honestly? Not the least practical thing you can do. Properly treated cloths will keep the rain off well, it doesn't have some of the problems a coat has with when it comes to interacting with equipment, and it helps break up the human silhouette quite effectively.
Unlike most capeshit settings where increased strength and durability are basically default superpowers given to every major character in addition to their gimmick powers, supers of the Incredibles universe have physique of ordinary humans. They canonically die from dropping a few meters down, failing to dodge an unlucky swing from a random thug, and so on.
That's the reason Mr Incredible was considered one of the most powerful superheroes, despite having the blandest powerset one can imagine. Being able to not die to a bullet to the back of your head from an unnoticed assailant in a great way to ensure a long career of superheroing.
>Plash-palatka (literally "cape-tent") was a shelter-half used as both a part of a larger tent cover or an individual weatherproof cape
https://redarmy.fandom.com/wiki/Plash-palatka
But anon, a Poncho is a piece of waterproof cloth with a hole for your head and a hood attached. What he is wearing is clearly a cape, as it wraps around his shoulders and is joined by what appears to be a drawstring in the front.
Most soldiers had some form of cape available in ww2. As protection against wind but most of all as rain protection. USA issued both a cape/poncho and a tenterhalf, Russia a cape/tenterhalf, UK a ground sheet and a rain cover, Germany a poncho/tenterhalf. The Russian was the most adaptable, the German the only one with a camo pattern. All forces issued different equipment for their snipers, proving that the cape was not optimal for the field alone.
Hah, you are right. In my first language we have something called a linguistic flower; some term or word is twisted wrong once, and we keep on using it because it sounds right. The better, and more correct, term is of course shelter half. Shelterhalf, tenterhalf, lets sleep in sixtynine tonight.... good old army speak.
That said, shelter halfs are some times shelter quarters. Or worse.
Poncho: >Extremly cheap to make >Incredibly versatile thanks to the simple form. Thats why most olden mil ponchos were constructed as part of a tent >Can conceal the human shape very well. Especially when combined with camo prints >Retains body heat and protects against wind and rain
The reason it is called cloak and dagger is because a very thick kind of cloth or leather could be used as protection for blades. So you could have a cape of some sort to protect you while you stab the other guy to death with a modicum of defense yourself..
Well, I've never seen combat but I wear a cape to the movie theater to attract the opposite (female) gender. It's a very nice material, synthetic rayon I think. So far my advances have been fruitless, I mostly blame it on those times my prostitute of a mother failed to iron it the night before.
You should have something like this that's non-IR reflective if possible. It can have a lot of uses. How you don it is up to you but the core concept is very versatile.
Enemy at the Gates is unironically a terrible movie. The only reason it gets remembered is because up until that point it was literally the only Hollywood movie set in the Eastern Front.
I'm pretty sure Enemy At The Gates singlehandedly ruined East vs West relations forever. It tainted the US's understanding of the Russian perspective of WW2 because it just boiled down the intense material shortages and lack of value of life to "lol 1 gun 2 men, maxim gun shoot u if u retreat" and US audiences took it literally. Russians watched it and assumed Americans would never be able to understand the Soviet perspective of the war.
I never saw Stalingrad, but Russia recently did do a pretty decent WW2 film recently, called Fortress of War. It's about the siege of Brest Fortress though, not Stalingrad.
The best Ostfront film is obviously "Come & See" though. Nothing else captures the misery and lack of respect for life as well as that film.
They did kill retreating men, but they didn't literally have machinegun units lined up behind their lines ready to gun down their men.
They had NKVD units that would patrol the rear and catch men trying to desert, where they would be given a "speedy" trial and sometimes executed on the spot. But they didn't literally gun down their men in droves like the movie portrays, that's just hollywood bullshit. I understand it's hard to show the nuances of desertion in a popcorn action ww2 film trying to be under a 2 hour runtime, but they dumbed it down to an insulting degree.
Yes they did.
That was their line, and they were forcing a push, the ones retreating back to the line were killed.
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No, they didn't. They did not literally have Maxim machineguns lined up behind their men gunning down the ones who fell back.
What they did have was a lot of executions of officers who ordered retreats that weren't approved by Stavka, and shooting of men who were caught fleeing their posts without their firearms. Basically, you never wanted to be caught by a Commissar without your weapon because it'd be assumed you dropped it to run away.
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Vatnik shill is mad.
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>vAtNiK sHilL iS mAd
yes anon Enemy at the Gates is a historically accurate movie. anything else is vatnik propaganda, that's what you believe, right?
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>yes anon Enemy at the Gates is a historically accurate movie
Stuffed with straw
Yep, I'm saying from that point on, the cultural wedge had been made. WW2 is the backbone of the Russian "national myth" and when the Russians saw Hollywood treat it with such disrespect (even though the movie actually touched on some grains of truth, even if the portrayal was exaggerated) they assumed America would never understand them. Americans watched the movie and took it at face value and assumed the Eastern Front was boring because it's just Russians shooting each other in the back.
American audiences would most likely have misunderstood the eastern front as low intensity because the movie is all snipers after the first part, because no movie about how immense the tank battles were has been made yet.
The whole poncho shelter has always been cool, but a tarp is superior due to being able to set it up while still wearing the poncho and keeping you and your gear dry, still being able to use it while after your tarp shelter is set up.
Depends on what the battlefield is. If you're in a frozen ass environment, a cape is fine. If your military is in a trench war situation, a cape is fine to take in debris/dust/etc. If you're going to a formal event, yes.
Circumstantial. If you're trying to lay low then a cape breaks up your outline. You can also easily fold one up and stuff it in a pack like a poncho when you don't need it or use one as a blanket.
But outside of that a cape just gets caught up on stuff.
>keep you warm >Helps with stealth if they have camo or earth tones and breaks up your silhouette >Counsel you arsenal >Look sick as hell
There pretty keno actually
honestly? Not the least practical thing you can do. Properly treated cloths will keep the rain off well, it doesn't have some of the problems a coat has with when it comes to interacting with equipment, and it helps break up the human silhouette quite effectively.
NO CAPES!
Imagine being a superhero and being so weak that when someone or something yanks on your cape it doesn't just tear off.
I always assumed that Edna made the capes too strong and they don't tear. Maybe she should've added some feature that detaches in a bad situation.
>Some feature
maybe just don't make them super-strong.
Unlike most capeshit settings where increased strength and durability are basically default superpowers given to every major character in addition to their gimmick powers, supers of the Incredibles universe have physique of ordinary humans. They canonically die from dropping a few meters down, failing to dodge an unlucky swing from a random thug, and so on.
That's the reason Mr Incredible was considered one of the most powerful superheroes, despite having the blandest powerset one can imagine. Being able to not die to a bullet to the back of your head from an unnoticed assailant in a great way to ensure a long career of superheroing.
My problem is when people generalize it to other settings.
The idea is that it's warm and covers you. But you can just shrug it off and fight unimpeded.
Pretty practical since Vasilly was basically Soviet Propaganda capeshit
It's called a poncho, dumbass, and we wore them all the time when it rained.
>Plash-palatka (literally "cape-tent") was a shelter-half used as both a part of a larger tent cover or an individual weatherproof cape
https://redarmy.fandom.com/wiki/Plash-palatka
They're tiny and shit.
Whatever 80 year old soviet waterproofing chemical they put on it I'm sure gave me lung cancer.
>https://redarmy.fandom.com/wiki/Plash-palatka
But anon, a Poncho is a piece of waterproof cloth with a hole for your head and a hood attached. What he is wearing is clearly a cape, as it wraps around his shoulders and is joined by what appears to be a drawstring in the front.
Capes don't wrap around, cloaks do
Joo call for me ese? I brought some frens, I hope das OK.
So glad I ran into all of you at the Lowes parking lot because we're gonna need this deck up by the end of the day.
>we
larp elsewhere, underaged poster
It's actually becoming a thing. Thermal capes and hoods. Thermal cloaks.
Most soldiers had some form of cape available in ww2. As protection against wind but most of all as rain protection. USA issued both a cape/poncho and a tenterhalf, Russia a cape/tenterhalf, UK a ground sheet and a rain cover, Germany a poncho/tenterhalf. The Russian was the most adaptable, the German the only one with a camo pattern. All forces issued different equipment for their snipers, proving that the cape was not optimal for the field alone.
Some of this is post ww2 but what the hell.
For me, it's the Dutch.
Canadian gives me high fashion vampire vibes
Polish and Czech look somehow stylish
>Russian are brown paper bags.
Can't unsee it.
the polish were wearing hobbit capes
>tenterhalf
that's not a word
you're not a real woman
Hah, you are right. In my first language we have something called a linguistic flower; some term or word is twisted wrong once, and we keep on using it because it sounds right. The better, and more correct, term is of course shelter half. Shelterhalf, tenterhalf, lets sleep in sixtynine tonight.... good old army speak.
That said, shelter halfs are some times shelter quarters. Or worse.
Poncho:
>Extremly cheap to make
>Incredibly versatile thanks to the simple form. Thats why most olden mil ponchos were constructed as part of a tent
>Can conceal the human shape very well. Especially when combined with camo prints
>Retains body heat and protects against wind and rain
The reason it is called cloak and dagger is because a very thick kind of cloth or leather could be used as protection for blades. So you could have a cape of some sort to protect you while you stab the other guy to death with a modicum of defense yourself..
I just like capes. Is that so wrong?
me too anon
Well, I've never seen combat but I wear a cape to the movie theater to attract the opposite (female) gender. It's a very nice material, synthetic rayon I think. So far my advances have been fruitless, I mostly blame it on those times my prostitute of a mother failed to iron it the night before.
based, just hit her next time she doesn't do it.
You should have something like this that's non-IR reflective if possible. It can have a lot of uses. How you don it is up to you but the core concept is very versatile.
What movie?
Damn youngin. Enemy at the gates
>captcha: GYASS2
Cheers gramps, i'm nothing but a humble tourist.
This movie inspired many mosin buyers during the surp golden years
they do keep you dry however when you are on the move they snag on literally everything
get yourself a quality weatherproof jacket and pants
bump
Cloak is oper8or tier.
Cape is shit.
Enemy at the Gates is unironically a terrible movie. The only reason it gets remembered is because up until that point it was literally the only Hollywood movie set in the Eastern Front.
There's good pieces, but overall shit.
Ron Perlman is great, what's his name as the German sniper is good.
I'm pretty sure Enemy At The Gates singlehandedly ruined East vs West relations forever. It tainted the US's understanding of the Russian perspective of WW2 because it just boiled down the intense material shortages and lack of value of life to "lol 1 gun 2 men, maxim gun shoot u if u retreat" and US audiences took it literally. Russians watched it and assumed Americans would never be able to understand the Soviet perspective of the war.
It was far more realistic than russia's Stalingrad.
I never saw Stalingrad, but Russia recently did do a pretty decent WW2 film recently, called Fortress of War. It's about the siege of Brest Fortress though, not Stalingrad.
The best Ostfront film is obviously "Come & See" though. Nothing else captures the misery and lack of respect for life as well as that film.
Russians did kill retreating men.
Fricking vatniks.
They did kill retreating men, but they didn't literally have machinegun units lined up behind their lines ready to gun down their men.
They had NKVD units that would patrol the rear and catch men trying to desert, where they would be given a "speedy" trial and sometimes executed on the spot. But they didn't literally gun down their men in droves like the movie portrays, that's just hollywood bullshit. I understand it's hard to show the nuances of desertion in a popcorn action ww2 film trying to be under a 2 hour runtime, but they dumbed it down to an insulting degree.
Yes they did.
That was their line, and they were forcing a push, the ones retreating back to the line were killed.
No, they didn't. They did not literally have Maxim machineguns lined up behind their men gunning down the ones who fell back.
What they did have was a lot of executions of officers who ordered retreats that weren't approved by Stavka, and shooting of men who were caught fleeing their posts without their firearms. Basically, you never wanted to be caught by a Commissar without your weapon because it'd be assumed you dropped it to run away.
Vatnik shill is mad.
>vAtNiK sHilL iS mAd
yes anon Enemy at the Gates is a historically accurate movie. anything else is vatnik propaganda, that's what you believe, right?
>yes anon Enemy at the Gates is a historically accurate movie
Stuffed with straw
Ah yes, the year US/Russian relations went south...2001
Yep, I'm saying from that point on, the cultural wedge had been made. WW2 is the backbone of the Russian "national myth" and when the Russians saw Hollywood treat it with such disrespect (even though the movie actually touched on some grains of truth, even if the portrayal was exaggerated) they assumed America would never understand them. Americans watched the movie and took it at face value and assumed the Eastern Front was boring because it's just Russians shooting each other in the back.
American audiences would most likely have misunderstood the eastern front as low intensity because the movie is all snipers after the first part, because no movie about how immense the tank battles were has been made yet.
I remember it because Konig was a badass and Rachel Weisz was fricking hot.
Tell me your a gay with out saying "I'm a gay"
>thinks a rain tarp is a CAPE
The whole poncho shelter has always been cool, but a tarp is superior due to being able to set it up while still wearing the poncho and keeping you and your gear dry, still being able to use it while after your tarp shelter is set up.
Only if you are the caped crusader.
Pretty effective against flir if it's wool
Ask the Afghanis
not a cape or cloak enjoyer
>How practical
Doesn't matter, they look cool which is all that matters now that everyone is running thermals anyway.
>thermals
thermal dummy here, is there like a special material that works better than others?
Clothes that trap heat well, so winter clothing, if the heat is trapped inside it's not as obvious against background temperatures on a FLIR etc.
makes sense, thanks
Capes are moronic, cloaks on the other hand are cool and provide great insulation. Highly recommended
Very practical since it allows you to watch youtube vids during the night without giving away your position.
That's a very cute boy.
Hypospray
What like a poncho or a rain slicker? Yeah you can fight just fine in that.
Depends on what the battlefield is. If you're in a frozen ass environment, a cape is fine. If your military is in a trench war situation, a cape is fine to take in debris/dust/etc. If you're going to a formal event, yes.
Circumstantial. If you're trying to lay low then a cape breaks up your outline. You can also easily fold one up and stuff it in a pack like a poncho when you don't need it or use one as a blanket.
But outside of that a cape just gets caught up on stuff.
>keep you warm
>Helps with stealth if they have camo or earth tones and breaks up your silhouette
>Counsel you arsenal
>Look sick as hell
There pretty keno actually
Capes and ponchos are terrible for concealment when it is windy, and wearing gear over them is a b***h. Goretex jackets and pants is where it is at.