If it was the US who invaded Ukraine and Russia who was supporting them with money and weapons, how well would the US military fare in comparison? Let's say the US has political support from NATO and other allies but it's somewhat reluctant and they don't do much to really help other than to let them use their territory to deliver troops into Ukraine.
That depends on so many unknown aspects that it does warrant a discussion.
The US wouldn't delude itself into thinking it was going to be some 3 day hearts and minds operation where we'd just walk in an they'd throw flowers at our feet, so you'd see an actual proper build up and decapitation strike with SEAD and air dominance. Russian support would be an issue depending on just how much support they actually showed. Moving arms and equipment over the border? Pretty annoying. Basically would turn the country into an Afghanistan tier forever insurgency hellhole. If Russia took an active role and used its troops and air defense umbrella it would actually be a serious problem. The only option would be to declare all out war against them as well. Whether nukes got involved or not, the US would win, but the bloodshed would be unimaginable and the damage likely unrecoverable. It's such an obviously dumb idea that it's not even really worth considering as a hypothetical.
About as well as they did in Iraq. Russia was supporting the enemy in that conflict and it was like a prolonged inconvenience more than anything else. Invasion would have actually been over in a few weeks and we’d be balls deep into the occupation fighting against a Russian-armed insurgency.
You think US would establish air supremacy as easily as in Iraq?
Ruskies suck balls, but the fact that they don't have upper hand in the sky after a year, strongly suggest ukies have enough stuff to keep them off the air.
>You think US would establish air supremacy as easily as in Iraq?
Better, but the sheer volume of air defense in the region means we'd have long a long, slow, and costly SEAD campaign first. The volume of pilot losses would cause public scandal.
Iraqi crews just aren't comparable to European ones. Serbians using systems from 1961 were more effective than Iraqis with brand new ones.
The Iraqis shot down 75 aircraft, the Serbs shot down 5 or so. The only reason the Serbia bombing was less effective is the Serbs were good at decoys, which is probably helped by the fact Yugoslavia has terrian features other than flat desert.
the us would have air superiority in 24 hours.
The Russians spent approximately 30 minutes on SEAD before their invasion. The U.S. spent 30+ days in Iraq. That's not to say the U.S. would definitely gain air supremacy over Ukraine, but they are infinitely better positioned than Russia to do so.
Yes, Ukies have enough to keep undertained Russians pilots using medicore gear to fly their medicore planes out of Ukrainian air space. Russia has no experience with SEAD, their air force is trash and they cope with AA which gets shit on by garden gnome pilots over Syria all day every day.
Both the Soviets and the Chinese helped fund the Viet Cong, to what extent is still a mystery, but it's believed to have been a major contributing factor in why the US got bogged down there. Conversely, looking at the Soviet-Afghan war, the US deliberately funded the mujahedeen fighters to bog down Russia, with great success. I think the US always has and always will be the greater power, but propping up the enemies of one's enemies is a very effective tactic so it's hard to say.
US already successfully invaded Ukraine in 2014.
The early stage of the war would be less embarrassing and more decisive because the US is an actual air power.
The long-term propositions are basically identical to those of every other long-term American occupation.
Even with NATO training the Ukrainian army was worse off than Iraq in 2003. The U.S. took Baghdad in 6 days, 21 days after the start of the war. The whole war against the nation of Iraq lasted just over a month woth ground fighting lasting 26 days. I believe Russia would one up NATO currently as the Wagner group would be involved. Even with that Ukraine would have been steamrolled and there are no jihadis to drag it out.
Month long air campaign.
Mass surrender of enemy.
Target Rich environments leading to kill zones with deconfliction issues.
typical post cold war shit
>Mass surrender of enemy.
I don’t think the US troops will mass rape/murder entire captured towns