-I am a rural homeowner.
-I didn't want tools that worked harder than me.
-I bought Ryobi cause I am poor and rural (I literally raise chickens for meat and collect rain water).
-i do independent contracting on the side and that part seems to be growing.
-I have had 1 battery and 1 saw fail within a year both Ryobi.
other Ryobi tools I been pretty happy with but this has made me reconsider my tools not keeping up with me.
I have considered stepping up to rigid as most Ryobi stuff seems good enough for my use.
I am here asking for reasonable, not fanboy, tool advice. I work for myself and I work at my pace, I'm not out doing 80 hour weeks anymore and Ryobi seems to just skirt the line of working less than me.
is rigid worth switching to? should I stick with Ryobi and just replace the weaker tools? should I just sell my ass and move up to Milwaukee?
I live within driving distance of rigid HQ and I'm wondering if I could use with the lifetime warranty to get tools back faster if they fail?
advice? not looking to start a war or shit. I'm just a rural dingus and wondering if a switch is worth it as my Ryobi tools fail.
I do alot of mcmansions and custom work. you can't buy taste buy you can buy me.
>branded cardboard marketed for painting and remodeling
>not going to walmart and asking for free cardboard they throw away anyways
It's almost as if the "designer" of this project doesn't actually have experience living in the abodes they laid out to be made.
This is some barbie doll house bullshit. It's gotta be way overpriced, too.
bro you got no idea how overpriced and how barbie doll this shit is.
there is a entrance to the basement behind a bookcase, it won't pass inspection so it was installed after. if there is a fire or if the guy gains any weight there is only about 20 inches of clearance for the doorway.
I do mcmansions. rich people don't follow code, laws are beneath them and they are never accountable for any of their decisions. the same house, he hired illegal labor for board and baton. there were 2 inch spaces up to window frame right to the tyvek. it all had to be torn down and chances are someone is gonna get stiffed or his employees arnt getting raises.
he won't ever be the one to pay. the way of the world.
switch is the wrong term. replace is better. just as tools fail I need to replace them. I been looking at cordless saws to replace the failed Ryobi. I'm not just outright replacing working stuff.
so which is your favorite colored plastic in that case. I have corded tools. one of the shit parts of being rural is sometimes power isn't available. I'm not lugging a generator for these rich buttholes. they won't pay for the fuel and with batteries I just charge them at the site and often discharge them at home to charge my phones and stuff.
my friend, what plastic tells people I can work but I'm lazy and don't want to?
I wear shorts and a T-shirt, my toolbelt is a old web belt and random bags and I often wear sandals or running shoes.
I'm not a professional, I can just work at a professional level. I don't think someone like me needs Bosch or Milwaukee even.
pic not related. I just love my chickens and this little dipshit makes me giggle. I'm probably moronic.
I have cordless saws but also a corded Skil worm drive as backup. I like it enough I'll hunt down another to use with thin kerf abrasive discs on steel.
You do a good job installing it clean and basically seamless. But at this point it's gotta be like assembling sandwiches with ingredients already there.
I hate seeing white painted drywall. People don't build houses like they used to. It's a shame instagram makes young women think this is the epitome of living standards now.
I appreciate this. I'm moronic and often times suffer from imposter syndrome or whatever. I feel like I'm just lying to people if I tell them I do good work.
so to hear it without prompt is nice. I appreciate that.
y'all I have made my decision.
dewalt. it's tool line up, pricing, history, availability, sales, a long with 2 corded tools (cut off and a saw) that I really like. Ive has good luck with their bits and I can't think of something I used of theirs I have been really disappointed in.
I got one of their toughmatic or toughguard or whatever screw box for like 10$ that I like well enough.
never failed never spilled, no cracks etc.
price was the big issue cause Milwaukee seemed like a nominal quality jump vs price increase.
I will be replacing my dead Ryobi battery with a DeWalt and as tools and batteries die I'll will be moving to dewalt.
it doesn't look like they will be going anywhere soon and if they do there is a ungodly amount of Chinese aftermarket support(last resort if they kill my tool lineup).
the batteries seem like where DeWalt overcharges to me.
pic related to gentleman who hates white women design.
me too.
my bedroom has a prostitute house red on the walls with lime green sheets.
my battlestation isn't much better. I am happily married and she is a saint for letting me exist the way I do.
Looks like cheap shakers and quartz countertops. The Kohler faucet is pretty expensive because Kohler.
On the second look, I realize this is a laundry room...expensive, kinda, but definately not premium. Expensive for a laundry room, oh yeah. The hell do you need a sink in your laundry room for?
Pre-rinsing heavily soiled stuff, delicate items, etc. That's way fancier than what you usually see in a laundry room, though.
Laundry sink is also nice for e.g. rinsing paint brushes and other messy stuff, instead of using the kitchen sink.
Milwaukee or Bosch imo
you ever have issues with theft? I tag all my tools, but one of the secret benefits of the lower end tools is no one steals them lol.
I like Milwaukee squares and tapes but never used their power tools. is it really worth the jump in price?
You could epoxy AirTags on stuff. I just have a bit rolling bin that I keep a lock on and always put tolls away in the bin. All my battery tools are Milwaukee and my corded tools are Dewalte or Makita. I use a hot iron an scratch a brand on the plastic of my tools as well. Have never had any theft, but I do watch out for it.
I haven't used many shitty tools because I am a privileged richgay, but milwaukee fuel tools feel so incredibly solid. it's like driving screws with a rifle, they provide tactile pleasure to the user (like a dildo)
milwaukee is also made in china.
MAKITA.
Top of the line Rigid is mostly old Milwaukee internals. No idea about the rest of their lineup.
ryobi
I have no idea where Rigid HQ is so you want to include that in your post.
Speaking of deals, I was within 45 mintutes of a permanent location flea market, and it had a couple of regular vendors, who sold yellow and red tools with RTV stickers on them. They were perfectly good tools, but had been shipped out to a location for sale, and idk maybe that place went out of business or something, and the items were marked to be returned to vendor, and they never got there.
The prices were good! Like half of retail. This is before Biden Hyperinflation so idk what they are now. That's where I would stock-up on red and yellow if i had the money. I've used Ryobi, no complaints. The aging wheels guy on youtube is a big ryobi user, seems reasonably happy with their stuff. As do the part-time trades people here.
I'm in an eerily similar position as you. I also raise birds, chickens primarily. Rural area. Have some trades experience, and people who want me to do this and that. But if the vibe is weird, I DO NOT do it. Money is nott money when you violate that. You'll know if you are reading this and don't yet. Stay the frick away from weird Masters anf 'something is wrong here' customers.
I also work at my own pace. I usually don't even dictate price and instead, let the person, whom I usually develop some kind of neighborly relationship with, decide. They know how overpriced energy is, as a means of controlling everyone else and keeping them slaves. Shame.
I don't do the rainwater collection like nate petrovski (the youtube guy with the annoying nasal voice), but instead have a functional spring on the property. I also have access to natural gas, for heating and cooking, off a well. And last, I have no intention of ever buying property on the contiguous states - it's fricked. Everything is motivated by greed and stupidity.
>petrovski (the youtube guy with the annoying nasal voice)
yeah there is a word for that
jew
wise up, c**t
As a Ridgid and Ryobi user, why not just go DeWalt? You won’t second guess yourself and DeWalt has so many sales at different retailers that you will end up getting really close in price. Ridgid’s quality is up there with DeWalt and Milwaukee, but they have a more limited lineup. Main reason I got on Ridgid was because they had a really good holiday deal with a brushless hammer drill and impact driver and free brushless sawzall plus 2x4.0Ah batteries for $199. The DeWalt and Milwaukee offerings were $149 for non-hammer drill and impact and two smaller batteris, and a kit similar to the Ridgid was $300-$400 from those brands. I haven’t seen such a big gap in pricing the past few years though, it’s often like $250 for the premium Ridgid hammer drill and impact kit, $300 for DeWalt XR kit, and $350 for M18 Fuel. I would’ve gone DeWalt if it was only $50 difference.
Wait til the end of this month and Home Depot and Lowe’s will have all their holiday sales set up.
>Wait til the end of this month and Home Depot and Lowe’s will have all their holiday sales set up.
This. Been a green tool man for many years but got the new Ridgid tracksaw and was very impressed. Looked at it more and decided to step up a few things. Waiting for those sweet Black Friday combo packs.
My neighbor was 80 years old and decided to move to a trailer in NC so gave me a ton of shit including all these old tools. I just cut up 60 boards with a Skil saw from the 70s or maybe early 80s. It has no blade lock, I figured out that's why saw blades have notches in them - so you can wedge in like a flathead screwdriver and get the blade to stop spinning while you undo the nut. Also the cord plug was not polarized just 2 identical prongs if that helps date it.
Anyway this ancient tool did me a solid and worked like a champ once I put in a fresh blade.
I also got a drill press, hammer drill, miter saw, tons of hand tools, and his old playboy collection with hairy veganas in it.
So I would advise you to make friends with your elderly neighbors and/or go to yard sales. These old tools are built pretty solid. Maybe not all the useful features of newer ones but I think the build quality is better, they will last longer.
Oh yeah if you need advice on how to make friends with them, this guy liked to sit in his garage with the garage door open so I would wave to him then I started going up the driveway and talk to him, sit down in a folding chair with him and he'd do most of the talking. Liked to go on about politics and stuff, big Trump fan. And about various wildlife we see in our backyard, he showed me pics of the time he caught a bobcat in a cage trap. He had a lot of old metal signs from gas stations and car/motorcycle brands I got some of those when he left too.
for you.
I value, have, and use tools twice twice my age.
>big giant double sinks
>no fricking counter space
i hate double sinks so much.
what? do couples think they're going to stand there brushing their teeth in tandem everyday?
One is for pissing in.
Sink pissers unite!
Ew I don't want some prostitute using my sink even if she is my wife
so fricking zased
because at least my sink will drain even if hers is clogged with long fricking hair
I have many Ryobi tools. The only tool to fail was a finish nailer. The driver bent while using it (don't remember exact circumstance) but I took it to HD and they replaced it immediately.
I have had two Ryobi batteries fail after many years of use. In both cases the battery still works, the shell broke around the latches that hold it in the tool
I have quite a few Milwaukee tools. Three have failed. Two within the warranty period and one only a few months past the warranty date.
All of the failed tools were Fuel brushless. An M18 4-1/2" grinder was replaced. An M12 Rotary Tool (dremel) was replaced. An M18 1/2" impact was out of warranty - I bought the internal electronics and repaired it myself.
One Milwaukee M12 battery failed (would not accept a charge) it was within two weeks of going out of warranty. It was replaced.
If I needed another tool and didn't intend to give it a beating, I'd still buy Ryobi. If I was buying for gifting to my son or grandsons, I'd buy Milwaukee. (that's what they have)
op here I have read through and appreciate everyone's replies. it has given me more information as I consider staying or switching.
the gentleman that had the batteries and finish nailer fail, I had a 5 1/2 saw fail and a HP battery stop charging and just show 1 bar. I haven't fiddled with the stuff yet, so I got no idea if it's a simple fix or I just need to discharge the battery and recharge but I'm pretty disappointed in those 2 failures. their brushless stuff has been great, but my hammer drill came with a unaligned chuck and slightly bent.
hearing DeWalt is inside rigid is rather interesting. dewalt is a brand I didn't consider that also might be on the table.
I'm not brand loyal, it's just easier carrying 1 set of batteries. honestly the Ryobi battery dick has been kinda a piece of shit for me stacking them.
I know I could be more organized but I like just throwing shit in a bag. like a small job box.
I think I've decided to move away from Ryobi and either go DeWalt or rigid. the next question would be which one has a larger variety of tools.
I love me a radio, router, and vacuum all running off the same batteries lol. not sure if anything best ryobis lineup.
of DeWalt and rigid, which do you all think will have a longer support structure, stay in production, and continue with new tool sets?
pic unrelated, but read about the other guy with poultry and thought I'd share.
DeWalt has a wider variety of tools than Ridgid. Ridgid has all the basics and some cool shit but not as much as DeWalt or Milwaukee.
Milwaukee is probably the largest lineup but you will pay for it, and a lot of that stuff is oriented towards certain trades that wouldn’t really concern a DIYer.
DeWalt probably has the widest availability of retailers in the US. Ridgid is Home Depot’s store brand (at least the orange Ridgid power tools). I believe Amazon is even an authorized retailer of DeWalt so you can get fast shipping on tools you might not find at a local store.
Ridgid is still generally more affordable, but DeWalt has so many sales going on constantly so that makes up for the price difference a little bit.
As far as support structure, Ridgid has been one of the very few brands that didn’t change battery design going from NiCd to Lithium. DeWalt users had to buy adapters for the new batteries. However DeWalt still sells new batteries for the 18V XRP tools for the guys still rocking those. If Home Depot decided to stop selling DeWalt, you could go to Lowe’s or Amazon. If Home Depot decided to stop selling Ridgid, you’re stuck searching for Chinese knockoff batteries or used stuff on Ebay.
This is coming from guy with lots of Ridgid. You should see what kind of holiday sales they have at the end of the month. If there’s killer Milwaukee deals, that’s a good choice as well, best lineup of tools but will generally be a little more expensive than DeWalt. Makita is straight too but they don’t have the expansive lineup of Milwaukee or the good sales of DeWalt and quality and performance are so close when you compare the prosumer brands that I would go Yellow or Red depending on your priorites because those two have upsides that Makita, Bosch, Flex, Metabo HPT don’t have.
Red or Yellow, ya really can't go wrong. Buy the best tier you can afford and as long as you don't abuse them they'll last.
Metabo is the GOAT imo
>mcmansion hotel style bathroom
>cheap chinese composite material and lighting
>no practical counter space
>no practical storage
Really shit design, really shit taste, really shit customer decisions going on
they pay me. I put in the shit. you can't buy good taste and money is fake. so we have millions of these kind of people. the doors to their bathroom swing open and hit the glass of their walk in shower. I wrote down the architects name so I can avoid his jobs in the future. someone ended up flipping the door frame and now it's a really fricking stupid looking design but safer. it was designed for every door to push in as you walk into the bedroom, now it's the only door to have to be pulled. I hate it. I think about it often.
pic related.
my friend, the practical advice I can give when it comes to cost to performance is that any battery powered tool is convenient, but expensive. Get one with a cable and you don't have to buy a 200 dollar battery for your 60 dollar tool. get whatever color plastic suits your fancy as long as it has a power cable that plugs into the wall.
I never "switch". I ADD instead. You can never have too many tools and ever being one deep begs downtime.
In contracting time is money so buy the highest quality tools you can manage but also gobble up all the corded gear you can manage because they basically give it away used, like pre-buyout Milwaukee corded tools (love me Hole Hawg).
>I ADD
There’s a certain point though, I had a bin of DeWalt 18V XRP stuff and I kept it around just in case I wanted to use the SDS with the fricking dying batteries. But I wasn’t going to invest more money in those batteries so eventually I sold it for super cheap to get the storage space back, and at this point I’ll go buy the Ridgid SDS when I come up to something the hammer drill can’t handle.
Contractor here. I have Milwaukee tools and can tell you they're not as great as people say. Triggers are an issue on my impact, 10" chop saw, 2 circ saws, sawzall and hackzall.
DeWalt is a solid choice. I've never owned Rigid but from what I've seen others using they're ok.
To be frank, if I hired a sub and he showed up with Ryobi it would be a bad sign. They're light duty and it comes off like you're not invested in your work and not successful. Not the type of guy you take seriously.
My red shit is slowly getting replaced with DeWalt and Makita.
I fell into the work. my reputation ended up carrying me, I am a butcher by trade, almost 13 years before I quit it.
not everyone can show up to do tile work in sandles with a joint and have the home owners confidence. I get the side eye alot from people but my work always stands, or I fix it.
if someone doesn't like me I'm easy going and civil, there is enough work around, or I just don't have to work if I don't want to, but I like the mad money and it funds my homestead raw materials.
I don't kneel (knees hurt), I sit and move around like a fricking monkey on my knuckles. I think I'm a eccentric? but I'm open to being mentally ill or whatever.
but again, people won't leave me alone, phone blows up with more work than I'd ever want even with a poor attitude and ugly tools. I kinda got that feel from Milwaukee. that they have been kinda heading downhill over the years so it's nice to hear it from someone else.
pic attached. did floor and tile and rail, installed sliding door in background(what a b***h). rich European moved to America. got all euro style shit, I got no idea how he will service it in the future.
me I guess.
but that's ordering parts and like a gross wait time. guy wanted bottled traps. they won't pass inspection. wanted charcoal stove in the closed kitchen. he paid to have normal stuff installed then he paid to have is illegal stuff installed.
If you're going to be going heavy use, either pay up and get DeWalt, Milwaukee, or Makita, or buy Rigid and register with the LSA, accepting that they'll break and need repairs occasionally for free.. Ryobi is weekend warrior grade.
Flex still has the lifetime warranty deal going until the end of the year. They’re good tools… if you trust that this new brand will still be sold in the US in 10 years
Use Ryobi for your lesser used tools since you already have batteries and chargers. Rigid for your most used tools.
Kek. Good job. My protogé
>Ridgid drills and saws
>Ryobi lights and toilet bowl scrubber
please don't try to relate to anyone
>pvc and mdf shelf
if you spent more time working and less time shitposting then you wouldn't be so poor
Post your workshop tool rack then.
Kek
I don’t even like the PVC, doesn’t work as well as I’d hoped even with the foam inside. I’m tempted to buy one of the Chinese metal racks with the power tool holders, or flip the tools upside down so the battery holder part is in the PVC, but that wouldn’t work for the 12V
I needed to get the tools and batteries out from under my workbench because those shelves are full of all the shit I have been acquiring from tons of projects I have been doing.
3d print your own mounts
I'm saying that because he has Ryobi already and clearly shops at Home Depot.
I use Kobalt tools.
>I use Kobalt tools.
They are pretty great.
Sure, if you're just hanging a towel bar or a planter hook every other weekend.
I used Dewalt for 10 years working carpentry with my grandpas business. They aren't much different. Clearly a big step up from Ryobi/Craftsman DIY brands.
DeWalt has the biggest line for the money
I've had some issues with rigid design but I've never owned them
The tools are manufactured overseas so being close to the office workers won't help your tool turnaround time
I would seriously examine all the options and then decide.
I have kobalt tools that work like my DeWalt but they don't have a full line
Worx has cool design stuff but not enough power
Milwaukee, DeWalt, Bosch and metabo consumer lines all function the same but they each have unique lines of tools
This guy uses mostly Ryobi tools.
He's had some complaints but stays with Ryobi.
https://www.youtube.com/@agingwheels
The holiday deals are starting to pop up online, your local store might have displays up.
Ridgid looks like it’s going to have a good deal. This is the top tier drill and impact driver kit with the high torque drill and a couple good batteries plus 2 free tools.
That’s similar to what sold me on them originally. The “free tool” list is actually all newer model brushless stuff like the mid-torque impact and brushless circ saw or an 8.0Ah battery, while lots of Milwaukee and DeWalt free tool deals are mostly last gen brushed tools.
That price is messed up, $379 plus two free tools, and most of the bare tools are $149-$199 alone. They have the string trimmer, blower, 7-1/4” circ saw, angle grinder, sawzall, extended reach ratchet, mid torque 1/2”, jigsaw, router, grease gun, oscillating multitool, 8.0 battery…
i have makita 18v platform stuff. subcompact circ saw, drill, driver, sawzall, and then the fullsize grinder, drill, driver, router, orbital sander, 16ga nailer, jigsaw, tire filler.. metabo oscillator and framing nailer.. dewalt pin nailer. They're all great. I felt it was necessary to branch out for the tools that aren't makita, but all the makita stuff is solid and smooth. All the guys on the site who use it and have older cordless and corded tools comment about how good they feel. Makita has a great selection of tools and i really am looking forward to trying some of the yard care tools eventually.. One day i might invest in some kind of fireproof container to keep all my batteries in.. might be a market for that kind of thing.. ultra fireproof insulated boxes to keep batteries in.
This is why you don’t buy Makita. They’re almost as bad as Bosch for US buyers.
Got a new orange toy today because reasons that are not quite clear yet.
implying their batteries blow up?
No. Their batteries perma-brick themselves if they get too low, but they’re behind the game with their tools and the battery platforms and compatibility are really dumb. Just look at the 40V XGT drill that’s $400 with a charger and two basic batteries and puts out power similar to other brands’ 18V-24V stuff for around half the price.
yea i've heard that but never experienced it or worked with anybody else who had problems. I've run batteries dead before so maybe i'm just lucky? I'm sure rigid makes good stuff. I worked under a guy for a while who had some of them and i don't remember them being particularly notable. For some reason i feel like they aren't the best ergonomically. Some companies just really excel in a particular tool and you have to branch out. Like that Metabo oscillator i have.. that thing is so smooth when you're using it.. On the surface the dewalt one looks nice and the blade change is fast, but it just has this tinny quality that makes using the tool not enjoyable.. I don't know i think there is a lot to be said for that sort of stuff and each person has unique preferences. Like that dewalt pin nailer is so awesome, when i first tried one i knew i had to buy one and now i just look for things to pin nail... actually coming in handy on a shoemaking/lasting project.
If batteries are bricking themselves from running out of charge it's a result of the battery pack's BMS system failing. this is the same thing that happened with those chinky chinese hoverboards where they would explode during charging. the BMS system is responsible for monitoring power output from the batteries and either stopping them from charging additionally or stopping them from draining completely when they get low. It's also the reason that when your battery dies you can let go of the button and press it again and the tool will work again for a second before dying again - the battery isn't actually all the way dead, it's just artificially cut off to avoid being damaged.
TLDR rigid batteries are killing themselves because of shitty BMS boards or shitty quality control on the battery packs. just thought I'd share
You missed the point.
There’s something about Makita batteries that people complain about, I think AvE b***hed about it. Not abou Ridgid packs dying, don’t know where you got that from.
There’s a low voltage where the tool cuts out, and then there’s an even lower voltage where the charger doesn’t want to charge the battery because it’s so low that it thinks there could be damage. If you run a battery down to 1 bar and store it and it self-discharges below that level where the charger won’t recognize it, you can recover most packs with a power supply or giving it a little jump from another battery so the charger will actually try. But Makita has some shit where it hits that low voltage protection once, and the board bricks the entire battery and you will never be able to recover it.
I just did it last week with a Ryobi back that went into protection mode. Once it got below a certain level, even though the pack of cells was still ~8V, the battery contacts were showing like 80mV. The board went into protection mode, so I brought a few of the cells back above 3V, and hit the contacts again and it went from 80mV up to 15V+. If I tried to do that with a Makita pack, it would never come back alive.
is that a good power supply brand? I've been looking at b&k but most of them run low amps and I want to use it primarily for etching and occasionally board troubleshooting
Hey OP, you ever see an Amish miter saw?
They get the nice DeWalt 12" slider, and replace the electric motor with a Stihl gas trimmer motor.
That's kind of cool, I never saw that before. Does the electric spark for ignition not count, lol.
Apparently not, the big thing is that it doesn't plug in the wall.
That said, if they're doing a job for a non-Amish, and you provide power tools, they'll use them. It's about the dependency on outside resources more than the tools themselves.
My parents are getting a tractor garage/workshop/greenhouse built at their new place out in Amish country and were using my Dad's miter saw alongside theirs and his drills to supplement hand tools.
You will have failures and issues potentially with any brand. I have had a full set of Dewalt for 11 years, besides batteries they have been perfect. (hundreds of jobs from my roof, to rebuilding my entire 2000sqft basement). I bet you some other cuck will screech "muh dwldz fails fast". There is no perfect best brand. Just average or totally shit. Avoid the totally shit.
Dewalt really is the best. I've had these guys around for as long as I can remember and they've seen some shit, they've been abused.
Still working just fine.
depends on how frequently your batteries die
I picked the dewalt 20v ecosystem because it seemed to have consistently good (never best, but never midrange or below) reviews
Ryobi is actually fine unless you're pushing the limits on a tool all day every day, as long as you don't buy the shittiest cheap combo kit tools. My dad recently retired from home building and has never used cordless tools that weren't Ryobi. He's got drills that are older than me and look like hell but still work.
dont buy shit gear over and over
jesus, man