Massive air support. Also, Kurds are reportedly not Arabs and therefore reliable boots on the ground, even if they're not up to western professional standards. Even ISIS said that Kurds are tougher to fight and almost impossible to scare off easily like Arabs, Syrian PKK Kurds even more than Iraqi Peshmerga ones.
Western air support and the fact that the Peshmerga were the defenders and ISIS the invaders, so ISIS had no local support and couldn't rely on the typical guerilla tactics that served the Taliban so well.
Not in the initial stages. The Iraqi army at the time was still horribly inexperienced and folded quickly in the early stages of ISIS' invasion while the more seasoned Kurdish militias held their ground. Western air support was critical in halting ISIS' momentum and eventually enabling the recapture of occupied territory.
It's not that they're Arab, it's that they're Muslim. Muslims can only leverage violence against parties that are otherwise unable to adequately defend themselves.
>Iraqi Army >They're Arabs
Good lord this thread is embarrassing lmao. A large part of Iraq's problems can be chalked up to the fact that there are more Persians than Arabs in Iraq. They might all be Arabs to us but the difference is very worth killing for to them.
Kurds confuse me, I hear people say they are some of the most hardcore conservative muslims on the planet yet they seem to be pretty western-like in encouraging women to be girlbosses.
That shit does not compute in my brain.
There is no "the Kurds" dude. The KRG in Iraq is fairly secular compared to the rest of the country but infamously the Barzani government is pretty cozy with the regime in Turkey etc. The armed forces of the political parties in the KRG make up the Peshmerga OP mistakenly thinks beat ISIS, in reality they folded like a wet paper bag.
Then there are the various militias operating under the PKK like the YPG in Syria and the YBS in Iraq, which are way more radical about stuff like gender equality. These are the Kurds the US augmented with airstrikes that actually broke ISIS's back, and the State Department has very much played down the unpalatable aspects of their politics and played up others to make them seem like western progressives, when in reality in many senses it's much more radical than what you'll ever hear from western feminists.
The former are often openly hostile with the latter, up to and including shooting each other in Shengal about a year ago.
>Then there are the various militias operating under the PKK like the YPG in Syria and the YBS in Iraq, which are way more radical about stuff like gender equality ... when in reality in many senses it's much more radical than what you'll ever hear from western feminists.
Brace Belden went over there and talked about it, said the culture in Rojava is very conservative but the YPG/YPJ (who *definitely* don't have *anything* to do with the PKK in Turkey in any way no siree whatsoever) function as like a vanguard within the society to lead it and carry it forward which comes from communist traditions, and gender equality is part of that but it seemed to me like they didn't want to get too far ahead of it. The men and women in the different units will hang out, you can't have sex. There's no fricking around about that, and there are anti-romance laws, they're subject to military discipline. You don't want to brush your teeth or take your socks off around the women.
The other thing is that it's not just something they jump in and out of. The people in the organization are committed for life and it's a do-or-die thing. So it's kind of like socialist organizations in America... but actually effective.
>The former are often openly hostile with the latter, up to and including shooting each other in Shengal about a year ago.
That's a thing I don't know a lot about. I moseyed my way over to a Trump rally right after he gave the tilt and nod for Turkey to move in, and there was a big crowd of pissed-off Kurds outside the rally protesting -- wanting him to tell Turkey to back off, and they were mostly Iraqi Kurds with standard Kurdish flags and KRG symbols. Not much YPG/YPJ stuff, but they got a couple of "biji yeh-peh-geh" chants going. Women really leading it too and in the front and being loud. One Proud Boy wandered over confused as hell and didn't know if antifa showed up or what but he was like "oh... uhh... we support you!!!!"
It all came to a head like a year, year and a half ago due to pressure from Turkey. Eventually the earthquake in Turkey and lack of will from their Iraqi partners due to the YBS going into their tunnels killed the op, but the YBS was absolutely at war with a coalition of KRG, Iraqi, and Turkish forces for a few months there.
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"Peshmerga" translates roughly to "death seeker" in kurmanji and was definitely erroneously used to refer to all Kurdish fighters by western media, IMO to obfuscate the leftist nature of the YPG and their ties to the PKK.
The only forces calling themselves "peshmerga" in Kurdistan are KRG forces.
ISIS attacked Iraq right after the Iraqi government purged all the Sunnis (the experienced guys) from authority positions. So when the Iraqi government sent the army into Sunni areas, they had minimal local support and maximum incompetence, causing the (Shia) officers to flee and the enlisted to get caught
As the fight went into Shiite lands, the army was more willing to put up a fight
Massive air support. Also, Kurds are reportedly not Arabs and therefore reliable boots on the ground, even if they're not up to western professional standards. Even ISIS said that Kurds are tougher to fight and almost impossible to scare off easily like Arabs, Syrian PKK Kurds even more than Iraqi Peshmerga ones.
Kurds confuse me, I hear people say they are some of the most hardcore conservative muslims on the planet yet they seem to be pretty western-like in encouraging women to be girlbosses.
That shit does not compute in my brain.
There's like 30 Million of them, they're the biggest ethnic group in the world that doesn't have it's own state. They're a pretty diverse people.
The best thing they have is the autonomous region in northern iraq with it's own laws and military, it's a secular region and much more western than the rest of iraq
>I hear people say they are some of the most hardcore conservative muslims on the planet yet they seem to be pretty western-like in encouraging women to be girlbosses.
Some Kurds are the former and some are the latter. A lot was made of the persecution of the Yazidis too but their womenfolk were dealt a shitty hand to begin with
Iraqi Kurds are fairly conservative and westernized due to their 20+year affiliation with the US military (Pershmerga)
Turkish Kurds are Communist terrorists from the 1970s (PKK)
Syrian Kurds are a mix of Turkish and American influence (SDF)
Iranian Kurds are mostly conservative and quiet due to them being doubly disliked (Kurdish and Sunni)
Western air support and the fact that the Peshmerga were the defenders and ISIS the invaders, so ISIS had no local support and couldn't rely on the typical guerilla tactics that served the Taliban so well.
>The peshmerga didn't defeat ISIS lol
I've heard "peshmerga" just means "soldier" or "warrior" (or something like that) in Kurdish but yeah it's often used to refer to the KRG's forces in Iraq. But could you technically call the YPG/YPJ cadres "peshmerga" too? I dunno. It was often used in the Western press with a capital P like Peshmerga like there was some organization calling itself that in Iraqi Kurdistan, but that's apparently not accurate. I have to look it up.
"Peshmerga" translates roughly to "death seeker" in kurmanji and was definitely erroneously used to refer to all Kurdish fighters by western media, IMO to obfuscate the leftist nature of the YPG and their ties to the PKK.
The only forces calling themselves "peshmerga" in Kurdistan are KRG forces.
Some years back there were pictures floating around PrepHole of Kurdish women that were blown in half by white phosphorous weaponry. They're clothes were gone and their faces were intact but sort of contorted like you might expect during an orgasm. Their breasts were out, perfectly intact and you could see scorch marks where they were cooked. Their hair was still braided and you could tell they were attractive women. Another one had been raped with her pants pulled off and bullet holes in her but, yet another was beheaded, her head held up for the camera.
Those pictures aren't posted anymore.
Well, I just re-read it and I'm very ashamed of all the typos. I'm more ashamed of the fact that I got an erection from some of the picture. That was back from before PrepHole though. It was only the one time though and I didn't save them. Sometimes stuff like this gives me an erection and I don't really know why, seem wrong; feel right.
ISIS was so comically evil that everyone else in the region and the world at large teamed up against them
They were real bad dudes, it was inevitable that they got shot down.
this
Ahh yes, the "declaring war on everybody" was such a 300 IQ move for ISIS
>How was Peshmerga able to defeat ISIS?
Air support from the entire planet
Didn't Iraq also get a lot of air support yet?
Yeah after their army fled from mosul
Not in the initial stages. The Iraqi army at the time was still horribly inexperienced and folded quickly in the early stages of ISIS' invasion while the more seasoned Kurdish militias held their ground. Western air support was critical in halting ISIS' momentum and eventually enabling the recapture of occupied territory.
Yes but they're arabs so they're cowardly, corrupt, undisciplined and generally very unreliable as partners on the ground
It's not that they're Arab, it's that they're Muslim. Muslims can only leverage violence against parties that are otherwise unable to adequately defend themselves.
No I'm pretty sure it's because they're Arabs. Vast majority of Peshmerga are muslims, too
Shia doesn't mean Persian, my kaffir
>Iraqi Army
>They're Arabs
Good lord this thread is embarrassing lmao. A large part of Iraq's problems can be chalked up to the fact that there are more Persians than Arabs in Iraq. They might all be Arabs to us but the difference is very worth killing for to them.
There is no "the Kurds" dude. The KRG in Iraq is fairly secular compared to the rest of the country but infamously the Barzani government is pretty cozy with the regime in Turkey etc. The armed forces of the political parties in the KRG make up the Peshmerga OP mistakenly thinks beat ISIS, in reality they folded like a wet paper bag.
Then there are the various militias operating under the PKK like the YPG in Syria and the YBS in Iraq, which are way more radical about stuff like gender equality. These are the Kurds the US augmented with airstrikes that actually broke ISIS's back, and the State Department has very much played down the unpalatable aspects of their politics and played up others to make them seem like western progressives, when in reality in many senses it's much more radical than what you'll ever hear from western feminists.
The former are often openly hostile with the latter, up to and including shooting each other in Shengal about a year ago.
>Then there are the various militias operating under the PKK like the YPG in Syria and the YBS in Iraq, which are way more radical about stuff like gender equality ... when in reality in many senses it's much more radical than what you'll ever hear from western feminists.
Brace Belden went over there and talked about it, said the culture in Rojava is very conservative but the YPG/YPJ (who *definitely* don't have *anything* to do with the PKK in Turkey in any way no siree whatsoever) function as like a vanguard within the society to lead it and carry it forward which comes from communist traditions, and gender equality is part of that but it seemed to me like they didn't want to get too far ahead of it. The men and women in the different units will hang out, you can't have sex. There's no fricking around about that, and there are anti-romance laws, they're subject to military discipline. You don't want to brush your teeth or take your socks off around the women.
The other thing is that it's not just something they jump in and out of. The people in the organization are committed for life and it's a do-or-die thing. So it's kind of like socialist organizations in America... but actually effective.
>The former are often openly hostile with the latter, up to and including shooting each other in Shengal about a year ago.
That's a thing I don't know a lot about. I moseyed my way over to a Trump rally right after he gave the tilt and nod for Turkey to move in, and there was a big crowd of pissed-off Kurds outside the rally protesting -- wanting him to tell Turkey to back off, and they were mostly Iraqi Kurds with standard Kurdish flags and KRG symbols. Not much YPG/YPJ stuff, but they got a couple of "biji yeh-peh-geh" chants going. Women really leading it too and in the front and being loud. One Proud Boy wandered over confused as hell and didn't know if antifa showed up or what but he was like "oh... uhh... we support you!!!!"
Yeah the Kurdish diaspora, especially in America, also leans into the "our allies, The Kurds™©®" narrative big time, but the Barzani family is very cozy w the Erdogan regime and was taught a harsh lesson about openly fricking with the Iraqi government in 2017. Which puts them in general at-odds with the YBS in particular since they're the PKK affiliate operating within Iraq's borders. At one point the YBS was "officially" integrated into the Iraqi army but this was mostly a symbolic thing to try and clamp down on the narrative that the YBS was holding and controlling effectively sovereign territory inside Iraq. Nothing changed, to be clear.
It all came to a head like a year, year and a half ago due to pressure from Turkey. Eventually the earthquake in Turkey and lack of will from their Iraqi partners due to the YBS going into their tunnels killed the op, but the YBS was absolutely at war with a coalition of KRG, Iraqi, and Turkish forces for a few months there.
Got. Thanks.
> A large part of Iraq's problems can be chalked up to the fact that there are more Persians than Arabs in Iraq
Shia Arabs are not Persians
ISIS attacked Iraq right after the Iraqi government purged all the Sunnis (the experienced guys) from authority positions. So when the Iraqi government sent the army into Sunni areas, they had minimal local support and maximum incompetence, causing the (Shia) officers to flee and the enlisted to get caught
As the fight went into Shiite lands, the army was more willing to put up a fight
business idea: pay peshmerga to go fight the taliban next
Massive air support. Also, Kurds are reportedly not Arabs and therefore reliable boots on the ground, even if they're not up to western professional standards. Even ISIS said that Kurds are tougher to fight and almost impossible to scare off easily like Arabs, Syrian PKK Kurds even more than Iraqi Peshmerga ones.
Kurds confuse me, I hear people say they are some of the most hardcore conservative muslims on the planet yet they seem to be pretty western-like in encouraging women to be girlbosses.
That shit does not compute in my brain.
There's like 30 Million of them, they're the biggest ethnic group in the world that doesn't have it's own state. They're a pretty diverse people.
The best thing they have is the autonomous region in northern iraq with it's own laws and military, it's a secular region and much more western than the rest of iraq
>anon when he finds out that two people of the same ethnicity can disagree politically
tbh it's not particularly common in that region, MENA ethnoreligious groups usually form pretty uniform political groups too.
>I hear people say they are some of the most hardcore conservative muslims on the planet yet they seem to be pretty western-like in encouraging women to be girlbosses.
Some Kurds are the former and some are the latter. A lot was made of the persecution of the Yazidis too but their womenfolk were dealt a shitty hand to begin with
Iraqi Kurds are fairly conservative and westernized due to their 20+year affiliation with the US military (Pershmerga)
Turkish Kurds are Communist terrorists from the 1970s (PKK)
Syrian Kurds are a mix of Turkish and American influence (SDF)
Iranian Kurds are mostly conservative and quiet due to them being doubly disliked (Kurdish and Sunni)
Western air support and the fact that the Peshmerga were the defenders and ISIS the invaders, so ISIS had no local support and couldn't rely on the typical guerilla tactics that served the Taliban so well.
>tfw no kurdish militant gf
One in the middle is clearly the only cute one
The brownest one is the cutest. I'd get her pregnant in the field and send her home to be my housewife
is no one gonna ask why he's holding the binoculars like that?
If you know, you know.
i dont know
It’s alright, neither do I.
The US stopped funding them. CIA/Mossad were extremely pissed that one of their terror groups lost funding.
Curly bushed desert veganas
The peshmerga didn't defeat ISIS lol
A coalition spearheaded by the YPG with heavy US air support defeated ISIS.
>The peshmerga didn't defeat ISIS lol
I've heard "peshmerga" just means "soldier" or "warrior" (or something like that) in Kurdish but yeah it's often used to refer to the KRG's forces in Iraq. But could you technically call the YPG/YPJ cadres "peshmerga" too? I dunno. It was often used in the Western press with a capital P like Peshmerga like there was some organization calling itself that in Iraqi Kurdistan, but that's apparently not accurate. I have to look it up.
"Peshmerga" translates roughly to "death seeker" in kurmanji and was definitely erroneously used to refer to all Kurdish fighters by western media, IMO to obfuscate the leftist nature of the YPG and their ties to the PKK.
The only forces calling themselves "peshmerga" in Kurdistan are KRG forces.
but seriously tho why is the holding the binos like that
Girl power
Some years back there were pictures floating around PrepHole of Kurdish women that were blown in half by white phosphorous weaponry. They're clothes were gone and their faces were intact but sort of contorted like you might expect during an orgasm. Their breasts were out, perfectly intact and you could see scorch marks where they were cooked. Their hair was still braided and you could tell they were attractive women. Another one had been raped with her pants pulled off and bullet holes in her but, yet another was beheaded, her head held up for the camera.
Those pictures aren't posted anymore.
What did anon mean by this
Well, I just re-read it and I'm very ashamed of all the typos. I'm more ashamed of the fact that I got an erection from some of the picture. That was back from before PrepHole though. It was only the one time though and I didn't save them. Sometimes stuff like this gives me an erection and I don't really know why, seem wrong; feel right.
Does anyone have the pics?
they didnt