through the entire countryside
They need to break through the prepared depth then it’s free gains across open country until they hit rearward staging areas (presuming pozziyans are smart enough to reinforce those) or urban buildup
Russians don't think that way. They think in terms of seizing the URBAN areas but they neglect the fields & other such surrounding areas.
Reminds me yet again of Vietnam. Russia may have the cities but the surrounding terrain is wide open.
Not yet. Russians actually dug in this time. However, after ukies reach the last line of defence, then the rout begins. From what I recall, all lines in total are 20km in depth. We're half way there almost
Bunch of precision artillery/missile strikes should blow some big holes in their last lines. Or hell, even a big fricking bomb like something out of "The Crater". Explode it and breach Russian lines.
>At this rate, they could make it in 3 month
That's not how it's gonna work regardless of how things are actually going on the ground
Russia doesn't just have a defensive line every km all the way to Mariupol
Either Russia runs out of defensive lines and it becomes a rout or Ukraine abandons the offensive if it's too costly or a greater need arises elsewhere
Very unlikely either will take 3 months
Closer to donetsk, but everyone considers it the Zapo from. If you start from Velyka (where [...] this push started), you can take the T0518 road and eventually get to mariupol
Or as [...] said, take a right turn to Tokmak and maybe pontoon reinforcements over the soon-to-be narrower river
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Yep, it could be much quicker. Interesting shit will be going down in july for sure
The rail line that connects Tokmak to the East runs through Volnovakha, where there is a branch line that runs south to Mariupol, but dead ends. If Ukraine can reach that line, they can cut rail supply from the east to Melitpol and the occupied portions of Kherson Oblast. Zachativkha is the most obvious immediate objective for achieving that goal, as it's is where the line turns away from the T0518 road.
I'm as pro-ukie as it gets and I don't expect them to really be able to get Mariupol back. But the thing about your calculation is that it implies that they're going to meet resistance the whole way. Once they breach all six lines of fortifications, the russians will retreat all the way to mariupol, leaving the actual landbridge severed
Closer to donetsk, but everyone considers it the Zapo from. If you start from Velyka (where
https://i.imgur.com/UuKDeue.jpg
No need for weeks m8
this push started), you can take the T0518 road and eventually get to mariupol
Or as
Taking Tokmak or Volonvakha in 1 month time would be great for hohols tbh.
That alone would strain russian logistics in Zapo considerably.
said, take a right turn to Tokmak and maybe pontoon reinforcements over the soon-to-be narrower river
They are through 2 lines of defense already, of not 3 by now. They almost halfway through the thickest line, after that it's smooth sailing till the next big city
Yep, it could be much quicker. Interesting shit will be going down in july for sure
Ukies seem to wait until the actual advance has cleared and pushed past a town before they do the little flag thing, whereas the russians scramble to do a flag at first opportunity even if there's ongoing fighting.
Taking south Donetzk/ north Zaporigia would be insane
It would be a suicide to hold unless they have overwhelming power (which they don't) and would achieve 0 strategic goals
Taking Lughansk or even some random russian (from 1991) territory would make more sense
Is this surprising? Did anyone expect the fricking barely trained mobiks with no radios to properly retreat to the next line of defence ? I said this earlier, they overshot their own lines when they retreated and now ukies are taking advantage
PS: today I expect a video to drop of ukie engineering units recovering that column from day 1. 100%
I think they HAD some, but Bakhmut was giving Wagner trouble so the VDV got sent there. THEN Belorgrod also happened and even more units got moved off the South front to help there.
They don't have that many professionals left and put them in mobile reserves but it is an awfully long front line and most of it is defended by thinly stretched mobik outfits.
>most units along the line thinly stretched and hollowed out >entirely reliant on a few mobile units to try and plug developing gaps >while enemy is able to virtually attack at leisure across the line
Hmm, why does this feel familiar?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I get that too.
I'm sure it's nothing anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I thought Kharkiv thunder was the Bagration remake. Good damn Hollywood writers' strike. We're getting the same plot line not even a year later.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Doing the same thing again because it works is a sin in writing. Not so in military operations.
>I said this earlier, they overshot their own lines when they retreated and now ukies are taking advantage
I tried to explain this to the people here too. Retreating through a series of defensive lines is pretty difficult, it's something that even professional units have to put a lot of work into. You need to be able to break contact reliably, move a bunch of men and equipment back, move wounded, etc.
This is ironically the same problem the Wehrmacht was facing from 1943 onward. Having crack tank divisions that can destroy anything they go up against doesn't help much if you don't have enough of them and as a result have to spread them piecemeal across the front to stop breakthroughs.
>You need to be able to break contact reliably, move a bunch of men and equipment back, move wounded, etc. >move a bunch of men ... back >move wounded
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Novodonetske captured last night. Urozhaine no russian sources confirming captured, but Rybar's map doesn't include it in Russian control, so they probably withdrew from it
>mobiks first line
do these homies just exist to let Russia know that an attack is happening when they all get fricking killed and stop sending radio messages or what?
Yes, ti's wild how badly mobiks are treated since they were once just regular Russian citizens. They're treated like the worst slaves possible whose lives are completely expendable. Mobik trench lines are killed, they just send in replacements and don't even remove the bodies.
First line is just to act as a speedbump so that hte 2nd and 3rd lines can then react and counter attack.
Oh, so maybe its miss-translated "zhopu zhopa", which would roughly translate to "the ass of all asses" or "the assiest ass"
Whenever someone on /k/ makes a parody of telegram speech, there is inevitably someone who ends up saying something pretty close to it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So basically our equivalent of using "Frick" a lot?
That seems plausible. I hate it the same way I hate allau akbar but then you stop and think how much >Jesus christ >oh my god >holy shit
are. Frick is just nice because it's neutral and variable whereas ass-fricking is scatological and akbar is bad panic and good celebration so it's overused.
No they really do use it a shit ton. These are menus from Sochi when they had the olympics there.
That seems plausible. I hate it the same way I hate allau akbar but then you stop and think how much >Jesus christ >oh my god >holy shit
are. Frick is just nice because it's neutral and variable whereas ass-fricking is scatological and akbar is bad panic and good celebration so it's overused.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not to mention when "Frick" is overused in just the right way, it can become strangely hilarious.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That seems plausible. I hate it the same way I hate allau akbar but then you stop and think how much >Jesus christ >oh my god >holy shit
are. Frick is just nice because it's neutral and variable whereas ass-fricking is scatological and akbar is bad panic and good celebration so it's overused.
I can't find it now, but htere's a Kurdish soldier who speaks no English but has worked with American soldiers who did an impression of them. Texan drawl with a lot of "oh shit" and "frick frick frick."
11 months ago
Anonymous
It gets really funny and weird when you consider "xui", which is just a curse for penis (basically a male version of "c**t", because "dick" is less powerful as a curse when compared to "c**t"). But the thing is, xui can be used literally everywhere, its kind of like corn syrup. "Axuyel" is basically "based", but direct translation would be "dick-y". "Naxuy" is the exemplary curse, which basically means "to-dick", or for a more meaningful translation, pretty much telling someone to go ("idi") crawl up a penis. Its also can get a ton of vulgar, but non curseword variations that could be used for every day scenarios. The best example would be this sentence: "Naxuya daxuya prixuyareli? Xuyarit naxui!", which basically means "why did you take so much? Take it away!", or more exactly "wienering-why wiener-much wiener-take? wiener-take it to wiener".
Not to defend Russian military practices, which are abysmal, but any overstretched military can be forced into using small units as a "trip wire," to hold back an enemy attack.
The US had to do this with the infamous "Charlie Company," who was tasked with defending a huge area against what ended up being a regiment + attack. IIRC the company had like 180 men to start the night, at the end three survived, two taken prisoner who later escaped, both wounded, and one left for dead who crawled to the closest ROKs, unable to walk.
But the difference there is that the men were told why they had to be in such a precarious position. When the attack came, the commander asked for permission to retreat, was told why they couldn't and needed to slow the progress of the enemy. They defended their positions until overrun, the fee survivors retreated in the darkness and mounted another last stand, and the gap was filled in time to prevent a total collapse in the line.
Russia doesn't have them men for such a large front, so men being in terrible positions is necessary. However, the way they do this is absolutely not
As an aside, historians will also talk about how liberal democracies can't offer the same sort of stubborn resistance as autocracies. For example, Hastings argues this over and over in his kaleidoscopic Inferno on WWII. But this actually doesn't appear to be the case. Overall, Americans defended their positions in the Pacific with incredible resolve, often to the point of being completely overrun. Corrigador is an example where there is absolutely no chance of rescue, hellish conditions, and yet a last stand even before the depth of Jap depravity to prisoners was known. So, I don't think this thesis actually holds. If anything, both American and Japanese soldiers preformed far better at this is some key placed than Germans and especially Soviets, who were held in place by threats of execution for retreat. Although, this also made the Pacific hellish.
>If anything, both American and Japanese soldiers preformed far better at this is some key placed than Germans and especially Soviets, who were held in place by threats of execution for retreat. Although, this also made the Pacific hellish.
I think this is also because the Pacific fighting took place almost entirely on Islands. Where exactly are you going to retreat to? It is physically possible if somewhat inadvisable for German and Soviet soldiers to simply walk home from the front lines and I think this knowledge played some small role in their mental calculations.
>historians will also talk about how liberal democracies can't offer the same sort of stubborn resistance as autocracies
How do people still come to this conclusion after the fierce resistance offered by France in WW1? Or Britain and the US during WW2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not to mention USSR had Lend-Lease clearly behind it. They're just kissing the Soviets' ass.
I will die on the hill of being pissed that we can't post gore on a blue board. Ass in ass posting demands the use of the legendary disembodied Russian ass laying on the grass from the first days of the invasion.
i remember that being one of the first things i saw when i learned in the morning shit was going down. grim but the funniest gore i've ever seen, never knew explosions could deglove someone like that, let's not even mention the spine still sitting in the driver's seat
I still remember the gore of the cute little puppies feeding on an occupier's abandoned corpse (STILL disgusting how Russians ABANDON their dead. Pathetic! Fricking barbarism)
it really impresses me that even most armies in ww2 were pretty good at retrieving their dead, and russians in the 21st century just make no effort at all, many corpses from the start of the war are still just lying down, hell many corpses from the ww2 red army are still being dug up in massive amounts.
russians truly make great fertilizer, i get why ukrainians emphasise that so much.
Very much the same for me. It still remains one of the single funniest gore I've seen from the war so far. >let's not even mention the spine still sitting in the driver's seat
I'm just glad I'm not the only one that was blown away by the surreal shit that was that video. Shit was a warning for the whacky brutal shit this war would bring all along.
I have no doubt Girkin is b***hing about "We need to raise even more men", never mind the fact Russia is effectively out of fricking TIME to train them kek.
>kgb veterans
Prig isn't a glowie, he's protected by them at best. His career path was pimping underage girls, then pimping his ass in prison, then catering.
It's also a massive sign of a non-existent chain of command & poor discipline.
The Ukrainian infighting has been comparatively tame. I think it has something to do with the whole, "We're all gonna be genocided if we don't work together" thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's actually the most human thing about them. Infighting in times of crisis is a very human thing to do.
It's due to how Ukraine and Russia are organized. Russia is an empire with a King and dukes with their own armies. The King wants the Dukes to be fighting each other and to never unite so they can overthrow him. Ukraine is a proper modern state with proper command structure.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Basically a Westerned Slavic nation....which terrifies the Russians of course, lol.
They don't have that many professionals left and put them in mobile reserves but it is an awfully long front line and most of it is defended by thinly stretched mobik outfits.
"MUH NUMBERS" don't count for shit if the defense lines are so long and thin, they cannot hold.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Or put another way, Putin is trying to defend EVERYTHING (Bakhmut, Belogrod, South, etc.). The man does not know when to make the hard choices when it comes to resource conservation. It is, again, too many fronts for Russia to try to hold with fricking idiots.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They don't have that many professionals left and put them in mobile reserves but it is an awfully long front line and most of it is defended by thinly stretched mobik outfits.
>2 more weeks and the Ukies will be in Meriopol and Crimea will be DOOMED
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe faster than that. I'm going to guess Russian lines will evaporate fast due to awful morale.
11 months ago
Anonymous
who are you quoting?
11 months ago
Anonymous
And in a hilarious bit of irony, the war has allowed Ukraine to tackle their very serious corruption issues (to a point).
11 months ago
Anonymous
Of course. When your opponent trying to genocide you is corrupt, you naturally try NOT to be corrupt for the sake of survival (and hatred of your enemy).
When corruption endangers one's very existential survival as a people, it is the nature of one to try to improve.
You do realize the germs went around training every army around who had cash right? A lot of the naming just kind of stuck.
I fully approve of Ukraine having "Jaegar" units. It's a way to repudiate the Soviet/Vatnik "Guards" designation. That and "Jaegar" sounds much cooler.
Not yet. Russians actually dug in this time. However, after ukies reach the last line of defence, then the rout begins. From what I recall, all lines in total are 20km in depth. We're half way there almost
Where do people think the "First" and "Last" line of defense are?
There are certainly earthworks as far south as the beaches around Mariupol, so where is the "Last" line?
And there were earthworks and troops as far north as the point of contact, was that the "First" line of defense, or does it not count?
Aren't Mariupol and Melitipol both heavily riddled with Ukrainian partisans, lol?
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, partisans are mostly outside the big cities.
Not saying there aren't some holdouts, but Russians usually went hard on purging the population of Mariupol especially. Everyone with a hunting license or suspected of not being a Soviet fan got "processed" and their property given to Tajiks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Woah! What a based savior of the white race Monke keeps being!
There isn't a proper "last" line of defense, but it's not possible for every position to be manned 100% all the time, so at some point a unit is going to fail to fall back properly and that'll mark the "last" line of defense for that area.
In general? Lines of defense all the way back, at some point becoming lesser (territory captured since 2022 but not prioritized, think fields away from main roads around Mariupol or whatever) then becoming a lot stronger as we get into Crimea or Donetsk. Which positions are manned properly and thus dangerous or manned by moronic mobiks and thus trivial will depend on Russian strategy.
Not yet. Russians actually dug in this time. However, after ukies reach the last line of defence, then the rout begins. From what I recall, all lines in total are 20km in depth. We're half way there almost
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's over. Russia wins.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Is this supposed to be the first line, or all the lines?
Rabble. VDV (lol) is in bakhnut, Wagner are recruiting the last hobos in Russia, and the Chechens are filming tik toks somewhere either east side of bakhmut or way behind lines
Yeah........Russia's gonna be routed bad. A horde of exhausted low-morale rabble cannot hold against freshly trained units who haven't even seen COMBAT yet.
>mobiks first line
do these homies just exist to let Russia know that an attack is happening when they all get fricking killed and stop sending radio messages or what?
Yeah that was their sort of defense in depth strategy. Have multiple lines, pull back, have the next line be the counter attack that takes back the last line.
Except they haven't been able to take them back, probably because the fights are taking place on such short and fast time scales. The Ukrainians aren't exhausted because they're keeping a solid tempo.
The Ukrainians simply fight better, especially against untrained rabble with shitty morale.
I think this counteroffensive is going to end up a "no contest" in the end. The Russians used up the best pieces on the chess board WAY too early in the game, Ukraine held their pieces back.
Why do you frickers think that Wagner is some super elite force with tens of thousands of Uruk-hai just waiting to be unleashed? Prigozhin was freaking out because they were about to collapse and he needed an excuse to withrdaw. Wagner is going back to Mali because they lost like 75% of their army in Bakhmut. 20 guys with tryhard patches can't do shit.
I never said Wagner was an "elite force". I merely asked if Wagner was going to dare try to oppose Ukraine at its FULL power, or if Prozakb***h would make up some excuse to not get involved.
He talks tough but I want to see him send Wagner to its final doom.
Oh even worse than I thought. Wagner has been used and now they're being discarded. Anything left will just be absorbed into the army. Another PMC for bullying Africans will be made.
Oh, nice. There aren't a lot of railway links between the current frontline in Zaporizhzhia and Russian-controlled territory in Crimea.
Actually, that might be the only one that isn't dangerously exposed to some kind of artillery already.
Russians are getting worried about this failed offensive for some reason >It is clear that after Neskuchne the enemy moves on, and our units, with a lack of forces, could go lower to a more fortified defense line due to flank attacks by enemy units. From the field they report that reinforcements are needed to level the situation.
Yeah but it's a German word which denotes light infantry units since those were made out of hunters 200 years ago. Just find it funny the Ukrainians adopted the term.
Damn they actually seem to be making decent progress for the first few days.
If this thing works out for them I'm going to be so sucking smug at the mouthbreathing mongoloid russian semen guzzlers who spammed the board.
16 months into a war and you've only now noticed that Ukraine doesn't take cities in battles street by street but forcing Russians out while Russians spent 14 months going through three cities?
Going around them is what you are supposed to do. Urban fighting is costly in manpower and resources and ruins the city which you presumably want to annex. Getting bogged down in urban fighting is a tactical failure in itself. It shows that the attacking army lacks the ability to mound mechanized assaults.
Since last Summer, every time the Russians tried to do advanced with achieve breakthroughs with mechanized troops, either their logistics broke down or they got ambushed. They had an advantage in artillery though so they resorted to basic WW1 style tactics of shelling enemy positions than sending in infantry to capture them. Which "works" but it's not a sustainable.
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Just me or does it feel like we're about to see some regrooping/feinting/tactical advancing backwards
0 chance
If Russia loses the rails to Melitopol they lose Crimea as well. Everything west of Mariupol is an automatic loss once the Ukrainians manage to reach that area and prevent Russian supply from coming through.
Russians see killing every man under 40 as an acceptable price to prevent that from happening. And Putin doesn't think it's acceptable, he thinks it would be a bargain deal.
Correct. They're much smarter than Vatniks. They just take the higher ground and blast the enemy, forcing him out. They do not waste time in urban combat unless they must.
Even fricking Bakhmut had them holding the outside flanks, forcing the Russians to move through the path of MOST resistance.
Holy shit, they are cutting through defense lines like knife through butter. If this picture is right, they have potential to flank all the way to zavitne. If they managed to get that far, its unironically over. Tokmak is not far away from there and I doubt defensive lines are as strong there either
>spam a single tank kill in which the crew survived
“RUSSIA STRONK NATO IS FINISHED UKRAINE WILL BE BEATEN IN TWO WEEKS” >Ukraine actually makes substantial gains
“Heh, you call THAT winning? Pfft you’re nothing!”
How can someone be this disingenuous?
https://i.imgur.com/uKAIPry.png
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/pol/ZIZTERS, WE SPAMMED SO MANY THREADS ABOUT THAT TANK! HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING!? HOW HOW HOW HOW??!
https://i.imgur.com/qmj8leo.jpg
SPAM THE TANK PICTURES AGAIN
>/misc/ still thinks their posts affect reality
The 2016 election fricking destroyed that board
You must be shitting me!!, I expected more competency from russians on fortified positions this can't be true.
Also ukies have been training NATO standars only for some months I expected them behaving more vatnik-eske.
I wish they do but I'm not getting my hopes too high.
These are just a shitty 5 rural houses "towns" LMAO check the overall map they advanced NOTHING. A counter offensive with western equipment, training and intel and you only managed to took 3 farms LOL
>Command your forces in real-time
Sadly this never took off much. The only mainstream games that still does this these days is Mount&Blade.
You do realize the germs went around training every army around who had cash right? A lot of the naming just kind of stuck.
Ukraine didn't exist when they did this. I would'v assumed Ukraine new post-2014 army would use British or Canadian naming conventions since they trained them the most.
the great russian rooster's cloaca is merely being probed, we shall wait until the wieners stick there entire hand and once they clasp the egg inside, we will slam our butthole shut with mighty force and deglove the dills. the eyebrow is being combed and readied. the grain is being eaten.
Yeh, even the finger doesnt make it exciting no more. I really hoped Ukraine would show smth after 9months of preparation, the entire Western world helping, billions of dollars in weapons and training - but they are just to moronic. Ukraine is done and we know it for over a year now.
At least show some sportsmanship and throw everything you have into the battle.
It is the last shit you get.
Impossible, vatBlack folk destroyed one leopard so the offensive was called off
>Impossible, vatBlack folk destroyed one leopard so the offensive was called off
Maybe not actually destroyed but exellent use of free ware image editor and such things surely deserve offensive called off for such great disinformation? Ah it is not fair being Russian. You do your very best disinformation and you still loose war.
Underrated
Yes, we were immediately demotivated, turns out all the years of "ITS OVER!" on /b/ really paid off for Mr Putin.
I wouldn't worry about it
No panic, now himars can target mariopol
What's the finger
the xolxhol finger pushes deep into the russian urethra. but soon the bear will retract the pelvic floor muscles and then the west will know whose ass the ass is truly in
Hmmm yes now I understand
>Everyone understands everything
Everyone understands everything now
Ass is truly in the ass now
>Verification not required.
>the west will know whose ass the ass is truly in
The bear will clench its anus forever
>the west will know whose ass the ass is truly in
It's a risk of dislodging the screaming cat. If the cat runs away the the hand has nothing to pet, so the hand searches. Normally it would head towards the Kherson zoo in a predictable fashion but Russians destroyed the zoo, and all the pettable animals that a big enough have drowned so the hand hovers around poking at things. It's killed about 50 RF so far.
the finger that will start the motion that will raise the eyebrow
>bend over, I’ll show ya.
It needs the wavy HATO flag in the ackground.
The ass in in the ass. Everyone knows everything. Genitals are at work in the region.
heh, nothing personnel hohol
You fool! Those arrows are nowhere near thick enough! Moscow is DOOMED!
I'm afraid you never had a chance
We have your leopards
can we see them?
No
>picture still has the german balkenkreuz on it
lol
Don't call it a Balkenkreuz, Balkenkreuz has parallel lines. Tatzenkreuz, Iron Cross, Black Cross would work.
>Tatzenkreuz
thanks for info anon
>hairline copelord retweeted
Just like those Caesars they bought from Ukrainians?
>Huh....so that's what a tank engine is supposed to look like....
I was waiting for Armchair Warlord to declare the offensive a failure. That way I know it's succesful.
They took your mom
So you're saying in 30 years or so Russia might be able to reverse engineer a tank engine that isn't from the 1940s?
So? That's probably like alien tech for their vodka addled minds anyway.
just for the context - war correspondent Kots is like top pro-Putin wienersucker, literally feeding of his pocket
citing him is like citing goebbels
Goebbels was at least a high ranking official and a very influential historical figure, Pots is a literally who
So easy to debunk this fake shit because we know how russian shills behave. If they truly had one, it would be shilled all over the internet. But instead we get some random twittard who is acting like he knows all the secrets while he is a literal who. What's even the point of writing such tweets?
Russians will always post stock internet images of said equipment too. Meanwhile Ukies will post images of their captured Russian tanks everywhere it goes, give it a nickname, perfectly cite where and when the vehicle was manufactured, etc.
>What's even the point of writing such tweets?
The point is to climb the hill of russian trolls and reclaim the nested ass throne.
>Russian journalist reports the anus is clenched and everything is understood
there is nothing of interest for the vatniks to find in a leo2. There is only quality building and materials, beepy boopy magic things and not cut corners
>In short, the rear is in the rear
If they had one we would see pictures spammed every day LOL
they captured them through a minefield?
Not so fast...
Amateur vatniks can't think one two steps ahead
NATO trained genius at work
Taking into account that both sides use Soviet war doctrine I think that's how the battlefield really looks like right now
you thought
But where is the ass? Within another ass perhaps?
Put ass back in ass, Anon
arrows are not thick enough
Lads, its been a while since Girkin doomposted, are we sure the Ukies are winning? It might be that the Russian ass is about to clench, or perhaps it already has.
As old russian proverb puts it
>The finger is in the ass.
Can we fricking fast forward a few weeks and see the tel gains losses
Right now it's literally just "xaxa we blew it all up/hohohohol we took miles back"
No need for weeks m8
So that's already 5km of road out of the ~115km needed to get to Mariupol in about 4 days ... At this rate, they could make it in 3 month, just in time before the fall. This is assuming the ruskies don't rout and the ukies don't falter
This is probably a moronic way to look at it, but it does give a rough outline for how long this push lasts
>4 days
I'm pretty sure the attack from Zolota Nyva towards Makarivka took like a day anon.
I set the start date on june 6th to be generous. If this really was a 1-2 day push, they could have mariupol in arty range by mid/late july
It's just the closest major hub on the azov sea if you take the T0518 road. It's not like I have anything else to go by
My guess was cutting towards Melitopol and then pinching the Russians along the Dnieper while Kherson front Ukies push south
How do you know they are to Mariupol
Either that or Melitopol so they could blow up the Crimea bridge.
If you've been paying attention to storm shadow strikes it's actually more likely they're aiming for Berdyansk on the Azov sea. It seems Russians are using it as a local HQ, maybe just because it's on the coast, or maybe because there's nothing left of Mariupol. Either way taking Mariupol might just slow them down. I assume (leaving out the possibility of another rout like Kyiv, Kherson and Kharkiv, though maybe we shouldn't) that they're not focusing on Mariupol this time. Taking everything west of Mariupol back will put Crimea back in a very precarious position
Taking Tokmak or Volonvakha in 1 month time would be great for hohols tbh.
That alone would strain russian logistics in Zapo considerably.
Losing Tokmak would break the back of russian logistics west of it. Which is why it is defended by multiple layers of fortifications. If Ukraine manages to break those fortifications and cut the railway line that runs through there, it’s literally over for the entire area north of Crimea and Crimea itself will ever extremely complicated in terms of supply.
You try and we nuke*~~)
Bet
Nuke who? The corpse that is Ukraine? Fire away, can't hurt what's already dead.
Not very convincing larp. Russia is not going to nuke anyone. They might threaten it repeatedly, but they simply can’t do it for a plethora of reasons, most of which are political/diplomatic.
also technical.
please do it ziggers, the glassing afterwards will be swift
>ziggers deploy tactical nuke
>nuke goes splat on the ground
>pictures appear later that day showing core is missing
>somewhere in Russia a contractniki is shooting up his newly purchased krokodil
>wondering why he feels tired and his hair keeps falling out
>Ruzzia humiliated again
why are you answering own posts?
Nuke goes off in tel Aviv
I thought Russians live there. Nuke yourself?
nook Nook NOOOOOOK NOOOOOOOOOOOK
I'm not afraid of pussia nukes after seeing the horrible condition of their military and their 3rd grade war tactics. I doubt that it would work.
Also, Americans probably already control pussia garbage nukes but the Monkees just don't know it.
Basically, pussia is just so incredibly weak and incompetent that noone is afraid of monkey nook nook
Russians will run out of prepared depth long before then and it'll turn into a rout to the point where their lines stabilise again.
They are through 2 lines of defense already, of not 3 by now. They almost halfway through the thickest line, after that it's smooth sailing till the next big city
>They are through 2 lines of defense already, of not 3 by now
Where did you hear that? Afaik, only the first line has been breached, or at least some OSINT sources say so.
Are we really going to pretend 2nd and 3rd lines are some verdun-tier fortifications that are totally manned on 100% efficiency? If they get through 2nd line its unironically over.
Dont post that "map of fortifications" shills were spamming. Its random squiqqly lines with no proof of what the lines actually look like or how many men are there
My dude even the rebar maps show ukies pushing several towns deep. And that was from what happened on the ground 2 days ago
From what I have seen it's about 4 lines of defense, I do think they go further back than that though. Like 60km inland or some shit.
That said once they are breached, and I do think Ukraine will, Russia will not be able to reorganize new lines of defense anymore. At least unless Ukraine stops pushing for whatever reason.
I don't think Ukraine intends to stop this time. They'll advance all the way to their intended target, come hell or high water.
As soon as it's breached the Russians will be forced to mobilize their reserves to plug the hole and here is where the fun starts, because if they send them to reinforce one hole the other parts of the line will be left to fend by themselves and the ukies will know where to punch to get through, open the gap and send the mobile mechanized brigades to strike the soft, juicy rear echelon underbelly with the fury of a horny chechen dick against a soft mobik butthole.
When we start to see rosgvardia vehicles burning this will be the signal that the ass is not longer in the ass, but in geostationary orbit.
It'll be a great fight. Hopefully the battle that breaks the back of Russia forever.
>When we start to see rosgvardia vehicles burning this will be the signal that the ass is not longer in the ass, but in geostationary orbit.
stage 2 ass seperation confirmed FTS (Fart Termination System) is safed
progress during offensives isn't linear - the beginning of any offensive against prepared defenses tend to be the slowest part. also not to mention that no one said "ukies are going to make it to mariupol in 4 days." but hey, gotta practice moving those goal-posts or you might get rusty.
I wasn't belittling the progress at all, I just wanted a timeline for when this offensive will reach its goals. 3 months is the slowest timeline possible, it will probably be much quicker, maybe even by july
5km/day in attacking entrenched positions through minefields is pretty good.
Off-road vehicles might be capable of driving 30-50km/h, but yolo just grts you killed, and people will die in a well executed offensive.
Speaking of yolo, you do need to nut-up amd attack aggressively. A meek offensive doesn't do anything.
Holy shit the VatBlack folk haven’t prepared defensive lines through the entire countryside
They need to break through the prepared depth then it’s free gains across open country until they hit rearward staging areas (presuming pozziyans are smart enough to reinforce those) or urban buildup
Russians don't think that way. They think in terms of seizing the URBAN areas but they neglect the fields & other such surrounding areas.
Reminds me yet again of Vietnam. Russia may have the cities but the surrounding terrain is wide open.
Bunch of precision artillery/missile strikes should blow some big holes in their last lines. Or hell, even a big fricking bomb like something out of "The Crater". Explode it and breach Russian lines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Crater
>At this rate, they could make it in 3 month
That's not how it's gonna work regardless of how things are actually going on the ground
Russia doesn't just have a defensive line every km all the way to Mariupol
Either Russia runs out of defensive lines and it becomes a rout or Ukraine abandons the offensive if it's too costly or a greater need arises elsewhere
Very unlikely either will take 3 months
I think the rout will happen with shocking speed and suddenness. Russians run out of defensive lines, Ukrainians start chasing them down.
Any real pockets of resistance should be blasted without hesitation.
The rail line that connects Tokmak to the East runs through Volnovakha, where there is a branch line that runs south to Mariupol, but dead ends. If Ukraine can reach that line, they can cut rail supply from the east to Melitpol and the occupied portions of Kherson Oblast. Zachativkha is the most obvious immediate objective for achieving that goal, as it's is where the line turns away from the T0518 road.
I'm as pro-ukie as it gets and I don't expect them to really be able to get Mariupol back. But the thing about your calculation is that it implies that they're going to meet resistance the whole way. Once they breach all six lines of fortifications, the russians will retreat all the way to mariupol, leaving the actual landbridge severed
Just getting it in arty range is good enough. It's a terrible idea to hold it for too long it if the ukies are shelling it
they can get Mariupol back if the land bridge was severed to the east of Mariupol.
Is that the Donezk or Zapo front?
Administratively its still Donetsk oblast but its on the border between the regions so most count it as Zapo front.
Thx
Closer to donetsk, but everyone considers it the Zapo from. If you start from Velyka (where
this push started), you can take the T0518 road and eventually get to mariupol
Or as
said, take a right turn to Tokmak and maybe pontoon reinforcements over the soon-to-be narrower river
Yep, it could be much quicker. Interesting shit will be going down in july for sure
By the way no one really explained what the finger means
I just leave this here, curtsey of 68th separate hunting brigade of Ukraine.
>Pictures of flags or people in front of geolocatable buildings
Nice, this is what I sad people should wait for.
We knew this at this time yesm0pkjterday
>verification needed
is that the springfield of ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blahodatne
>name 5 Ukrainian towns
>Oleksandrivka
>ok you win
he's still dabbing on geographers to this day
Oleksandrija too
There's video as well
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1667826884439076865
Seemingly no signs of fighting in the background
Ukies seem to wait until the actual advance has cleared and pushed past a town before they do the little flag thing, whereas the russians scramble to do a flag at first opportunity even if there's ongoing fighting.
There have already been videos of Ukkie trucks just casually moving south past Blagodatne as if it is already in the rear.
Tempo tempo tempo
They called off the offensive after one hour when two bradleys got disabled, fake news
Zoom out neger
>up to 10km deep advances over a 20km wide front
not bad for starters
Taking south Donetzk/ north Zaporigia would be insane
It would be a suicide to hold unless they have overwhelming power (which they don't) and would achieve 0 strategic goals
Taking Lughansk or even some random russian (from 1991) territory would make more sense
Bub, you're MALDing hard.
>vatnik
lol. israelite spotted
You OK, bunker troony?
Urozhaine and Novodonetske next.
ROLLING ROLLING ROLLING
Storozhevne under AFU according to vatniks!
Is this surprising? Did anyone expect the fricking barely trained mobiks with no radios to properly retreat to the next line of defence ? I said this earlier, they overshot their own lines when they retreated and now ukies are taking advantage
PS: today I expect a video to drop of ukie engineering units recovering that column from day 1. 100%
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN ZISTERS!!!??? WE POSTED SO MANY THREADS ABOUT THAT ONE TANK!
Does russia only have mobiks? I assumed they put their better trained guys in the south
I think they HAD some, but Bakhmut was giving Wagner trouble so the VDV got sent there. THEN Belorgrod also happened and even more units got moved off the South front to help there.
They don't have that many professionals left and put them in mobile reserves but it is an awfully long front line and most of it is defended by thinly stretched mobik outfits.
>most units along the line thinly stretched and hollowed out
>entirely reliant on a few mobile units to try and plug developing gaps
>while enemy is able to virtually attack at leisure across the line
Hmm, why does this feel familiar?
I get that too.
I'm sure it's nothing anon.
I thought Kharkiv thunder was the Bagration remake. Good damn Hollywood writers' strike. We're getting the same plot line not even a year later.
Doing the same thing again because it works is a sin in writing. Not so in military operations.
>I said this earlier, they overshot their own lines when they retreated and now ukies are taking advantage
I tried to explain this to the people here too. Retreating through a series of defensive lines is pretty difficult, it's something that even professional units have to put a lot of work into. You need to be able to break contact reliably, move a bunch of men and equipment back, move wounded, etc.
This is ironically the same problem the Wehrmacht was facing from 1943 onward. Having crack tank divisions that can destroy anything they go up against doesn't help much if you don't have enough of them and as a result have to spread them piecemeal across the front to stop breakthroughs.
>You need to be able to break contact reliably, move a bunch of men and equipment back, move wounded, etc.
>move a bunch of men ... back
>move wounded
aхaхaхaхaхa...
нeт
Novodonetske captured last night. Urozhaine no russian sources confirming captured, but Rybar's map doesn't include it in Russian control, so they probably withdrew from it
TEMPO
TEMPO
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Semi-related: any recent news from Belgorod oblast? Haven’t heard anything since the last weekend
Imho it is just a frick around with the russian border guards, tying down forces and equipment that the russians would desperately need elsewhere now.
Double bluff possibly. If Russia did not commit any serious forces up north, then Ukraine might actually push the NE front.
Understanding status:
[ ] Somebody knows something
[ ] Nobody knows nothing
[x] Everybody knows Everything
Ass status:
[ ] Vacant
[ ] Penis in the ass
[x] Ass is in the ass
Cauldron status:
[ ] Open
[x] Closing
[ ] Closed
Eybrow:
[ ] Relaxed
[x] Raised
Gloves:
[ ] On
[x] Off
you know, ass in the assposting has become one of my favourite memes of this war. it's just so versatile and you can do so many things with it.
What is even the origin? Or is it just an artistic recreation of Telegramtard speech patterns?
Not that anon but I always just assumed it's a Russian equivalent of "shit's fricked"
Oh, so maybe its miss-translated "zhopu zhopa", which would roughly translate to "the ass of all asses" or "the assiest ass"
>Or is it just an artistic recreation of Telegramtard speech patterns?
Exaggeration for comedic effect. They do say "in the ass" a lot and then pepper in anal references so that's the logical conclusion.
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/k.desu.meta/text/%22ass%20is%20in%20the%20ass%20%22/order/asc/
Yes, ti's wild how badly mobiks are treated since they were once just regular Russian citizens. They're treated like the worst slaves possible whose lives are completely expendable. Mobik trench lines are killed, they just send in replacements and don't even remove the bodies.
First line is just to act as a speedbump so that hte 2nd and 3rd lines can then react and counter attack.
So basically our equivalent of using "Frick" a lot?
in the ass = situation is fricked.
Whenever someone on /k/ makes a parody of telegram speech, there is inevitably someone who ends up saying something pretty close to it.
No they really do use it a shit ton. These are menus from Sochi when they had the olympics there.
That seems plausible. I hate it the same way I hate allau akbar but then you stop and think how much
>Jesus christ
>oh my god
>holy shit
are. Frick is just nice because it's neutral and variable whereas ass-fricking is scatological and akbar is bad panic and good celebration so it's overused.
Not to mention when "Frick" is overused in just the right way, it can become strangely hilarious.
I can't find it now, but htere's a Kurdish soldier who speaks no English but has worked with American soldiers who did an impression of them. Texan drawl with a lot of "oh shit" and "frick frick frick."
It gets really funny and weird when you consider "xui", which is just a curse for penis (basically a male version of "c**t", because "dick" is less powerful as a curse when compared to "c**t"). But the thing is, xui can be used literally everywhere, its kind of like corn syrup. "Axuyel" is basically "based", but direct translation would be "dick-y". "Naxuy" is the exemplary curse, which basically means "to-dick", or for a more meaningful translation, pretty much telling someone to go ("idi") crawl up a penis. Its also can get a ton of vulgar, but non curseword variations that could be used for every day scenarios. The best example would be this sentence: "Naxuya daxuya prixuyareli? Xuyarit naxui!", which basically means "why did you take so much? Take it away!", or more exactly "wienering-why wiener-much wiener-take? wiener-take it to wiener".
Not to defend Russian military practices, which are abysmal, but any overstretched military can be forced into using small units as a "trip wire," to hold back an enemy attack.
The US had to do this with the infamous "Charlie Company," who was tasked with defending a huge area against what ended up being a regiment + attack. IIRC the company had like 180 men to start the night, at the end three survived, two taken prisoner who later escaped, both wounded, and one left for dead who crawled to the closest ROKs, unable to walk.
But the difference there is that the men were told why they had to be in such a precarious position. When the attack came, the commander asked for permission to retreat, was told why they couldn't and needed to slow the progress of the enemy. They defended their positions until overrun, the fee survivors retreated in the darkness and mounted another last stand, and the gap was filled in time to prevent a total collapse in the line.
Russia doesn't have them men for such a large front, so men being in terrible positions is necessary. However, the way they do this is absolutely not
As an aside, historians will also talk about how liberal democracies can't offer the same sort of stubborn resistance as autocracies. For example, Hastings argues this over and over in his kaleidoscopic Inferno on WWII. But this actually doesn't appear to be the case. Overall, Americans defended their positions in the Pacific with incredible resolve, often to the point of being completely overrun. Corrigador is an example where there is absolutely no chance of rescue, hellish conditions, and yet a last stand even before the depth of Jap depravity to prisoners was known. So, I don't think this thesis actually holds. If anything, both American and Japanese soldiers preformed far better at this is some key placed than Germans and especially Soviets, who were held in place by threats of execution for retreat. Although, this also made the Pacific hellish.
>Autocracies having "Muh stubborn resistance"
The soldiers in those places know their leaders don't give a shit about them. Putin's conscripts certainly know it.
>If anything, both American and Japanese soldiers preformed far better at this is some key placed than Germans and especially Soviets, who were held in place by threats of execution for retreat. Although, this also made the Pacific hellish.
I think this is also because the Pacific fighting took place almost entirely on Islands. Where exactly are you going to retreat to? It is physically possible if somewhat inadvisable for German and Soviet soldiers to simply walk home from the front lines and I think this knowledge played some small role in their mental calculations.
>historians will also talk about how liberal democracies can't offer the same sort of stubborn resistance as autocracies
How do people still come to this conclusion after the fierce resistance offered by France in WW1? Or Britain and the US during WW2.
Not to mention USSR had Lend-Lease clearly behind it. They're just kissing the Soviets' ass.
ass you say
I will die on the hill of being pissed that we can't post gore on a blue board. Ass in ass posting demands the use of the legendary disembodied Russian ass laying on the grass from the first days of the invasion.
i remember that being one of the first things i saw when i learned in the morning shit was going down. grim but the funniest gore i've ever seen, never knew explosions could deglove someone like that, let's not even mention the spine still sitting in the driver's seat
I still remember the gore of the cute little puppies feeding on an occupier's abandoned corpse (STILL disgusting how Russians ABANDON their dead. Pathetic! Fricking barbarism)
it really impresses me that even most armies in ww2 were pretty good at retrieving their dead, and russians in the 21st century just make no effort at all, many corpses from the start of the war are still just lying down, hell many corpses from the ww2 red army are still being dug up in massive amounts.
russians truly make great fertilizer, i get why ukrainians emphasise that so much.
Very much the same for me. It still remains one of the single funniest gore I've seen from the war so far.
>let's not even mention the spine still sitting in the driver's seat
I'm just glad I'm not the only one that was blown away by the surreal shit that was that video. Shit was a warning for the whacky brutal shit this war would bring all along.
The ass is in the grass and everything is known.
>we can't post gore on a blue board.
Skill issue
THE ASS IS IN THE BAG
Fricking 10/10 edit, you legend.
>lust provoking image
you sly dog
don't you imagine some fricking /d/ gay will turn this gored ass into a 3D printer onahole some years down the line?
Obviously Natalya would be on the Russian nationalist dissident unit...
Agreed. Some of the shit you frickers write has me howling
beautiful, now we can ask trollfarma Z employees working for 40k rubl a month exactly what the status is.
Gherkin status?
I have no doubt Girkin is b***hing about "We need to raise even more men", never mind the fact Russia is effectively out of fricking TIME to train them kek.
Ukraine's coming after them now. Time's up.
>yes young ppl, die for my novoroossyia wet dreaam
fricking scum of a man. Hope he is walked to the gallows before the war is over.
In pain.
When are Prigozhin and Girkin linking up?
>war criminals
>kgb veterans
>doomers
>mass mobilization enthusiasts
>hate the people in the Army
Problem is, they also hate each other. I think Gordy thinks Pringles is an opportunist and reversed, a has-been with a fan club.
Prigozhin and Girkin linked up, feed it or sneed it??
>kgb veterans
Prig isn't a glowie, he's protected by them at best. His career path was pimping underage girls, then pimping his ass in prison, then catering.
He is a former FSB officer and fought in almost every modern russian proxy war (Chechnya, Transnistria, Bosnia, Eastern Ukraine)
Are you mixing up Girkin and Prigozhin?
Look it up
Prigozhin is a literal nobody, got imprisoned and then worked as a chief of Putin
Both Prigo and Gen. Sdalherson are KGB assets and have been since the 80s.
They could make the funniest podcast of all time if they were willing to.
What celebrity couple nickname would you pick? Prigokin? Girzhin?
>Gherkin status?
He shaved his head and threw some shit at Putin in his last video
It really is amazing just how MUCH the Russians fight each other.
The Chechen, Girkin, Prozakobitch, the woodcarver, etc.
It's actually the most human thing about them. Infighting in times of crisis is a very human thing to do.
It's also a massive sign of a non-existent chain of command & poor discipline.
The Ukrainian infighting has been comparatively tame. I think it has something to do with the whole, "We're all gonna be genocided if we don't work together" thing.
It's due to how Ukraine and Russia are organized. Russia is an empire with a King and dukes with their own armies. The King wants the Dukes to be fighting each other and to never unite so they can overthrow him. Ukraine is a proper modern state with proper command structure.
Basically a Westerned Slavic nation....which terrifies the Russians of course, lol.
"MUH NUMBERS" don't count for shit if the defense lines are so long and thin, they cannot hold.
Or put another way, Putin is trying to defend EVERYTHING (Bakhmut, Belogrod, South, etc.). The man does not know when to make the hard choices when it comes to resource conservation. It is, again, too many fronts for Russia to try to hold with fricking idiots.
>2 more weeks and the Ukies will be in Meriopol and Crimea will be DOOMED
Maybe faster than that. I'm going to guess Russian lines will evaporate fast due to awful morale.
who are you quoting?
And in a hilarious bit of irony, the war has allowed Ukraine to tackle their very serious corruption issues (to a point).
Of course. When your opponent trying to genocide you is corrupt, you naturally try NOT to be corrupt for the sake of survival (and hatred of your enemy).
When corruption endangers one's very existential survival as a people, it is the nature of one to try to improve.
I fully approve of Ukraine having "Jaegar" units. It's a way to repudiate the Soviet/Vatnik "Guards" designation. That and "Jaegar" sounds much cooler.
It's a feature of dictatorships.
He looks like Bill Murray in The Life Aquatic now.
Pickle is in the ass, comrade
>[ ] Somebody knows something
>[ ] Nobody knows nothing
I already lost
Makarivka next, Novodarivka and Levadne also under AFU (not confirmed yet)
I'm calling it. Russians will be routed. The Ukrainians simply have better leadership and motivation. Russians don't want to fricking die.
Not yet. Russians actually dug in this time. However, after ukies reach the last line of defence, then the rout begins. From what I recall, all lines in total are 20km in depth. We're half way there almost
>2 more weeks
> However, after ukies reach the last line of defence
Ukies haven’t even reached the first line of defense lmao
Are you autistic? Post latest rybar 🙂
They're already through it fren
>source? I made it up
:^)
Where do people think the "First" and "Last" line of defense are?
There are certainly earthworks as far south as the beaches around Mariupol, so where is the "Last" line?
And there were earthworks and troops as far north as the point of contact, was that the "First" line of defense, or does it not count?
Aren't Mariupol and Melitipol both heavily riddled with Ukrainian partisans, lol?
No, partisans are mostly outside the big cities.
Not saying there aren't some holdouts, but Russians usually went hard on purging the population of Mariupol especially. Everyone with a hunting license or suspected of not being a Soviet fan got "processed" and their property given to Tajiks.
Woah! What a based savior of the white race Monke keeps being!
There isn't a proper "last" line of defense, but it's not possible for every position to be manned 100% all the time, so at some point a unit is going to fail to fall back properly and that'll mark the "last" line of defense for that area.
In general? Lines of defense all the way back, at some point becoming lesser (territory captured since 2022 but not prioritized, think fields away from main roads around Mariupol or whatever) then becoming a lot stronger as we get into Crimea or Donetsk. Which positions are manned properly and thus dangerous or manned by moronic mobiks and thus trivial will depend on Russian strategy.
It's over. Russia wins.
Is this supposed to be the first line, or all the lines?
all the lines
That's it? It won't be nearly enough, lol.
>Russians don't want to fricking die.
Too bad. Lmao.
Defense in depth, Westoids can't comprehend*~~
how far is this from something actually relevant like tokmak? how long until such locations fall under artillery coverage?
>omg my side took two huts and a field of wheat were winning
Nothing has happened in like 6 months wtf is going on
Tension has been building. Now it is released and soon everything will become understood.
Gloves are in the ass. Eybrows will understand everything
Zisters i feel soo bad... i need to see at least 6 same images of wrecked ukrainian convoy to recover.
Is this the /k/ope thread?
Do any actual professional units stand in Ukraine's way, or is this a rabble?
Rabble. VDV (lol) is in bakhnut, Wagner are recruiting the last hobos in Russia, and the Chechens are filming tik toks somewhere either east side of bakhmut or way behind lines
Yeah........Russia's gonna be routed bad. A horde of exhausted low-morale rabble cannot hold against freshly trained units who haven't even seen COMBAT yet.
what first line defense doing?
>what first line defense doing?
dying
mobiks first line, then serious units after that.
>mobiks first line
do these homies just exist to let Russia know that an attack is happening when they all get fricking killed and stop sending radio messages or what?
The idea of the 1st line is let the others know an attack is happening, and if the 1st line runs, reinforcements can attack the exhausted Ukrainians.
BUT, the Ukrainians can always precision-strike the reinforcements long before they get anywhere near them.
Yeah that was their sort of defense in depth strategy. Have multiple lines, pull back, have the next line be the counter attack that takes back the last line.
Except they haven't been able to take them back, probably because the fights are taking place on such short and fast time scales. The Ukrainians aren't exhausted because they're keeping a solid tempo.
The Ukrainians simply fight better, especially against untrained rabble with shitty morale.
I think this counteroffensive is going to end up a "no contest" in the end. The Russians used up the best pieces on the chess board WAY too early in the game, Ukraine held their pieces back.
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN /misc/ZIZTERZ!!!??? WE SENT SO MUCH ENERGY TO THE RUSSIANS WITH OUR LEOPARD SPAM! SAVE US SAM HYDE!
GUYS
Why is there snow?
nuclear winter friendo, it came early
Because Russia is just Africa with snow.
just like the unpredictable weather in Denver
Snows whenever it wants to snow
>We had to run away
>But we killed 6 gorillion hohols
Why is it always the same story with them?
I do wonder though.
Will Wagner dare try to halt Ukraine's counteroffensive? Is Wagner game to fight Ukraine a second time?
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b1e9b733-f8bd-4994-847a-35f200c89a6e
Why do you frickers think that Wagner is some super elite force with tens of thousands of Uruk-hai just waiting to be unleashed? Prigozhin was freaking out because they were about to collapse and he needed an excuse to withrdaw. Wagner is going back to Mali because they lost like 75% of their army in Bakhmut. 20 guys with tryhard patches can't do shit.
I never said Wagner was an "elite force". I merely asked if Wagner was going to dare try to oppose Ukraine at its FULL power, or if Prozakb***h would make up some excuse to not get involved.
He talks tough but I want to see him send Wagner to its final doom.
Wagner's DEAD. As in most of their soldiers are in fricking GRAVES. There IS NO MORE WAGNER. It's GONE.
I think a mere 6,000 remain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65871232
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prigozhin-says-wagner-will-not-sign-any-contract-with-russian-defence-minister-2023-06-11/
Oh no ZZZbros, what will happen now!?
Oh even worse than I thought. Wagner has been used and now they're being discarded. Anything left will just be absorbed into the army. Another PMC for bullying Africans will be made.
Sounds like Putin is grasping for every man possible and to eliminate Prigozhin being too meddlesome and vocal.
Pringles needs to leave Russia and take his remaining Special Snowflakes with him.
So nothing
more gains
>zaporozhye region of the russian pederation
clown country
>Of the Russian Federation
In ancient times, theft was punished by hands being cut off.
zisters whats our response???
>gains in the pubic region
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
the pubes are being shaved*~~
Millions of pubes gays cried out in terror and went silent.
offensive plan leak
very credible, thank you! john from ohio oblast.
>leak
You mean a russian telegram post about what they think the plan is
In case you Black folk are too lazy to open google map.
Yeah I'm thinking 2 weeks tops.
Potentially big- liveuamap is reporting that a railroad bridge got blown on the way to melitopol
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/11-june-railway-bridge-was-blown-up-in-yakymivka-of-zaporizhzhia
Oh, nice. There aren't a lot of railway links between the current frontline in Zaporizhzhia and Russian-controlled territory in Crimea.
Actually, that might be the only one that isn't dangerously exposed to some kind of artillery already.
Russians are getting worried about this failed offensive for some reason
>It is clear that after Neskuchne the enemy moves on, and our units, with a lack of forces, could go lower to a more fortified defense line due to flank attacks by enemy units. From the field they report that reinforcements are needed to level the situation.
There is no panic
>68th jaeger brigade
Hold on a second is this Russian WW2 larp or does Ukraine really have jaeger units now?
Yeger is just a hunter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/68th_Jaeger_Brigade_(Ukraine)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/71st_Jaeger_Brigade_(Ukraine)
Yeah but it's a German word which denotes light infantry units since those were made out of hunters 200 years ago. Just find it funny the Ukrainians adopted the term.
Jäger is adopted as a term in various european countries which were created vai the prussian style military school.
It means hunter
You do realize the germs went around training every army around who had cash right? A lot of the naming just kind of stuck.
Damn they actually seem to be making decent progress for the first few days.
If this thing works out for them I'm going to be so sucking smug at the mouthbreathing mongoloid russian semen guzzlers who spammed the board.
The bulk of the raiding came from bunkerchan, a bit from /misc/ but the /misc/Black folk are somehow easy to distinguish.
Seems like the Russian strategy is to take villages and defenses head on while the Ukrainian strategy is to go around them
16 months into a war and you've only now noticed that Ukraine doesn't take cities in battles street by street but forcing Russians out while Russians spent 14 months going through three cities?
Going around them is what you are supposed to do. Urban fighting is costly in manpower and resources and ruins the city which you presumably want to annex. Getting bogged down in urban fighting is a tactical failure in itself. It shows that the attacking army lacks the ability to mound mechanized assaults.
Since last Summer, every time the Russians tried to do advanced with achieve breakthroughs with mechanized troops, either their logistics broke down or they got ambushed. They had an advantage in artillery though so they resorted to basic WW1 style tactics of shelling enemy positions than sending in infantry to capture them. Which "works" but it's not a sustainable.
ziggersisters?!
Ukies took the hills yesterday all those villages are below turning them into kill zones. The entire area is fricked.
0 chance
If Russia loses the rails to Melitopol they lose Crimea as well. Everything west of Mariupol is an automatic loss once the Ukrainians manage to reach that area and prevent Russian supply from coming through.
Russians see killing every man under 40 as an acceptable price to prevent that from happening. And Putin doesn't think it's acceptable, he thinks it would be a bargain deal.
Anon the only reason why vatnik lines are not melting right now is because of mine fields.
Time to bring in some more Igor Harvesters to snibeti snab thru them.
Correct. They're much smarter than Vatniks. They just take the higher ground and blast the enemy, forcing him out. They do not waste time in urban combat unless they must.
Even fricking Bakhmut had them holding the outside flanks, forcing the Russians to move through the path of MOST resistance.
Holy shit, they are cutting through defense lines like knife through butter. If this picture is right, they have potential to flank all the way to zavitne. If they managed to get that far, its unironically over. Tokmak is not far away from there and I doubt defensive lines are as strong there either
forgot pic
Russia lost already lost Levadne too
Heh nothing personel xoxols
Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips
Hammer and anvil strategy, classic maneuver, they'll never penetrate these defensive lines
I miss meme arrow maps. Bakhmut was practically absent of all this since everything was moving 10 meters a day.
Never forget Russia's early war maps.
As it turns out only driving across roads and around cities doesn't take the territory.
They were quite fricking deluded when they tried that.
But observe this, they were not drawing cope stripes in russia kek
Holy shit Johnny, western cities are jumping
Oh good, now they have to repeat this trick for a hundred times and they'll win! Ziggers BTFO!
Yes, it's called war. Turns out you need to do mare than kill one tank and spam the picture everywhere.
Yes defeating your enemy is usually the point of a war.
You already did this with Kharkiv and Kherson do you want to get BTFO 3rd time?
>spam a single tank kill in which the crew survived
“RUSSIA STRONK NATO IS FINISHED UKRAINE WILL BE BEATEN IN TWO WEEKS”
>Ukraine actually makes substantial gains
“Heh, you call THAT winning? Pfft you’re nothing!”
How can someone be this disingenuous?
>/misc/ still thinks their posts affect reality
The 2016 election fricking destroyed that board
khohols will now understand that the ass is in the ass means a double cauldron
>ASS
My sides are in the ass
Now I understand why it is called Operational art.
>"Muh Cauldron"
Oh Ukrainians aren't going to waste time with that fricking shit. They're just going to ROUT the Russians and shoot them while they flee.
>tfw I have a hard time visualizing all this since I can't remember all these small Ukrainian towns for shit.
you'll know the ass is in the ass when the ukrainians push up to springfield
HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN SISTERS WE SPAMED THAT VIDEO WE SHOULD BE WINNING!?!?!
Just me or does it feel like we're about to see some regrooping/feinting/tactical advancing backwards
Maybe even a gesture of good will, one might say?
Clown emoji is back, baby
>APU managed to advance in the direction
A wild APU appears
You must be shitting me!!, I expected more competency from russians on fortified positions this can't be true.
Also ukies have been training NATO standars only for some months I expected them behaving more vatnik-eske.
I wish they do but I'm not getting my hopes too high.
It's the lack of experience, lack of morale, and incompetent commanders on the Russian side.
Ukrainians have been described by their NATO instructors as "extremely eager to learn". Revenge is one hell of a motivator.
May we be as driven in a war with "Mainland" China.
Godspeed for them then, I hope they can force some goodwill gestures from russia at the very least.
>Ukraine took Harvest
>ALERT! THE ENEMY HAS CAPTURED OUR CONTROL POINT!
>Ukrainians took Harvest
APU is the Covenant, confirmed. When are we seeing the CSS Shadow of Intent deployed in-atmosphere?
can't believe russia has given up the fortress cities of blahodatne and neskuchne
Uh oh
Tempo?
It's about that time again
ready to open my K meme folders
These are just a shitty 5 rural houses "towns" LMAO check the overall map they advanced NOTHING. A counter offensive with western equipment, training and intel and you only managed to took 3 farms LOL
I guess you guys have nothing to worry about then, right?
Just a feint?
Isn't that the precursors to wargame?
yes
>ukraine is winning russia too slowly xaxa*~~
/pol/ZIZTERS, WE SPAMMED SO MANY THREADS ABOUT THAT TANK! HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING!? HOW HOW HOW HOW??!
SPAM THE TANK PICTURES AGAIN
Piggers are doing it again.
>Piggers are doing it again.
Causing mass panic among mobiks?
I was curious enough to check:
>Neskuchne
>Last census in 2001
>Population: 733
Serious question /k/.
If this war was made into a video game, what would it look like?
This maybe? Combine FPS with RTS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlezone_(1998_video_game)
It already exists as a video game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1502380/Combat_Mission_Black_Sea/
Yeah but I want more strategy worked in. Command your forces in real-time while shooting Vatniks.
The best of both worlds.
>Command your forces in real-time
Sadly this never took off much. The only mainstream games that still does this these days is Mount&Blade.
Ukraine didn't exist when they did this. I would'v assumed Ukraine new post-2014 army would use British or Canadian naming conventions since they trained them the most.
Same. I fricking LOVED being able to command and build while still firing a weapon. I frequently shot enemy vehicles to commander them.
The genre needs a revival already.
>Genre never took off
Just make the game about a bunch of very hot chicks who fight in battle. Gamers will show up for the butts and boobs.
Since Wagner just openly DEFIED the Russian military's edict, is civil war about to break out in Russia? Both of them fricking hate one another.
What's the current ass status in Belgorod oblast, anyway? I haven't heard anything from the Free Russian memelords since the counteroffensive started.
Afaik they're essentially just sitting on the border towns and calling the ziggers homosexuals and daring them to try and take 'em back.
the great russian rooster's cloaca is merely being probed, we shall wait until the wieners stick there entire hand and once they clasp the egg inside, we will slam our butthole shut with mighty force and deglove the dills. the eyebrow is being combed and readied. the grain is being eaten.
gandalf from azov:
" We already have results
Then there should be more
And they will.
Because we will not deviate from our path"
Yeh, even the finger doesnt make it exciting no more. I really hoped Ukraine would show smth after 9months of preparation, the entire Western world helping, billions of dollars in weapons and training - but they are just to moronic. Ukraine is done and we know it for over a year now.
At least show some sportsmanship and throw everything you have into the battle.
It is the last shit you get.
Then why are sub-Black vatBlack person rochaes like you still trying to post this shit demoralisation propaganda?
If Ukraine is oh so finished, there's nos snese to your moronic doomposting anymore and you should just frick off. Or kys, that'd be lovely, too.
oh god oh frick
it appears the AFU might be making their way downtown, they seem to be walking fast as faces pass, i think they're homebound.