It depends on India's geopolitical moves in the upcoming years. If by some miracle a new US government makes India firmly ally itself with them, I wouldn't be surprised if F35s become a talking point at one moment. Having India as an american ally would prove immensely valuable because it is a demographical giant bordering China, hindering every Chinese display of aggression anywhere with its frickhuge army. It's not that competent of course, but the sheer numbers of India's army will force China to always fight with one hand on its back as there would be a permanent risk of some attack through the Himalayas.
But yeah, I could maybe see Trump becoming buddy buddy with Modi if they both get reelected this year but it's hard to judge whether India will actually end its policy of non-allignment.
The US has really really tried to get India more in its sphere during Biden's term. Just see actions like Modi's state visit last year. It's just that it hasn't led to something fruitful because India keeps pushing its whole non-allignment stance, but there has definitely been an effort from the american side to lure India more into their camp.
The problem with India is they're as mercenary as the French with far greater a sense of grandeur and an even worse smell. India now is the China of tomorrow, and I mean that in the most unflattering way possible. The best foreign policy outcome would be India, Pakistan, and China fighting a three way war they all lose.
I agree, but that mercenary motive is enlarged by the nationalist loonies who are in charge. For more than a decade the whole population has now been drinking the propaganda coolaid to such a degree that it's harder and harder to come back.
BUT I do think there is still a possibility that in the long term India can kinda let it go and get somewhat back to its senses, it didn't use to be as virulent crazy as it was about two decades ago and it might probably require some domestic disaster that exposes their current political leadership, but I deem such a pivot still likelier than for instance China dropping the CCP on its own initiative.
>F35s become a talking point at one moment.
Won't happen, hell they nearly kicked out Turkey from Nato for daring to operate S-400 and F-35 that they had already paid for and even produced some of the part from.
Indian F-35 is a streetshitters wet dream and not reality.
1. Using Sukhoi SU-30 MKI.
2. Tag-team with Iran
Go and read up on Indian foreign policy and Indian-US relations buddy.
>1. Using Sukhoi SU-30 MKI.
Su-30MKI's have been affectifly nullified since PAF's adoption of AIM-120C, see February 2019 for more details. >Iran
They're in full "but ve are muslim brozzers" mode atm trying not to discover why Pakistan is a military with a country not the other way round.
HAL TejAs
>tejas
Rafale may be a fantastic 4th gen, but I wouldn't be so sure it can go toe to toe with 5th gens even if they're Chinese
If used the right way, so with an AWACS blanket, high-speed encrypted data-links and armed to the teeth with more meteors than fear itself then yes Rafales could probably put up a fight against 5th gens.
Poor hygiene probably.
It depends on India's geopolitical moves in the upcoming years. If by some miracle a new US government makes India firmly ally itself with them, I wouldn't be surprised if F35s become a talking point at one moment. Having India as an american ally would prove immensely valuable because it is a demographical giant bordering China, hindering every Chinese display of aggression anywhere with its frickhuge army. It's not that competent of course, but the sheer numbers of India's army will force China to always fight with one hand on its back as there would be a permanent risk of some attack through the Himalayas.
But yeah, I could maybe see Trump becoming buddy buddy with Modi if they both get reelected this year but it's hard to judge whether India will actually end its policy of non-allignment.
1. Using Sukhoi SU-30 MKI.
2. Tag-team with Iran
Go and read up on Indian foreign policy and Indian-US relations buddy.
The US has really really tried to get India more in its sphere during Biden's term. Just see actions like Modi's state visit last year. It's just that it hasn't led to something fruitful because India keeps pushing its whole non-allignment stance, but there has definitely been an effort from the american side to lure India more into their camp.
The problem with India is they're as mercenary as the French with far greater a sense of grandeur and an even worse smell. India now is the China of tomorrow, and I mean that in the most unflattering way possible. The best foreign policy outcome would be India, Pakistan, and China fighting a three way war they all lose.
I agree, but that mercenary motive is enlarged by the nationalist loonies who are in charge. For more than a decade the whole population has now been drinking the propaganda coolaid to such a degree that it's harder and harder to come back.
BUT I do think there is still a possibility that in the long term India can kinda let it go and get somewhat back to its senses, it didn't use to be as virulent crazy as it was about two decades ago and it might probably require some domestic disaster that exposes their current political leadership, but I deem such a pivot still likelier than for instance China dropping the CCP on its own initiative.
>India, Pakistan, and China fighting a three way war they all lose
Three India threads up at once I think spam.
>three way war
Er, dude? China and Pakistan are allies.
>2. Tag-team with Iran
this wont work because pakistan allied with turkey and azerbaijan
>F35s become a talking point at one moment.
Won't happen, hell they nearly kicked out Turkey from Nato for daring to operate S-400 and F-35 that they had already paid for and even produced some of the part from.
Indian F-35 is a streetshitters wet dream and not reality.
>1. Using Sukhoi SU-30 MKI.
Su-30MKI's have been affectifly nullified since PAF's adoption of AIM-120C, see February 2019 for more details.
>Iran
They're in full "but ve are muslim brozzers" mode atm trying not to discover why Pakistan is a military with a country not the other way round.
>tejas
If used the right way, so with an AWACS blanket, high-speed encrypted data-links and armed to the teeth with more meteors than fear itself then yes Rafales could probably put up a fight against 5th gens.
India has none of the above.
HAL TejAs
let Iran do it
A MiG-21 is more than sufficient tbh.
India should have kept the MiG-21 line they had running. Or accepted the F-16 or F-18 factory that was offered. Or not wasted the Rafiael factory...
Would India's Rafales stand a chance against J-20s and FC-31s?
No, but not because the raffle isn't a fantastic plane, but because the Indians get spanked by hotrodded MiG-21s that screen F-16s with AMRAAMs.
Rafale may be a fantastic 4th gen, but I wouldn't be so sure it can go toe to toe with 5th gens even if they're Chinese