How much more materiel does Russia need to lose in Ukraine for the Russian Army to be effectively neutered? They've already lost a lot of their tanks and are close to being out of smart munitions
How much more materiel does Russia need to lose in Ukraine for the Russian Army to be effectively neutered?
All of them
this. they know they lost. So now they act purely out of spite targeting grain storages, shopping malls, maternity hospitals, civilian buildings. They simply want to kill as many ukranians as possible especially young women and children to reduce Ukraine population. There was the case in kiev region. When Russians kept gang raping 12 - 18 y.o. girls and said they would frick them hard so they wouldn't want to make ukranian children anymore, 9 of them got pregnant
Seeing as they're literally rescuing T-62s from scrapyards and Su-27s from museums, it's already been neutered. What you're seeing now is the agonal breathing from the Russian Army.
>When Russians kept gang raping 12 - 18 y.o. girls
Since they were from the 64th Motor Rifle Brigade, hopefully all of them got sent straight to Hell within a month, courtesy of American-supplied M777s and Javelins. Honestly hope the Ukrainians massacre every last one of those slant-eyed vermin and that we eventually get in on the action too. I would gladly risk nuclear war just to see arrogant little wienereyed Russians be effortlessly slaughtered en masse by American air power.
>and said they would frick them hard so they wouldn't want to make ukranian children anymore, 9 of them got pregnant
One of the only instances where I'm 100% in favor of abortions tbh. That and deformed/defective kids. Hope the doctors flushed every last one of those degenerate spawn out the womb and down the drain.
If they keep wasting missiles on non-tactical targets, it's only gonna get worse for them.
yeah, they'll have to build more
It's just too bad a fair number of the manufacturing plants used in the production of their modern long range missiles have been going through a string of unfortunate smoking related accidents in the past few months
Using parts from Russia? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
A lot
They lost about 1.5k tanks, but their pre invasion active + operational reserve was 4.5k. On top of that further thousands of questionable quality in strategic reserve.
The most interesting question is regarding their artillery shells.
They inherited millions of them from SU, but:
Chechnya 1
Chechnya 2
Georgia
Syria
2014-2022 war with Ukraine
and on top of that they were peddling a lot of their soviet stock to third world shitholes
Their current rate of fire might very well be unsustainable, since they're already begging belarus and iran for shells
Also, they lost like 6 ammo depots in the last week. Some looked pretty huge.
>They lost about 1.5k tanks
Frankly I don't think this. Ukraine might not have pushed that much but if Russia keeps trying to hold the line despite all those tanks and shit, I'm becoming skeptical that there isn't a lot of wrecks behind the frontline at this point. We just don't get to see them because of course they won't photograph that shit.
Russia will just Lic advanced weapons tech to China and get unlimited shipped right across the border on big RR trains.
>Russia will just Lic advanced weapons tech to China
isn't China more advanced than russia by now?
It is, but China still lacks a lot of technology the USSR had ready access too. They build better electronics, but their engines (both diesel and turbine) and their avionics and hidraulics are supposedly inferior.
China had to source knowhow from Ukraine for their airforce because Russia previously refused to reveal their secrets (that they probably have forgotten).
>t China still lacks a lot of technology the USSR had ready access too.
And so does Russia. Everything that doesn't make quick and easy money has been sold for scrap. The turbines that compress the natural gas are made by Siemens, their oil well are operated by Exxon, Shell and OMV. Lada is a rebranded Dacia, which is a rebranded Renault. Their latest CPU is 2001 level of tech. They don't make anything, just extract raw ore and ship it, The price of motor-oil in Russia has almost doubled, cause they have to import the ingridients. Russia doesnt even make their own lightbulbs.
Heh. Russian turbines are filled with Siemen.
The turbines for NS1 pipeline to Germany are by Siemens. The turbines for Sila Sibiri pipeline to China are being built domestically.
https://www.uecrus.com/rus/presscenter/odk_news/?ELEMENT_ID=3679
submarines, nuclear power plants, various gas turbines
>Their latest CPU is 2001 level of tech.
seems pretty good for a resource extraction economy, and good enough for most weapons
What would China do with Russian wunderwaffe garbage?
Nobody knows. Russia is already down to T-62s and the front has moved a whopping 10km over the last 60 days. Russians are indoctrinated down to the core though, and Putin has the power to send untrained civilians with sticks and toy guns if he has to. And he will never accept defeat.
Russia is already stopped and needs to use it's entire weight to get a small city, but to bring them down to a point where an offensive is possible after they were able to dig in now is hard to say. It might take months, but at the end the only thing that can stop Russia is power. Russians will die for Putin and Putin has the economic leaders whipped in line. Russia will only stop if it runs out of people. The good thing is that we can easily outproduce them and make that scenario a reality.
Russia don't need top tier waffe for Ukraine.
just spam amounts of decent guided rocket and gun artillery.
Chi-Coms will double batch Apple phones to put on nose cones of rockets after Russian hackers do the integration thinking work.
That's implying Putin has anything to offer to China in return to bailing them. They could just as easily side against them for an opportunity to get brownie points with the west and seize their assets.
You do realise you can't use commercial GPS for rocketry right? If it knows its going so fast the things wont work.
How would the satellite know how fast something is going? It just transmits
The commercial receivers lock out if they detect themselves moving too fast
So the Chinese would need to make dedicated GPS guidance chips, and couldn't just repurpose smart phone chips.
Assuming they'd help in the first place.
>Russia is already down to T-62s
muh t-62s seen on train in deep Siberia
wake me up when they pop up in Ukraine
They already did, keep up
If Russia had T-72s they would give them out to their vassal states as well.
Getting a whole new tank requiring different tools, spares and ammunition is a huge strain on the supply chain and makes 0 sense if you have old tanks available.
Even sending T72-As is infinitely better than sending out T-62s with worse performance and an additional strain on logistics. And tank crews have trained exclusively on T-72s, so giving them T-62s is just a terrible idea from that perspective as well.
Either Russia is moronic or they have no other tanks to send. It's one or the other.
>It's one or the other.
Or both.
The T62s were for the D/LPR militias, not for the RAF.
>What would China do with Russian wunderwaffe garbage?
Resell it as a massive markup.
Imagine 2 modern, wanna-be-super powers trading with remains of impoverished empire that fallen 30 years ago
>Soviet shit
>advanced
I dread to find out what goes under normal in Russia if 30+ year old shit still counts as advanced.
>30 year old shit is advanced in Russia hurr durrrrrr
just wait until you find out how old the US's tech is.
>Cat of the Mon: What is your wisdom?
russia is winning though
Any day now! Once we take Stalingrad we've won! 2 more weeks! Trust the plan!
Now frick off shill.
I'm American and anti-Russian. How am I a shill?
You keep reusing this meme template incorrectly.
I have bad news for you, child.
Its probably already happened.
They are sending in T-62s and using nagants for frick sake.
The T-62s were given to South Ossetia militia men and the Mosin nag ants have scopes and are given to DPR/LPR militia who were conscripted with no previous training
It’s hardly an indicator of actual Russian equipment, we regularly see videos of Russian troops with t 80s and T 72s or new tanks being brought to the front
>the Mosin nag ants have scopes
So the shitty 19th century rifle has a shitty 20th century scope?
>It’s hardly an indicator of actual Russian equipment
It does raise the question why russia won't give those militia men some fricking AKs. Trained or not, they would be a lot more useful with those.
Mosin uses full power cartridge, is available, requires minimum training
Perfect gun for militia checkpoints and such few miles away from frontline
Imagine giving someone without training full auto rifle
I know LDPR forces had some obscure old shit before war, not seen anything like that recently
Now its mostly standard fairly modern Russian stuff
Only if you consider T-62's "fairly modern"
show me any proof they are in Ukraine
I've not seen anything recent
one video of train moving them through Siberia somewhere, thats it
You can't seriously believe that an untrained person with a nugget would be more effective in combat than with an AK. The only plausible reasons why they give them nuggets is because they don't give a shit about the lives of those militamen and because they can't afford to give away so many AKs.
or because untrained militiamen tasked with guarding rear areas and checkpoints don't need more and could do real damage with fully automatic weapons if they start overzealously "saboteur hunting"
We haven't seen T80 for months.
Why do you assume they save their worst tanks for last
Even if they ran out of missiles and tanks they can still wage ISIS tier warfare with technicals, so its insurgents vs insurgents.
maybe Mr.Kot can give him some advice
50-100k dead and at least 60% of its material
>close to being out of smart munitions
>close
anon vatnigs have resorted to firing 60s era AShms running on inertial guidance. We are way past the point of "close", in another month they'll be fielding fricking Skuds
Why do you assume they would need to run out of modern stuff before they start cleaning out their stocks of old stuff
howitzer/artillery wise they will never run out, its trivial for russia to produce an infinite amount of shells
missiles or smart weapons that require components they cant produce or buy cheap? very realistic they will totally deplete themselves by the end of the year
>howitzer/artillery wise they will never run out, its trivial for russia to produce an infinite amount of shells
Eventually the factory equipment will wither out, and their stockpiles will too. They could produce big stockpiles over time, but feeding this front won't let them before it's consumed. Unless Russia can produce much more artillery shells than we give them credit for.
its trivial for russia to produce the factory equipment to produce an infinite amount of shells
too bad it's not trivial for them to not get their supply depots shelled, now they just need a million more buhankas to drive the shells to the frontline and keep the supply depots away from HIMARS range
it isn't trivial actually
all the tools to MAKE machines and factories that make shells are from Europe nowadays
Sure, you can make factories, but who makes the tools to make factories? China? No. Who makes the machines to make the chips? Taiwan? No. That's Europe.
Russia can't even produce airbags or seat belts ffs.
Russia produces nothing, they have no industry that can survive being cut off from the west. And I mean that literally.
>B-But oil and gas and agriculture
All with western know how and equipment. Even the prostitutes use German Masculan condoms.
Russia has lost 38k dead or wounded, most of those are lpr and dnpr volunteer forces.
Ukraine has over 80k dead and 40k captured.
Who do you think is winning?
>russian statistics
Yes, and only 1 sailor died on the Moskva amirite?
Cope.
Can't wait for it to kick off properly though with martial law all over the west, the largest lockdown of all time.
You will eat the bugs and you will be conscripted to die on a battlefield in Eastern Europe.
>you will be conscripted to die on a battlefield in Eastern Europe.
Russia can't beat a corrupt ex-Soviet shithole with a GDP the size of Alabama, the current NATO peacetime troops alone could wipe out Russia's army in a week
>Cope
Pretty much summarizes your post Ivan.
>Conscripted to die in eastern Europe
If it means getting to kill you and your family I'm 100% down.
>80k dead and 40k captured
And your source is?
>80k dead and 40k captured.
lol
at least make it believable russki
There is no source, right?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese somehow fooled/ deceived or manipulated Putin into making this choice to invade Ukraine.
It's just working too well at transforming Russia into an utterly cucked soft debtor state with free natural resources for China to exploit.
No way. It revitalized NATO, remilitarized Europe, made the west ready for war and showed us that depending on hostile states with crazy dictators for certain products is a bad idea. It also introduced westerners to the concept of dictators acting irrational and a war being possible despite being illogical or even outright moronic.
I'd be surprised if China wasn't incredibly angry at Russia right now. They ruined decades of planning and deception