How to make bullets from scratch? You have nothing except copper tube from a plumbing store.
How to make bullets from scratch? You have nothing except copper tube from a plumbing store.
How to make bullets from scratch? You have nothing except copper tube from a plumbing store.
you'll need a set of swedging dies and a press, and stuff for casting lead.
or you could cast lead directly.
What about the blasting cap things?
Make primers from fulminated mercury out of those toy snappers.
prime all.
https://22lrreloader.com/products/prime-all-2-0-centerfire
Yeah I mean the whole cartridge
>Yeah I mean the whole cartridge
You don't you fricking moron. Modern complete cartridges require serious industry for everything but the bullets. Nobody makes brass, primers, or smokeless. In fact only a handful of factories in the world make smokeless, there's like, what, 3 or 4 now in all of the US? One of which is fully devoted to military production.
Advancement and ever cheaper 3D printing and CNC/laser cut might make a steel-base poly case doable in theory for someone well off at home, but that still doesn't solve the chemical side at all.
Basically you'd have to give up on fully modern guns. You could go back to the 1800s, BP is doable, and then mix in some modern advancements that can be feasibly applied.
You are ignorant.
You can buy a swaging press for as low as $500 online. There are two brothers from Oregon who both have their own company that sell everything you need to construct cartridges and they will teach you how to do it.
Name?
its fairly easy to convert common casings to more obscure ones though, and most reloading die sets come with all you need
for example i make 7.7 jap casings from 30-06 casing and save as much as a dollar per cartridge in doing it
Corbin sells swaging presses and dies that make jackets from copper tube. They also have a setup that makes .223 jackets from spent .22LR brass.
Smokeless is really the only bottleneck. People do make brass, easiest way is to turn it on a lathe but it's also possible to swage it. It's also common to make brass for one caliber by modifying that from some pre-existing cartridge. Two good books on this topic are The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions by Donnelly and Designing and Forming Custom Cartridges by Howell.
Making primers isn't too difficult, especially if you don't care about them being non-corrosive. Plenty of people have made them using match heads or cap powder (armstrong's mix). It's also easy to find the early commercial formulas. The Gun and Its Development by W. W. Greener gives several formulas for primers and also describes the various steps by which the anvils and cups were made.
But yeah, modern smokeless is right out. You might have some luck with some of the earlier semi-smokeless powders, the Greener book describes a large number of them well enough to replicate them if you experimented a bit, but some were also inconsistent to the point of being dangerous.
>bullets
easy
>cartridges
no so easy
Worked well enough for more than a century
Sealed cylinders are bullets x6 that can be stored forever also (if air tight)
Reportedly primer is a real b***h to figure out. If you're doing cartridges.
Is that the new XM1156 caseless ammo I heard about for the Sig Sour M7A1?
has anyone tried making cordite or other sorts of early smokeless/"brown" powders
i'd try it myself if it werent for the fact that its so much easier to blow up a gun with incorrect load data on smokeless compared to black powder
Yes, some people have tried. Even a couple from this very board. The process sucks. Hard. Short version: Nobody willingly fricks around with nitric acid or nitroglycerine for long, and it's hard to get cellulose clean enough for remotely consistent loads without a bunch of fricking horrible chemicals. Tacking nitrogen groups onto other things, in predictable proportions, and then keeping them there until you >want< them to leave is generally an exciting and difficult process.
Spent a while looking into it and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the risk to my garage, let alone a gun and/or my face. More power to you if you try, though, it's kind of a holy Grail to find a less shitty process.
yea, to be honest i wouldnt trust homemade smokeless unless it shot bullets around the same speed as black powder (with the only benefit being that theres no major fouling)
Iirc there was a holdout of people using a powder made out of nitrated sawdust for shotguns when modern powders started taking over, not sure about the details but was talked about in one of the gsg/diy/3dpg threads on here.
Concentrated or fuming nitric acid is the type of thing you cannot buy in large quantities without ending up on a list. Typically to do anything in serious batches you need to distill it, which is a nightmare and extremely dangerous (boiling hot acid).
At some point you need to draw a baseline. For example:
>I want to make ammunition from components that don't require an ID check
Not too bad. The "Butwhatabout" project covers this.
>I want to make ammunition from raw material and base chemicals
Difficult.
>I want to make ammunition from stuff I dug out of the ground
Extremely difficult.
The most fun part about working with fuming nitric is, if you spill it on (say) a workbench or a shirt, it will convert slowly into an explosive. Which will then progressively destabilize when exposed to dangerous environments like "reflected sunlight" and "any level of humidity".