I am constantly deathly afraid of accidentally discharging my firearms when cleaning.

I am constantly deathly afraid of accidentally discharging my firearms when cleaning. Or just generally handling them at all unless at the range. I always make sure to follow all the safety rules, but for example when I pull the slide off my M57, sometimes it's easier to turn it towards the side on my desk when removing bits and pieces off it. By doing so I usually flag my cat or someone on the desk next to me. Now I know there is no round in it, the trigger group is removed, but it still feels incredibly uncomfortable... How do I get over this?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk just don't be a b***h
    one time someone told me that they had a fear of getting randomly teleported into the ocean and then for a while I was scared of it too because like, you wouldn't know it'd just happen and then suddenly you'd be drowning and how do you know for 100% sure it's impossible? well you don't but you eventually just stop being afraid of it. anyway the moral of the story is my balls itch

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I once accidentally flagged someone with a crossbow and I still flash to it weekly. Just so embarrassed and ashamed of that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        at least you are responsible and aware of your own actions
        just try to accept that nothing happened and that you will do your best in the future. that's all any of us can do, our best. one time a BB ricocheted into my eye and caused an anterior chamber hemorrhage. I looked into the mirror and my eye was filled with blood. it resolved on its own and I regained full vision in the eye. I never think about it anymore, I just think about protecting my eyes in any scenario where there are debris flying about or when there's random poky shit coming for my eyes (like when I'm riding a dirtbike) anyway that's enough stream of consciousness posting for today hope you get over it anon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oof glad you're ok. Hope I will, it feels stupid, but at least it makes me always think thrice whatever I do.

          [...]

          quantum entangled barrel getting a round in it after a magazine has been removed. But hey, the M57 at least doesn't make me pull the trigger when disassembling

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They probably deserved it. Dont worry about it

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I solved this issue for myself by loading my revolver with snap caps, pointing it directly at my brain stem, and pulling the heavy double action trigger

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >constantly deathly afraid of accidentally discharging my firearms when cleaning
    Ummm how? Part of the cleaning process is clearing the chamber. Just remove the magazine/cylinder/clip and then pull the bolt/slide/pump to clear the only round that could still be inside. Like are you moronic?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I clear the chamber, I stick my finger down it, I take all the precautions. But it still somehow feels extremely uncomfortable to point the slide assembly anywhere until I get the barrel completely out.

      You need to just get it over with and pop one through your wall. Since ND is so common (was a weekly occurrence for me when infirst started carrying) it's better to just get it over with right when you get a new gun, that way you're used to it just going off and it doesn't scare you as much when it happens again. I still ND once or twice a month but it's not as scary of an experience now.

      How many cats have you gone thru.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That paranoia will keep you safe. It's not that bad to have.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        agreed, feels better with the barrel out of the slide even when it's off the frame.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you stick your finger down it?? just in case of those invisible rounds you sometimes get?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a good idea to double check. However if you've double checked and you're still not happy dry firing, you have a major psychological problem which is going to frick you hard if you ever get jumped by Tyrone.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need to just get it over with and pop one through your wall. Since ND is so common (was a weekly occurrence for me when infirst started carrying) it's better to just get it over with right when you get a new gun, that way you're used to it just going off and it doesn't scare you as much when it happens again. I still ND once or twice a month but it's not as scary of an experience now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based, this hero handles his guns. meanwhile whiny little girls are shitting themselves in fear with the gun sitting there. life is short, guns are inherently dangerous. you just have to accept that the gun might kill you, fear is the mindkiller.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do I get over this?
    You don't, all you have to do is follow the 4 Rules of Gun Safety at all times, and you'll be right as rain. Even pointing your gun while disassembling it is an excellent habit to have, and you're already doing better than most who, quite frankly, just don't give a frick. These are the people who end up with an ND, because they believe it won't happen to them. That fear you have is just you being a responsible gun owner. You fully understand the awesome power you wield when you pick up a gun, and that makes you worthy of it.

    One anon here a while back mentioned that as firearms enthusiasts, since we're around them all the time we begin to lax on good foundational habits that save our skin, and that's what causes shit to go south. Good on you for doing the right thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you, that makes me feel better, a little bit.

      I've probably fired around 4-5k rounds in my life so far, most 9mm and 7.62x25. Haven't had any incident. Except at the range twice I got a ricochet because the wall coating that's supposed to catch the bullets was worn down. Once it bounced of my jeans, and once it embedded itself in my leg, after that I started wearing safety glasses over my prescription ones.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're welcome man, never be ashamed of being a professional.
        >Once it bounced of my jeans, and once it embedded itself in my leg, after that I started wearing safety glasses over my prescription ones.
        Holy frick, that's fricking gnarly dude. Glad you didn't get maimed from it. Just more proof that indoor ranges are trash lmao.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well its a mostly noguns country so this is all I got. Shouldn't even shoot on my property. The nearest decent outdoor pistol range is about 100 miles away.

          I had to pull out the little lead piece out (thankfully it was just shallow enough to grab it with some very fine tweezers), it wasn't a whole bullet obviously (just a nice little round chunk), but if I went to the hospital there would be way too many fricking questions. Even tho I didn't do anything illegal/wrong.

          The distance was 20yards on the indoor one btw. I can go to 25 but I have to back up the tables all the way to the door, and most people who come there wanna shoot 10/15.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. Maybe the concern of a partially disassembled gone is a little over the top, but you SHOULD be worried about where your gun is pointed and whether it's loaded or not. Recently I started locking the slide back and finger fricking the chamber and magwell, instead of just looking. Because think about all the times you checked your phone/watch and 10 seconds later forgot what the time ti was and had to check again.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you even know the safety rules? Recite them now without googling.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dont point at shit you're willing to destroy

      Guns always loaded

      Be sure what's behind your target

      Booger finger of the trigger

      this. Maybe the concern of a partially disassembled gone is a little over the top, but you SHOULD be worried about where your gun is pointed and whether it's loaded or not. Recently I started locking the slide back and finger fricking the chamber and magwell, instead of just looking. Because think about all the times you checked your phone/watch and 10 seconds later forgot what the time ti was and had to check again.

      always finger frick the chamber. lick it after aswell, finger not the chamber

      I stick my guns in my mouth in front of people as a joke. Some people are just different I guess.

      wut

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shit you're not willing to destroy, it's 2:53 AM sorry

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gun safety rules
      >always keep your gun loaded
      >point your gun at everyone
      >keep your finger on the trigger
      >the world is your backstop
      >have fun 🙂

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        George W hunting trip rules

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stick my guns in my mouth in front of people as a joke. Some people are just different I guess.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't do this, you'll give yourself lead poisoning.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What if he only shoots solid copper?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only metallic lead comes off of the projectile, which your body can't absorb really
          the danger is the lead in the primer, which is in salt form

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the danger is the lead in the primer, which is in salt form
            based moron. Salts only exist in "corrosive" ammunition primers, which 90% of what exists on the market today is not.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The lead burns into either lead powder or lead oxide, neither of which you want in your body

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >neither of which you want in your body
                yeah maybe if you're a pussy
                real men don't live past 35

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I got enough mercury in me from the tuna already.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering all the times I've eaten after shooting I think I'll be alright. Don't really care if I do anyways.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I think I'll be alright.
          well a crazy person wouldn't recognize that they're crazy...

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just gotta let a quick desk pop off and you'll feel better

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  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good replies already itt, just want to add, when i'm dry-firing my carry piece at home, i'll unload it, and then say out loud as i perform the actions, "i've verified the weapon is unloaded, now i'm loading it with snapcaps, the snapcaps are loaded, now i can dryfire", and then likewise when loading it with live ammunition, "i'm finished dryfiring, i'm loading live ammunition, it is now loaded with live ammunition"
    yes it sounds moronic and autistic but i think it helps with safety and not getting stuck in the mental loop you're describing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It does sound moronic and autistic but I do get the point.

      based, this hero handles his guns. meanwhile whiny little girls are shitting themselves in fear with the gun sitting there. life is short, guns are inherently dangerous. you just have to accept that the gun might kill you, fear is the mindkiller.

      pop goes the glock

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cats have toxoplasmosis, which is known to cause OCD levels of anxiety in some people, since you most likely contracted toxoplasmosis and now have it embedded in your brain, pretty much every cat owner has this parasite inside of their brain if they have physically handled the feces of a cat.

    Talk to your doctor about this or buy some horse paste ivermectin, take the dosage you see on the internet for a human from the paste, do the math your self.

    Also, since you have anxiety, assuming it isn't toxoplasmosis, high probability it is, take n acetly cysteine.

    A disease that results from infection with the Toxoplasma gondii parasite.
    Toxoplasmosis results from infection with a common parasite found in cat feces and contaminated food.

    The NAC will alleviate anxiety to an extant. Kill your cat or drop it off somewhere once you start to shit out worms from the ivermectin.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >toxoplasmosis
      got tested recently when I was unwell. I don't have toxo.

      cats are indoor cats and don't have toxo either. They don't hunt, ear raw meat, or drink contaminated water.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cats
        You have multiple cats!?
        A classic sign of the toxoplasmosis parasite dwelling within the human brain is a fondness for living with multiple cats, due to cats being the primary parasitic vessel for toxoplasmosis.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          2 indoor cats 🙂

          You got toxoplasmosis, which causes your high level of anxiety. Talk to your doctor.

          Most healthy people never recover from toxoplasmosis, it remains permanently within their brain. Persons who are ill can be treated with a combination of drugs such as pyrimethamine and sulfadiazine, plus folinic acid.

          I don't have any anxiety otherwise in general, even from things I really should be anxious about. I oftentimes work with electricity and I am fine and confident with that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The toxoplasmosis parasite can cause a long-term infection. Following infection, a small number of parasites can remain locked inside cysts within certain parts of the body, such as the brain, lungs and muscle tissue. Such dormant infections persist for life and can reactivate in the immunosuppressed person.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Suppose you missed the bit about my testing? I'm not immunosuppressed don't worry :).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fatal Attraction Phenomenon in Humans – Cat Odour Attractiveness Increased for Toxoplasma-Infected Men While Decreased for Infected Women.

                I believe you are already infected if you will not even consider the possibility that you have become infected. Does the thought of living alone without cats terrify you? Would you rather spend as much money as possible to save your cats, even possibly becoming financially indebt, than live alone without them? If you do, then most likely you are infected since you can't fathom living without cats.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, about 2-4K EUR is where I draw the line. I like them but in the end they're animals not humans. They're nice companions for me and my fiancée, and living plushies. But I'm not gonna insanely indebt myself for a dumb reason.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The marriage won't last more than 13 years, probability dictates this if your wife to be has had sex with more than 2 people before you, it's common during relations that a women cheats on a man 3 times per year.

                Whatever man, just trying to help you, don't blame anyone else if bad shit comes your way.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the probability if my wife to be hasn't had a boyfriend before me, not even kissed a guy?

                Get a sand bucket to fire into before cleaning

                I do have a cut up tire bucket.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >don't worry 🙂
                You're becoming defensive about legitimate advice, you're already infected, only way to cure yourself is to talk to your doctor about this and get rid of your cats permanently, kill your cats.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                damn, "don't worry" is considered defensive now?

                I must be infected then, the test was wrong. Need to ask a second opinion.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can't just "test" for that shit, anon. They're parasites, they hide. They are basically perma-stealth. You'll only find evidence of them if they happen to be "kicking up dust" during the test.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >toxoplasmosis
      got tested recently when I was unwell. I don't have toxo.

      cats are indoor cats and don't have toxo either. They don't hunt, ear raw meat, or drink contaminated water.

      Toxoplasmosis is based, and correlates with increased risk taking behavior and aggression.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You dont and you shouldnt. Complacency is what leads to NDs and redundant safety practices are both what prevent them and minimize damage if they do occur.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You got toxoplasmosis, which causes your high level of anxiety. Talk to your doctor.

    Most healthy people never recover from toxoplasmosis, it remains permanently within their brain. Persons who are ill can be treated with a combination of drugs such as pyrimethamine and sulfadiazine, plus folinic acid.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a sand bucket to fire into before cleaning

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you'll get over it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, looking at this picture makes me slightly nervous lol.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How about this

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same, nice pants tho

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hope you use protection so that way you can be completely culled from the gene pool when you have a nice day doing that or something else equally stupid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            does being a clipboard warrior get your rocks off? have you ever touched the trigger when you weren't ready to fire?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need to be more comfortable around your guns. Handle them more, play with them, sleep with them, etc. Thats all it takes.

      ^ This anon gets it

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eject the magazine and then rack the slide until your brain works

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop being a pussy

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a stack of phone books to use as a clearing chamber. Make clear, double check, dry fire into phone books, rack, fire again. Repeat if you want to.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you worry that you're going to get run over by parked cars when you walk in front of them? Stop being a moron. Safety rules should be your first instinct, but if you've just stuck your finger in the chamber and you're still pissing yourself about looking down the muzzle, you're just a moron. It's okay, the rules are there to stop morons shooting themselves.

      Thanks cokeman.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, because ai can always see the driver seat and hear if its running.

        Something I like to do is 1. remove mag 2. open slide/bolt 3. check the hole (finger it like youtube if you feel frisky) 4. repeat 3 times, as in look away from the firearm to clear your brain then give the gun a full safety clear check again. Then point in safe direction and pull the trigger to be SURE. Also when you are cleaning/dry firing/fricking around, put the ammo in a locked/closed container or in another room away from the cleared gun. Use snap caps to check function and practice.

        I need to buy snap caps, I use specially loaded brass that i put plastic bullets in and straightened the primers on. I colored them red.

        The other thing I do, is if I put the unloaded gun down and then pick it up again I assume a gremlin came and put a live round in it and repeat the clearing procedure again.

        Yep, when my eyes are not on it, anything could theoretically happen.

        If nothing else a lack of confidence is a much better problem to have than overconfidence.
        Building up confidence is just a matter of getting used to a situation and a lack of confidence isn't going to cost anyone their life. (outside of combat, at least)
        Overconfidence is almost impossible to correct without fricking up in a way that humbles you, and even then it's no guarantee that person will straighten out.

        That’s true, I used to be a bit overconfident with weapons in general until I had the crossbow thing happen. Now I might have overcorrected.

        >pull the trigger
        never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.

        I mean, if you have a sand/tire bucket then I guess you’re ready to fire.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >see the driver seat and hear if its running
          >stuck your finger in the chamber
          Okay, we've done analogies.
          >when my eyes are not on it
          Do you have a lazy eye or something? Stick finger in chamber, look through chamber end, look through muzzle end, apply gun directly to the forehead and pull the trigger. Keep your fricking eyes on your work.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick ya mudda

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something I like to do is 1. remove mag 2. open slide/bolt 3. check the hole (finger it like youtube if you feel frisky) 4. repeat 3 times, as in look away from the firearm to clear your brain then give the gun a full safety clear check again. Then point in safe direction and pull the trigger to be SURE. Also when you are cleaning/dry firing/fricking around, put the ammo in a locked/closed container or in another room away from the cleared gun. Use snap caps to check function and practice.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The other thing I do, is if I put the unloaded gun down and then pick it up again I assume a gremlin came and put a live round in it and repeat the clearing procedure again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the devil loads your guns when you ain't lookin'

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pull the trigger
      never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm always ready to fire.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If nothing else a lack of confidence is a much better problem to have than overconfidence.
    Building up confidence is just a matter of getting used to a situation and a lack of confidence isn't going to cost anyone their life. (outside of combat, at least)
    Overconfidence is almost impossible to correct without fricking up in a way that humbles you, and even then it's no guarantee that person will straighten out.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you thought about cleaning them in a room without other people/cats?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without negligent discharging at least once, you aren't handling it enough. NDs are a natural part of handling weapons, just like tweaking your back is part of weightlifting and car accidents are part of driving. I ND several times a year because I actually HANDLE and know how to USE my weapons. It makes me a better firearms handler and marksman, and it's a small part of the price you pay in the sheepdog lifestyle Simple fact is, the "safety mentality" will build mental blocks in your head that will get you killed. You need to be comfortable putting your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun wherever you want no matter the time, place, or status of the weapon. Taking time to check whether the gun is loaded whenever you pick one up will serve to make you hesitate in a personal defense scenario. You fricking safety idiots are going to get people killed all because of this fricking "ND" shaming. Guns are inherently dangerous, you need to accept it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please provide a list of the ranges you shoot at so we know not to go there.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im not gun expert but uh what about taking the bullets out before cleaning it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then you have dirty bullets, think!

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i used to be like that but now i feel like im a bit too comfortable with guns
    when i go on shootouts with my friends on private property we regularly flag eachothers feet with loaded guns (on safety) when we're carrying them
    i have no hesitation about shooting at smallest of berms when there could potentially be something behind it
    i casually fill up my black powder revolver as far as i can fit it with a bullet without measuring, and i dont usually bother to check if its 2f or 3f that im using

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on which BP revolver you have it might be quite safe.TNANN

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow you're a fricking pussy.
    Maybe just sell all your guns. After all, the magical gun loading goblin can literally take your guns from your safe, reassemble them, load them, point them at you, and pull the trigger, all for even just IMAGINING putting your finger on the trigger

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