Paddle mag release is better since you can use them with your index or middle finger without losing a firing grip. Plus they make b*tton versions of the VP9 for people like you who make a mountain out of a mole hill.
I didn't say they were faster, I said they were better for actual practical shooting and not dumb meme sports. Being able to keep your gun on target especially in a life-or-death situation is quite a nice thing even if it's marginally slower.
>reloading >keep your pistol on target though
Lol, I’m sure the spook with be terrified of your empty pistol and taking more time to reload is fine. Or do you think you’re going to be doing tactical reloads when there is actually a target to point at? How does this make sense?
Practical vs gamed. Comp guns will be heavy ass frick with a light ass spring and frick off huge comp with hair trigger and massive mag well to improve split times by milliseconds vs defensive where you want a good reliable pistol with a decent trigger that conceals okay
Comp guns don’t make good guns to have in your pants all day
I can use my middle finger to drop the mag on my beretta without breaking my grip, sounds like you just have small hands. I wear medium gloves so its not like i have massive hands either.
not really, no
ambi lever-style slide release means it’s quite thick in the holster, and the grip length is quite long, so it prints easily
that’s not to say it’s impossible to CC or anything, but it’s a full size gun and carries like one
Not really. It's quite big and you're kind of limited with holsters, especially if you want to throw a light or an optic on it. I carry it when I'm wearing a jacket, but that's about it. It's a great shooter, but there's better options to carry. I have my eyes on the mid-size 509 for the warmer months.
You can conceal nearly any handgun with a bit of effort. The problem with larger handguns is that it's usually more effort than one would be willing to put forth on a daily basis.
If you think you're special because your gun has a paddle release you're moronic. All you have is a handgun with a different button for releasing a mag. There's nothing else.
>Instagram hypebeasts and USPSA needs are representative of all Glock owners
When will this meme die? The only two things on my Glock that aren't stock is the TLR-9 and RMR.
>Instagram hypebeasts and USPSA needs are representative of all Glock owners
When will this meme die? The only two things on my Glock that aren't stock is the TLR-9 and RMR.
>Glocks are great, changing out their parts is a meme >I still had to upgrade two parts on my Glock
Lol.
Explain why you believe Paddle release to be inferior to Button release.
The basic concept of Leverage automatically makes the Paddle better, but I'd like to hear your reasoning other than "hurrrrrr its what i'm used to". Familiarity is good, but being familiar with a sub-par process isn't good for anyone
>Explain why you believe Paddle release to be inferior to Button release.
not that anon, but I'll take a swing
Paddle release: a fine motor skill
Button release: gross motor skill (grug push!)
Under high stress, fine motor skills go to shit.
I'm not OP and I don't give a frick about the lever (even though it is objectively slower and shittier if you have long fingers). I'm talking about the moronic cuck stamp they put on their frames for no reason.
why the frick they insist on putting stupid warnings like this on gun body? It's enough to get it on paper box for drugs and no one feels the need to scribe on every pill and blister.
I cucked myself by getting a USP as my first handgun, which was my only handgun for years. Hitting the release with my index finger is what feels natural, and button releases are what feels awkward and wrong to me.
The first handgun I was familiarized with was the USP and only noticed every other gun had buttons instead of levers when I finally tried a different handgun. Yeah push buttons are easier to press but my main problem is sometimes it's too easy, there's just too many cases of accidental magazine drops in high stress situations with push button releases
>be dumb enough to carry button release >draw in a gunfight >dump your mag as soon as you complete grip >get shot and die >morons online say its a training issue
lmao do buttonlets really?
Once again you're not special if you own a gun with a paddle mag release. If anything constantly saying how much better you are makes you look like a hipster and an butthole.
I have baby hands so a paddle mag release is better for me since I need to twist most guns to push a button release with my thumb or middle finger. >tfw head is a size xl for helmets but my hands are a size small for gloves
I’m 6‘8“ with appropriately sized hands and the paddle release is a pain in the ass to use. The button release however is based. I don’t even have to break grip
That's exactly why I don't personally like paddle mag releases. I'm breaking my grip and I don't feel comfortable using my index finger or middle finger.
It's not that much more expensive than a Glock in my area but it comes with essentially a few hundred dollars worth of upgrades over the glock from the factory. So yes.
Paddle is superior.
Cannot be accidentally pressed in a soft holster.
Naturally ambidextrous.
Paddle has some advantages over button.
Button has no advantages over paddle.
Paddle is superior.
S&W EZ/equalizer pistols with their gay ass grip safeties in a nutshell. I don't really benefit much from the easy to operate shit considering I'm not a sickly orphan, but if they removed the grip safety it'd be a great option for women/the elderly
How are you trying to hold or shoot the pistol that the grip safety won’t be disengaged? You literally just grab the pistol with whatever grip you want and the grip safety is disengaged.
Push button (Hugo Borchardt, Georg Luger) vs heel release (J.M. Browning). Browning switched to the Euro style push button during the US pistol trials that would result in the M1911.
Any reputable manufacturer with LE/mil contracts makes guns specifically for those contracts that are subject to far better quality of materials and QC processes and thus they all "hate" civilians too. Enjoy your Kel-Tec.
If you have difficulty with either buttons or switches, you are a moron or like probably have arthritis.
It's just a minor change in direction, get your life together and stop fussing.
ok
Paddle mag release is better since you can use them with your index or middle finger without losing a firing grip. Plus they make b*tton versions of the VP9 for people like you who make a mountain out of a mole hill.
if paddle release was faster, you'd see raceguns use paddle releases. you cannot argue with the intense metagaming of uspsa
I didn't say they were faster, I said they were better for actual practical shooting and not dumb meme sports. Being able to keep your gun on target especially in a life-or-death situation is quite a nice thing even if it's marginally slower.
You won't be keeping your gun on target and reloading in life or death, either way, so your point is moot.
Statistically speaking
>reloading
>keep your pistol on target though
Lol, I’m sure the spook with be terrified of your empty pistol and taking more time to reload is fine. Or do you think you’re going to be doing tactical reloads when there is actually a target to point at? How does this make sense?
what is the difference between competitive shooting and defensive shooting?
Practical vs gamed. Comp guns will be heavy ass frick with a light ass spring and frick off huge comp with hair trigger and massive mag well to improve split times by milliseconds vs defensive where you want a good reliable pistol with a decent trigger that conceals okay
Comp guns don’t make good guns to have in your pants all day
>better for actual practical shooting
>most pistols don't have paddles
>better
Fricking HKtards
>faster
Fortunately this is not the only metric on Earth. By this same logic, rifles are superior to pistols.
>By this same logic, rifles are superior to pistols.
What is it you don't understand about irony?
Poe’s law my friend
I can use my middle finger to drop the mag on my beretta without breaking my grip, sounds like you just have small hands. I wear medium gloves so its not like i have massive hands either.
You're wrong. But they make the B model for morons like you.
The B stands for bozo. It's the bozo version. For bozos like OP.
*boss
ftfy
frick he got me bros
I do love the paddle release though. It's very comfy and easy to use
Different anon here, but is the vp9 a good conceal carry? I'm a weirdo who doesn't like glock
Glocks are the gold standard. Learn to love them and stop being a little b***h
not really, no
ambi lever-style slide release means it’s quite thick in the holster, and the grip length is quite long, so it prints easily
that’s not to say it’s impossible to CC or anything, but it’s a full size gun and carries like one
The regular VP9 is a full size so no. But there is the SK compact model and HK has a sub compact coming out soon. Those are better options for CCW.
Not really. It's quite big and you're kind of limited with holsters, especially if you want to throw a light or an optic on it. I carry it when I'm wearing a jacket, but that's about it. It's a great shooter, but there's better options to carry. I have my eyes on the mid-size 509 for the warmer months.
It’s a full size pistol so if you can CC those it’s a great handgun. It’s deff not what people could call easy to conceal
You can conceal nearly any handgun with a bit of effort. The problem with larger handguns is that it's usually more effort than one would be willing to put forth on a daily basis.
that looks cursed as frick
>cursed
frfr no cap, paddles are the only bussin choice on god
>my fingers are too fat to use a paddle release
Im a fat guy and can use the paddle mag release on my USPs and P30L just fine.
If you think you're special because your gun has a paddle release you're moronic. All you have is a handgun with a different button for releasing a mag. There's nothing else.
ok
what? lever is objectively superior to button. What kind of zoomer-shit on you on? I wish Glock would release a 19 and 17 with lever release
That would require Glock to actually update their product.
No need to since Glocksuckers do that themselves as Glocks are only bought to have half their parts replaced by aftermarket
>Instagram hypebeasts and USPSA needs are representative of all Glock owners
When will this meme die? The only two things on my Glock that aren't stock is the TLR-9 and RMR.
>only half
>Glocks are great, changing out their parts is a meme
>I still had to upgrade two parts on my Glock
Lol.
Noguns detected.
So you are against WML and optics on your firearms? Hope you didn't buy more magazines than your gun came with bro cut that's an upgrade.
Walther dropped theirs from the PDP, and HK makes button release as well, so why do you still have sand in your vegana?
because in my country there’s only the gay paddle version
Better angle
Explain why you believe Paddle release to be inferior to Button release.
The basic concept of Leverage automatically makes the Paddle better, but I'd like to hear your reasoning other than "hurrrrrr its what i'm used to". Familiarity is good, but being familiar with a sub-par process isn't good for anyone
>Explain why you believe Paddle release to be inferior to Button release.
not that anon, but I'll take a swing
Paddle release: a fine motor skill
Button release: gross motor skill (grug push!)
Under high stress, fine motor skills go to shit.
You're actually moronic
>aiming is a fine motor skill
>pressing the trigger is a fine motor skill
>inserting a box into a box is a fine motor skill
James, is that you talking from beyond the grave?
I'm not OP and I don't give a frick about the lever (even though it is objectively slower and shittier if you have long fingers). I'm talking about the moronic cuck stamp they put on their frames for no reason.
No one gives a frick about what you have to say. Stop posting your crybaby shit and frick off.
why the frick they insist on putting stupid warnings like this on gun body? It's enough to get it on paper box for drugs and no one feels the need to scribe on every pill and blister.
Its required in some places.
No it isn't Walther imports their guns from Germany too and they don't have cuck stamps anywhere on their guns.
I don't really care where the release is honestly. It's such a small change I literally don't even care.
not only is paddle release superior, but there is a button release version available. VP9 chads reign supreme.
get bent
>HK
>great
Lmao, years of goyslop has left its mark.
paddlegays and buttongays btfo
Ew, what the frick is that?
Unironically why Germany lost 2 world wars.
>
its peepee
I cucked myself by getting a USP as my first handgun, which was my only handgun for years. Hitting the release with my index finger is what feels natural, and button releases are what feels awkward and wrong to me.
wtf does "cucked" mean to you
The first handgun I was familiarized with was the USP and only noticed every other gun had buttons instead of levers when I finally tried a different handgun. Yeah push buttons are easier to press but my main problem is sometimes it's too easy, there's just too many cases of accidental magazine drops in high stress situations with push button releases
american style release sucks ass
>American style
What is the "American style" release? Does your moronic ass mean the push button mag release, invented in Germany?
>be dumb enough to carry button release
>draw in a gunfight
>dump your mag as soon as you complete grip
>get shot and die
>morons online say its a training issue
lmao do buttonlets really?
>carry gun with button magazine release
>never hit the button because I'm not a mongoloid
wow it's fricking nothing
>never hit the button because I've never been in a gunfight
ngmi gay.
cry about it more subhuman, button mag release is the only mag release for the Aryan man.
>Aryan man
>is actually a live at home zoomie who doesnt own a single luger
lol lmao
How the frick do you accidentally hit the mag release? Paddles are much easier to accidentally hit and take a lot less force to operate.
>99.9% of pistols used in gun fights have button mag releases
>nobody ever accidentally drops their mag
What are you even talking about?
It’s just an idiot who almost certainly has owned neither, and has never felt the stiffness of a button release.
Once again you're not special if you own a gun with a paddle mag release. If anything constantly saying how much better you are makes you look like a hipster and an butthole.
Did you even read the OP?
I have baby hands so a paddle mag release is better for me since I need to twist most guns to push a button release with my thumb or middle finger.
>tfw head is a size xl for helmets but my hands are a size small for gloves
I know that feel bro
I’m 6‘8“ with appropriately sized hands and the paddle release is a pain in the ass to use. The button release however is based. I don’t even have to break grip
>6'8"
Black person out here CCing a fricking MPX
That's exactly why I don't personally like paddle mag releases. I'm breaking my grip and I don't feel comfortable using my index finger or middle finger.
Quick question:
Is the vp9 worth the 200€ premium over a Glock?
It's not that much more expensive than a Glock in my area but it comes with essentially a few hundred dollars worth of upgrades over the glock from the factory. So yes.
>handguns for moronic hipsters have paddle releases
>hurr paddle release numbah one!
This is your mindset paddletards
Paddle is superior.
Cannot be accidentally pressed in a soft holster.
Naturally ambidextrous.
Paddle has some advantages over button.
Button has no advantages over paddle.
Paddle is superior.
>soft holster
S&W EZ/equalizer pistols with their gay ass grip safeties in a nutshell. I don't really benefit much from the easy to operate shit considering I'm not a sickly orphan, but if they removed the grip safety it'd be a great option for women/the elderly
How are you trying to hold or shoot the pistol that the grip safety won’t be disengaged? You literally just grab the pistol with whatever grip you want and the grip safety is disengaged.
Not him, but grip safeties feel like shit in the hand.
buttoncels seething over paddlechads
Test
>OP is too moronic for paddles
Objectively better than buttons
SigSauer is better
paddle and heel mag releases on guns is pretty nice option IMO
i think the micro 9s like the czp10m should have used a heel release instead of the thumb mag release
why the frick are you morons arguing it barely matters
I'm used to button release but I can do paddle release because it doesn't matter at all
What did Browning mean by this?
?
Push button (Hugo Borchardt, Georg Luger) vs heel release (J.M. Browning). Browning switched to the Euro style push button during the US pistol trials that would result in the M1911.
reminder to boycott HK and any other manufacturers that hate us civilians, such as FN
Any reputable manufacturer with LE/mil contracts makes guns specifically for those contracts that are subject to far better quality of materials and QC processes and thus they all "hate" civilians too. Enjoy your Kel-Tec.
Skill issue
If you have difficulty with either buttons or switches, you are a moron or like probably have arthritis.
It's just a minor change in direction, get your life together and stop fussing.