>hundreds of T-62Ms in storage are in process of being reactivated into service
Why do people say Russian tank storage is bad?
>hundreds of T-62Ms in storage are in process of being reactivated into service
>hundreds of T-62Ms in storage are in process of being reactivated into service
Why do people say Russian tank storage is bad?
because it is
you clearly don’t know anything about vehicle maintenance
If it's so bad why are they able to put hundreds of stored tanks back into service?
The fact that they have thousands in storage but are only able to get a couple hundred up and running says everything.
okay now you're not even trying.
just wait until the gloves come off nafo troon and you will see what trying actually looks like
Aww, sad that the they/them army is making vatnik soup out of the was/were army? Cope and seethe
Well.. are they? Can we see them?
russians will put anything into service regardless of quality. pic related.
Not seeing the problem here. The increased surface area should lead to the gun heating up slower, in turn the gun should stay unwarped for a lot longer.
love myself some incredible cross sections
It is bad because they have better tanks they cant restore like 1000s of t80s and t90s atleast on paper
because that's single-digit percentages of their total listed tanks in storage
What happened to all those thousands of more modern tanks they had in storage?
>are they able to
Let's start there.
>why are they able to
Why do you take anything they say at face value? Are you developmentally challenged? You didn't even post some vatnik article or anything, just stated as much. Why are you such a deranged mongoloid?
How do the Russians put together a small army of tanks? They start with a large army.
>put hundreds of stored tanks back into service
for that you need thousands of stored tanks
They had thousands and now they can only reactivate hundreds.
So its a bit rusty in spots, who cares?
This. Crew is going to die anyway. So why bother? Speaking of which, dead men don't need copper cable, do they? Give me a hand will you?
rust in moving parts is a no no
rust in channels for lubrication is a no no
rust in channels for cooling is a no no
for these to not be garbage they would have to have run like once a year since they were left for storage.
so cover it in spray paint and mark it as QC passed
nobody will notice until it gets to the front
all rubber and leather parts have rotted probably
and mice have eaten some cables as well
basically only metal stuff is okay
so puccians need to do major overhaul for every vehicle on conservation
>rust in moving parts is a no no
>rust in channels for lubrication is a no no
>rust in channels for cooling is a no no
do they even produce WD-40?
What's the issue of restoring some stored tank from 40 years ago?
>What's the issue of restoring some stored tank from 40 years ago?
Exactly this question. It's a fricking machine and one built to military specs at that, not some special fragile magical device. Rust can be dealt with. Seized engines or other parts can be dealt with. There are at least a hundred channels on YouTube where backyard mechanics repair and drive garbage machinery out of its grave so what makes tanks any different?
Electrical systems, fricked hydraulics, and rusted tracks
Combine that with the Army's manpower issues, lack of home manufacturing and diminishing part stockpiles and most of these will likely only be at most partially operational, which matches field anecdotes of Ruskies in tanks without the ability to fire, traverse turrets or dealing with breakdown
>most of these will likely only be at most partially operational
Is fine, partial mobilization, remember?
The problem is vatBlack folk running around 24/7 saying they have they strongest army in the world.
Then when their invasion of europes poorest country stalls, they have to resort to restoring rusted out tanks like its some 70 ford mustang
The issue is, if they had been competent at storing them in the first place, they wouldn’t HAVE to perform a complete rebuild of every tank, and they wouldn’t have to deal with significant rust at all.
The process would be “Hey Vasily, go get some fuel and oil from the depot.”
Is russian, is made to last.
All the fun bits have been sold already, how do you think people got those superyachts.
They don't have a huge dry desert to store them in.
Astrakhan Oblast?
>astrakhan
they probably want to avoid the attention of space mongols
It has to do with ideological differences between the West and East. In the West, under their capitalist system, an object must be constantly working or generating profit. The insinuation that something is simply ins storage, and sitting ily until it needs to be used is unthinkable, as the mind of a westerner would immediatly dirift to concepts like "sunk cost", "storage expenses", "opportunity cost" and the potential return on investment if the equipment were sold as scrap. In the East, things are done differently, and keeping hardware in storage is a reasonable and logical part of the equipment's life cycle, as it should be.
gonna use this line on leftypol and see how long it takes for them to notice
Godspeed my friend
While the Russians do store a lot the concept isn't foreign to the west. The US having aircraft boneyards. Notably in areas that won't rust out the planes. The US also puts old retired navy ships in various forms of standby activation. The US also has warehouses of supplies and stores of tanks. Though I agree that most US stores are active and rotated vs Russian stores that to be used require refurbishment.
if serious you are a moron. Mobilization reserves is a concept universally known in any european army and unlike the churka mongol ziggerstan they actually make sure it is in top shape in ventilated storages with routine check ups.
Reason places like Finland have the second largest artillery stock after russhitia in perfect operating condition ready to bring the thunder down on the steppe mongols
>as the mind of a westerner would immediatly dirift to concepts like "sunk cost", "storage expenses", "opportunity cost" and the potential return on investment if the equipment were sold as scrap.
So, in the West, people actually think and plan things, instead of drinking their 3rd bottle of vodka and giving the local orphans a couple cigarettes to move them to a field for them.
Vodka doesn't get good until around the third bottle.
lol In the US at least parts in storage are taxed so huge numbers of people are devoted to just in time delivery and preventative maintenance. Workers and machines are expensive so we measure how much to the second a machine is used in a day. Can you say hot, hot seat!
t. data analyst in specialized industry.
if you aren't just memeing then you are just wrong about that.
This picture just reminded me that I should get my tetanus shot renewed.
Just a couple of happy guys, what a wholesome image
They probably just sucked each other off.
Here they are btw
Going to front
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rust is nature's camo
spray some wd40 and send it to the front
WAKE ME UP
XAXAXAXA new paint on tanks is bourgeoisie comrade, not necessary *~~*~~*~~
>Imagine thinking that you can't go to war with a fricking tank because it doesn't have your special desired hue.
MFW
>You can even choose a furry suit, if you desire.
Imagine the fear of God some unfortunate chink or zigger would feel when he magdumps into some fricking rainbow husky homosexual and doesn't stop him because there are level IV plates and a combat exoskeleton underneath the fur. You try to run, but the anime eye lenses are equipped with thermal vision. Chemical weapons are useless due to the filtration unit built into the muzzle.
Fricking fund it, please.
Five Nights at Freddy's: Modern Combat
>Gregory the mobiks are sending out another attack wave, time to show them the Fazbear special
I'd reenlist if I could turn my fursuit into a killing machine, instead I have to cope with wearing the head in full tac gear for meme photos instead.
TF? Furry T51-B?
11-Bark
Oh the halcyon days of the cuck cages.
Those are T-72s from last year; they have 6 roadwheels to the T-62's 5. The T-62Ms looked even worse.
Aren't those T-80s since there is three driver's prisms?
Good eye, I didn't notice those.
you can clearly tell by the engine deck
T80B variant, likely T80BV.
those are T-80, moronos
Most of them know but look at the state of it it will be lucky if the driveshaft ain't rusted through or engine still working
Is it even possible to restore something with a turbine engine?
That's actually fake rust camo (RUSTPAT) they're going to blend into the environment in Chernobyl perfectly when they launch a new push to Kiev through there again.
Combined with new Flatnik camo for conscripts, they will be undetectable.
is he okay?
he's just sleeping
>the pelvis is unshattering
Soon the gloves will come off the eyebrow's cauldron
Sometimes I forget Russia used to be a real country.
mobiks gonna die of tetanus before they ever fire a shot in anger
I'm getting tetanus just from looking at this shit
>Russia somehow magically restores all of their tanks
>Russians end up being too busy dying of tetanus to halt the Ukrainian offensives
10.000 stored tanks, one in a hundred can be made to work = 100 tanks.
>hundreds of stored tanks back into service?
Where are they? Show pictures of these tanks, I don't think they even exist though.
Next it's thousands of T-62...tens of thousands... one hundred thousands T-62...A MILLION T-62 TOWARDS KYIV DA DA...
In the mentally ill mind of a russian, reality and fantasy blend. Just like when they thought they could take Kyiv in two days 😀
A Russian tank successfully "returned to service" wouldn't even be considered fit for donation to a museum in the United States
>Why do people say Russian tank storage is bad?
it's a mystery
>Those puddles
Russia is fricking huge. I know they have a dry desert SOMEWHERE why not use that?
Looks like they're looking for usable replacements for rotted out radiators. That's one thing that happens when you don't properly prepare machines for long-term storage.
I would like to see some videos of restorations being done on these.
>storing your shit in the open air
>good
Aside from actual museum pieces, America stores much of their stuff outside [usually in drier places]. The problem here is Russia storing their stuff outside in shitty places like woods and swamps where moisture in the air and ground ruins everything. Not counting shit being looted off of them, too, because they're not being looked after or maintained to any degree. It becomes a way bigger task to restore these things for service because they'll have to gut the hulls of everything and install new stuff which may or may not even be available. America can just pull a random Abrams out of storage, look it over, fill up the fluids, and have it ready to go.
Man, America really got lucky with it's entire geography huh.
the only enemy we have is ourselves
Incredibly lucky.
It's you.
Eh its just that Russian are fricking moronic, they have vast areas of Desert/Low moisture where they could have dumped their tanks for storage, But they didn't because that would involve money or the ability to plan for the future.
There's a reason people call them Pale Black folk.
Well, they're not the only ones with tank scrapyards, and usually what is sent there isn't intended to be used later. This is more of a show of their desperation, raiding tank cemeteries because they ran out.
Look at the empty spaces and fresh tread marks. That's a sign that the vehicles are at least being moved around every once in a while.
Compare it to this
where it's all overgrown and the vehicles are packed together to the point where half of them don't have space to be driven out.
Can't forget what is perhaps the most important difference. One is in a desert, the other is in a russian forest that sees rain, mud, and snow year after year.
you want green you get green, there are several seasons and several tank graveyards in siberia
>ywn make a living just ferrying tanks from point A to B in a bumfrickville rolling stock boneyard army base
it hurts
Anywhere in the north of russia could easily be maintained at 0% humidity year round. Throw a frickin tarp on them for snow fall, make sure youre parked on permafrost and they'd be pristine after 30 years.
The fact that these russian morons dont do this is fricking mind boggling.
>reactivated
more like reexcavated
SOME of the storages are actually roofed or pump dry air into the tanks so they are in better/restorable condition. Not all of them though.
And frankly they are not going to be used as tanks, just self-propelled guns with defense against small arms/shrapnel.
Something like this
homie dats gay
When civilians can count from space lmao.
Because by the time all the cases of corroded load bearing parts get fixed, the rubber rot of essential parts get fixed, the pilfered electronics get replaced and engine issues get fixed, you'll have cannebalized 3-5 fricking tanks. One month of operations down the line and you can strike off another 2 as you have to go out and strip them for spare parts.
This is the issue. This is why Russia is digging out T55's (which it isn't even supposed to have anymore) and T62s despite the fact that it is supposed to have more T80 tanks in storage than the total amount of visually confirmed losses of all tank types.
In simplest terms, Russia's tank supply is fricked because every tank they reactivate will condemn several others to the scrap yard, and by this point their spare part supply is obviously just fricking gone so they have to go out and strip the remaining tanks for parts, meaning that Russia is losing tanks by the hundreds just by keeping hundreds of them in concurrent operation.
This is why "quality has a quantity of its own" tends to fall apart. More counts mean more fuel, more crew, more spare parts, more storage real estate, more ammunition, more visible movement and more need for maintenance crews.
Anon…. To be fair if Stalin were still in charge then the people responsible for maintaining those tanks who failed to properly do so would have been shot. Those in charge who sold off parts for personal gain would have been shot. Those who’s job was shooting anyone that failed to properly do their jobs would have been shot. Those who they would have reported to would have been shot, and everyone’s remaining living family would have been sent to the gulag to work off the cost of the bullets…. Putin likes to act all big and bad. But Stalin actually was…
>put thousands of tanks into storage so you can recover hundreds
genius
Because they probably have 10,000 and they're gonna be able to scrape up 100
My question is…why restore these ancient tanks at all? As I understand it tanks aren’t being used a lot in Ukraine, so why can’t new production be used instead? Is it that Russia seriously has more crews than new tanks? Or, are they going to be used as defensive pillboxes to defund the Crimea or something?
>As I understand it tanks aren’t being used a lot in Ukraine
What the frick gave you that idea? You will struggle to prosecute a modern war without them.
New tanks are made too slowly because Russia mostly just sat on the legacy industrial base left behind by the Soviet Union and let it crumble around them. Refurbishing old tanks is the cheaper option compared to expanding industry to make new tanks faster.
>As I understand it tanks aren’t being used a lot in Ukraine
If tanks aren't being used much then how did Russia manage to lose over 2000 of them?
>tanks aren't being used at all
>Russians are producing new tanks at an appreciable rate
>Russia has a surplus of trained crews
Read a fricking newspaper, anon.
>mfw I'll never be in a field of tanks with a hammer and a bottle of vodka trying to get as many going as possible
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how old the T-62 is? Looking at current satellite images I can't find any M60 tanks at the Sierra Army Depot.
>Looking at current satellite images I can't find any M60 tanks at the Sierra Army Depot.
M60s arent kept around in useable condition by the US
last M60 was phased out from the national guard sometime in the 90s
existing stocks that arent museum pieces or target drones are mostly just used as parts donors for foreign users who still use them
most of the cold war stock were sold off to allies like israel and turkey
only 1500 M60A3 with thermal sights were ever actually in active service with the US, the contract for more than 3000 of them was only finished as an obligation to those who wanted them
>existing stocks that arent museum pieces or target drones are mostly just used as parts donors for foreign users who still use them
Old tanks are more likely used as static targets than converted to remote operation. When it comes to M60, its variants and spare parts cannibalization, there are M88 armored recovery vehicles and couple of other engineering variants still around, basically M88 is going to be around for long time, other variants are going away soon and replaced with similar Abrams variants, if those aren't already gone.
>hundreds of tanks being refurbished
at current burn rates, 100 tanks lasts them a little over a week