>human guided missile
>mass produced by hundreds
>needs to carried by g4m mothership
>all motherships shot down halfway through by us fighters but few exceptions
>sinked only 1 single ship in the entire war
what a fail.
>human guided missile. >mass produced by hundreds. >needs to carried by g4m mothership
ships?
They were carried to the target by Jap strategic bombers, 3 or 4 per bomber. This was necessary to give them useful range. The vast majority of them were intercepted before getting in range and shot down before ever launching from the bombers.
Only 1 could be carried by a jap bomber afaik.
Motorjet and turbojet versions were planned.
>3 or 4 per bomber
Only one. You might refer to a similar German project where a large long range carrier plane was meant to carry severyl kamikazes in striking range.
So why did it fail, it should have worked. And I bet that ship cost way more than those planes.
the MXY 7 Ohka has a short burn time for its rocket motor, so has to airlifted close to the target,
G4M with one baka bomb on board is operating slightly above its max carrying capacity.
G4M being so overloaded has more lift induced Drag .ie greater angle of attack to maintain altitude,
also parasite drag from the "Yokosuka MXY 7 Ohka" being externally mounted.
so thus slow top speed, low climb rate, poor fuel economy,
to help the G4M survive they were given some fighter escorts,
but by this point there is a lack of fuel and well trained fighter pilots.
and the American Navy had many more AAA guns and Fighter combat air patrol's to protect their boats.
>So why did it fail,
RADAR
It looks beautiful though
>sinked
>rocket powered
They should have used a V1 style pulsejet.
The pilots brain would have left through his ears by the time the oka was halfway to its target
The vibration on pulse jet engines would make hitachi wands blush
>The vibration on pulse jet engines would make hitachi wands blush
Thanks for putting the idea of a pulse jet powered vibrator into my head.
It's not as if he'd be needing his brain after the flight.
Forget using an explosive payload on your kamikazes. Just build them around a moronicly powerful solid fuel rocket, with a reinforced nose shaped like a penetrator. have the pilots glide the aircraft towards the target, line up their (very) final attack run, and scream 'BANZAI' as they hit the big red button on their control panel. That should leave you with a very large, burning, hole in the straight through the target ship, the ship taking on water, and probably quite a few fires leading to secondary explosions.
>sometimes going all Loony Tunes isn't completely moronic.
That's pretty much what the Ohka was. Glided until the pilot was on a diving or level approach, then he hit the rockets for a short and fast dash.
Even the explosive warhead had too much penetration for anything short of a battleship or carrier. One punched clean through a destroyer and exploded on the outside. It was a scary weapon hindered by its horrible launch platform. Had the land-based ones gone into operation and had a longer flight time (using jets) then it could have been very bad.
>hindered by its horrible launch platform
Strap a bunch of them to an A4 rocket and fire it at an American flotilla. The gliding ability of the Ohka means that the A4/V2s inherent inaccuracy is a lot less of an issue, and while the maximum acceleration of the A4 (6Gs) would be unpleasant the pilots would almost certainly survive for long enough to commit shipuku as planned.
They might survive launch but then decoupling from the rocket to begin a second stage of flight may be difficult. Plus those liquid rockets weren't exactly the most stealthy, or reliable, so launches could be stopped. Or result in explosion on the pad.
If effort will be made to train pilots to endure harsh conditions and perform a mission then they may as well be trained to come back from that mission. Along with resources allocated to reusable aircraft. But all of this ignores the material shortages Japan had.
>But all of this ignores the material shortages Japan had.
True. Japan was probably doing about as well as they could when you consider the economic and cultural difficulties they were dealing with - that doesn't mean we can't imagine rocket launched swarms of piloted kamikazes though.
If we're trying to make sure that the pilots survive though then the whole thing gets a lot trickier to deal with. I'm assuming that even if we could find a way to increase the pilots chance of surviving a successful kamikaze strike from 0% that IJN search and rescue would be stretched to recover all those pilots, even in Japans territorial waters.
limiting ourselves to the technology available at the time would probably end up with some kind of knock off Fritz-X style remote control glide bomb - which would probably be beyond Japans capabilities at the time, and would have worked with just about any of their longer range bombers.
Thank you.
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>knock off Fritz-X style remote control glide bomb - which would probably be beyond Japans capabilities at the time
Actually Japan had a rather large research and testing program of remote controlled missiles, but they were VERY efficient in destroying their files before the US troops occupied the country.
Good for them, I guess. Although it might have been interesting for a large group of Japanese scientists/engineers to get Paperclipped after the war - rather than just the creepy bio-warfare psychopaths from Unit 731.
Their destruction of military documents was really extensive, to the extent that for example the exact shape of the O-I tank wasn't known until a set of construction papers was discovered a year ago.
Some details of Yamatos gun turrets are still unknown to this day cause even after the ships were sunk, records, plans and even photos were destroyed. As far as i know there are TWO existing pics of the Shinano still around..
That sounds like the kind of OPSEC and data security that should be held up as an example for the world. I work in archives, so while the idea of destroying data doesn't sit particularly easily with me if some information needs to be destroyed then it should be done so thoroughly that even a full investigation turns up no reference to it.
Well, it sure helped that all they had to do was burning papers. No computers for the occupation forces to try restoring data on, no data clouds that could be hacked, just a few sets of sheets that you can easily dispose of. Sometimes modern technology foesn't necessarily improve security.
While it would probably have been very difficult to make a antiship ballistic missile based on a V2 mated to an Okha work, I just wanna throw in that the US extensively used two stage V2 sounding rockets called "Bumper".
A12 out of 10
Actually both Japan and Germany experimented with such planes, though they were meant to ram bombers, not ships. None of those ever made it into production though.
>due to never being built, WT players would be upset
Meanwhile at gaijin entertainment
>wow they built one and it never flew
>Let's sell it as a premium
>Proof? Secret documents*~~
That really gets yo mama's roast beef flaps sizzling.
>V1 style pulsejet
supposedly, it went about as fast as they expected (minimally-trained) pilots to be able to aim it
not that it ultimately mattered
They did, a project called the Kawanishi Baika. It was not ready when the war ended.
Also, the Germans built a manned V1 rocket, the so called Reichenberg Gerät.
That's why bigger, land- or submarine-based versions were in development, the Ohka model 43.
>The pilots brain would have left through his ears by the time the oka was halfway to its target
Not necessarily true, Nazi Germany played around with piloted versions of the V-1 during 1944. Granted, it had a nasty habit of shaking off its own wings in flight and killing the test pilots, but Hanna Reitch and Heinz Kensche managed to survive testing it so it could have worked in theory at least.
Did they even sink anything? I think one hit a carrier, but all it managed to do was blow up an AA mount.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mannert_L._Abele
Anyone here watched The wienerpit?
i did, i cried.
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKdE9dRWvcw
>230 of 250 Imperial Japanese aviators dead
oof
reminder that the kamikazes were the only mass anti-ship cruise missile attacks launched in history, and the US navy is the only navy that has anything resembling experience in defending against them
What's your limit for "mass"? Dozens? Hundreds?
Baka.