How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap?
t. totally not russian military intelligence
How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap? t. totally not russian military intelligence
How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap?
t. totally not russian military intelligence
It's a mexican standoff
It's probably the single easiest to contest route in the world. Literally just infantry with man-portable arms and drones could make it unusable
Mines, trenches and AT infantry in the dense forest of the area.
Also, heavy air bombardment of RUssian forces and a Polish counter attack.
There are no roads from Russia to Belaruse going through the gap. It's two PL-LT roads surrounded by forests.
>brigade sized
Two brigades currently being expanded to a division
Your question is invalid anon, because for NATO to need to defend the Suwalki Gap it is implied that Russia has any offensive capabilities left.
Just pretend that vatniks are right and Russia has the good shit hidden away until they get serious
Nuclear mines it is then
They have Armatas.
>They have Armatas.
It would appear you don’t need anything other than a basic minefield and some guys with drones to finish off whoever crawls out of the burning wrecks. Maybe supplement it with a few ditches if you feel like it.
>Kaliningrad
>Belarus
truly some real heavyweights to fend off
The fact it would be an act of war against the EU and NATO drawing 36 nations into the war.
check
Water-filled lakes
>defense
Nuke Moscow and Minsk.
>Nuke Moscow and Minsk.
Obviously, but what about the defense?
Kalingrad has to be protected from czech nafo attack
it is impossible because western stealth aircraft can just ignore your air defense and rape you constantly
Freikorps 2.0
you heard it here first anons
Yah, isn’t the plan to go after Kaliningrad and make the whole thing a moot point? It’s that whole ‘I don’t have a gap to worry about. You have an encirclement to die in’ kind of thing.
There's more chance of Kaliningrad becoming independent and joining the EU in 15 years than mainland Russia forcefully making a ground route to it.
What in the world would a independent Kaliningrad be based on? It's a Russian colony with no identity of its' own.
They could try to do a singapore or something. Tax haven that interfaces with Russia but with actual rule of law so people don't get their money stolen
>Tax haven that interfaces with Russia
> with actual rule of law so people don't get their money stolen
These two things are not compatible
If you want to know what a Russian controlled independent Prussia would be like, you need to look at Russian minority in the Baltics and realize they wouldn't have any "European minded" people reigning them in.
First of all, most of the Russians currently occupying it are in one way or another related to Russian Military or Intelligence Services.
It would be filled with people who hate Europe, actively work to undermine it, acting in Moscow interests.
Politics would be split between the biggest globohomosexual wienersuckers you can image and Russian supernationalists you would think could only exist in parody, both on Kremlin payroll, of course.
It would be Russian world condensed to its most densest form:
10% of the population would le intellectual Russian doomer """liberals""" and 90% "Stalin did nothing wrong. God bless the Tsar! Russia strong" troglodytes.
Either Prussia stays occupied under Russians, in which case it is an isolated fortress, or it's current illegal population gets completely deported, because an independent Russian citystate would be an even bigger headache for European Union than the current enclave.
shhh. Despite the ukranian war doing miracles bringing in common sense to the moronic westerners they still have a long way to go until they start understanding how alien the asiatic steppe mongols brain really is
Best fate for Konigsberg is to deport the squatting ziggers from its ruins back to motha puccia and then ending its misery by 50/50 dividing it between Lithuania and Poland. Let it become a true border town with the river passing through it marking the official border
They already LARP as germanski prussians
Yeah it's hilarious, they larp as le heckkin Prussians despite the fact Stalin had deported every last native from there and imported a vast variety of mongols.
t. been in Kaliningrad this summer
Could be interesting. There are a few examples in history where a national identity was founded on a civilization that had long since faded and had no descendants left.
One example of a national identity founded on a civilization that had long since faded and had no direct descendants left is the case of Ancient Egypt. Modern Egypt, with its national identity, is largely based on the legacy of Ancient Egypt, a civilization that thrived along the Nile River for thousands of years. However, the ancient Egyptian civilization gradually declined and eventually disappeared with the conquest of Alexander the Great in 332 BCE and subsequent periods of foreign rule.
Despite the absence of direct descendants from the ancient Egyptians, the people of modern Egypt have embraced the ancient civilization's cultural heritage, symbols, and historical significance as a foundational element of their national identity. The modern Egyptian flag, for example, features the eagle of Saladin, a reference to the great Muslim military leader of the Crusades, but it also bears the colors of the Egyptian Revolution of 1952, emphasizing a connection to the ancient civilization.
In this case, the continuity of the national identity is not based on a direct genetic or ethnic link to the ancient civilization, but rather on a cultural and historical continuity that transcends the disappearance of the original civilization. The people of modern Egypt see themselves as heirs to the rich heritage of Ancient Egypt, even though they may not share direct ancestry with the ancient Egyptians.
>There are a few examples in history where a national identity was founded on a civilization that had long since faded and had no descendants left.
Unironically, both Germans and Lithuanians are living descendants of Prussians, Lithuanians are descendants of both Old Prussians and German ones due to how history shaped out in the last 200 years.
>t. My family emigrated and assimilated to Lithuania post 1945
>and joining the EU
Please god no.
That places is a bigger dump than Chernobil.
It's full of russians, they forced all the germans and poles they didn't kill out.
Make it a nature reserve and the capital district for the EU. Could stick the UN there too if you really wanna.
>How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap?
Preemptive decapitation strike on Russia.
But why are my russian work-colleagues so fricking confident they Roll with their Panzers into the Rheinland?
>meme gap
Hello
Best defense is a good offense.
Conquer Kaliningrad. No more gap. Especially with how easy it is to just block Kaliningrad from Russian supplies by blockading their ports.
And for the same reasons, the Sulwaki gap isn't a problem when Lake NATO (formerly known as the Baltic Sea) exists.
Why doesn't the local ruler just declare kaliningrad independent now that the central authority has proven itself to be incompetent and essentially unable to reach him, it happened all the time in later Roman empire that r*ssia is totally the heir of
Becasue it's entirely filled with Russian glowies and army officers.
Russian forces would disintegrate about as fast as their air-defense would once they collide with F-35s in DEAD
Simple, make Kaliningrad strategically useless.
Render the ports unusable with a massive airstrike and park a Carrier Group in the Baltic.
just like kyiv was a short hop way and aaannny moment now from coming encircled right?
Youre acting like The poles wouldnt jump to defend the gap with their good forces at all + the brigade sized Lithuanian military wouldnt be able to stall the russians
there's no way that happens now that binland is in NATO, even assuming it ever was possible. when Sweden joins it will be even less possible
Bro it's not 2021 anymore, we all know now the "mighty russian bear" can be stopped by just a strip of old mines and few artillery shots
>invading Kaliningrad
>no more gap
Simple as.
Královec je Český!
Stok į eilę
We refused Kalliningrad in the 50s, why would we take that shithole with mutilated architecture and 1million + subhumans?
Give it to Czech or Poles, Idc, I just want that shithole gone from Russia
I would only consider taking it if it was genocided down to every single man, woman and child
>I would only consider taking it if it was genocided down to every single man, woman and child
That's the idea. God I hope Karaliaučius gets fricking bombed to the stone age if they ever think that starting shit is a good idea. We need to buy more artillery and M142s and double team them with Poland
No, I would literally only accept it if we formed ss like death squads and gone house to house shooting everyone in the head, then burning them in the mass grave.
Anything less is non-acceptable. That will never happen, and because of that Poland or Czech should take those barely literate mongoloids.
>Give it to Poles
no
>Give it to Czechs
yes, it'd be really funny
t.pole
I actually would prefer either Germany cause we miss having border with them, or Poland to destroy that eyesore of the exclave. We want only to take rest of Curonian spit and Tilsit, cause those places are of historical and cultural significance to us.
Literal reddit take
Pile up a few dozen washing machines on each side of the gap surrounded by mines and just watch the show.
it will never happen
the reason why the russians could want to close the gap is if they invade the Baltics so they can close the baltics off from reinforcement by land. giving them enough time to get to ports before NATO can ship in enough troops to keep them from over running the Baltics
Ukraine has shown that russia can't get or keep the tempo needed to get to the ports in the 3-4 days for NATO reinforcements to land there.
If you can't get to the ports there is no point in closing the gap and you have no chance of taking the Baltics.
>defenses to defend the Suwalki gap
>defenses
you attack into Kaliningrad, moron-kun
I'd set up a complex line of bunkers and other fortifications and obstacles interconnected with underground trains and highway tunnels. Perhaps name this "Line" after myself, because it will be very successful and will cement my name in history.
However, if Lithuania doesn't like the idea of this existing on their border in particular, I'll simply ask them to continue the fortification across their borders to avoid hostilities.
While situation in Belarus is fricked,we can count on Kartofflenko not to mobilize Belarusian army (as long as he lives)
So the east side will be attacked by russian troops only.
But at the end of the day, Poland has to invoke historical union with Lithuania so we can justify our preemptive clay grab of neighbouring towns in Belarus just to make sure that frontline is further away.
T. Pole that lived most of life near east border.
Uniornincally, Lukashenko is key to status quo with Belarus.
He dies, we get russian coup.
We need to weaken the Russoids to make sure it's not possible
Bomb everything in Belarus and Kaliningrad (or just nuke entire russia)
push into kaliningrad and bomb the rest of Russia and Belarus into the stone age
Are we still pretending the outline scenario for a NATO military exercise that Bild got hold of, is a top level German intelligence leak of things to come?
>I will NOOOK
sure thing, buddy. NATO will just nuke you back.
>totally not russian military intelligence
>Asking strategy and tactics on PrepHole
you are, arent you? it just makes sense
haha, cmon, not even Russians are this dumb, im just a regular old /k/ user
>haha, cmon, not even Russians are this dumb, im just a regular old /k/ user
So oook, it means Nato won't interfere, da?
pidor, stop projecting how your kind leaves others for dead and then screams "who cares, a real pidorussian would not get themselves killed" or something like that
Put some brewskis in the fridge and wait for Latvian peasants to handle it with hunting rifles. The Russian army that could have made an attempt at the gap (and die there in a JDAM arclight) was pretty much destroyed in the Kiev offensive. A few mobiks in Buhankas are not a threat to anyone.
>nuh uh, the alliance that relies on exactly one thing, the obligation of mutual defense, would just throw away the members that got invaded, that would totally not make the entire alliance fall apart instantly as no member nation would have any reason to stay in an alliance that doesn't do what it's supposed to
The zigger mind simply cannot comprehend signing an international treaty without already planning to violate its terms.
This entire Sulwaki gap issue is for armchair generals only.
If Russia starts a war with NATO, it will get absolutely crushed.
It doesn't matter what happens in that area. Whether Russia attacks there or not, and whether they manage to connect their territories or not is irrelevant.
>This entire Sulwaki gap issue is for armchair generals only.
At this point it's just clickbait for Mongoloids, like woah dude look at muh chokepoint, they could totally heckin Blitzkrieg NATO! Nevermind that at most, two months later Kaliningrad would be rubble and the only people still working at the VVS would be the clerks shuffling around papers with the downed and destroyed aircraft on them.
Oh no, Oleg! I see you've measured eggs and chairs are broken! Ohh whatever we will do if you will show up with battalion of teminally ill in buhankas and all those scary Rosteh robots. I sure hope THAT will never happen owo
if you're so sure, why haven't you invaded already?
How do you people reconcile the idea that NATO will abandoooon everyone east of Germany in case of war with the idea that Russia HAD to invade and get their men killed by the tens of thousands along with losing their entire Soviet legacy stockpile of ammunition and hardware, because Ukraine can't be allowed to join NATO?
Surely if Russia attacked NATO member Ukaine they would get just abandoooned as well no? is the enemy a bumbling idiot and also all powerful again?
>You'll be abandoned by nato even in case of non-nuclear conventional war
Yup just like Ukraine... oh wait
Well to be fair we sorta did by beating around the bush with it (initially) despite supposedly guaranteeing their independence.
>defenses
Why would you engage slavs in their own dumb game?
NATO would rather do the mobile warfare and bombard anything that russia tries to move over the border, and then with an surgical strike take over Kaliningrad and set up an independent government there.
>mines
>infantry
>armor
>pelt any ziggers and zigger armor with JDAMs because L M F A O they will NOT be able to contest air space with even the weakest of NATO air forces
You haven't actually read the Budapest memorandum.
It says Russia will uphold Ukrainian territorial integrity. What else is there to say?
>Russians will 100% just nuke it then
They won't.
But if they do:
>Sweden and Finland in wrong color
I know what i wish for next Christmas
How would you reform the Russian psyche so shit threads like this don't get posted
So the US did not, in fact, promise to defend Ukraine, and you just lied?
What a very Russian thing to do.
Yeah, i literally said you right. Why so mad, mutt?
No, he lied about what the treaty was about
then backpedaled.
> You won't know when russian invasion hits you. But here are some signs.
> First you'll notice Peskov and all the russian official twitter accounts claiming vigorously that never will they ever step one inch in Suwalki gap
> Then you might notice very high number of old, tipsy and unshaven lads from PMC БOMЖ concentrating in their buhankas and MT-LB obr.2024 around your borders.
> followed closely by chechens
> Then local TikTok feed gets filled with intimate videos of tender love of soldiers and chechen bullshit.
> Then local tinder feed gets filled with uzbeks, tajiks, sirs and Black folk.
> You listen to your radios, but all the frequencies in plain text are filled with somebody yelling in drunk stupor or russian curses, effortlessly linked together to form whole messages without single coherent word
> that gives you an idea of russian jamming and encryption capabilities
> Then first reports come in from grocery stores looted, cashiers raped and alcoholics begging for potatoes or gasoline. As well as stolen washing machines and toilets.
> Then you recieve first reports of unknown planes falling. Followed by earsplitting cussing on the radio. That's russian air defence at work.
> and only then russian invasion begins 😉
>PMC БOMЖ
Oh I wish a zigger would. You homosexuals think you're living through a total war because Ukraine is kicking your asses, but in reality Ukies are playing with kiddie gloves because they need to placate westoids. They aren't invading you and they aren't skinning your soldiers alive.
We don't need to give a frick about any of that. If you ever come here, your motherland is getting bopped and invaded on day 1 and your soldiers' skulls are getting taken as souvenirs. You're going to play the japs on the pacific, homosexual, except with a worse kda.
Just bomb the shit out of kalingrad lol, its basically just a large millitary base so frick everyone in it
This. All german heritage was destroyed long ago by soviets anyway, level the place and salt the earth.
Dad told me a story. When he was only dating my mom, they figured they'd sneak in there, so 2nd half of eighties. It was basically closed military zone back then. It was quite a sight. Whole abandoned, overgrown towns, shelled but retaining that european architectural look. Plane parts in the woods. Piles of human bones/ uniforms etc on the beaches. Interesting stuff
6 HIMARS, 200 Bradleys with infantry, 4 F-35s
Simple, you don't, you prepare some units for counterattacks when its taken
You understand that Russia has 1/3rd of the population of the US and 1/7th the population of NATO? A war of attrition would not be in Russias favor even if by some miracle they could keep casualties to a 1:1 ratio (lol)
Defense? With how what's left of the Russian military has been performing you could just out flank and encircle any push they make while Belarus never moves and claims innocence as usual.
Sure anon, sure, just as NATO is gonna abandon Ukraine any minute now, NATO isn't CSTO, get it through your head
Oh nothing, russia could totally just roll thru it, dont even need nukes anymore, lets go
>defenses of the Souvlaki Gap
I don't like how this is a leading question. "HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES AGAINST THE GREAT BIG BEAR I'M SCURRRED"
In reality the question should be what desperate measures will Russia attempt in order to stop Koningsburg from being the star in the latest and greatest gangbang video ever.
No pidor exclave, no Souvlaki Gap.
>souvlaki gap
yum
Here's something to consider: it'd require way less effort to gas homosexuals like you.
No, no. Anyone posting ‘memes’ like that should be rewarded generously with a free, one way plane ticket to Russia.
Just withdraw forces a few dozen KM, Russian logistics will implode completely and then we counterattack
Now that Finland is in nato you just put a considerable force there and threaten St. Petersburg with it. Finland and Sweden joining NATO has been one of the worst consequences of the Ukrainian war for Russia.
>How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap
Easy. Proportional deterrence. For every 1 cm of NATO soil, 10 million russians are to be nuked.
bbut i thought poland was based and trad! did my /misc/zisters lie to me?
Russia cant into manoeuvrer warfare any more - if current speed of advance of Russian forces in Ukraine is any indicator then it is not possible without Chinese help
>- if current speed of advance of Russian forces
its fricking winter, its snowing, the terrain is essentially impassable on much of the massive front
are you people Really THIS stupid?
like really?
The Russian front has barely moved for two full years already. The most recent success they could claim was Bakhmut.
Not to mention winter hasn't stopped Russia from attempting major offensive actions, lest we forget about the disaster that was Vuhledar.
China might unironically help, they hate Lithuania for whole Taiwan thingy
I've always found this 'gap' thing a meme. In a hypothetical war situation, why the frick would they be coming through there? Like I know the idea is
>Lithuania is taken and they then come through this gap
But why would they when they could go through Belarus?
because it's the narrowest point, genius
The point of Suvalki gap is to isolate Baltics from the rest of NATO.
With Finland and Sweden in NATO, Suvalki gap has lost a lot of its political power, but it still is threat
Because Baltics put together are barely 6 million people, out of which 1/3th are slavoids with questionable allegiance. They can't form strong enough army due to population size alone to defend against Russia, even though they invest heavily into military. Whole Russian plan is to cut off reinforcements.
That's all moot with Finland joining cause new Nato plan in case of the invasion Poland and Finland invading Russia themselves, thus making frontline 3000+km long, and invading Kalliningrad asap while planes from Nordics gain air dominance. There's a reason Poland keeps full mechanized division with tanks near Suwalki, and that Suwalki is marshy forested are and natural chokepoint for invaders.
It took Russia two months to take Mariupol, when the Baltics have three of those as capitals, in addition to other cities. It'd take them long enough to take it to make it very awkward for the West not to defend them
Plus, the Russians won't have much fun anymore once this homie starts dumping US Marines.
Again, what stops NATO from retsking it? I thiught it was accepted that baltics will be overrun and that it is NATO's task to retake them
Not that anon but i'll chime in.
>what stops NATO from retsking it? I thiught it was accepted that baltics will be overrun and that it is NATO's task to retake them
Because there will be nothing no take. As shown in ukraine russia brings death and destruction to their alleged brothers. There would be no mercy for balts or poles or finns. Only mass graves and ruins would be left. That's why NATO doctrine changed. Russian forces have to be stopped/destroyed before they can do much damage.
Invade Kaliningrad and reclaim European soil.
The issue is now solved.
Why does everybody think that the Baltic states are just the Baltic states? There are thousands of non-Baltic state troops and equipment there.
Hell, there's German Brigade, American base of few thousand burgers and Nato joint base in Lithuania alone
There's just vatnik cope "Putin will raise the eyebrow and everybody will leave" or "we will nuke baltics and nobody will nuke us back, would you die for them, disregarding that nuking Baltics would leave Moscow and St.Petersburg radioactive wasteland cause wind mostly blows east"
>Theres german brigade
No there is not. Germany will be MAYBE ready to deploy a brigade in 2027 (most likely not).
Deploying starting 2024, deployed by 2027, read.
Skeleton crew doesn't constitute a brigade. It's like saying germany operates f35, when the first planes will start arriving in 2026.
their mission is to die anyways
You could have said that with a straight face before April 2022, not now.
>disregarding that nuking Baltics would leave Moscow and St.Petersburg radioactive wasteland cause wind mostly blows east"
doomers are morons with their NOOK hysteria. Common warhead calibers dont produce anywhere near enough fallout to be much of a anything. Much less a single head detonation even with groundburst. With small tactical warheads you could airburst one of the airport runways and a week later have personal repairing the damage prepping new flights
It’s already a narrow are and static defenses are a meme unless you’re actually going to mine the ever loving shit out of the area in peacetime. The real answer is to counterattack into Kaliningrad as soon as possible after the commencement of a Russian/Belarusian offensive.
Russia and Belarus wouldn't be able to hide a force capable of breaking through the Suwalki Gap without being noticed by NATO ISR assets. NATO was already well aware of Russian troop concentrations around Ukraine and warned them weeks or even months before the invasion kicked off. And the Baltics don't pussyfoot around with their defense like the western Euro nations do. They wouldn't hesitate to mine the entire gap just to make everything harder for Russia.
Yes but have you considered west won't provide intelligence to them for some reason? Have you considered they don't have an army?
Rassha strong
That’s why I said “unless you’re actually going to mine the ever loving shit out of the area in peacetime”
I don't get why everyone is so obsessed with Suwałki gap and why everyone thinks Russia would attack it in order to connect to Kaliningrad. Stop looking at maps with arrows and take a look at local terrain and geography. On Polish side border with Belarus and Kaliningrad near the gap are both filled with dense forest and the terrain in between is filled with lakes and hills, while Lithuania besides forest on eastern border and the capital Vilnus is then just a giant flat path into Kalinigrad. Also, Poland is the larger country with more troops, so it would be able to concentrate a lot of troops on the gap, making it super hard to get through. Actual realistic scenario for Russia to quickly connect to Kaliningrad is through less defensible less populated Lithuania.
On Lithuanian side German and American bases are right there, automatically starting ww3 cause even if Krauts and Americans would like not to upkeep nato promises, their soldiers dying on the first hours will make their public furious and make them join the war asap. That's the whole point of them being there. Their whole job is to die.
Well duh, it's an open secret that Americans in Berlin during cold War, now in South Korea and in Lithuania are not there to 1v10000 their enemies but to act as political hostages forcing US to react and get involved once they die. Also, it's an open secret that the NATO eastern flank defense plan is to instantly invade and neutralize Kaliningrad once the shit hits the fan.
>automatically starting ww3
lmao no. Regional war in east euro sure. You have to be a moron to think the war will ever go beyond being a conventional one centered in and around the baltic states and maybe ukraine if they grab the initiative and start fricking with the ziggers on their occupied clay
it will be pretty much like Ukraine with more direct involvement this time, mainly covering the gaps the micro states are lacking in like air power and EW while they play the actual on ground combat blood price. Foreign ground units by them are, as always, either advisors doing specialist work or training them
So is the future of war really just two armies using smart munitions and drones to find and fix enemy positions while a screen force of PBI hides out in holes to mark the front line?
Which is just an evolution of post-Napoleonic tactics where two armies use heavy artillery and cavalry to find and fix enemy positions while a screen force of rifled infantry hide out in foxholes and trenches to mark the front line.
War never changes.
This one seems to have really changed. I see almost no maneuver being executed at all and the units sent out to attack are very small
That's because Ukraine and Russia aren't superpower-level militaries and neither side has been able to secure air superiority, which is a MASSIVE enabler for maneuver warfare.
It doesn't seem a necessary conclusion that the air force will dominate future wars. The west has been testing their weapon systems against Russia extensively and did believe they would be able to run a breakout offensive to Crimea with the equipment possessed. I think this stalemate is what peer conflict looks like
The West heavily underestimated the extent to which Russia would mine the shit out of the entire frontline, and even though Ukraine was supplied with mineclearers, the mineclearing vehicles were always constantly being bombarded with artillery when they were spotted.
The US sort of forgot that the biggest reason they were able to easily clear Iraq's extensive minefields within hours during Desert Storm was because they had aggressively bombed literally every artillery piece that could have conceivably threatened their engineering teams.
This doesn't defeat the main problems of the war, which is that there is n strategic of even tactical surprise possible with satellites and drones, and abundant ATGM systems are capable of stonewalling armored cavalry charges.
This is largely down to both Ukraine and Russia's critical lack of offensive capabilities. They are both missing massed airpower which is a critical component in combined arms warfare. Drones and ballistic missiles can only get you so far when it comes to a static front.
why don't you believe modern AA systems are capable of taking down airpower?
Because the fact that Russia is still bleeding AA assets to a country that pretty much has a token air force and the US/NATO spending the last five decades developing SEAD/DEAD weapons and doctrines indicate static IADS alone won't be enough to repel a competent and well equipped air force. Similar to how mines cannot meaningfully stop an enemy advance by themselves.
https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/about-wwi/trench-warfare
The gap isn't strategic in the slightest. It's only value is in the imaginary border lines. In the event of a full scale war the frontlines will all where they do. It's not like that section of land is magical and the only way to cross northeast-southwest or cross northwest-southeast. You can just go around it depending on where the front is.
superior airpower and drone swarms, russia has proven it wouldn't last 48hrs in the sky in a confrontation with NATO
other way arround tho
its russians that have gay orgies in the military
oh no
please don't nuke kaliningrad russia
please no
>be russia
>have own version of nato
>armenia asks for help
>do nothing
>start screeching on how nato would do the same
>How would you set up defenses to defend the Suwalki gap?
I would shoot the Russians and Belarusians with guns
>poland
>lithuania
if either one beefs up defenses, it imperils the other to do the same. anyone with a brain, yes even russians, will take the path of least resistance
The Suwalki gap was a threat up until February 24th 2022, after that Kaliningrad became entirely isolated. Belarus wouldn't participate in a hot war and Russia couldn't even spare a T-54 to even look in that direction.
We need to build a wall
>Yeah just like us promised to defend ukraine in 90s lol
Even if this were true, why are you so indignant that the US is supplying Ukraine?
article 5 is purposely vague
I have already emailed the answer to Lloyd Austin and I expect to be paid soon.
>The year is 2025
>Gay Colony has been established
>Increased radio chatter in Kaliningrad
>Russian forces are massing on the border
>NATO prepares for large-scale warfare
>Russian forces cross into the Gay Colony
>NATO personnel are airlifted into Poland
>An emergency UNSC meeting is called
>Baltic heads of state evacuate to Finland
>F35s do the elephant walk
>US goes to DEFCON 2
>E-4 sighted over Washington DC
>Minuteman missiles are readied for launch
>B52s lumber above Poland
>Russians only crossed the border to get fricked in the ass
They should have cut off land access to Kaliningrad as part of the current war. Giving in to Russian threats about it was a b***h move.
Why would you defend the Suwalki gap? What tactical advantage does moving from Belarus to Königsberg have?
Phalanx, horse archers and slingers.
10 million trillion mines and minelayer artillery
>the Suwalki gap
The real challenge for Russia would be holding entire Konigsberg. If the legal route is not available why'd you contest a narrow corridor trough marshland? Just take any route available to your target.
It might be tempting to pinch a 50km corridor with small resources at first, but then you force yourself into defending TWO 300km borders.
The Ukraine SMO shows that Russia probably won't even get halfway through the gap before they're BTFO by NATO air superiority.
>Russian territory
A road is a road. This isn't heartland.
Your conclusion is nigtarded considering containment already broke the USSR and Warsaw Pact.
Russia already lost a much greater contest but because zoomers weren't alive then they don't know it happened.
Carpet bomb from St. Pete's to Vladivostok just in case. Wipe that God-forsaken shithole off the face of this earth. Complete Russian genocide.
Based moderate
Have top notch intelligence that has infiltrated russian communications up to putin. That way, you know months in advance when they plan anything.
As soon as the first group crosses the border, the stealth bombers circling over Moscow undetected can drop their loads.
Don't you ever wonder why the US knew months before the Ukrainian invasion? Or why Ukrainians air defense suddenly weren't at their original position and rhssians couldn't destroy them?
Can find the articles now, but some years ago US dropped some info that could only have been gotten from Putins own desk. The russians are owned so hard.
Bomb Russian forces to shit whenever they step on Polish soil, a Franco-German force should be able to mop Kaliningrad up while the poles hold the Belorussian border and forces from the Nordic countries and Great Britain deploy in the Baltic. Russians are troglodytes so you should be able to deploy forces in advance all over the region and all the NATO armies would be in high alert with their more mobile units ready to redeploy east on notice.
>surely THIS time the US won't keep their word
Putin would get a hellfire katana up his cooter within the DAY and you dumb homosexuals should never doubt this fact for even a second
I'd invade Belarus
Nobody serious sees Konigsberg as vatnikstan proper, not even vatniks themselves. If ziggers think they can try and take bites out of the baltic trio then Konigsberg is fair game
That goal is and always was to reunite Kalingrad with Russia proper by annexing the Baltic states. Had, in 2022, Russia used their entire force to bum rush the Baltic states they could have, theoretically, held them in such a state that the European states would baulk at trying to get them back as being 'too costly'.
>n-n-no they wouldn't!
I'm looking at what happened with Ukraine. Germany, France and so on twiddled their thumbs until the UK had to keep breaking taboos and guilting them into doing it. It took months because each and every time they expected Russia to win. When it was clear they would not, then they started backing. Yes, NATO could defeat Russia if they did this hypothetical invasion but it would have taken losses and if it devolved into the situation it is now, even more so.
Russia is preparing to do it anyway, to try and bumrush the Baltics, because they see the West has having used up a lot of its weapons, distracted by the West Asia and not having the willpower to do it. Especially in an election year.
Line it with potato fields. Lukashenka would be powerless to advance.
I have a plan
I would build cheap vodka stores along the border. Russians would be too drunk to fight and easy to kill. Maybe a few gay bars would be useful too. Russian soldiers are known to enjoy homosexual sex. They would be too tired and their anuses too messed up to even take a few steps, let alone fight.
>station some dudes along the Belarusian border (don't need a lot really.)
>send a bunch of others to kalingrad, curb-stomp the ruskies and then bottle whatever remains of their forces in the city and wait for them to starve to death or surrender
>while those guys are still starving, take whatever amount of men that aren't needed to keep the vatniks pinned and begin invading Belarus
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I wouldn't. NATO has thousands of combat ready aircraft with almost unlimited stockpile of precision guided munitions and state of the art C4ISTAR literally decades ahead of anyone else. The second an enemy crosses onto NATO territory, it'll take less than 2 weeks to destroy every single military target in 300 km radius from the Suwalki gap.
Defensive posture in the east until Poland finishes clearing our Konigsberg. Then a drive to the Urals.
Belarus will grow larger. Inshallah.
Why doesn't Belarus invade Muscovy?