How much does the "athleticism"(strenght,int,...) of your soldier matter compared to their skills, their technology and tactics?

How much does the "athleticism"(strenght,int,...) of your soldier matter compared to their skills, their technology and tactics?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It tends to matter, but how much will vary greatly, and even trying to nail it down for any specific event will likely have you fall far enough down the rabbit hole that you loose sight of the original question and go on to asking actually meaningful questions instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Soldiers only have to be reasonably fit. They should resemble kickboxers instead of roided gay lifters.
      >muh forced marches, muh yomp
      If your soldiers have to walk 40km per day, you have fricked up logistically.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on a lot of things but history tends to favor the skilled and tactical. Technology helps but only if you can produce it at scale. One hundred rayguns means nothing. One hundred thousand wins you a war.

    Athleticism simply doesn't vary enough between person to person to overcome better tactics, skills, and tech.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Life isn’t a fricking videogame, nerd

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a stat you max dork. It's helpful ofc, but once you meet a general bracket other things matter more. It's like a prerequisite for relevance. Imagine your GPA. Are you going to get into Harvard with straight Ds? No. Are going to get in with straight As? Maybe, but your family connects and resume will matter more.
    PT and training aren't dominating factors on the battlefield, they're the low-hanging fruit you'd be stupid not to optimize for free. Take a look at Saudi Arabia vs Yemen. Saudi lost bad despite having the superior gear and numbers, because they didn't have the basic minimum of give-a-shit to make the gear count for anything.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can run away faster from a less favorable engagement your survival rate would shoot up

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It matters in an inverse proportion to how much you give a frick about the health and well-being of your forces.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't do the easy things like exercise you definitely can't do the hard things like apply tactics.
    Athleticism is the cap on how much IQ you can apply at the tactical edge. If you're sweaty and exhausted and can't think straight just from marching the last 2 miles to the gray zone, you won't be able to apply any brains at all when you get there. An inbred human ape from the Appalachians with great thews and a 95IQ will do better because your 130IQ in an air conditioned office is capped at Black level by your fat body.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A lot. A soldier who can walk 40 miles carrying 80lbs and be ready to fight at the end is a lot better and has more strategic and tactical utility than one who can walk 20 miles carrying 60.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rucking 40 miles
      >in a major war in the 2020s
      it's useful in bumfrick COIN operations in the mountains but no one is marching with horse drawn artillery anymore

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >things podgy Latino mech inf E6s say 2 minutes before they throw a track in a combat zone
        You're not 'based' you're just a lazy fat shitbag sarge. Stop huffing and puffing in front of the E4s you're embarrassing the other NCOs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And yet, I bet a column of guys moving tactically in tree cover is harder to spot by drones than driving them up to the front in frick off big IFVs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >*bombards the entire treeline with clusters, leaving only the men inside the IFVs alive*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >bombards the area with BONUS or SFW leaving only men outside IFVs alive
            Seethe, fat frick.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              how does rucking factor into the human body's bomb survivability? you can either march your ass out there and die, or drive out there and MAYBE not die. And it's not like the Russians are using BONUS, they don't even have manually guided Krasnopol shells left. Just glide bombs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You really don't know?
                On the freak chance you're legitimately an ignorant bystander asking a honest question, muscle mass and good cardio have a large, statistically linear relationship with the likelihood of surviving wounds. Lift heavy it's good for you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Over the top! Just flex your muscles bro you'll be fine! Forward!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >-t. fell out of a ruck
                >or lets be real, never made it into a military at all let alone a combat arms part
                You won't be there to kill or die in the first place fats. Eat your goyslop.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                anyone who says "goyslop" is probably good for about 10 minutes of jogging lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've run half marathons Black person. (Full marathons are for specialized runners). I ruck for fun.
                You OTOH are reduced to impotent Jon-Stewart-esque mocking of basic military and health science. You should be thanking me for educating your sorry mind.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                jon stewart! very relevant jab from 2003

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my crude rhetoric will make the science go away!
                It won't make your fat body go away either.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have to be seen first. Survivability onion.
            >But muh thermals
            Good luck seeing dismounts through thick tree cover on your thermals.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >And yet, I bet a column of guys moving tactically in tree cover is harder to spot by drones
          What column? Squad? Maybe. Company not much. And column marching moves x10 time longer leaving 10 times more opportunities to spot it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its helpful in regards you don't want your soldiers to be noodle arms who can barely walk and lift, but at the same time the other parts you mentioned usually play a much more critical role

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >thing A matters more therefore we don't need to invest in thing B at all even we could get it for free
    Classic nerd mistake.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a bot? It has nothing to do with the thread

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Americans are shorter and weaker than Serbs on average yet Americans deleted Serbs with no issues.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The higher up the tech tree you go, the less of a priority strength needs, but it has a baseline for effectiveness.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Pic
    Me (6ft) vs You (5ft11in)

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