How was a lancet even able to get a hit on a stormer anyway. The starstreak should have no problems defeating slow flying drones. This reminds me of those pantsir tb2 videos
How was a lancet even able to get a hit on a stormer anyway.
How was a lancet even able to get a hit on a stormer anyway. The starstreak should have no problems defeating slow flying drones. This reminds me of those pantsir tb2 videos
Starstreak is saclos guided. Do you really think there’s a gunner scanning the skys 24-7?
>you really think there’s a gunner scanning the skys 24-7?
isn't that the radars job? why the hell would a gunner manually search for a target
There's no radar, dingdong. It's just an IFV with a bunch of MANPADS
well dingdong that's explains why it got clapped and why starstreak is labeled the worst manpad in Ukraine
>and why starstreak is labeled the worst manpad in Ukraine
Are there manpads with built in radars im not aware of?
kek I would expect a modern shorad to have a radar on the vehicle or to use a off board radar for tracking
Typically you'd have an off board radar that can cue targets for the gunner. Air defense should generally be thought of as a network rather than a singe piece of equipment that is totally integrated.
I think you're confusing guidance system with air defense radar. There's no MANPADS to my knowledge that has an integral radar array component, the operator must visually spot the target.
>There's no MANPADS to my knowledge that has an integral radar array component
Some Strela-1s (the BRDM mounted one) has a passive early warning radar similar to a RWR to give the gunner a heads up.
Interesting thanks
>Doesn't even have a search radar
Lmao, what is this 1960s tier piece of garbage?
That's pretty common on shorad systems.
>That's pretty common on shorad systems.
Except the Stormer.... Lol.
Lemao even.
Radars on V/SHORAD vehicles are a bit of a double edged sword.
Since the carried weapon has short (usually <15 km) range, the vehicle has to get relatively close to the frontline in order to provide an effective screen (if used for screening frontline troops). Doing so makes the vehicle vulnerable to triangulation from radar detectors, which pretty much inevitably leads to an artillery barrage in the determined location.
OTOH, having a radar definitely improves battlefield awareness, and reduces the likelihood of cheeky drone ambushes.
Starstreak is the least useful air defense system in Ukraine. It's garbage.
We talked about this months ago when it happened, the vehicle had thrown a track and was abandoned for the moment. Not that it matters because lancet did nothing to it and it was recovered and repaired lol
It wasn’t abandoned and it absolutely wasn’t repaired. The missile launcher was a total loss.
The back door was open, no one was around and there were tow marks in the mud.
the vehicle was then recovered and is shown in the video that OP's picture was from which displayed how lancet did literally nothing of note.
The vehcile was recovered. The launcher was damaged beyond repair from shrapnel.
>The launcher was damaged beyond repair from shrapnel.
it was repaired. Just fricking look at it, it's barely scratched. Even the main charge couldn't penetrate the GOATED CVR9T) armour.
>https://twitter.com/SanderRegter/status/1659527221902491650?s=20
Weren't there two Stormers hit by Lancets? The one in the middle of a field earlier this year, and rumors of a second one more recently.
One by lancet then a few days ago the Russians claimed to kill one with artillery but it was one of those hilarious edits where the video jumps forward in time and then the vehicle is invisible when the shall lands and doesn't show us anything after lol.
>It was a total loss
the Ukrainians literally said it went back into service., there is nothing about the damage that would make it a "total loss", worst case scenario you just don't use the one tube that's got a hole in it. But in reality it would make no difference because as long as the missile is held in place and connected, it fires from it's own storage container.
> the Russians claimed to kill one with artillery
There's this photo which the ziggers claim it's a Stormer.
Yeah that's not a stormer. Look at
the laser/optical system is on the front right of the vehicle. Whatever your image is has that grey thing on the left. If anything that looks like an open topped vehicle of some kind.
Actually I take that back, I went and found some other angles and it is stormer, just doesn't look like it from that angle.
vid
>https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1655190114790780928
Turns out that one is the one in the OP that's now repaired.
Seems like this one hit a mine, based on a nearby crater. The first one from March had thrown a track, unless I'm mistaken?
That’s not the launcher. OPs pic is the launcher. It’s got multiple shrapnel holes, some golf ball sized. It was a total loss
>It was a total loss
If you could speak Ukrainian you'd know that they guy making the video is saying it's going back into service...
I don't think thats a radar. Isn't it just a TV/IR + range finder?
It's not a radar, it's electo-optical like I said. Why would you want a SHORAD system that can't work passively, you'd give away the position of the forces you're following and you're just begging for an anti-radiation missile.
You can datalink in a wider battlefield picture from third party radars if needed but realistically radars won't help you much because attack helicopters and jets will use terrain masking until the last few seconds - which is why Starstreak exists in the first place - you need to kill them before they can kill you, and you need to do it reliably when head on and dealing with flares and chaff.
Warriortard thread.
Remember when Warriortard made a thread about how the Spartan was shit and showed a picture of a destroyed Spartan but it turned out to be a very obvious ML-TB and then he tried to say 'no it's the one in front of it' and that too was an ML-TB and then he just abandoned the thread?
Remember when people posted Ukrainians with lots of kills with Starstreak and he started screeching that it was paid for by the UK because there is no way it can be destroying things?
yes, i do remember that thread. but no one posted the webm i lost of a starstreak shooting off a helicopter tail.
That was an igla. There’s another identical one shooting down a Turkish helicopter in Syria
Are you sure? there was no blast and it sliced right through it.
Yep identical to the video from Syria. Cutting helicopters in half isn’t a associated with starstreak
how does /k/ still fall for warriortard threads?
Britain can't stop losing. Are they only getting involved in this war to satisfy a humiliation fetish?