>How useful are horses in a societal collapse situation?
Horses are expensive, they require food even when you're not riding them, however, in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
>Mares are absolutely tight and are gentle, and unlike women won't betray you.
You'll never want to return to real women, if you do this taboo your bloodline will die.
That meat can sustain you for a while if you dry it.
>That meat can sustain you for a while if you dry it.
I hope you guys are never that hungry, hopefully the farms and ranches you're enslaved in will thrive.
>You'll never want to return to real women, if you do this taboo your bloodline will die.
Women are obsolete. We must engineer breedable mares, and then the world will know peace.
>How useful are horses in a societal collapse situation?
Horses are expensive, they require food even when you're not riding them, however, in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
>Mares are absolutely tight and are gentle, and unlike women won't betray you.
You'll never want to return to real women, if you do this taboo your bloodline will die.
[...] >That meat can sustain you for a while if you dry it.
I hope you guys are never that hungry, hopefully the farms and ranches you're enslaved in will thrive.
Extremely. Mares are absolutely tight and are gentle, and unlike women won't betray you.
You're not wrong, they taste good. That being said, in an apocalyptic scenario you don't want to eat one of your most helpful companions. You might have to worry about poachers stealing your horse to eat it.
>in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
why would people suddenly stop pumping oil?
A reliable well bred mare will be a whole lot more useful in a no gasoline situation than your dead chunk of metal with no gas. A lot prettier than modern cars, too.
>they require food
Actually for most of the year they don't require (much) food, just put out to pasture, but depending on the severity of your winter season you'll need to have a giant pile of hay ready for each horse. Without gasoline for combines and such, cutting and storing hay is a very labor intensive procedure. I think they'd be more popular in warmer climates
t. Family had horses
I intend to use horses to feed my own community by raiding the surrounding counties and eventually establishing my own as hegemon over them. As a native Appalachian, I will model my kingdom after the greatest of all hillbillies; the Kingdom of Macedon. I can then marry a crazy snake handling woman just like Phillip did and have a son with her. If everything goes right, she'll eventually murder me allowing my son to take over. He will then go on to reunite America under his rule.
You're welcome for ensuring your ancestors futures under a great and just ruler.
I have pasture for a horse to graze on, a barn to store hay and shelter the horse and some knowledge of the care and maintenance of a horse.
If you have the prerequisites horses are a great option to have if society collapses. Picrel is of my horse at the mountain lake that is 900 feet from my property in Appalachia. I would not use my horse to ride into town to get groceries but he would be useful in helping me drag deer out of the national forest that surrounds my property.
I think they would be very useful if you had the means to maintain them. The thing is, most people are morons and cannot even ride a horse. Besides the issue of feeding them as long as you have a way of reshoeing them, it should be relatively straight forward. Depending on what you use them for though, they will have to be very well trained to not freak out during end of the world type situations, gunfire, explosions, zombies, Black person hordes etc.
A breeding pair is worth it's weight in gold in a long term total collapse. In a partial or short to medium term breakdown I think bicycles are more practical
A reliable well bred mare will be a whole lot more useful in a no gasoline situation than your dead chunk of metal with no gas. A lot prettier than modern cars, too.
>they require food
Actually for most of the year they don't require (much) food, just put out to pasture, but depending on the severity of your winter season you'll need to have a giant pile of hay ready for each horse. Without gasoline for combines and such, cutting and storing hay is a very labor intensive procedure. I think they'd be more popular in warmer climates
t. Family had horses
You weren't using those horses for logistics hauling. Horses can self-sustain when left alone all day to do so, but if you're putting them to work, they have to be supplied with fodder because they don't have enough time left in the day to get the calories they need from grass.
Yeah, I mean only religious colonies really use horses as work animals in the current day. The horses we kept were ridden only occasionally.
They'd probably require more food if they were being used as work animals, but consider the use case of an individual or a family with one to a few horses - a few times a year where they'd be used a lot, and a few days every week where they'd be used a little. If you're working the land you don't have time to be traveling everywhere, and if you're not working the land it won't really be possible to have horses. I do not think you'd have to feed them all the time.
It depends. If it is just "societal collapse" as in the country's economy tanks, and we reach Chimpout level 11, then yes. Horses would be very useful. A horse can just eat grass. The main issue will be water, however YOU need water and finding a water source would be big on your to-do list. If you have a "home base" your horse can be trained to return home which has a lot of different applications. Horses may not be naturals at attacking enemies, or even at alerting their owners to danger. But they will try. If you train them well enough, you can get a 900-1200lb wall of meat that will help you out.
Now if there is a collapse involving a chemical, nuclear, or even biological issue...no. Horses would be a bad idea.
wood gasifiers were used during the last gas shortages but they work best if they're burning a consistent material so processing your wood into chips is required at the very least with pellets being far more energy efficient but harder to produce
>unironically bicycle jousting tournaments when
Move to Portland.
[...]
Fractional distillation of petroleum isn't practical on a cottage industry scale.
meant for
>in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
why would people suddenly stop pumping oil?
Shit. Bicycles made them obsolete for transportation. Oxen mog them in terms of being used as beasts of burden since they're not nearly as fricking stupid and prone to try and random kill you. Plus agricultural implements pulled by horses require an industrial society to produce.
They've basically always been shit except for that brief 30 year window that people associate with "traditional" agriculture. Even then they still were.
Only a cheese sniffing Dutchman could possibly hold such a moronic belief.
Texan actually. Horses are shit and attract shit people. That's why "horse properties" look like dumpsters 99% of the time and cow chads have clean properties used to make money rather than stroke a bestiality enthusiasts fetish.
[...]
Texan actually. Horses are shit and attract shit people. That's why "horse properties" look like dumpsters 99% of the time and cow chads have clean properties used to make money rather than stroke a bestiality enthusiasts fetish.
have some gravel mining roads up around a cabin I use
20-30 minutes on those roads in a capable vehicle is a good 2-3 hours on a bike, and that's a e-bike without even hauling a load as well
you better be fit as frick if you expect to bike around with a trailer full of shit all day
Shit unless you have a ton of infrastructure set up. A farrier and a vet (a well supplied vet, because most don't do horses) and enough land to produce fodder just for the horse. Modern horses are not hardy like ye olde horses, and left to their own devices, will find new and interesting ways to kill themselves. They are second only to sheep in capacity for self harm and lack of self preservation.
Horses are cow levels of intelligence with bones made of glass and just enough speed to snibbidy snab their own shit up.
You'd be a lot better off with an electric quad or something and some solar setup for charging. That would also cost you significantly less money both upfront and upkeep. You also won't have to dedicate countless hours into training to make sure something completely innocuous like a beach ball doesn't result in your horse killing you and then itself. I have personally seen a not normally skittish gelding run through an electric fence and scrape a huge gash through his flank on a wood fence because of an... Errant mylar balloon.
If you HAVE to have a pack animal for the apocalypse because you're a stupid masochist, get a really mutty donkey or mule. They are significantly less upkeep and much much hardier animals. Horses are, and I cannot emphasize this enough, awful creatures.
>t. grew up on a horse farm where we routinely had 100+ horses, everything from drafts to cutting
you also need a blacksmith for shoes and a farrier to chop their hooves down if you don't know how to do it yourself
poeple always underestimate how much time and effort goes into keeping animals, they think that their poosniffer diddler shitmutt is the same as having Working animals
>If you HAVE to have a pack animal for the apocalypse because you're a stupid masochist, get a really mutty donkey or mule.
Don't discount good boys. The Native Americans used dog travoises for millennia
Extremely. Mares are absolutely tight and are gentle, and unlike women won't betray you.
>How useful are horses in a societal collapse situation?
Horses are expensive, they require food even when you're not riding them, however, in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
>Mares are absolutely tight and are gentle, and unlike women won't betray you.
You'll never want to return to real women, if you do this taboo your bloodline will die.
>That meat can sustain you for a while if you dry it.
I hope you guys are never that hungry, hopefully the farms and ranches you're enslaved in will thrive.
>You'll never want to return to real women, if you do this taboo your bloodline will die.
Women are obsolete. We must engineer breedable mares, and then the world will know peace.
Black person you fricking what?
haha, newbie
Seethe more
Brohoof
Well that explains all the people who want to frick horses here
You should frick off to /mlp/
Horse meat is pretty good.
Here supermarkets used to just sell it as beef for cheap and it took years for anybody to notice.
Could buy old horses at live stock auction for $1 after ban on shipping horses to EU for meat went in to effect.
You're not wrong, they taste good. That being said, in an apocalyptic scenario you don't want to eat one of your most helpful companions. You might have to worry about poachers stealing your horse to eat it.
>in total societal collapse gasoline (also called petrol by the eurogays) will go bad and vehicles will be useless.
why would people suddenly stop pumping oil?
That's what woodgas generators are for.
That meat can sustain you for a while if you dry it.
A good buck will blow out a gay man's anus and fill his intestines
I intend to use horses to feed my own community by raiding the surrounding counties and eventually establishing my own as hegemon over them. As a native Appalachian, I will model my kingdom after the greatest of all hillbillies; the Kingdom of Macedon. I can then marry a crazy snake handling woman just like Phillip did and have a son with her. If everything goes right, she'll eventually murder me allowing my son to take over. He will then go on to reunite America under his rule.
You're welcome for ensuring your ancestors futures under a great and just ruler.
Just like burger King
>ywn have a wholesome snake-handling Pentecostal gf
why bother living?
I've got a dangerous snake for her to handle
She's a bit young, isn't she?
I have pasture for a horse to graze on, a barn to store hay and shelter the horse and some knowledge of the care and maintenance of a horse.
If you have the prerequisites horses are a great option to have if society collapses. Picrel is of my horse at the mountain lake that is 900 feet from my property in Appalachia. I would not use my horse to ride into town to get groceries but he would be useful in helping me drag deer out of the national forest that surrounds my property.
By God I miss Virginia
God Bless and God Speed you and yours
Thank you anon, likewise. Merry Christmas
You two ever smash?
It is a level so far above your infantile comments I am sure it is beyond your ability to understand or appreciate.
Do you mean that the sex is on that level?
Here I was telling him not to go off into the abyss and you arrive to sound like you already have.
Ah, it's true love then.
hes got a nice penis
I think they would be very useful if you had the means to maintain them. The thing is, most people are morons and cannot even ride a horse. Besides the issue of feeding them as long as you have a way of reshoeing them, it should be relatively straight forward. Depending on what you use them for though, they will have to be very well trained to not freak out during end of the world type situations, gunfire, explosions, zombies, Black person hordes etc.
A breeding pair is worth it's weight in gold in a long term total collapse. In a partial or short to medium term breakdown I think bicycles are more practical
A reliable well bred mare will be a whole lot more useful in a no gasoline situation than your dead chunk of metal with no gas. A lot prettier than modern cars, too.
any mare in our custody will be reliably well-bred in very short order, or we'll die trying
>they require food
Actually for most of the year they don't require (much) food, just put out to pasture, but depending on the severity of your winter season you'll need to have a giant pile of hay ready for each horse. Without gasoline for combines and such, cutting and storing hay is a very labor intensive procedure. I think they'd be more popular in warmer climates
t. Family had horses
You weren't using those horses for logistics hauling. Horses can self-sustain when left alone all day to do so, but if you're putting them to work, they have to be supplied with fodder because they don't have enough time left in the day to get the calories they need from grass.
Yeah, I mean only religious colonies really use horses as work animals in the current day. The horses we kept were ridden only occasionally.
They'd probably require more food if they were being used as work animals, but consider the use case of an individual or a family with one to a few horses - a few times a year where they'd be used a lot, and a few days every week where they'd be used a little. If you're working the land you don't have time to be traveling everywhere, and if you're not working the land it won't really be possible to have horses. I do not think you'd have to feed them all the time.
they are gr8
It depends. If it is just "societal collapse" as in the country's economy tanks, and we reach Chimpout level 11, then yes. Horses would be very useful. A horse can just eat grass. The main issue will be water, however YOU need water and finding a water source would be big on your to-do list. If you have a "home base" your horse can be trained to return home which has a lot of different applications. Horses may not be naturals at attacking enemies, or even at alerting their owners to danger. But they will try. If you train them well enough, you can get a 900-1200lb wall of meat that will help you out.
Now if there is a collapse involving a chemical, nuclear, or even biological issue...no. Horses would be a bad idea.
I trust in donkey more
What about mules?
They're cute, too, as are donks
Mules are better than Horses in some situations
Lot of pitbulls to deal with once society collapses. Donkeys will have a field day.
mule pussy is trash
Mules and donks you gotta go for the bussy. Randy little four legged butt bawds.
Cross-species hybrids are typically infertile which means mules are literally unbreedable.
america is really vast, if i were living in a denser area sure, but i really need an animal thats made for riding
you can ride the horse
you can frick the horse
you can eat the horse
pretty good i'de say, takes care of all your needs
You can also milk the horse and ferment her milk into a mildly alcoholic beverage. If horses had wool they'd be the perfect livestock.
t. Khergit
Get a bicycle instead
bicycles are better. unironically bicycle jousting tournaments when
>unironically bicycle jousting tournaments when
Move to Portland.
Fractional distillation of petroleum isn't practical on a cottage industry scale.
wood gasifiers were used during the last gas shortages but they work best if they're burning a consistent material so processing your wood into chips is required at the very least with pellets being far more energy efficient but harder to produce
how would society collapse? which society? has that ever happened?
>has that ever happened?
picrel
meant for
Too old not a donkey or a cow.
Shit. Bicycles made them obsolete for transportation. Oxen mog them in terms of being used as beasts of burden since they're not nearly as fricking stupid and prone to try and random kill you. Plus agricultural implements pulled by horses require an industrial society to produce.
They've basically always been shit except for that brief 30 year window that people associate with "traditional" agriculture. Even then they still were.
>Shit. Bicycles made them obsolete for transportation.
as long as you have at paths that are at least stone-paved.
Bikes do fine on dirt paths.
Texan actually. Horses are shit and attract shit people. That's why "horse properties" look like dumpsters 99% of the time and cow chads have clean properties used to make money rather than stroke a bestiality enthusiasts fetish.
I’ll frick the cows too! And the bulls!
>Bikes do fine on dirt paths.
Less efficient, especially if you're hauling some load. And terrible when it rains, which is common in some places.
have some gravel mining roads up around a cabin I use
20-30 minutes on those roads in a capable vehicle is a good 2-3 hours on a bike, and that's a e-bike without even hauling a load as well
you better be fit as frick if you expect to bike around with a trailer full of shit all day
Only a cheese sniffing Dutchman could possibly hold such a moronic belief.
Shit unless you have a ton of infrastructure set up. A farrier and a vet (a well supplied vet, because most don't do horses) and enough land to produce fodder just for the horse. Modern horses are not hardy like ye olde horses, and left to their own devices, will find new and interesting ways to kill themselves. They are second only to sheep in capacity for self harm and lack of self preservation.
Horses are cow levels of intelligence with bones made of glass and just enough speed to snibbidy snab their own shit up.
You'd be a lot better off with an electric quad or something and some solar setup for charging. That would also cost you significantly less money both upfront and upkeep. You also won't have to dedicate countless hours into training to make sure something completely innocuous like a beach ball doesn't result in your horse killing you and then itself. I have personally seen a not normally skittish gelding run through an electric fence and scrape a huge gash through his flank on a wood fence because of an... Errant mylar balloon.
If you HAVE to have a pack animal for the apocalypse because you're a stupid masochist, get a really mutty donkey or mule. They are significantly less upkeep and much much hardier animals. Horses are, and I cannot emphasize this enough, awful creatures.
>t. grew up on a horse farm where we routinely had 100+ horses, everything from drafts to cutting
you also need a blacksmith for shoes and a farrier to chop their hooves down if you don't know how to do it yourself
poeple always underestimate how much time and effort goes into keeping animals, they think that their poosniffer diddler shitmutt is the same as having Working animals
I would take the worst Chihuahua over a horse for the end of the world. At the very least it would alert you to dangers in the dark.
The only people that have horses now are insane horse girls that do it for pure sport, and the Amish who abuse the absolute shit out of them.
>and the Amish who abuse the absolute shit out of them.
sad
I prefer donkeys and mules, slower but more docile, eat everything, carry more, and they also guard your other animals
>If you HAVE to have a pack animal for the apocalypse because you're a stupid masochist, get a really mutty donkey or mule.
Don't discount good boys. The Native Americans used dog travoises for millennia
The Belgians were also fans.
Native Americans didn't have anything better for millenia
very, when roads fall into disuse you'll prefer horses over cars
Become sheepilled and live the sheep cart life.
They require almost no training and won’t kick you to death.
Much rather have pack goats and pack wheels.