>YOU SHOULDN'TVE COME HERE NOW I'LL CUM IN YOU!!!!??!!??! >*unsheathes black rifle* >*anal rapes the largest strongest male to remove opposition* >*retreats into the California desert to start a hills have eyes family and to prey on plastic titted bimbos and fat asses going to vegas*
I don't need to justify anything, I'm a grown ass man. My response would highly depend on what questions they ask, but I certainly don't care what relatives think.
my inlaws are major fudds i just dont discuss it cause spending time with family is more important than giving into arguments for the sake of tv-induced brain rot.
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America was written explicitly to protect Americans right to kill traitors.
General knowledge, ergonomics, customizeability, etc.
Most common modern gun style, you should be familiar with it, it's like not knowing how a cellphone works, ... going from there explaining why it's so common.
Tell them that you've earned your right to choose with your military service. One of them will say that its a right guaranteed by the 2nd amendment. Divide and conquer. Then drink whiskey.
I don’t engage in those conversations. My grandparents own guns but hate those “assault weapons” because their nightly news is filled with Louisville gangbangers killing each other yet they think me shooting cans in the woods with an SKS is part of the problem. Boomers do not have enough active brain cells left to change their viewpoints on anything so it is not worth engaging.
Why does this surprise them? Portland and Shawnee have been shitholes forever. Now the inner city is moving closer to my mothers house near the Cherokee Triangle.
I’m happy I moved down to Shepherdsville.
As someone from out near La Grange, I thought that Cherokee was pretty much the same as all of those other native-named pavement ape resorts. I wish you and yours good luck down there.
Last time a neuron fired in a Boomer's head they realized land is probably a decent investment and that's how the housing market got fricked and never got unfricked. Not enough power to realize the second half of that statement where you should probably sell the thing you bought eventually
Good thing this kind of mindset is dying out, goddam boomers are brainrotted morons.
SHALL
>Boomers do not have enough active brain cells left
They never did have enough brain cells. They all have fricked up brains from leaded gasoline.
Last time a neuron fired in a Boomer's head they realized land is probably a decent investment and that's how the housing market got fricked and never got unfricked. Not enough power to realize the second half of that statement where you should probably sell the thing you bought eventually
>crying about Boomers
Is it safe to assume you guys are massive failures, and need someone to blame for it?
Tell them Russia could invade any day now and hope I don't have any autisti/k/ people in the room who explain why that will never happen, militarily speaking.
I don't have fudd relatives. The closest thing to a fudd I know only owns black powder guns because he was convicted for blowing up a pedophiles house with dynamite.
By saying that anyone who doesn’t own a modern rifle is a weak cringe homosexual with a death warrant and then I would roast them and their gay break action shotgun
I wouldn’t care enough to even say anything. If you don’t know the score by now and what’s going on in the world then you’re a moron. Luckily I have good genetics and my entire family shares pretty close opinions on most things
My grandpa is a fudd and used to hate the ar-15. Then I bought him an M&P and took him shooting. Now it’s next to his bed instead of his sawed off single shot 20gauge fuddblaster.
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
I just say I was a member of a secret organisation dedicated to protecting the Holy Grail from Chinese communists and Vladimir Putin and the Mullahs in Iran so they could not gain immortality and open a portal to hell. Lots of eye contact and a completely calm voice.
I was asked this a few times as I have over 100 guns of different types and ages from modern to ancient. For situations with real gun grabbers I just say that I thought it best I bought it when I saw it on sale to prevent someone dangerous from owning it and ensure it was kept safely.
I have to deal with this constantly because I'm in a ban state. There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15. Banning it is like banning a Honda Civic because it's involved in the most accidents/drunk driving / whatever. Lately, they've been fixated on the 5.56 round itself and how it tumbles and explodes and whatever else some homosexual on CNN told them. So, I have to enlighten them to two major facts: 1) other rifles can fire the same bullet. 2) AR's can fire different bullets. I had to watch talking head read radio transcripts and defend the fricking Uvalde PD because black rifle too scary.
I cap it off with this: if every salt weapon disappeared today, not banned new sales while leaving everything current still in circulation, but magically disappeared, there would still be mass shootings. Columbine, Virginia Tech, every basketball american shooting don't depend on the scary black rifles.
To the car analogy, it's more like banning humvees because the military uses them. Ar-15s kill less people every year than fist fights do, so the analogy of "Honda civics kill more people than other cars so we're banning them" doesn't actually work.
It does though because honda civics are the bread and butter of cheap cars, and so is the ar15 the bread and butter of semiauto rifles in the US.
Almost nobody owns a fricking hummer and its viewed as an expensive luxury
Not remotely the same role as the ar15
To the car analogy, it's more like banning humvees because the military uses them. Ar-15s kill less people every year than fist fights do, so the analogy of "Honda civics kill more people than other cars so we're banning them" doesn't actually work.
Uh yeah that's great but I prefer having discussions about the virtues of gun ownership instead of sticking my fingers in my ears and saying "nuh uh" any time I encounter a graboid
Important point because I think a lot of people retroactively assume AR-15s were used at Columbine and it didn’t happen smack dab in the middle of the federal AWB.
I made it myself, I have a muzzleloader I made too, but no one makes blank receivers for hunting rifles. Why would you want something mexicans made in a factory uncle Carl?
If you're a functioning adult, it shouldn't matter. I have my own house. I'll own whatever guns I want. If you're a NEET living at home, your family is probably concerned because you give off schizo school shooter vibes.
My family isn't a bunch of commies, so I've never had to have this conversation with them. But you could start with the atrocities committed by Nazi Germany, the USSR, and communists regimes around the world like the Khmer Rouge. The Founding Fathers, who led a violent revolt against their authoritarian government, understood the deterrence that an armed populace provides.
Don't let them drag you into the argument that the right to keep and bear arms only applies to the "militia" and the DOD. There's a reason the second amendment is in the bill of rights and not Article 1. of the Constitution. The Anti-Federalist fought tooth and nail to get individual rights enumerated into the bill of rights because they foresaw the frickery that would come about from the federal government if we didn't explicitly lay out what rights they couldn't touch.
You can also point out the decline of the mental health system. Instead of tossing mentally ill people in asylums where they can't hurt the public, in the 1950's we started releasing them onto the streets with the hope that medication will solve all their issues. Starting in the '60s, you can track the inverse relationship between the insane asylum population and the number of mentally ill individuals in prison. Couple that with the revolving door of today's justice system, and you have dangerous people wandering around the streets hurting innocent people.
It's also important to break down the numbers behind US gun deaths. Roughly 2/3rds of those are suicides. But when you compare the US suicide rate to other nations, we're number 23 despite our lax gun laws. If gun ownership leads to suicides, we should be number 2 just behind Switzerland.
I don't have any fudd relatives. My mom, and grandma were raging liberals 5 years ago. Now they both have guns. I had to help my dad teach my mom to shoot and it was hilarious, but she finally learned. My grandma remarried /kpol/ incarnate and I fricking hate him. But he got her into guns 50 years of her b***hing about them.
In my experience, I was the first in my immediate and partially extended family to get into modern semi-automatics after sandy hook (I was around 16 or 17 then). My parents and paternal grandparents were definitely concerned at first, especially when I bought an AK on my 18th birthday. They were hunting rifle types, but I had been asked things like why would you want an assault rifle. Anyway, they all own ARs now. I'm not an AK gay anymore though. I think the best response is to continue being a good dude, and your family will eventually come around with familiarity. As long as you're not a moron or sperg about it, that is. >pic semi related
Shooting is like golf with explosions, it’s you against yourself for the most accurate shots you can get in a given environment. This gun is just a driver, it’s got its own place and does its own thing very well.
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
It takes an average of 10 minutes for the cops to respond in an emergency with their own semi-auto weapons. It takes 10 seconds, if that, with one of your own. Also, more ammunition and less time between shots is always better than the inverse in such conditions, hence why cops carry such weapons themselves.
FDR's communist riddled administration put relatives in literal race camps in living memory of Silent and Greatest Generations. It has happened here and it will happen again thanks to ignorant morons who should have their political suffrage stripped. You are the blackest Uncle Tom ---------s in the history of the world voting Blue.
I just always say that ameruca was founded on the principle that citizens shoulf have the same firepower as the governmwnt becaause it is the only thing that keeps them honest and that we should be actually able to have way more
Right man. Weapons and our right to have them is a major component of this countrys founding history. The founders would be starting another revolution at the thought of the existence of nfa or atf. Thats a blatant violation of the 2a and a slap in the face to what this countrys government is charged to protect
If you stop thinking ideologically and start thinking functionally, ATF is actually a friend of responsible gun owners. If ATF wasn’t there to curb the worst excesses, there would be greater political pressure to gun grab, far more people calling for tighter restrictions.
>If ATF wasn’t there to curb the worst excesses,
what reality are you living in? Where has the ATF been with all "dem glock switches" flooding every shithole city? Why aren't they going after J'martius Brown for having a machine gun and short barreled rifle? Oh, they'd rather try rounding up people who bought the fart triggers. You know the thing that is demonstratively not a machine gun. They'd rather be wasting everyone's time trying to redefine cope braces into stocks. They'd rather do literally anything than they're fricking jobs. Frick feds and frick you.
Just because blacks use it, doesn’t mean I can’t, racism is not ok
>YOU SHOULDN'TVE COME HERE NOW I'LL CUM IN YOU!!!!??!!??!
>*unsheathes black rifle*
>*anal rapes the largest strongest male to remove opposition*
>*retreats into the California desert to start a hills have eyes family and to prey on plastic titted bimbos and fat asses going to vegas*
I dont have to justify my rights to anyone IM AMERICAN
I don't need to justify anything, I'm a grown ass man. My response would highly depend on what questions they ask, but I certainly don't care what relatives think.
my inlaws are major fudds i just dont discuss it cause spending time with family is more important than giving into arguments for the sake of tv-induced brain rot.
Anon has imparted great wisdom.
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America was written explicitly to protect Americans right to kill traitors.
Come shooting with me sometime, first magazine is on me.
I wouldn't. I'm not accountable to some homosexual relative for what i wish to own.
Calm down Adolf
General knowledge, ergonomics, customizeability, etc.
Most common modern gun style, you should be familiar with it, it's like not knowing how a cellphone works, ... going from there explaining why it's so common.
Easy.
Tell them that you've earned your right to choose with your military service. One of them will say that its a right guaranteed by the 2nd amendment. Divide and conquer. Then drink whiskey.
you don't need to justify it. you had your own money and its your god-given right
call them racist.
I have a black wife and they only associate with white people
I use a grey rifle instead
I don't want my family to think I'm a homosexual
Just tell them its fun and let them seethe about it
I don’t engage in those conversations. My grandparents own guns but hate those “assault weapons” because their nightly news is filled with Louisville gangbangers killing each other yet they think me shooting cans in the woods with an SKS is part of the problem. Boomers do not have enough active brain cells left to change their viewpoints on anything so it is not worth engaging.
Good thing this kind of mindset is dying out, goddam boomers are brainrotted morons.
Why does this surprise them? Portland and Shawnee have been shitholes forever. Now the inner city is moving closer to my mothers house near the Cherokee Triangle.
I’m happy I moved down to Shepherdsville.
As someone from out near La Grange, I thought that Cherokee was pretty much the same as all of those other native-named pavement ape resorts. I wish you and yours good luck down there.
SHALL
>Boomers do not have enough active brain cells left
They never did have enough brain cells. They all have fricked up brains from leaded gasoline.
Last time a neuron fired in a Boomer's head they realized land is probably a decent investment and that's how the housing market got fricked and never got unfricked. Not enough power to realize the second half of that statement where you should probably sell the thing you bought eventually
>crying about Boomers
Is it safe to assume you guys are massive failures, and need someone to blame for it?
>hysterical boomer kvetching
Just go already, gramps.
The day of the pillow won’t spare you
Where do you shoot for fun, fellow 502 bro?
Inalienable rights need not be justified
Ruger Mini-14 w/ a wood stock might help.
Also remind them that the antis ultimately want to ban all firearms.
>yeah, but what kind of American are you?
trans
It's cheaper than a mini14
Black synthetic stocks are also not prone to rot if you set them on wet ground for a long ass period of time.
I don't have to justify anything. What are they going to do, take it away?
They could think that you’re some violence-obsessed weirdo, owning guns that are good for nothin’ but killin’ people.
>"okay listen,"
> gets on the table
>
Tell them Russia could invade any day now and hope I don't have any autisti/k/ people in the room who explain why that will never happen, militarily speaking.
they're fun, press the bolt release doesnt that make a cool noise?
pull out my dick. points made.
Justify? What are you on about. I can spend my money however I damn well please.
>Justify
Not necessary and a wasted effort. Invite them to come shoot if they like. Guns aren't for everybody.
I don't have fudd relatives. The closest thing to a fudd I know only owns black powder guns because he was convicted for blowing up a pedophiles house with dynamite.
I’m going to build the man an AR-15 on the house. He did God’s work
did it un-rape your sister?
My sister has never been raped because I'm the only man she's ever slept with, and it has always been consensual.
not sure it counts if she's not old enough to tell you no
By saying that anyone who doesn’t own a modern rifle is a weak cringe homosexual with a death warrant and then I would roast them and their gay break action shotgun
This is objectively true anyway.
I wouldn’t care enough to even say anything. If you don’t know the score by now and what’s going on in the world then you’re a moron. Luckily I have good genetics and my entire family shares pretty close opinions on most things
My grandpa is a fudd and used to hate the ar-15. Then I bought him an M&P and took him shooting. Now it’s next to his bed instead of his sawed off single shot 20gauge fuddblaster.
>black rifle
I hope that I never have to hear someone using that word IRL to describe a weapon.
It was quite common like ten years ago, been replaced entirely by AR now even when that's not accurate.
My grandma was real tepid about them until I pointed out the AK47 design was as old as she was and the AR15 came out while she was in high school
The ar15 is 70 years old, its historic.
I just like it
Just own an M16 and say it’s for historical reasons
The only AR I own is a retro A2 clone if I did feel like having that argument they know I’m a history and military autist I could easily justify it
By that logic only Nascar drivers should have sports cars
>listen to the news brainwashing bias media.
I cant imagine being that much of a homosexual.
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
I just say I was a member of a secret organisation dedicated to protecting the Holy Grail from Chinese communists and Vladimir Putin and the Mullahs in Iran so they could not gain immortality and open a portal to hell. Lots of eye contact and a completely calm voice.
Tell them to stop being racist and that your home is a sanctuary of firearm diversity
I was asked this a few times as I have over 100 guns of different types and ages from modern to ancient. For situations with real gun grabbers I just say that I thought it best I bought it when I saw it on sale to prevent someone dangerous from owning it and ensure it was kept safely.
I wanted one so I bought one
Its fun.
Cheep with cheep ammo
Light
Can configure how I want
Looks cool
> .223 almost 50cpr
>cheep
on what planet?
Compare it to literally any other rifle cartridge
none of my relatives are homosexuals, so it isn't a problem.
i wanted it.
i bought it.
i'll do it again.
problem?
I have to deal with this constantly because I'm in a ban state. There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15. Banning it is like banning a Honda Civic because it's involved in the most accidents/drunk driving / whatever. Lately, they've been fixated on the 5.56 round itself and how it tumbles and explodes and whatever else some homosexual on CNN told them. So, I have to enlighten them to two major facts: 1) other rifles can fire the same bullet. 2) AR's can fire different bullets. I had to watch talking head read radio transcripts and defend the fricking Uvalde PD because black rifle too scary.
I cap it off with this: if every salt weapon disappeared today, not banned new sales while leaving everything current still in circulation, but magically disappeared, there would still be mass shootings. Columbine, Virginia Tech, every basketball american shooting don't depend on the scary black rifles.
To the car analogy, it's more like banning humvees because the military uses them. Ar-15s kill less people every year than fist fights do, so the analogy of "Honda civics kill more people than other cars so we're banning them" doesn't actually work.
It does though because honda civics are the bread and butter of cheap cars, and so is the ar15 the bread and butter of semiauto rifles in the US.
Almost nobody owns a fricking hummer and its viewed as an expensive luxury
Not remotely the same role as the ar15
Hope this helps
Uh yeah that's great but I prefer having discussions about the virtues of gun ownership instead of sticking my fingers in my ears and saying "nuh uh" any time I encounter a graboid
>virtues of gun ownership
In the context of the Second Amendment, that would be armed resistance to authorities, invaders, race rioters, etc.
Important point because I think a lot of people retroactively assume AR-15s were used at Columbine and it didn’t happen smack dab in the middle of the federal AWB.
I made it myself, I have a muzzleloader I made too, but no one makes blank receivers for hunting rifles. Why would you want something mexicans made in a factory uncle Carl?
If you're a functioning adult, it shouldn't matter. I have my own house. I'll own whatever guns I want. If you're a NEET living at home, your family is probably concerned because you give off schizo school shooter vibes.
My family isn't a bunch of commies, so I've never had to have this conversation with them. But you could start with the atrocities committed by Nazi Germany, the USSR, and communists regimes around the world like the Khmer Rouge. The Founding Fathers, who led a violent revolt against their authoritarian government, understood the deterrence that an armed populace provides.
Don't let them drag you into the argument that the right to keep and bear arms only applies to the "militia" and the DOD. There's a reason the second amendment is in the bill of rights and not Article 1. of the Constitution. The Anti-Federalist fought tooth and nail to get individual rights enumerated into the bill of rights because they foresaw the frickery that would come about from the federal government if we didn't explicitly lay out what rights they couldn't touch.
You can also point out the decline of the mental health system. Instead of tossing mentally ill people in asylums where they can't hurt the public, in the 1950's we started releasing them onto the streets with the hope that medication will solve all their issues. Starting in the '60s, you can track the inverse relationship between the insane asylum population and the number of mentally ill individuals in prison. Couple that with the revolving door of today's justice system, and you have dangerous people wandering around the streets hurting innocent people.
It's also important to break down the numbers behind US gun deaths. Roughly 2/3rds of those are suicides. But when you compare the US suicide rate to other nations, we're number 23 despite our lax gun laws. If gun ownership leads to suicides, we should be number 2 just behind Switzerland.
I'm in the National Guard and need to maintain proficiency with my tools.
I don't have any fudd relatives. My mom, and grandma were raging liberals 5 years ago. Now they both have guns. I had to help my dad teach my mom to shoot and it was hilarious, but she finally learned. My grandma remarried /kpol/ incarnate and I fricking hate him. But he got her into guns 50 years of her b***hing about them.
I've got a rifle, they're the ones requiring justification now.
I don't need to justify my interests and hobbies to other people. I don't care what they think.
In my experience, I was the first in my immediate and partially extended family to get into modern semi-automatics after sandy hook (I was around 16 or 17 then). My parents and paternal grandparents were definitely concerned at first, especially when I bought an AK on my 18th birthday. They were hunting rifle types, but I had been asked things like why would you want an assault rifle. Anyway, they all own ARs now. I'm not an AK gay anymore though. I think the best response is to continue being a good dude, and your family will eventually come around with familiarity. As long as you're not a moron or sperg about it, that is.
>pic semi related
Shooting is like golf with explosions, it’s you against yourself for the most accurate shots you can get in a given environment. This gun is just a driver, it’s got its own place and does its own thing very well.
Because I have a constitutional right to kill people who interrupt my other God-given rights, including my own government.
I just think they're neat
I dont like ARs because personally I don't think they look good unless its a classic M16/A1 look with a carry handle and all
Expand your horizons
He's not wrong tho
and railz all over the place look like shit on anything
i quad rail ur mum
quad rails suck without gloves. I'm partial to those new top and bottom pics, sides mlok ones.
its not black tho
>How would you justify your ownership of a ”black rifle” to fudd relatives if they started asking about it?
It takes an average of 10 minutes for the cops to respond in an emergency with their own semi-auto weapons. It takes 10 seconds, if that, with one of your own. Also, more ammunition and less time between shots is always better than the inverse in such conditions, hence why cops carry such weapons themselves.
"It's what I know how to use." Has never failed me.
that's racist
FDR's communist riddled administration put relatives in literal race camps in living memory of Silent and Greatest Generations. It has happened here and it will happen again thanks to ignorant morons who should have their political suffrage stripped. You are the blackest Uncle Tom ---------s in the history of the world voting Blue.
i'm poor and can't afford anything actually interesting
I just always say that ameruca was founded on the principle that citizens shoulf have the same firepower as the governmwnt becaause it is the only thing that keeps them honest and that we should be actually able to have way more
Literally (using the term correctly) America exists because ships from merchants etc were used in the fight against the British.
Right man. Weapons and our right to have them is a major component of this countrys founding history. The founders would be starting another revolution at the thought of the existence of nfa or atf. Thats a blatant violation of the 2a and a slap in the face to what this countrys government is charged to protect
If you stop thinking ideologically and start thinking functionally, ATF is actually a friend of responsible gun owners. If ATF wasn’t there to curb the worst excesses, there would be greater political pressure to gun grab, far more people calling for tighter restrictions.
>t. ATF
no. have a nice day
>If ATF wasn’t there to curb the worst excesses,
what reality are you living in? Where has the ATF been with all "dem glock switches" flooding every shithole city? Why aren't they going after J'martius Brown for having a machine gun and short barreled rifle? Oh, they'd rather try rounding up people who bought the fart triggers. You know the thing that is demonstratively not a machine gun. They'd rather be wasting everyone's time trying to redefine cope braces into stocks. They'd rather do literally anything than they're fricking jobs. Frick feds and frick you.
that's not how you spell littoral, carlos. you'll never get a visa like that.
I know you want to go to the beach but it's winter. Just wait until it's summer.
"I might have a need to kill 30-50 feral hogs in 3-5 minutes to protect my small kids while they play."
just tell them you needed the rifle so you can use your launcher
>>the ar-15 is a 60 years old design
how old are these fudds? the ar-15 is going to be older than most of them pretty soon.
whip out my pocket constitution
Un-ironically based. I have so many of those things.
You don’t get that even if constitution allows something, it doesn’t justify why *you* personally need to own it?
By shooting them.