How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut? They are not looking too hot rn imo.

How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut? They are not looking too hot rn imo.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post more on Reddit and Twitter with the IC and dilate

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The situation remedied itself when it cost Russia 5 to 20 thousand troops to capture that little shithole town. Bakhmut was not a prepared defensive emplacement, it was a temporary forward position that just happened to hold out for a very fucking long time due to sheer skill and enemy incompetence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon, they STILL haven't taken bakhmut, they took soledar to the north, an even smaller town

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the best part. The strategic calculus allows for the loss of Bakhmut but it hasn't even happened yet because the boys keep up that goon shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think soledar is still contested due ukie artilery is shelling the fuck out of them there as not get to comftable there so even to hold that town will become too exspencive for them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wagner and the Russian military are having a lil' domestic spat over who gets the credit for capturing 3/5ths of a small town after nine months of non-stop human wave attacks. Wagner wants it because it'll mean a payday and political clout for Prigozhin, their leader. The Russian MoD want's it so they won't look like total failures to the Russian public, get retired out of a twelfth story window and to prevent Prigozhin from gaining any more clout because the last thing they want is the Russian public backing some nazi-fanboy they think will 'Make Russia Great Again'. And so the Russian artillery crews have stopped providing both artillery and counter battery fire for Wagner, allowing Ukraine's artillery to completely chew them up with little to no resistance.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >incur savage losses in a pyrrhic non-victory
            >exacerbate those losses with petulant infighting.
            Pic related still the defining quote of the war.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >to prevent Prigozhin from gaining any more clout because the last thing they want is the Russian public backing some nazi-fanboy they think will 'Make Russia Great Again'
            So that's who will succeed Putin. Ouch.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Can't wait to see him take over Russia and adopt a swastika flag for it. The fucking irony.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Funny thing is: both sides have a point, but they're Russians so they approach it with the finesse of a drunk elephant in a china shop.

            The Russian military is incompetent, but so is Wagner in that they're massively wasteful with resources as well.

            MoD did try to fuck Wagner over by swapping out Wagner units with elite Russian military forces to get the credit at the last minute, forcing Wagner to declare victory prematurely.

            BUT Prozavobitch hasn't endeared himself at all to the dudes who provide him with a little thing called ARTILLERY support. He keeps rubbing their incompetence in their faces while ignoring his own.

            Long story short: it's a lot of hubris compounded by incompetence all around, and precious little humility.

            https://i.imgur.com/MVMHbhk.jpg

            >incur savage losses in a pyrrhic non-victory
            >exacerbate those losses with petulant infighting.
            Pic related still the defining quote of the war.

            My advice to Ukraine is to do everything possible to intensify the infighting between Russian forces.

            Play on their mutual LOATHING of one another.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russian MoD isn't backing Wagner with artillery and counter-battery fire

            We have confirmation of this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm paraphrasing Ukraine and the US. I don't pretend to be a strategist, I'm a moron who can read.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > anon still think russia care about casualties

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Casualties matter, russias feelings do not

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Casualties matter
          please explain how
          clearly russia doesn't care about sending thousand to die for a few miles

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When you lose troops, you have less of them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              there's more miles than thousands of russians, i'll let you figure it out

              you still don't get it
              there is no scenario where they run out of troops

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there's more miles than thousands of russians, i'll let you figure it out

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Russia is as dumb as you NATO will be able to draw this out for 20 years and leave Russia buck broken for the next 300 years.

                Kek. Russia is suiciding itself over the Ukrainian step. I don't understand anyone who says sending Ukraine weapons is a bad deal, we are literally seeing Russia run itself into the ground and it isn't costing us lives. Top tier deal.

                because Ukraine is taking no casualties right ??
                I fucking hate russian but Ukraine isn't going to win an attrition war if they don't push back

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hello retard we watched 3 major Ukrainian offensives in the last year

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why nothing now then ?
                why give russia the time to build more tank guns and shells ?
                why give them time to reorganize and train troops ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If the casualty rates at Bakhmut are as lopsided as they appear, it's because you shouldn't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you honestly think Russian war production is greater than NATO's support. Russia has one tank plant and a very limited access to any advanced components

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically yes at the moment. Nato can't even coordinate sending more than half a dozen tanks of any particular model and russia has hundreds mothballed from the soviet days as well as apparently several hundred on the production lines

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nato can't even coordinate sending more than half a dozen tanks of any particular model

                Its not just that tank stockpiles are small, the spare parts stockpile is small too. The ukies got only 50 of Swedens 9040s but they got 100% of the spare part stockpile. And 25% of the entire Swedish artillery inventory. With super high costs for electricity and raw materials replacement will neither be quick nor cheap. This applies to just about every Euro country. The only NATO member with significant stockpiles and production capacity is America. Total yearly NATO 155 mm production amounts to less than 2 months of Ukie consumption.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hundreds of tanks mothballed from the soviet days
                which all together will make less of an impression than a single Bradley.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well unfortunately you fucking retards didn't have enough runic power to summon the great snows and everything remained a half frozen muddy quagmire.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >build more tank guns
                Lol
                >and shells
                lmao even. The arse has fallen out of russias artillery capabilities from losses and using their guns like they are cosplaying WW2 wearing out the barrels on pointless sloppy inefficient bombardments. Russias ability to produce more and train and equip more is complete shit, all they are doing by cramming mobiks into the front is laying the groundwork for a 1917 style humiliation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dude believes Russia's economy is le crippled when they're a country rich in strategic resources with an independent central bank
                Retard tier

                https://i.imgur.com/najnpVY.jpg

                /K/ope exists in Reddit informed reality. Bakhmut has been a meat grinder against the Ukrainian side. Ukrainian commanders want to retreat from Bakhmut to defensible ground but zelensky wants to hold it because of the PR hit of losing ground fought over for 6 months. Russia is applying the cauldron to it, just blowing up ukrainians with artillery from a distance.

                this is my impression as well. It's all HuMaN WaVeS in the narrative but the fighting is clearly just artillery shelling grinding up the poor bastards defending.

                Boys it's been a year for fuck sake, LEARN.
                Months go by of russia taking very small victories at great cost, effort and over a length of time.
                Then Ukraine carves off a multi hundred kilometer chunk of russian's held territory and we rinse and repeat.
                It's happened three or four fucking times already.

                >believe groundless casualty figures from a bunch of clowns who can't even admit there's over 100k ukranian dead

                >It's a battle of attrition.
                Is this the latest line from the Ministry of Truth? Because there are a lot of vatmoron "milbloggers" that have towed this line since at least Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkov. Even if true, what modern military wants to be put in a position of fighting an attritional war?

                clearly what's happening. Oy vey da milbloggers have an opinion can't say that guy need to make a stageplay fo da western aid monies

                >Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies.
                define apparently

                About 300 or more if memory serves just from production

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do all highschool dropouts and schizo believe central banks are some kind of magical and perfidious institution?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gay deflection to sidestep the fact Russia's economy is about as robust as ever, factories still producing war material etc

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'll take it as a yes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia's economy is about as robust as ever,
                >posts $50 billion deficit in the best year of energy sales ever
                >80% of all money comes from energy sales
                lol, lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah pretty much. It allows them to handwave any given problem with [the economy] as the work of [the federal reserve] or whatever.

                If you talk to people who work in these institutions, or actually no let me narrow that down, any company that performs or maintains any public service, you find out pretty quickly that these people have to deal with schizophrenics calling in and thinking they control the world.

                I'm not joking. I used to talk to a person who worked at an internet company, one that provides connectivity between ISPs. They did not have publicly facing customer support for individuals because they didn't supply services directly to people. Nonetheless they'd still get crazies calling them up on their 24/7 emergency support lines (the type you'd call if like half of the internet of a country went down) and would cry about the garden gnomes, new world order etc digging next to their house and implanting spy microphones and shit.

                This person engaged with one of them once (never do this) and figured out that the secret agents listening to them shit were actually just maintenance crews pulling up water pipes to replace them. Didn't even have anything to do with the internet.

                >gay deflection to sidestep the fact Russia's economy is about as robust as ever, factories still producing war material etc

                It's pretty difficult to make truthful statements about the health of an economy that has no trade with other economies, does not comply with financial standards and is well known for corruption. Even moreso when that same country is currently in an undeclared major regional war. Have you considered getting some sources for anything you say?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just nuke belarus
                kek lukas can't take a break

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they decided to nuke Belarus to send a message
                kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >were actually just maintenance crews pulling up water pipes to replace them.
                That's exactly what the lizard people WANT you to think.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >do all highschool dropouts and schizo believe central banks are some kind of magical and perfidious institution?
                glavset doom posting from a decade ago spamming vatmoron agitprot sites like zerohedge back when vatmoron oilgarchs were just using glavset for silver pump scams in concert with ZH and RT and shit like max keiser.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >do all highschool dropouts and schizo believe central banks are some kind of magical and perfidious institution?

                There is nothing magical about them, under non honest control they are perfidious instutitions that can be used to shift enormous amounts of wealth from the productive economy to financial insiders. See 1929 and the present remake called "The Great Reset". It was the introduction of the private "federal reserve" central bank in 1913 that sealed gnomish control of America.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes that's seemingly the new strategy of the Russian military, but why?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >strategy

                >Russian military
                pick one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you can't break through a defensive line using firepower (tanks, artillery barrages, infantry attacks) you can attempt to suffocate the defenders (attacking their supply lines with troops, artillery), or you can just level the defensive line.

                Leveling the defensive line is the most costly and time consuming, to the point it was considered during the cold war to be an inevitable part of Soviet/NATO strategy, but only to be used in conjunction with armor/mechanized thrusts. The idea was they'd drop a nuke set to airburst over a front line, kill everyone there by a combination of blast radiation and fallout, physically cave in trenches and pull bunkers out of the ground, then drive T-72s through the gap an hour later.

                To do it with conventional munitions only is actually fucking delusional. The Ukrainian military will run out of men (it won't, defending against sporadic tank charges while in a prepared trench network is considered a relatively low-skill task) before it runs out of defensive positions.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >To do it with conventional munitions only is actually fucking delusional.

                No it is not, its standard operating procedure in siege operations from the age of steam and onwards. See f.ex the siege of Sevastopol in the 1850s.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which can still be countered with precise strikes on Russian ammo supplies + command & control.

                The Vatniks can't coordinate their attacks or fight for long.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rich in resources but with rampant corruption and reliant on the west for high tech components. Thus why Russia has to beg Iran for shashsneed lawnmower drones. Russian war industry is a joke, they are barely able to requip a fraction of their mauled ""elite"" units let alone gear up their mobik cannon fodder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reliant on the west for high tech components.

                When I scrape away the Western tech company stickers on my electronics, I see labeling that says "ching chong ping pong". What does this mean muttsisters?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What does this mean muttsisters?

                it means china and the west are in a symbiotic economic relationship

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                China prizes stability, and Russia's instability & unpredictability must alarm the regime.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It means you can't get fire control systems for your tanks or chips for your missiles because Xi PingPong would rather tonguepunch Mao's embalmed fartbox than associate with the drain-circling shithole that is russia.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HuMaN WaVeS
                Hey redditor.
                Ukraine war report called they want you back.
                Good job giving yourself away, Russian filth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek, he did this yesterday as well. i called him out on the same thing. he does type like a redditor, and a woman

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HuMaN WaVeS
                Hey redditor.
                Ukraine war report called they want you back.
                Good job giving yourself away, Russian filth.

                AHAHAHAHA I've been arguing with a redditor all this time what the fuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck you i’m onPrepHole since 2001.

                I don’t even know what a redditor is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i've lurked PrepHole longer than you've been alive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doubt.
                I’m 84 yo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh strategic resources

                Stuff in the ground doesn't matter when your industrial sector is that of a third world banana republic.

                Russia has spent the last 30 years de-industrialising itself and is now wholly dependent of foreign imports for any kind of complex manufactured goods as well as even basic industrial machine tooling and the spare parts for it. And now they've been cut off from that supply.

                >muh 100k Ukrianian dead

                So give provne casualty ratios you're admitting the Russians already lost over a million men?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to r*ddit you fucking garden gnome

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They spent the end of last year inflicting terrible defeats on russia driving them out of izium and kherson. Russia throwing people away on this retarded fixation on bakhmut is a boon as it's all warm bodies and equipment that won't be available to unfuck russia's shit this campaigning season when their army begins to come apart at the seams under pressure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because Ukraine is taking no casualties

                who cares lol, russia still bleeds without american soldiers dying.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IIRC German military intel reports that Ukraine is loosing upwards of 1k men per day in Bakhmut while Russia is pouring in some prisoners every now and then, the army leans back in its chair while their artillery does the job.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russian artillery fire is inherently wasteful and imprecise.

                Go after the supplies and factories.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you dont need precise arty to shit on ukrainian trenches, they fill them with untrained mobiks and only quantity of cheap shells matter,

                if have more tanks and arty its basically onesided annihilation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So blow up the ammo supplies and eventually the factories.

                No more Russian artillery.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                good luck blowing up 1000 dispersed ammo dumps

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even ammo needs trucks to be transported, and Russia is badly short on them. Ramp up truck destruction.

                Rip out the cogs in the murder machine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i doubt you can be short on trucks while having at least 3 enormous plants making them in 3 shifts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yawn. Capture Russian truck. Rip it apart piece by piece. Look at every single label on every vital component. And then SANCTION every single manufacturer who helped build it.

                Then destroy the factories themselves for good measure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just checked, looks like all factories are working at full capacity, something weird is going on, looks like they can still make them even without vital parts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rasputin put in the cheat mode.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just checked, looks like all factories are working at full capacity, something weird is going on, looks like they can still make them even without vital parts
                yeah. vatmorons spam retarded bullshit like a hose you proved it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just checked, looks like all factories are working at full capacity

                Sure you did. May we see proof ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop projecting Ivan.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Upwards of 1k casualties per day in one single area of the front according to german military intelligence, you call that wasteful? Ukraine is loosing a brigade and a half every week in Bakhmut.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >german military intelligence

                they're about as trustworthy as russian intel.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, probably biased in favor of Ukraine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >russia-loving germany
                >in favor of ukraine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NATO puppet, dog of America, slave of ZOG Germany

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                uk intel is the most trustworthy, they still holding soledar probably and ukrainian heroes have 0 loses

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russian MoD's losses are going to go up.

                Wagner's supply of convicts are drying up. Apparently word of "job conditions" has filtered back to Russian prisons, lol. The summary executions aren't helping.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yea and russia has ran out of missiles too
                it's over

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yawn. Russia can run out of missiles many times but as long as its ability to make new ones remains, it's not out for good. You can't get rid of a fire ant nest if the queen still survives.

                Destroy all Russian factories already. THEN Russia is truly out of missiles.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Find me one article, from anybody, that states Russia has RUN OUT of missiles. Not 'running out of missiles' or 'Will run out of missiles [if current usage rates are maintained]' but 'Run out of and will not produce any more ever'. Because none have said that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                guess saying 'cope' is easier than 'yeah you're right no articles said that, I completely made something up in my head to feel better'.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't make that claim at all, stop getting cajoled by some demented vatnik you piece of shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Source: RT dot com

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                can you give me a link on that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Russia is as dumb as you NATO will be able to draw this out for 20 years and leave Russia buck broken for the next 300 years.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek. Russia is suiciding itself over the Ukrainian step. I don't understand anyone who says sending Ukraine weapons is a bad deal, we are literally seeing Russia run itself into the ground and it isn't costing us lives. Top tier deal.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon please think about the poor ukrop piggies that dying each day!!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you don't understand, something something gay morons, also garden gnomes. therefore, Russia is good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >something something gay morons, also garden gnomes. therefore, Russia is good.
                gobohom zog cuck chud garden gnome rouble dilate etc meanwhile...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only a thousand pows? With all the talk of forced conscription and all the reports about russian troops surrendering en masse this number should be a lot higher, no? Or are those not counted as pows?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine stopped reporting any changes in that number back in May, I think. No idea why. Maybe they reserve the right to execute the PoWs without anyone knowing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just think it's just not reported. Perhaps they realised Russia was using it as an accurate metric to change tactics, and instead decided to stagger troop transfers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When we look at those + values, it seems that right now russia is just burning MEN, not so much equipment.

                Also, how the fuck have they already lost practically ALL their tanks? 3000+ tanks gone? Jesus that takes decades to replace.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When we look at those + values, it seems that right now russia is just burning MEN, not so much equipment.

                Probably because they don't have much more equipment to burn through. Can't deploy that many tanks to get blown up when you're running low on tanks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it seems that right now russia is just burning MEN, not so much equipment.
                Correct, and despite vatnik seething, materiel is more important than men because it acts as a force multiplier (turns out a few fully mechanized brigades can take on an entire mobik infantry corps, who knew?).

                So despite there being 3 x as many Russians as Ukrainians, the technological overweight on the Ukrainian side (plus the fact that you always have the advantage on the home turf) makes Ukraine many times more effective as Russia, nullifying it.

                So it's just a matter of who gives up first: the slaves that were whipped in the equivalent of chain gangs to go die in mass human wave assaults, or the people who are fighting for their very survival as a nation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure there is.
                same way the Russian revolution happened, which they have already shown to be wary of.
                the troops on the field become the main soldiers of a revolt against their uncaring and tyrannical masters.
                Just like they did to the tsars.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >same way the Russian revolution happened,
                that happen because it was pushed by the German, russian are slaves dogs who can't think for themselves
                there is currently less opposition movement in russia than a year ago, they will all go to the slaughterhouse like the good little slvas they are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >german
                suuuuuure lmao
                totally wasnt started by certain people and certain beliefs that got radicalized by violent suppression

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you want to imply someting? Are these 143.3 million Russians fit for military service?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are no more fit for that than 43 million Ukrainians.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah anon, the russian manpower pool is infinite. That's why they already increased the age range for conscription and mobilization. Putins already inching towards a volkssturm tier last ditch army where grandpas and kids fight with moldy mosins

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here are some of my subjective thoughts. I served in the Russian army. I have a specialty which I am good at. And I'm still young. When the mobilization began, I was ready. But I was not called. I will say even more, none of my acquaintances was called during the mobilization in my district. Although, among my friends there are scouts with combat experience in Syria, artillerymen, signalmen, etc. In the neighboring district, only one person from the Airborne Forces was called up from friends. It felt as if the military registration and enlistment offices specifically called in only old people and alcoholics from the streets.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, of course. You'll be needed to protect Shoigu's Khaganate from the attacks of Wagner's kingdom.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I prefer not to think about such lofty matters. I'll just do what I'm told, because that's the way it's supposed to be. I'm sure every man in this thread is loyal enough to his country not to ask questions when ordered to act. Therefore, let's have respect for each other, as a patriot for a patriot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like a complete retard. Russians really need to be culled.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s the problem with ignorant idiots like you, they lack the necessary tools to understand, so they are convinced everyone else is stupid and speaking nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't have a brain and will fight for whoever
                >I'm smart 🙂
                lol, lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It mostly took men from the rural regions who are minorities the Moscovites don’t care about and who are dependent on the state/Moscow based corps for daily life. It’s cruel but it’s designed to keep them from getting 1917’d by keeping the cities placated.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If true, that is extremely damning.
                They are rounding up people in the middle of the night in Petrograd, there are regions in the Far East left without doctores due to mogilization, there's people with chronic disease and over 50 getting called up, but here lies gay anon, the Syrian veteran, and he is not called.
                Furthermore, here lies anon, and he does not volunteer despite being "ready", despite the generous premiums promissed and despite the knowledge that him going might save the lives of his coutnrymen. He'd rather watch chmobiks die by the thousands than move his ass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is fact is. And we're currently looking at it. At the current rate, the Ukrainians will exterminate the entire military-age male population of Russia before running out of steam or ground.

                You're gonna get mobilised, vatmoron, and you're gonna die in some shithole in Donbas just like every other Russian your age.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sadly for you I'm not russian

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure you aren't, Vanya. Give the commissar my regards when he comes to draft you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >144m
                Wow, so like germany+poland+ i don't know, czechia?
                Nato always outnumbered vatniks by magnitude

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there's more miles than thousands of russians, i'll let you figure it out

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >be russia
            >invade with insufficient manpower last February
            >lose a gorillion vehicles and the core of your professional army as a result
            >raise penal legions and mobik rifle (singular) battalions
            >do nothing to offset their dogshit morale and training
            >waste their lives in pointless assaults on a pair of insignificant towns for clout
            >get btfo later when your miserable army collapses

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia also doesn't need to care about it's economy or it's people fleeing the country.
        They won't win a war that way though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking russia cares about casualties

        Like the US army sending golems to die in the middle east for inexistant WMD, to further profit the neocons? Hahaha.

        When you join the army, you have to understand you're just a consumable.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the US lost less troops in the whole 8 year of the iraq war that the russian to take soledar

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wasn't even talking numbers, rabbi.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              fuck off, you dumb fucking moron, memes and 4chan aren't real life, western powers go to absurd lengths to prevent casualties, anytime something happens that results in casualties, there's a massive amount of investigation and leaders get punished for it, you have examples of that happening in Afghanistan.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that's why you will lose.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >inexistant WMD
          Holy ESL. Also there were WMD's in Iraq. You do realise this? Like actually documented and disposed off WMD's and their disposal was actually a major cover up, not because of the disposal but because the USA screwed over those who disposed of them, right?

          How retarded are you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking russia cares about casualties

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The situation remedied itself when it cost Russia 5 to 20 thousand troops to capture that little shithole town.

      Russians make a probing attack - ukies then claim that they machinegunned an entire battallion of wagnerites. Russians continue to make probing attacks until they find out that the ukies have abandoned their positions or are so few left alive that they can be overrun. This is the basic russian grind strategy, enabled by their massive artillery supremacy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Artillery is worthless without SHELLS. Continue to target Russian ammo supplies, and all that artillery is a bunch of oversized paperweights.

        Also find out where the Russians are getting new barrels for their artillery pieces, and sabotage those factories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Bakhmut getting encircled right now?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's what people were saying in that other thread.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >to capture that little shithole town
      Nice meme, pidor. They still haven't captured shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The situation remedied itself when it cost Russia 5 to 20 thousand troops to capture that little shithole town.
      oh NO!
      A quadruple felon cannibal was killed! the horror!
      >meanwhile, the ukraine has killed off the entirety of its ~20yo population, just to LOSE to Russian multiple-felons
      I mean, the ukraine's fate is to be de-populated, but maybe they should slow down.. .maybe leave some men left over for after the war? no?
      no survivors?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A quadruple felon cannibal was killed! the horror!
        It matters when that's the only kind of shithead fighting for you, idiot. Literally your frontline is composed of those.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spamming

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I swear this happens every time. Russia regroups and makes minor gains, Russia shills get excited, Russia collapses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there aren't any glaring undermanned weaknesses along the frontline this time though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you sure about that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the only conclusion of that drawing is that Russia is still there, 80 years after it was supposed to collapse and all predictions were wrong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Muscovite construct of "Russia" has indeed collapsed, several times.

          For a "country" with such pride in its size, you would think the fact that the Soviet Union was inferior to Imperial Russia, and in turn the Russian Federation strictly inferior to the Soviet Union, would be a trend they would have detected by now.
          But such ignorance is essential to being "Russian", and that's always been observed to be the case. Take your pick. Marquis de Custin, Nikolai Gogol, etc. We've discussed both (and more) on PrepHole before, you know.

          Moreover, the last two major collapses were allowed to play out largely on "Russia's" own terms. Nobody was particularly interested in their self-mutation after 1917, and their 1991 collapse was met with a rush of western support if anything. See HW Bush's "Chicken Kiev speech" if you're in disbelief.

          This next collapse though will indeed be fundamentally different. "Russia" will not be left to their own devices this time around. They will not be permitted to "fix" themselves. There will be no charity. There will be no favor.

          They will be utilized.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is a weird but fascinating essay. Where is it from?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This next collapse though will indeed be fundamentally different.
            No one will feed them or help them. I was talking to a man who remembers sending them his old toys as a child in 1991 and how they were now back targeting him with nukes again yesterday. Russians are scum

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even the absolute doomer that wrote this couldn't imagine things being THIS bad. And it's a guy who call for the end of the concept of "Russia".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That is a slightly unhinged and delirious yet fascinating text.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we are far from thinking that people in charge of russia are crazy
            Oh boy
            Well, if theres one good thing to come out of this shitshow already, it is flash-rebuilding of Ukies as a nation and complete orientation to the western ideals.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >complete orientation to the western ideals.
              They are already there. Ukrainians are based.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just want Russia to break up so so some Slavic snow moron will let nukes start flying. So ready for this moron, garden gnome infested world to be ash.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This comic explains why indoor plumbing and washing machines are black magic to puccians
          I’ve lived in the boonies of deepest Asia and the average rural village is wealthier than anything I’ve seen out of snow Nigeria.
          Russia is third world and there is nothing you can do or will ever do to change it.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe not fight at a right angle

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I recommend Zelensky continue doubling down, increasing the amount of pork for Putin's Chef to braise

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut?
    Hard to say. Russia seems desperate for a victory and they don't seem to care about losses, so grinding down a few more waves while supply routes are still intact and then retreating to the actual prepared defense line seems reasonable.
    Or maybe just holding the town for another 6 months while mounting counter offensives elsewhere, who the fuck knows in this war.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing to remedy bahkmut proved a success on week 1 by buying time for kiev.
    Why russians still haven't managed to capture it in 49 weeks is beyond anyone but it's a huge success as it keeps bleeding the russians dry.
    The town itself is completely meaningless.

    someone post that image of vatnik propagandists claiming every 3 days the town is captured.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The town itself is completely meaningless.

      Its a large staging post for a push into Slovyansk. Which itself is a very important town

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Its a large staging post for a push into Slovyansk. Which itself is a very important town

        This was only true whilst Russia still held Lyman. Now Bakhmut is completely useless.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, I would leave Bakhmut and let russians celebrate a pyrrhic victory.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /K/ope exists in Reddit informed reality. Bakhmut has been a meat grinder against the Ukrainian side. Ukrainian commanders want to retreat from Bakhmut to defensible ground but zelensky wants to hold it because of the PR hit of losing ground fought over for 6 months. Russia is applying the cauldron to it, just blowing up ukrainians with artillery from a distance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PrepHole
      You don't belong here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It must be grim if the Ukrainian garden gnomes in the state department are telling the Ukrainian garden gnomes in Kiev to spare a few goyim for the defense of Kiev.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a transperson of color, btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        esl reading comprehension is grim

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy projection

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It must be grim if the Ukrainian garden gnomes in the state department are telling the Ukrainian garden gnomes in Kiev to spare a few goyim for the defense of Kiev.

      kek almost convinced me you are actually a retarded incest Z. Nice b8. You nailed the stupid but nasty with a dash of clinical retard perfectly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my proof Zelensky wants to hold itat all costs is a tweet from today
      I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out and if they do it's a pyrrhic victory for Russia.
      >inb4 territory matters more than losses
      Then why isn't Russia losing when they have lost 30% of the land they held?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        60%*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek you made the shills seethe lmao, man the truth hurts them so bad, I almost feel sorry for the poor souls.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you samefag a bit less blatantly? It's kinda pathetic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          seethe shill

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    collapse the mines, flood them while i'm at it, destroy anything russia could use then draw them out across open territory and drone/artillery spam their meatwaves to death
    there's no strategic importance left to bakhmut which is shelled to death and unusable, no point in grinding over it

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Territory doesn't matter in this conflict. It's a battle of attrition. I have no idea why both sides are so hellbent on insignificant capturing villages or towns. It's a huge waste of resources. Just defend the most advantageous positions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just sit in trenches and die bro you don't need to take Kiev or remove invaders from your territory
      Retard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that what Ukraine is doing?

      There's a lot of copeposting on telegram that they must be taking similar casualties but I haven't seen any evidence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a battle of attrition.
      Is this the latest line from the Ministry of Truth? Because there are a lot of vatmoron "milbloggers" that have towed this line since at least Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkov. Even if true, what modern military wants to be put in a position of fighting an attritional war?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People only ever talk about waging battles of attrition retroactively to justify their lack of progress and abhorrent losses. Falkenhayn did it after Verdun, Zhukov did that after Rzhev etc.
        Attritional warfare is a cope because no sane commander would ever commit to such a battle on purpose

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Another massive problem with the 'just don't care about the casualties bro' retard strategy is that giving the enemy a turkey shoot to rotate their new troops through lets them build up an elite army of battle hardened veterans fast, and your troops don't get any combat experience because they're dead.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Attritional warfare is a cope because no sane commander would ever commit to such a battle on purpose

          Attritional warfare is sane when losses are 8-10:1 to your advantage. In world war 1 it was about 1:1.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually took a look at one of the western maps today and the Idea that Ukraine is going on the offensive while the bulk of their army is busy sheltering assault and bombardment around bakhmut seems totally crazy. The numbers of supposedly drafted Russians on the way keeps getting bigger and Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies. This is loony tunes, there is no Ukranian counter offensive possible except in the area they're currently soaking off assaults from. If the best PrepHoleope is that russia will run out of shells and the west might eventually send tanks Rus is clearly just going to be making incremental gains. The >PMC meme is absolutely real

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies.
      define apparently

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I feel bad that no one took your bait so here is a (you)

      j/k I don't give (you)s to fags lamo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The numbers of supposedly drafted Russians on the way keeps getting bigger
      And their mass graves keep getting deeper
      >and Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies
      lol. Lmao even.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >numbers don't matter
        >russian production isn't real!
        oh so it's just real chud hours. Go get shelled at the front with the other PBI gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Again almost retarded enough to be a real vatmoron but not quite ragey and murder thirsty enough. You should be screaming about raping Ukrainian children and nuking Washington by now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gay deflection, gaslighting, you're a russian! etc
            Hope you get aids being coerced into gay sex with your chud pals back at the afb barracks, gay

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >gaslighting
              back to discord chud

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he types whilst blinking rivulets of chechen cum out of his eyes
              Reminder that the fagner assault hobos rotting outside bakmut are riddled with hep and aids because russia is so based and trad.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh no no no zisters, these poor black men need our support!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >numbers don't matter
          Russia doesn't have numbers. It has fagner prison rape battalions and mobiks wearing airsoft gear who are just grist for the mill
          >m-m-muh production capabilities!!
          Burden of proof lies with you moron. Why does a nation with the ability to make all the tanks it needs send T-62s into combat? Why are we seeing far fewer russian armor losses after the slaughter of last year? You won't answer because you are brown.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why are we seeing far fewer russian armor losses after the slaughter of last year?
            They'll just say that's proof Ukraine is running out of ammo.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You keep making wild shit up and not citing any sources. Stop foaming at the mouth, subhuman.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bulk of their army
      There's like 30k tops there. Out of a million strong army.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the map you're responding to carnie

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Learn to read maps ffs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bro here's the bulk of your reserves and guess what they're fucking doing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >bulk
              You're looking at 30k soldiers max. LEARN TO READ MAPS!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                more flags means more dudes
                simple as

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lel. So you're really just telling me the ukies are heavily attrited then. Because this is without doubt the bulk of their army
                >well over 30 brigades in the region, several regiments...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >well over 30 brigades
                Now you're just pretending to be retarded or what?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because this is without doubt the bulk of their army
                Oh, can you prove that?
                >sure let me just post this incel telegram or incel youtuber speculation of the topic ;*~~))
                I will rape you retarded, gay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't listen to these NAFO shills. The Ukrainians are THIS close to shattering. The Russians only need to launch a few more direct, unsupported assaults with untrained infantry and the whole rotten structure will collapse.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hahaha look your reserves are behind the front line
              You don't seem to understand that the point is to let the Russians waste themselves then throw a mechanized offensive through the weakest point.

              By the way you legitimately are looking at, let's see....

              Oh ok, one armor brigade, one mechanized brigade, and some light infantry brigades? Plus enough men to rotate out at the front as required?

              The "tied up reserves" you're bitching about consist of like 10k soldiers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh so the shill stuck his head out of the copium to actually read the post for once.
                >dey wasting all those troops, trust me!
                Actually I just read to the part where you claim we're talking about "one armor brigade, one mech brigade, a few (lol) inf brigades" and just fucking laughed. Can you read a map, gay?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Can you read a map, gay?
                I can actually, can you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                clearly not senpai. Better just rope yourself off the balcony and save me the time. Cya

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >xaxaxaxa have a nice day
                Arguing with strangers on the internet won't stop the mechanized offensive, Ivan. Maybe you shouldn't have wasted so many BMPs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you pretending to be retarded?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/AFx3jaI.jpg

                How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut? They are not looking too hot rn imo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the difference is that Russians are smarter

                that's the type of answer I expect only rich and powerful Americans would make

                the poor Mutts are so retarded they would unironically actually go and die for Pissrael

                many such cases

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the difference is that Russians are smarter

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >most gifted brownoid tactician

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Look how fucking CLOSE the Ukrainians are to Lysychansk and Kreminna.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Every time their claimed capture of a city turns out to be bullshit, the Russians add another Ukrainian brigade to the map. They've been at it for a while.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wow, Russia should probably attack somewhere else then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3% is a big deal

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine's army is like 200k front line troops and 700k support

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >source: incelslavaZ and chug
          good one ser

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://twitter.com/TDF_UA/status/1616176531096616979
            Source: the Ukrainian territorial defence account. PrepHoleids absolutely seething

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He doesnt know what the fuck the Ukrainian territorial defence force is
              get the fuck out of here tourist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies.

      Hearty kek and a slap on the knee.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is also apparently producing quantities of tanks that dwarf western supplies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You retarded moron, russoids are going to smash their head against a wall in march trying to capture Kharkov once more, that's when a southern counter-offensive will take place. They'll take Melitopol, push to the sea and destroy the copebridge leaving Crimea logistically fucked. That's how the war will end, mark my fucking words.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is loony tunes, there is no Ukranian counter offensive possible except in the area they're currently soaking off assaults from.
      you know, if you can crush enemies strong points frontally then the rest will be pretty easy, send the Ukrainians more wünderwaffen and make it so

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boys it's been a year for fuck sake, LEARN.
    Months go by of russia taking very small victories at great cost, effort and over a length of time.
    Then Ukraine carves off a multi hundred kilometer chunk of russian's held territory and we rinse and repeat.
    It's happened three or four fucking times already.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Boys it's been a year for fuck sake, LEARN.
      >Months go by of russia taking very small victories at great cost, effort and over a length of time.
      >Then Ukraine carves off a multi hundred kilometer chunk of russian's held territory and we rinse and repeat.
      >It's happened three or four fucking times already.
      Dammit Hansel stop telling the Russians the secret to inevitable Ukrainian victory

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dammit Hansel

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how will the ukrainians be able to deal with russias lightning advance of 15 meters per day!?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Square meters, obviously. The front doesn't advance fifteen meters per day. That'd be ridiculous.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my war turned capeshit movie's script can't allow this to happen

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People said the town was strategically irrelevant months ago

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be more specific. It lost it strategic relevance after Summer counter offensive.

        It have acces to roads that would let Ukies to supply their forces in the south for fightingin Luhansk and Donesk. But with Kharkiv and other cities being liberated, Ukraine have more alternatives to use and easily provide for thier soldiers in that front. That's why Russians still can't win at Bakhumt.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they already memory holed that since it doesnt fit their narrative

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia can't meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But the city hasn't been taken.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would plant massive amounts of explosives under the city. Then let the Russians take it, wait for some high ranking official to visit it for muh propaganda pics and blow it up. WW I style.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are there suitable explosives that can't be set off by other explosions? If not trying that in a city being shelled wouldn't work.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slavshit falseflag moment. kys vatnig.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Today I will remind them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      saved for the next time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We should keep adding new posts, for shit and giggles.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    continue to kersplat russian conscripts who moved into presighted artillery range until they run out of steam then maybe send a few elite units to reclaim any positions we had to withdraw from

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut?
    considering russoids haven't even taken Soledar I'd say they have it under control

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why not retreat to a more favourable position?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is current position not favorable?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it one of those threads where vatniks are pretending that Russia is somehow bending the rules of nature by having an infinite amount of soldiers/weapons or, to be more precise, rather conjuring matter out of nothing?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      technology is still enough. I was an MRAP driver. In my team, there were up to three MPAPs per driver. The problem was the small number of professional drivers. There was also a problem with tanks. in my part there were only modifications 72, in poor condition. I don't know about other types of technology. And please note that the situation may be different if we are talking about other brigades.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They couldn't even reach their previous conscription drive of 300K, the idea that they can gather anywhere near a million is a rabid krokodil fantasy. Even Serbs are telling Wagner to stop recruiting people there and fuck off.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >USA still hasn't captured Bin Laden

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leave. The point was to bait the Russians, not themselves.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, 15000 piggies died for a bait.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah they over committed. They gloated over the Russian fuck up then made the exact same error in the exact same place. Bizarre.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You said bizarre? How bizarre!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh over-commited

          And yet they keep slaughtering Russians in massively lopsided numbers there. Doesn't sound like an overcommittment to me, sounds like a good deal.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They don’t though

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia is loosing 1000 kia and massive numbers wounded, prisoners and deserted every day along with unsustainable le equipment losses including nearly all of Russias tanks......

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Says who? UA MOD?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yup and they have been right every time. Are you new here or just stupid?

                >only 120k killed
                sad, we will never reach WW2 kino like this

                Throw in the wounded, deserted, the fratricides, accidents, friendly fire the surrendered and prisoners and its hundreds of thousands of Russians dead or missing a limb. However the average Z supporter does not give a flying fuck about maimed Russians in fact they probably masturbate to that thought just as they do mass graves, child rape and murder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only value Russians have is in paid breeding stock. They produce babies for Ukraine and get paid for it. Russians only value money anyway.

                Ukraine needs numbers, Russia's doomed as a nation anyway. It's a fair deal. Ukraine's population goes up and Russian women survive.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >admits his numbers are straight from UA MOD
                >believes them uncritically

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I do believe them for lots of good reasons. Just because Russia is a nation of liars does not mean that other nations are. the Ukrainian figure for Russian losses have predicted the arrival of obsolete Russian hardware on the battlefield like obsolete tanks and artillery tractors and I think they are completely correct.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you bragging about how gullible you are? Fuck off retard, you sound like an actual chud

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing 'gullible' in taking the Ukrainian figures at face value as they have established their credibility as I say in predicting events on the ground such as the deployment of obsolete and defective Russian machines. If you want to see gullible, think of the people who unironically believe the shit that is piped out of moscow an unending 'firehose of lies'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Always with trannies on the mind, these ones.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's worse than you know.

                Russia has lost a fuckton of something called TRUCKS. Without transport, Russian troops are confined to walking on fucking foot. You know how exhausted that is?

                The Russians can't do jack and shit as an infantry force confined to walking on foot. Ukraine needs to keep destroying all Russian transport vehicles, to keep the hordes of Vatniks stuck on foot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I appreciate that. They have lost at least 5000 vehicles, lorries cars and other transports maybe as much as 10K. Even the Russians probably have no idea.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're definitely a priority target.

                Without transport, Russians move slower than fucking HELL. You can't do offensives with any kind of speed if you're on fucking foot.

                It gets worse if you keep targeting Russian fuel supplies. Then whatever vehicles they DO have can't move much, lol.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do notice the vanik trying to validate his own cocktard fantasy numbers out of desperation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe 150000 khokhols died for a bait *~~. Imagine losing 1500000 active troops for le bait.
        How can the banderites justify losses of 15000000 troops?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bury explosives everywhere
    >tactically retreat from the position during the night
    >wait for Russians to take the city
    >blow them all to hell

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't work in the civil war, didn't work in ww1

      why would it work there ?,

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is that those cases were used for assaulting a position, rather than retreating from one. Also tbf the main issue with the civil war one was for some fucking reason they all decided to dive into the hole afterwards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's wasteful and a future danger after the war. Just let them roll in and rocket the living shit out of them.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine won't be doing any more offensives. The fronts have frozen, this is what the war will look like in 10 years. Pathetic performance by Russia so far but Ukraine is never seeing that territory ever again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The fronts have frozen
      Idiot, it’s 36F in Bakhmut. It’s not frozen.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's some hopium: Bakhmut and Soledar are just a convenient distraction from wherever Ukraine is actually making progress (like near Kreminna).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopium

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Legitimate answer, I’d give Ukraine every F15/F16/F18 coming due for mothballing, every missile coming due for expiration, 200-300 bradley M2A2 ODSs, 100-200 M1A2’s already in Europe, ATACMS, and empty out the stores of old M16A2s and A4s to equip the volunteers who don’t have gear. Any PVS-14 tubes coming due for DRMO, slap them in a functional housing and send them. Basically dump all our old shit on them and watch them go apeshit.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it depends on their objectives there:

    if they for some reason ned to hold it and choose to sacrifice azov or some other units again
    (as in Mariupol - but then situation was different - it tied some good Russian units there)
    then send them in and get ready for encirclement and siege.

    if they want to maximize Russian losses then simply withdraw before encirclement and send those units to next defensive line

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How would you remedy Russia's situation in Ukraine? They are not looking too hot rn imo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Send another wave at Bakhmut. Hohols will never expect it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amphibious Assault on Odessa. It's so retarded that no one would expect it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would open a new transnistrian front in the west and attempt to cut off their supply lines. Meanwhile, Steiners VDV platoon brigade will keep millions of ukies held up in the north. Rafts will be built for the T72 to allow them to sail directly up the Dnieper and catch Kiev off guard. All this takes place in less than two weeks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still think nuking Kiev would not result in direct retaliation from NATO, so I would do that.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Send volunteers pilots from new york(its totally city in region) in f35.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is doing fine. Russia had another thousand men killed in the last 24 hours, another 15 armoured combat vehicles a tank and 6 more artillery pieces. The Russian military is dying, it has threatened Europe and the world for 50 years under the banner of communism and state atheism and monsters like stalin and putin and now Russia is dying and its military is being erased. rejoice. Ukraine is not just doing fine...they are exterminating one of the greatest evils and threats to the future of mankind the world has ever known..Russia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only 120k killed
        sad, we will never reach WW2 kino like this

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read this and realise that Russia has done nothing but try and spread left and right extremism, riots, murder, protests, spree killing in these countries and tthreaten them with nukes.

    European Community leaders agreed today to give an extra $340 million in emergency food aid to the Russian cities of Moscow and St. Petersburg, a community spokesman said.

    The leaders, taking part in a two-day summit meeting here, are worried that severe food shortages could lead to political unrest in the disintegrating Soviet Union.

    At Germany's suggestion, they agreed in principle to provide the money on top of sizable aid packages already under negotiation with Moscow.

    "It will be given as a present," the European Commission spokesman told journalists, adding that community finance ministers would meet next week to work out the details.

    "We don't know yet where the money will come from," he said.

    The aid will be in addition to a food credit guarantee worth $1.6 billion and a technical assistance package of $520 million still under negotiation with Moscow and individual republics.

    Officials in London said representatives of the Group of Seven industrialized nations would meet this week to discuss coordinating emergency food and medical aid to the Soviet Union. The group comprises Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/11/world/soviet-disarray-europe-to-give-extra-food-aid-to-3-russian-cities.html
      NEVER AGAIN LET THEM DIE

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just let them find another gorbachev

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Just let them find another gorbachev
          Just 20 years after the EU send endless shipment of food to hold off Russians from staving as well as vast charitable donations of clothes, toys and medicines Russia has spent a decade trying to incite riots murder and instability in the EU including regularly threatening use of nuclear weapons. Russia does not deserve to be recognised as a nation or nationality any further. It is just a worthless criminal rabble to be held in contempt.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russians are stupid. They act like they have limitless numbers.....which is why they're reduced to using fucking drug addicts and convicted criminals.

            They do NOT have the demographics for war. Regardless of your stance on COVID-19 (which Russia has classified as a state secret on death counts, lol), AIDS and booze is massacring the Russian population. Probably drug overdoses too.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just can't understand a nation of 'people' who were saved from starvation by food given freely by the EU and grown by EU farmers who's children went through their toys to find Christmas presents for Russian children in 1991 and those same children now target their farms with nuclear weapons and try and destoy the EU by agitating for riots and murder and extremism in their nations. It is completely disgusting. It has to be the most evil nation in history after this and stalin and putin and lenin. A completely rotten worthless people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget Russian ties with the cartels in Mexico. They're essentially involved in every human garbage operation on the planet.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russian women are destined to redeem themselves post-war by becoming Ukraine's breeding stock, lol.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MOSCOW — The Soviet Union, warning that it faces potentially severe food shortages as another bitter winter approaches, Thursday doubled the amount it is asking for emergency food aid from the West. Moscow’s $14.7-billion request, almost six times what the European Community initially had estimated the Soviets would need, clearly caught Western leaders off guard.
    The latest aid request renewed potentially troubling questions about precisely who will assist the Soviets and how that will be done. Doubts also persist about the accuracy of official projections of the extent of possible Soviet food shortages.

    Yuri Luzhkov, deputy chairman of the Soviet Economic Management Committee, told EC officials in Brussels that billions of dollars in aid are needed to offset what could be a drop of as much as 30% in Soviet food production this year.

    He proposed that the 12-nation EC provide $7 billion, with the rest to come from the United States, Canada, Japan and individual European countries.

    But a senior U.S. official said the figure seems to be “a high number.” An EC official told the Associated Press that the request needs “a lot more clarification.”

    The Soviet government first made a request for $7.25 billion in EC food aid last week in a letter to EC Commission President Jacques Delors, who had earlier estimated that Moscow needed only about $2.4 billion in such assistance.
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-09-20-mn-2410-story.html
    NEVER AGAIN

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm out of the loop, what happened to that Ghost of Kyiv fellow? Is he still alive? How many did he take down?
    Also what happened to the blyatars or whatever they are called?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not sure why they're so obsessed with keeping this town, with all the hardware they received i would've thought they'd be preparing for an offensive somewhere else
    russians have poor logistics, they could pull back a few kms, let russian troops dilute and then push back while the russians struggle to keep the troops supplied
    i guess the situation isnt so bad for ukraine just yet and are contempt with grinding the russians down over there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're wearing the Russians down. The Ukrainians don't fucking suck at attrition warfare, achieving some truly impressive kill ratios relative to their own losses.

      The more shit Russia squanders here, the less the Russians have for USEFUL places.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Attacking at and around buildings and internal conicals against fields increases casualty ratios significantly, basically
      All that surrounding enemy is vulnerable from more than one side

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your guess is as good as mine. Could be that russian mobilization plugged the frontline enough so that they have no place to attack. Maybe they're waiting for the russians to show their hand with that looming offensive, or maybe they're wearing them out and waiting for the right moment to strike. Only time will tell

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will never forgive the Russian people for their government sponsoring terrorists in my nation. They can go to Hell. They don't seem to have any idea why the world hates them

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a big question for PrepHole.

    Say Russia does another mobilization.

    How the fuck are they going to transport them, lol? They don't have any trucks. They banned the use of civilian vehicles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Say Russia does another mobilization.
      >How the fuck are they going to transport them, lol? T
      Trains that was the main method in ww1 and the main method the Russians are using now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trains which are vulnerable to sabotage. No locomotive, no train.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sure about that? It's on the verge of collapse apparently.

        https://www.railway.supply/en/russian-railway-is-on-the-verge-of-collapse/

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >By the end of August, about 10,000 freight cars were taken out of service due to the lack of bearings and the impossibility of repair. In total, more than 200,000 wagons are at risk, estimates the National Transport Company (NTC), one of the largest operators of innovative wagons.

          >The main manufacturers of cassette bearings for them were the Swedish SKF, as well as Timken and Amsted Rail from the USA. All three companies left Russia after the start of the war. Components were brought from abroad, and only the final assembly was carried out at Russian enterprises. Now there is nothing to assemble them from and nothing to replace imports with. They need sealants and lubricants, which are produced neither in Russia nor the CIS.

          >Until the end of the year, the shortage of bearings will be about 100,000 units, and this is provided that Russian manufacturers supply 95,000 units. But whether import substitution is possible in principle remains unclear. And while the management of Russian Railways is looking for new suppliers, several thousand cars, the scheduled repair of which is impossible due to the lack of cassette bearings, are already being dismantled for spare parts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >all your war logistics depend on trains
            >buy all the stuff you need to build and maintain them from your sworn enemy
            >make you economy and logistics chain depend on your enemy
            what the fuck was putin thinking

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine will be repopulated post-war.

    Save The Ukrainians.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lots of artillery
    light motorised infantry with a lot of ATGM

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also the targeting of Russian Logistics & Command + Control, as well as Transport.

      Russian barbarians can't fight for long without supplies or direction. They're just a rabble.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wagner has taken the Northern Highway road near Podgorodnoe, the only highway now remains in and out of Bakhmut is from the West.

    Bakhmut is now practically speaking under "Operational Encirclement"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is the 7th time we have operationally encircled Bakhmut.
      >We are still exceedingly inefficient at it.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they still haven't shoot down the ghost of Kyiv

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    @56849733
    >yawn
    >redd*t spacing
    NEVER reply to me again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yawn.

      No. I'm tired of your denial and idiocy. You cannot fight a war if your enemy disables your factories, wipes out your transportation, destroys your supplies, cripples your command & control, and sanctions every single one of your military companies to hell and back.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you remedy Ukraine's situation at Bakhmut?
    But they are destroying the russian military perfectly. Why change anything?

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder.
    Stop engaging.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man my webm didn't work. Basically she didn't answer.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as best I can tell the commanders on the ground have the situation in hand. Bakhmut isn't strategically important further that the Russians want to use it as a moral boost.

    if bakhmut falls:
    >opens a hole in Ukraine defenses
    >traps forces, which will lead to a minor loss, which will cause more problems than is needed.
    >raises Russian moral
    >looses river, which is both a natural choke point and a future obstical.

    if the Russian forces are repelled:
    >opens a hole in Russian lines
    >defeats Russian momentum
    >further depletes Russian moral.
    >provides an opportunity to entrap Russian forces.
    >frees up forces to deal with other break-thru attempts.

    right now both sides are playing whack a mole. this game is in favor of Ukraine, because the defender always has time on their side, given all other variables are held relatively stable.

    the Russians are opting that the conscripts get their training soon, and can support the actions in the field. they are using mostly their older equipment, so while they probably won't be increasing the qualitative aspect of their offensive, they will increase the volume of fire.

    the Ukrainians are opting that their conscripts are trained on NATO/Ally equipment and can support actions in the field. they are using loaned equipment, so while they might not have the easiest time supplying them, they are adopting the western belief of qualitative warfare.

    the factors are in favor of Ukraine, but not by much, and the ukranians are using this to their advantage.

    what to expect soon:
    >deep strikes into Russia.
    >open flaunting of direct involvement of NATO standing militarizes (Poland, US, and Germany are the most likely)
    this may be limited to air dominance, ground attack, and logistical security operations.
    >Russians using tactical nukes in a strategic deep strike.
    >Russians having a military coup of conscripts
    >open flaunting of the direct involvement of the Chinese PLA and PLAAF.

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