I believe a one year conscription for basic training in a variety of subjects from age 17-18 would be great for America.
I know conscription forces are dogshit, keep a professional army. Just teach people something useful for one year, gun basics, first aid, drill fitness habits into them.
ok boomer
I would be happy getting gays out of the classroom.
Also you sound gay.
It probably wouldn't hurt, but also it would just turn into another year of high school for morons and Black folk.
But it would filter mentally ill zoomers from owning guns, while making people learn first aid and gun basics. Less mass shootings.
How exactly would it filter mentally ill zoomers from owning guns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_testing
You could’ve mentioned psychological testing in your original post
I thought it was implied
They do that even for driver licenses
Where? I didn’t have to.
No one in America does. Probably a British thing.
You didn't get a Prozac script with you driver's license?
Nope. Prostate exam, he said it was mandatory.
We get one of those on penis inspection day. instead.
except that they don't
Maybe you should get a gun before developing an opinion, euro.
>psychological testing
>they do that even for driver licenses
>many such cases
>so I've heard
>everyone is talking about it
Please go be underage somewhere else.
There's no psychological testing to join the military in the US. As long as you don't tell your recruiter or doctor about your secret desire to kill foreigners there is nothing to stop the crazies from getting in.
considering the massive suicide rate of soldiers, mental health in the military is a joke. What makes you think they can successfully filter out the mentally ill?
A lot of loonies tend to drop out of service or are discharged.
Dunno about Murrica but at least here in Finland schizos have extremely hard time staying hidden in ordered garrison life.
Any stories to share?
its pretty easy to hide
In my country it was very common during mandatory conscription that folks shot up other conscripts. My grandfather specialised as a medic, and one guy drunk tried to stab him when they were hauling him to the barracks, and my father's high school friend got shot while some other guy went insane, killed 4 people and then himself. Shitty argument
they are already all on meds anon, fricked harder than gen y
I'm not
>I believe
Better make it co-ed for maximum fuggin' n suggin'
It's a good idea. And like all good ideas, the American public would violently oppose it.
>I know
>homeguard
easy lay
Considering the decline of families, churches, tight knit-neighborhoods, and the public education system, I'd argue it's almost necessary just as a way to properly socialize people.
>properly socialize people
Like the 24/7 apartment dog that goes to the dog park for the first time and gets raped like a Russian conscript by a German Shepherd.
oddly specific
could have picked a better breed than german shepard anon. they are so dysgenic the cops dont even want to use them now.
>getting raped by inbreds
No, I got it right.
Hey, are you that HR b***h behind all the "mandatory fun" and "team building" at workplaces these days? Go away, no one likes your shit.
>properly socialize people
(You) should write a book. I'll bet (You) have a lot to say about how "other people" should think and behave,
Replacing god and the paternal family figure with the state is the reason for most of our social woes. All conscription would do is make that even the normal self-reliant people develop an unhealthy deference on the government, and that's how you end up with euros.
Marines are religious
>implying the military holds any type of ethical value to teach
It's easier to hit them in the head with a shovel than teach them things, that type of stuff is reserved to officers, not the scum that enters conscription
So basically you have no idea of what happens during conscription service. Ok gotcha.
>tight knit-neighborhoods
I knit my own neighborhoods
>i think forced employment by the government is a good thing
>implying it won't be a blm troony brainwash session in between equity sessions of physical education
it won't, you just change your opinion about the military depending what's the color of the party in charge
Agreed, frick left vs right politics. Look into Lemonparty.
hell yeah brother. Im really surprised Don Lemon started his own Libertarian party.
https://lemonparty.com/
"No."
Your belief has no support besides your (ignorant) feefees and it's clear you never studied the draft era. Frick you for having an uninformed opinion and frick you twice for posting it.
>Your belief has no support
It does, it's called Scandinavian countries
>muh draft
you're not getting called to die in a tropical jungle Black person
>Scandinavian countries
So we've come full circle an Soishalizm is t3h Good now.
Check.
>1945
Checked
How is making zoomers not being useless leechers who get groomed into being discord trannies while trying to make it by streaming fortnite socialism?
>trying to make it by streaming fortnite
whatever works, darling. welcome to capitalism.
>whatever works, darling
Conscription it is then
what scandinavian countries have conscription again (apart from Finland)?
Norway
Finland is not Scandinavia.
Denmark also have conscription.
Every American knows that Finland is the capitol of Holland, don't be condescending.
Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland
One year voluntary civic service would be better. Let the 18 year old choose anything from Marine Rifleman to public librarian, park ranger, lifeguard, coast guard, ambulance driver, garbage man etc etc etc for 18 months. Each service could come with its perk. Choosing the military route gives you an AR-15 that's yours for life. Park ranger, national and state park kids get access/campsites for life. after 12 months they qualify for 24 months of GI bill. This way the kid can do 2 years of community college on tuition assistance (ideally online/remote while doing their time) and walk away with a bachelors degree completely free, with job experience and actual pride in the country they helped maintain.
>Choosing the military route gives you an AR-15 that's yours for life
M16
FTFY
I like this idea. No one knows exactly what they want to do right out of high school so it would be good to give them some experience
I knew I wanted the frick away from any government organized activities after putting up with that shit my whole adolescent life.
move to africa. only there will you be free to live away from the terror of government.
This
Move to Liberia or something bro, lolbert paradise
Shut up, gay. That sounds like some cliched bullshit a fat high school social studies teacher would regurgitate.
It can be optional, but the benefits will be too good to pass up unless you're a richgay
That just removes workers from the workforce into makework nonsense when they should be building careers.
>18 year old
>building a career
Nah, putting them around people who have already built careers and letting them see what the real world is like for a couple years is ideal
Proofs beside your feefees? Actual conscription worked badly.
what 18-20 year old kid is accomplishing anything in today's America that isn't either in the military or enrolled in college and completing a 4 year degree? They're sitting around playing video games failing to be streamers living with their parents.We could use 18-20 year olds for menial manual labor that needs done one way or another, and pay them the same or less than illegal immigrants in exchange for job training/experience and the option of a free ride to any college/trade school they can get admitted to. If you're one of those diehard "EVERYONE SHOULD BE IN THE TRADES" folks, join the army for a year/18 months as a welder, get out and use your bennies to pay for trade school. You know the GI bill pays for flight school?
Librarians, rangers, coast guards, ambulance drivers, garbage men… are all more important to society than your made up careers. Nobody cares about white collar jobs.
Conscription only works in a white (or asian) healthy population.
In the US it would just turn into a weight loss camp for beaners and various shades of muttoids.
Service for college is basically what the US military is already about.
Didn't work well for the US either but I'm the only one ITT who actually studied conscription, the late draft era in the US and the horrorshow brig system required to maintain discipline.
How the frick do you so called military enthusiasts not know these things?
Their "military enthusiasm" means painting maps in video games and painting warhammer soldiers irl
I like this idea, like an apprenticeship with benefits if you decide to stay or go
Yes, nit please capitalize Public Librarian. We got masters degrees to be here, so the 18 yo's would be more like Library Pages. It's a funny system
Throw in some sort of job title for infrastructure repair where you learn skills like welding, plumbing, etc and I'd say this is a literal perfect system.
Which is why we will never see anything like it
Used to have mandatory service in Germany.
Should really bring it back.
I believe that sending children to a Catholic church school from the ages of ten to twelve would make every American a better person and teach them the right things that they need to understand about life. It would prepare them for the realities they will face when conscripted into mandatory military service upon completing high school.
My arbitrary values must be forced into everyone else's life or the world is doomed. Anyone who disagrees with me needs to be executed to end harmful dissention.
> t. OP is the ragingist of homosexuals and should be conscripted to wear a massive dildo in his ass for at least one year to teach him the True Way of the homosexual.
>I believe that sending children to a Catholic church school from the ages of ten to twelve would make every American a better person
Nice try, Father Diddleman
Someone doesn't understand what freedom is.
Nice try communist.
yeah, freedom is letting zoomers fricked in the head roam around cutting their wieners off
have a nice day
Everyone who lives in a country with conscription will tell you that it is a complete waste of time that's only good for enhancing your boozing skills.
>Everyone who lives in a country with conscription will tell you that it is a complete waste of time that's only good for enhancing your boozing skills.
Not what austrians, germans and finns told me
>West got cool and civilised conscription, with cool equipment, decent conditions and competent officers
>Eastern block got beatings, suicides, alcoholism and friends for life
I liked it, now i'm in the Home Guard shooting the 84mm Carl Gustav twice a year, pretty chill.
And the mp7 is a fun little bugger too.
t. Norwegian
It was a good use of my time that taught me many valuable lessons and helped keep my country safe.
t. Swede
>Safe
>Rape capital of western world
Pick one, if your muslim bull gives you permission
>lolberts scared shitless at the prospect of not being worthless neets
lmao
>Wow, another year of highschool with all the morons who couldn't figure out how to dodge it
>BUT WITH GUNS
Whatever highschool you went to, I wish I went there
>>Wow, another year of highschool with all the morons who couldn't figure out how to dodge it
>>BUT WITH GUNS
That sounds fricking cool
Conscription is bad for the economy. It costs government funding to train people with skills they probably won't use, repeatedly, instead of letting them go to work or school.
You're the economy, not Wall Street.
>trust anecdotes, not statistics
In a perfect world, yes. But it would never fly in America. You can't force people to handle a gun. And then there is the question of who will pay for it all? And why do it at all if you can't force the kids to fight in a war if something arises. It's all-around just a waste of money.
Everyone in this thread is a gay
Irony.
I agree a mandatory fat camp could help the “obesity crisis” ie freedom crisis
No it wouldn't.
1) there's too many of them. Taking that number of young people out of the civ pop would be expensive; paying for the expenses of training them (instructor wages, gear, facilities, habitation, food, medical, etc.) in the context of the existing military-industrial-congressional complex would be ruinous.
2) if you put them through selection to choose a manageable number, the GQP will try to insert their politics into the selection while simultaneously claiming the dems are doing the same. Selection would degrade into an endless quagmire that would retain the least desireable conscripts.
3) there's no long term benefit from it unless you continue giving them refresher training down the line. Skills atrophy in abscense of training or use.
4) it's unsuitable for the self-centered american culture. The idea of having to give up your freedom for a year when you feel that you don't owe your country anything would be met with fierce backlash. Morale would be a gigantic issue.
5) it'd take up human resources better used for training and maintaining the existing professional and reserve forces. Good instructors and leaders don't grow in trees.
6) the budget would be embattled every budget season. There would be cuts and raises, ups and downs. The system would degreade into a massive patchwork of disparate, ill-fitting equipment, processes and solutions due to being forced to adjust to having no money for uniforms one year, and having a billion dollars' worth of ultra-fancy combat boots rammed down its throat the next.
7) it would further stir up inter-service rivalry. The drain on manpower would force them to compete for talent, much like higher employment numbers do in the civilian economy. Fighting for resources would cause further pointless up- and downswings in the budgets of the branches of the military, further degrading their capabilities.
Since you can afford a professional army, and it works okay, stick with it.
>the GQP
You don't own guns
Listen queer, I'll call your CO and tell them you have a Gadsden Flag tattoo and that you think the DEI training is bullshit. Get outta the fricking thread zoomed lib zog gay.
Required military does make the average citizen feel like they have more of a personal stake in the direction of the country and sense of duty to it, there's a study of a Scandi country about it
They seem like pretty middling results to me
I wonder what happened here. They included Fiji and Armenia and Equador, but not Norway?
From the countries i know has mandatory conscription, looks pretty high
Look at that Finland
I spent like 5 minutes looking for Norway lmao
That poll is a couple years old, America number gotta be below 20 by now
Not everyone is a demoralized Black person like you
Post recruitment results
post guns
Russian conscripts may differ. A nordic country with the population of one one bushanka is hardly representative.
You people never had frens so you want conscripts so be with. Admit it.
No but there should be a short voluntary course that basically amounts to what a one year conscription would be
>Just teach people something useful for one year, gun basics, first aid, drill fitness habits into them.
How about teaching something actually useful to people instead of "scouts+", like how to manage finances, cook, or vocational skills
They also teach that in my country
>like how to manage finances, cook, or vocational skills
Should be taught in highschool
Sadly, the socialists itt want the State to raise and educate the youth into proper citizens and seem to think MANDATORY CONSCRIPTION is the answer because the hippies burning thier draft cards, the subsequent "ME" Generation and resulting polularity of DISCO was such a great thing for America. Total losers.
die boomer
Based state raise my children right for me proponent commie b***h.
correct millennials can't raise children and zoomers can't live in society
America's youth is like 70% shitskins, so I fully support conscription for the kino riots it will inevitably inspire, hopefully leading up to civil war
>America's youth is like 70% shitskins
yeah i also saw that hecking epic /misc/ infograph
also you don't own guns
What would be better is a year of National Labor Service. Camps, field work, hard labor to burn fat and learn to follow orders. It worked awesomely for the germans before ww2 and might solve some great infrastructure problems like all that bushery that keep catching fire near non-urban homes because noone can normally be assed to trim it. Then let the kids go to their high schools and colleges with deep suntans and lean waists. Remember... Arbeit Mach Frei.
you want this
fire service could be one of the services to join for 12-18 months
Anyone against this is a literal moron
>inb4 muh freedumbs to choose be a NEET failure
frick off lolbert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGa6BPj3Mcw
Frick you. There's enough whiny, "i don't want to be here", lazy frick ups in the military as is. That's with everyone going out of their way to volunteer. I can only imagine the absolute frick show somebody who was actually forced to enlist would be.
>but they would learn a bunch of good stuff!
And promptly forget it. All those neato skills you just blew tens of thousands of dollars training them on are perishable. The minute they leave conscription those skills are no longer relevant. The brain, by design, is built to dump things it doesn't use.
>But refresher training!
And waste even more time and money on them? Your argument's basic weakness is that a conscript after 12 months is somehow useful. A private after one year in the professional force is at the level where they can do their specialty with direct supervision. To have any level of real proficiency takes years more of dedicated training. The military isn't some fricking moron camp where plug and play any random civilian and expect things to perform. Every fricking trend in modern warfare since the early 1940s has been for increasingly complexity in all levels of military operation. From strategic direction, all the way down to basic soldier skills. Everything takes more time to learn how to do, everything takes years how to learn how do well. By the end of their term, a one year conscript will be only barely more useful than a random frickwit you just pulled of the street. The era of the peoples' army is fricking gone. The professional force is the only way forward.
Your idea is fricking stupid and your pic is fricking shit.
>drill fitness habits
Little Bobby Wideload isn't going to stop shoving garbage into his face just because someone in a uniform told him not to for a year.
What kind of morons do you have in your armed forces? Normal people can handle their specialty after 4 to 6 months when supervised by conscript NCOs who've served about double of that.
So what you're saying is that it'd never work because 'murricans are incompetent morons?
Sounds like a bunch of horseshit. Outside very technical and involved tasks most MOS dont take long to train. Particularly combat ones. You can learn em in a couple of months, master it in a year or two.
I had an AIT that was a year plus all said and done and I was learning to to the job at the NCO level from the day I got to my unit. Don't overblow soldiering.
It should just be a regular and mandatory part of education, just like literacy and arithmetic.
On top of basic fitness, shooting and outdoor skills, it should include the very basics of crafts and machine culture - especially since zoomers seem to both treat machines as something normal and something magical and incomprehensible.
There is for some reason an extremely stark cutoff for kids starting around 2007 where computer literacy and technical skills take a nosedive compared to earlier generations.
Ah, I see the recroooters have finally given up on trying to get us to join their homosexual army and are trying to drum up general support for conscription. Good. I'd like to see you try it. Also frick you homosexual.
take your meds
Eat a dick gay.
If i wanted to boost recruit numbers i'd just bomb some building and blame on the chinese or russians, Black person
I want to increase the quality of life of the American population
Bomb what exactly? If WTC happened today all the people you want to recruit would be like, "good, frick those people."
I'm not the one hanging pride flags from every embassy.
>Bomb what exactly? If WTC happened today all the people you want to recruit would be like, "good, frick those people."
lmao, you homosexuals will literally never learn
We did learn, that's the problem. Well, it's your problem lmao.
zoom zoom zoomies
America was decadent before Pearl Harbor happened
America was decadent and recruiting numbers were low before 9/11 happened
Americans hate eachother but they hate foreign Black folk hitting America even more
>America was decadent before Pearl Harbor happened
and recruiting numbers were low as well, i might add
Kek, keep coping geriatric. Can't wait for you to try out conscription and see how that goes for you.
I was born in 2000 and i already did my conscription
Which country and what branch? Are you called up for yearly excercises?
Swedish Armed Forces, After completing training, conscripts are placed in the reserve and assigned positions in the TOE of a reserve unit
Do you have a branch for more motivated reserves? Here in norway we have the regular home guard which is basically reservists, just like in sweden i guess, but within the home guard we have a task force for the most motivated people who have more training days per year and gets priority in equipment.
Real mature, not even him.
For western militaries, conscription is waste of time, money, and resources. The army doesn't exist to "teach useful skills" the army's goal is to wage war in the most effective manner, and conscripts get in the way of that as conscripts make for shit soldiers.
This. What is the practical reason for spending literal trillions of dollars on teaching tens of million of young people skills that they don't need? Keep in those same young people are already deficient in skills they actually do need such as math, reading, science etc. We do need to tackle childhood obesity and mental health but waiting until kids are 18 and putting in them in some expensive summer camp where they waste their time doing useless (for a future civilian) land nav type shit is a nonsensical solution. Perhaps a year of service like
could make sense but only until after the boomers die. They don't deserve to live in a society where young people do free labor to make their lives better. I'd vote for the program if it started in 2040 or later.
Guess that depends on what kind of civilians you want. For the American government in 2022, you're exactly right, except they also don't want to tackle obesity or mental health, they'd rather exacerbate those issues.
Yes, but make it 2 years and you're allowed to forgo it if you forfeit your civil rights, same if you're kicked out.
That will never fly, if we switched it around to "only honorably discharged veterans are covered under civil rights laws" this will disproportionately benefit white men which are the main group supposed to be specifically excepted from civil rights law.
Yeah, it's too good of an idea for this world. Maybe after we rebuild after a collapse we'll go full Starship Troopers.
Starship Troopers unironically has the best system
Join to serve, join for your license to breed.
>filters genetic trash from breeding, voting and all the shit that actually matters
Awful lot of bootlickers ITT
>The government does things I don't like
>I'm going to become a lolbert to cope instead of trying to assist people with similar views to me obtaining political power
>he hates the current government and wants it toppled
>therefore he must be a lolbert
ok
>people who can't let go of the time wasted serving zog fantasize about forcing others to serve zog
lmao
dont worry im sure you losers can find some sort of strategy game to live out your power fantasies
Huh?
Man, that chick is gorgeous.
Still not joining the army though. Eat shit and call it caviar, sergeant.
>muh zog muh zog muh freedums
I’m just saying that there’s countries in Europe with lax gun laws where zoomers aren’t mentally ill and makes mass shootings every week
But if you want to keep being turned into Brazil, be my fricking guest moronic mutts
>forced service will magically turn america 80+% white again
moron zoomer mutt
No, it would put some sense into your zoomers like it happens in Europe
All nuAmerimutts do is smoke weed and cut their wieners off while planning a mass shooting
Why is it always about race with you guys?? There's plenty of upstanding Black folk and hispanics in the US because the culture is "be like us you'll get got"
Because they saw 2 /misc/ infographs and 5 little dark age videos
>buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword: the thread
it's all so tiring
Rangeban all non-American IP's
European posters have more guns than half of amerimutts in this board
Post guns and EU passport.
Post machine gun
And passport, moron.
>dat flintlock
Found the Time Traveler. Doesn't need a passport for that.
Not exactly the same thing, but I've said before that I think it'd be cool if there were a voluntary reserve that was constitutionally bound to ONLY be used for homeland defense or local disasters, and by joining it you'd be allowed to own NFA stuff.
That’s how the National Guard should be like
Make it voluntary and maybe not necessarily military, but some sort of civil or military service should be required for citizenship and to be able to vote.
>some sort of civil or military service should be required for citizenship and to be able to vote
This
>an iq over 110 and no traceable black ancestry should be required to vote
ftfy
>110
Don't let the midwits in anon. Sub 100 or 140+ only.
iq tests are fallible anon, Feynman wasnt 140+, we gotta be a little generous with leeway
i liked conscription
Me too
the only thing i disliked was the amount of estonian and russian rap ''music'' i had to hear in barracks
i fricking hate rap
what a stupid idea
>just teach people something useful for one year, gun basics, first aid, drill fitness habits into them.
yes, that would be super beneficial to the populace at large, you fricking invalid
Correct
Well yeah, US is miles ahead of the world in civilian gun familiarity but it wouldn't hurt to make that better
i mean maybe we can teach americans not to be so stupid? maybe teach them something they can put to use to earn a decent living? doesn't matter if they know how to shoot a fricking gun or not...i get that this is k, but jesus christ lmao
>half the Black folk in most cities can't read or do child's arithmatic
ah, we better teach those Black folk how to shoot guns
Lol this
>Millions of young people with no skills that enable them to compete in a globalized economy, no job prospects, no community ties, no property, no religion, TFW no GF, no kids etc...and then on top of all that weapons training and a government issued AR-15
The next round of BLM riots in the 2030s would be off the fricking chain
It would be complicated but probably some kind of test like starship troopers to determine which rol they'd like/be best at.
>k
>this reddit tier opinion
You all have to go back
Zoomers don’t even know how to interact with people in real life. The internet is basically designed so you can immediately remove yourself from all criticism and just surround yourself in an echo chamber, it'd be weird if a generation raised by it didn't turn out to be narcissists. Zoomers need to learn how to fricking act like a human, and yes i think the military is perfect for that
>more guns BAD
have a nice day
moron
>one year conscription for basic training in a variety of subjects from age 17-18 would be great for America
i think so too
let young people meet their fellow americans
let them mature, be less of whiny tiddy babbies
>They seriously think the average high schooler, who already barely pays attention, is gonna care enough to remember shit like basic first aid
All I remember from muhreen first aid training is that I was being evaluated on yelling a lot
This board has a delusional fixation on the military, just more idpol for gays desperate for a sense of belonging, but in this case that want to force others to be their friends in a proson-like environment
You don't understand only by giving the government more power can we get those young punks back in line and get them to act proper and save them from trannie propaganda.
Bit ironic really, it's like giving the fox the keys to henhouse to defend it from heffalumps and woozles.
No one will ever take you seriously lolbert
>no one will take you seriously
>in a thread about an idea that will never be taken seriously
Funny how his position is the default in America and yours is a movie inspired daydream
>his position is the default in America
Ah you're an election tourist, makes sense
Yeah
>voting for dudeweedlmao homosexuals
>voting at all
what a kek
>Implying the government wants capable citizens.
Starship troopers was always right
depends. can I get a freckly red hair green eyes cutie pie if I sign up?
a gril?
Personally I am a public librarian (with the necessary MS) and some of the high school kids I meet could do most of the desk portion of the job for me. They would be very useful in an apprentice type situation, which they're already in so we may well pay them. Unlimited city funds
Possibly. Do note however that the degree to which people in the military will take their training seriously is dependent on how many of them actually want to be there. My grandpa told me when he was doing his military service he managed to get promoted to lieutenant. He was put in charge of a couple dozen people and had them go camp for the night. It was cold and the ground was wet and muddy and nobody had any interest in being there until a higher ranking officer showed up and saw nothing had been accomplished. Needless to say, my grandpa was no longer a lieutenant after that day.
Putting people into military service could help those people learn some basic skills, sure, but it might also bring down the experience for people who are more serious about a military career. After all, my school, which had lower grades overall than the fancy school down the road, consistently had higher greek and latin grades for students' final exams than the fancy school that had mandatory greek and or latin classes, because it didn't force people into it, so the only people doing it were people who were passionate about the subject.
In reality, is the thing you're looking for not for the military to become another place where people learn life skills, but for schools to reform and become a place where people learn more useful skills?
>/k/ takes on societal issues
/k/ is nothing but armed morons
why are you here?
The only reason school results and intelligence quotas are dropping in the west is immigration, remove them and most institutions are doing just fine. What OP is asking for is basically mandatory boy scouts to learn practical skills, survivalism and build a sense of citizenship, things that really go beyond the world of education in an academic sense
the browns are right about the mountains tho.
instead of spending the resources to help their family, clan and race - moronic whitey has 1,5 kids resigned under israeli daycare and spending the rest of their resources on chinese mountain equipment to fulfill the israeli installed impulse that spending a shitload of money to climb a mountain as a gearqueer on a dedicated tourist track is somehow hugely courageous.
while in home country white is giving up more and more territory without resistance (flight from inner cities to suburbs)
Climbing a mountain is based if you're doing some shit no man has done before but spending a gorillion dollars to be person #9128 to summit Everest is just lame.
Thank you
to sum it up - the mountain climbing blogger is weakling full of vanity. the couple of good old boys who quietly buried a Black person in the woods for trying to sell drugs to their children are the real heroes
>can't even master basic spelling and maths
>IM GONNA SCOOOT
One can like guns without being a cgpa1.7 innawoods moron yknow
The two aren't mutually exclusive
or, in monosyllabic terms, you can like guns and do good in school
well, one can hope
>can't even master basic spelling and maths
Literally only a problem for colored people
I believe you want to relive the vietnam war riots.
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Everything you mentioned is in high school curriculum except maybe the gun portion, and some do have that.
The worse part of conscription is having useless people around that don't pull any weight, require tons of remedial training because they don't take anything seriously and they're afraid to do any real bullshit work like moving around heavy equipment. I mean I think I only did half as well as I did in the Army having unmotivated people or dumbasses around to make me look better in comparison. That sort of shit destroys morale. Everyone is going to get fricked over for their frick ups so you're constantly going to have instructors pissed off and not teaching what they're suppose to be teaching. Then people that don't want to be there pick conflicts with other people that do want to be there. So you get reprimanded even more. It just drags down professionals on every level till people snap and start hazing and then it drags down the profession even further.
Why even wait till 17-18?
There were organizations like boyscouts and girlscouts to teach these skills and ethics.
Conscription is only for defensive wars. Outside of that, you are a moron to use it as it overall will weaken you, lower the standards of the military/equipment/training, and will bleed your nation dry if used for expedition wars.
I'm sick of homosexuals like OP acting like they know shit.
It doesn't even need to be a year. 6 months of discipline at 17. You return home short before your 18th.
1. Americans could use all the exercise they can get
2. what if we took that money and spent it on something useful instead like repairing our shit infrastructure
We could Make America Great, Again! But that would be wrong.