I've never seen the point to having more than like 3 or 4 unless you shoot competitively
This is where I'm at. For most handgun shooters, the mags that came with the gun are the only ones they will ever use, but that doesn't mean they barely shoot. Pistol magazines are very durable, so unless you practice or compete in a way where the mags are getting stepped on and kicked around in the dirt, they're going to last as long as the gun does. If you shoot at a range that charges by the hour, I can definitely understand buying more mags and having them already loaded before you arrive. Also, it's smart to buy lots of extra mags if you think your gun might be discontinued in your lifetime, unless you like getting raped in the wallet.
But that means 4 is 3? And 5 is 4? And 6 is 5? And 7 is 6?
he did it wrong
it's "two is one, one is none"
then "four is more, three is pee"
next level "seven is heaven, six sucks dicks"
then "nine is fine, eight i hate"
and so on
Body armor is a good choice as well, already banned in New York and probably some other liberal shitholes too. I’ve never heard anyone advocate banning NODs.
0 lol not everyone lives in a warzone. It's just you Americans loading up to protect you from other Americans while we're 7 times less likely to die violently just by banning guns.
I get to have my cake and eat it too. Safe medium sized town and have guns out the ass for whatever. Just be nice to the people replacing you when your grandkids and beyond are minorities in their own country forvever
>You're getting racially replaced >t. Italian-Scottish-German-Polish mutt with Indian ancestors surrounded by Black folk and hispanics speaking to someone from a 95% racially homogenous country because they let in some refugees
Even if it were true, what part of this has any relation to 'if you live in a civilized country, the number of clips you need is zero, if you don't live in a civilized country, why?"?
Because you need to maintain civility when allowing their replacements into the country. E*ros are in no position to stock up on guns and ammo if that doesn't work out.
Do e*ros know that guns have more uses than killing? Or are they so afraid of their own shadow they see everything as a potential weapon because their replacements might use it on them?
>You're getting racially replaced >t. Italian-Scottish-German-Polish mutt with Indian ancestors surrounded by Black folk and hispanics speaking to someone from a 95% racially homogenous country because they let in some refugees
Even if it were true, what part of this has any relation to 'if you live in a civilized country, the number of clips you need is zero, if you don't live in a civilized country, why?"?
>other americans
You mean non whites and yes they are hyper violent and i didnt vote for them to be around me. The government allows them to exist in my world so i must protect myself.
You do realize we live in a fluke of an epoch in the safest time in human history right? Our entire reality could be flipped upside down at the flip of a switch and any notions of being in a "safe" country go out the window when our ridiculously complicated and fragile systems collapse.
30, but only if I have multiples of the same gun which all like the same mag brands (eg ARs or 9mm Glocks, trickier for 1911s, which can be more particular). For one-off guns I feel comfortable with 12.
Keeping plenty of extra magazines is just good form. I also keep extra bolt carries and such. I would not call myself a heavy pepper, but I feel if you own guns and don’t have the parts on hand to fix them and replace magazines you might lose, it’s no good. Also of course, having a significant cache of ammo.
I have about 200 surplus mags for my HK91 and two PTR91s, and two extra parts kits for additional internals. I bought them back when they were like two bucks a magazine if you bought 100.
I also have about 60ish AR mags for my two AR’s, and at least five mags for all my handguns.
Some of my magazines are kind of shitty, the surplus G3 ones and some of the crappier AR mags I made the mistake of giving a try to. I have them all numbered and make a small mark in sharpie on mags I have issues with, I also keep them in a box away from the good ones, in case I need a part later like a spring or follower.
Frankly, I don’t see why you wouldn’t keep a pile of mags, unless it’s an AR or AK mag, they are never going to get cheaper. I bought the G3 mags in bulk for this reason, they are like 5-10 dollars each now and most of them are in rough shape.
I do recommend marking your magazines, sometimes you get a lemon and you don’t want it to end up in a batch with the good ones.
I dunno, I've bulk bought alot, have at a min 8 for the odballs, ie ump, ps90, evo, only goes up from there, think 12 for mkiii stainless and it isn't even "high capacity"
Realistically no less than 10. You should also carry all 10 of those mags on your combat load because nobody in history has complained of too much ammo.
I think for your favourite guns you should have at least 5 a piece or more. Its nice to have a shit load of loaded mags ready to go for competitive and even just regukar shooting.
It's not JUST the mags you need to think about. It's how you load those mags as well. I'll never carry more than 6-8 AR mags in any reasonable scenario, but I can put 1000 rounds on stripper clips so that reloading those mags is much easier. So your number should be what you reasonably can carry, add 2-4 to that to account for breakage or losing them and then focus on how you can reload those mags quickly and reliably. This is all assuming you don't plan on arming/ equipping others. In that case buy until you're broke.
The original idea for the thread wasn't about having some 1990s FPS level of ammo. More about how many mags you should have to serve a lifetime of use comfortably. Say that 11+ cap magazines were banned tomorrow with grandfathering. What would be the amount of magazines to allow you to train without stress of babying precious magazines?
yea mags, ammo, and armor can definitely get banned or at least low supply in wartimes. The whole nods obsession makes less sense (coming from someone who actually owns them).
I'd say 3 if its a meme / surplus gun and n+1 if its your main fighting gun (AR, AK, FAL, G3, LR308, Glock, CZ, Beretta, etc). Just not so much where it's unreasonable. HOWEVER, remember that a ban can happen any year
Truthfully? As many as you can properly take care of. The N+1 rule is good, but it's mostly marketing to get you to spend your money. 10 per rifle and 5 per pistol is a good rule. More than that is a plus, but servicing and taking care of 20+ mags can get cumbersome.
My thoughts exactly. Most forget that duplication only extends service intervals per unit, but doesn't negate the fact that they still need to be taken care of.
Only relevant if they're actually in service. Let's say you decide that 200 pmags will last you a lifetime - you're still only ever going to be using maybe 20 of them at any given time. You can completely disregard the ones sealed up on a shelf.
True, though I’m saying most people overbuy mags beyond their needs. They then end up with these massive hoards that just take up space instead of being used. Spares isn’t a bad thing. Too many spares could be depending on how you look at it.
It's not like they're going to get any cheaper. I've got 60-odd pmags stuck up in the loft and they're not bothering me any.
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That’s fair. Though do you honestly anticipate using them all? If you got the space, no problem. I’ve already moved twice and have learned to appreciate the less is more view of these things. Even half of my guns I don’t even need that badly. I keep them because they’re cool but they’re a pita to move. If I had to do it over again, I’d probably just have 5 or less.
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Eventually, they do get fricked up. Then again I started from 0 fairly recently, when I moved to the US I just re-bought all the shooting stuff I thought I would need for the foreseeable. Which turned out to be a good thing with the coof, there's nothing quite like sitting on 150k Murom primers as you watch 9x19 hit 60cpr. With I'd brought a couple of shotguns though, finding a decent SxS around here is fricking grim.
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*wish
4 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like I started rambling there and missed the point.
Anyway I started from 0 so I just got a box of 100 emag-equivalent and now I can forget any mag related problems. Came out to about $900 IIRC with the added benefit of ban-proofing. I've had my fricking pistols taken away once already.
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>finding a decent SxS around here is fricking grim.
Fug, there was a site importing Spanish made ones somewhere, I forget which. If that isn't good enough, just get one imported. I know TGS Outdoors was shilling a service that would handle the Form 6 and UK side of the process for you IIRC, you just need to have an FFL that will accept the transfer. It was one of his videos about the lead ban in the UK and prices for side by sides being so low over there.
https://www.youtube.com/@tgsoutdoors/videos
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Yeah, it's more like a niggling resentment that there was a blip in the overall export/sell decision process. I underestimated replacement cost by an order of magnitude and selling a few on this side would've likely covered the the import fees and left me a couple to play with. I should have also imported my vehicles.
In reality I have 20 years of pistol autism to be going on with and paying through the nose for an AyA would really make me seethe.
My friend says they took 7-9x 30 round magazines into battle in Iraq and Afghanistan as infantry.
I think 200 rounds per person is more than enough, especially if you have economy of ammunition as well as the initiative and advantage of range and power in a surprise attack with a fully powered rifle as a guerrilla sniper.
Taping magazines "jungle style" allows you to carry more rounds on your rifle and less on your person, as well as reload faster with pre-taped and pre-loaded bundled magazines.
Seems a little excessive unless you own one rifle. I think it's fair to say that either 1000 rounds continuous is going to buy you enough time to bang in a few strippers, or you're going to be dead before you hit the bottom.
And if you're down to your pistol, you're kind of fricked already.
If you're really worried about how your mags are gonna function over time, invest a little time into learning how to take em apart and clean them. Magazines are important mechanisms just like everything else in your gun, not consumables (atleast not anymore)
And to actually answer your question, it's the same answer as any other gun related "How many x should I buy" question, and it's as many as you can feasibly buy
I live in dense urban sprawl so typically if I don't have to confront or contain a threat, it's more about not getting cornered by one. Assuming I just don't want to get sued for trying to save other people and get killed or crippled by hospital bills trying to play a hero. Paying to get a license per year and qualify to have rights and paying for what I'm suppose to have I doubt I'd ever have to fire a shot in anger so a lot more than is practical. A frickton, I think that's a metric unit a metric frickton more than I could reasonably carry.
Seems a little excessive unless you own one rifle. I think it's fair to say that either 1000 rounds continuous is going to buy you enough time to bang in a few strippers, or you're going to be dead before you hit the bottom.
And if you're down to your pistol, you're kind of fricked already.
If you don't have enough ammo to take out an entire kibbutz solo you're not prepared enough.
White Sharpie paint pen. Get fat and thin, you'll eventually need both. Will rub off if you put it on the front top of the mag (flat, not the spine). Tried it to keep it off the floorplates where the mfg. name is on metal mags as some are vintage and I wanted to number them to keep track. Put it on the baseplate. Or the dots if you're a Magpul Gen 3 guy. Or the flats between the waffle pattern if you're a Gen 2 guy.
n+1
n = your current value
>n+1
correct
The only correct answer
2 or 3
This is where I'm at. For most handgun shooters, the mags that came with the gun are the only ones they will ever use, but that doesn't mean they barely shoot. Pistol magazines are very durable, so unless you practice or compete in a way where the mags are getting stepped on and kicked around in the dirt, they're going to last as long as the gun does. If you shoot at a range that charges by the hour, I can definitely understand buying more mags and having them already loaded before you arrive. Also, it's smart to buy lots of extra mags if you think your gun might be discontinued in your lifetime, unless you like getting raped in the wallet.
1 is none, 2 is 1, 3 is 2
But that means 4 is 3? And 5 is 4? And 6 is 5? And 7 is 6?
he did it wrong
it's "two is one, one is none"
then "four is more, three is pee"
next level "seven is heaven, six sucks dicks"
then "nine is fine, eight i hate"
and so on
yes, of course we all know up to the seven heaven/six dicks part, but please continue, I'm not familiar with the 9/10/11/12 axioms
as many as you are financially willing to acquire
especially if they're not being made anymore(FAL mags)
I've never seen the point to having more than like 3 or 4 unless you shoot competitively
I have like 100 30 round pmags
>and no spare parts
You need 100 IQ.
When did I say I didn’t?
I mainly bought the mags in case of a future ban. That’s how I prioritized my purchases, buy the shit that’s most likely to be banned first
How about voting and influencing you selfish frick.
did you buy nods, its far easier for them to ban nods than guns and mags
the body armor seems to be getting more attention than nods.
I'd say if you are low on funds prioritize a primary rifle, secondary pistol, basic gear, armor, more mags/ammo, nods/thermal in that order.
Body armor is a good choice as well, already banned in New York and probably some other liberal shitholes too. I’ve never heard anyone advocate banning NODs.
theyre also really expensive
3 pistol, 6 rifle.
However many you can fit into whatever gear you have plus some extras. I need more
Full combat load for each rifle I own because I love to larp in full kit, about 3~4 mags for each handgun I own
The real answer. If poorgay or merely for occasional shooting/practice, go with
.
0 lol not everyone lives in a warzone. It's just you Americans loading up to protect you from other Americans while we're 7 times less likely to die violently just by banning guns.
I get to have my cake and eat it too. Safe medium sized town and have guns out the ass for whatever. Just be nice to the people replacing you when your grandkids and beyond are minorities in their own country forvever
>You're getting racially replaced
>t. Italian-Scottish-German-Polish mutt with Indian ancestors surrounded by Black folk and hispanics speaking to someone from a 95% racially homogenous country because they let in some refugees
Even if it were true, what part of this has any relation to 'if you live in a civilized country, the number of clips you need is zero, if you don't live in a civilized country, why?"?
Because you need to maintain civility when allowing their replacements into the country. E*ros are in no position to stock up on guns and ammo if that doesn't work out.
Do e*ros know that guns have more uses than killing? Or are they so afraid of their own shadow they see everything as a potential weapon because their replacements might use it on them?
Absolutely obsessed
>t. cuck homosexual from melbourne oblast
>other americans
You mean non whites and yes they are hyper violent and i didnt vote for them to be around me. The government allows them to exist in my world so i must protect myself.
>my world
That's the neat part, it isn't.
You do realize we live in a fluke of an epoch in the safest time in human history right? Our entire reality could be flipped upside down at the flip of a switch and any notions of being in a "safe" country go out the window when our ridiculously complicated and fragile systems collapse.
It won't collapse in our lifetimes
Wishful thinking. We have maybe 5 years left of what will someday known as the Great Peace, or maybe 10 if we’re lucky.
Meanwhile I don't think about you at all.
I want to die violently though, that's how you become an immortal in Highlander
mags are for gays
Ok Quigley. Now go frick Crazy Cora.
30, but only if I have multiples of the same gun which all like the same mag brands (eg ARs or 9mm Glocks, trickier for 1911s, which can be more particular). For one-off guns I feel comfortable with 12.
10 per person at least
>Fill all your mags with M193
>Want to shoot mk263
>Either shoot a mag of m193, empty a mag of m193, or buy another mag
4 is good when you keep it unfired in the closet.
Keeping plenty of extra magazines is just good form. I also keep extra bolt carries and such. I would not call myself a heavy pepper, but I feel if you own guns and don’t have the parts on hand to fix them and replace magazines you might lose, it’s no good. Also of course, having a significant cache of ammo.
I have about 200 surplus mags for my HK91 and two PTR91s, and two extra parts kits for additional internals. I bought them back when they were like two bucks a magazine if you bought 100.
I also have about 60ish AR mags for my two AR’s, and at least five mags for all my handguns.
Some of my magazines are kind of shitty, the surplus G3 ones and some of the crappier AR mags I made the mistake of giving a try to. I have them all numbered and make a small mark in sharpie on mags I have issues with, I also keep them in a box away from the good ones, in case I need a part later like a spring or follower.
Frankly, I don’t see why you wouldn’t keep a pile of mags, unless it’s an AR or AK mag, they are never going to get cheaper. I bought the G3 mags in bulk for this reason, they are like 5-10 dollars each now and most of them are in rough shape.
I do recommend marking your magazines, sometimes you get a lemon and you don’t want it to end up in a batch with the good ones.
I dunno, I've bulk bought alot, have at a min 8 for the odballs, ie ump, ps90, evo, only goes up from there, think 12 for mkiii stainless and it isn't even "high capacity"
well shit, realized I have only 3 mags for the gold Deagle I stuck in my ass a while back.
Realistically no less than 10. You should also carry all 10 of those mags on your combat load because nobody in history has complained of too much ammo.
>nobody in history has complained of too much ammo
Plenty have complained about too much weight.
I think for your favourite guns you should have at least 5 a piece or more. Its nice to have a shit load of loaded mags ready to go for competitive and even just regukar shooting.
It's not JUST the mags you need to think about. It's how you load those mags as well. I'll never carry more than 6-8 AR mags in any reasonable scenario, but I can put 1000 rounds on stripper clips so that reloading those mags is much easier. So your number should be what you reasonably can carry, add 2-4 to that to account for breakage or losing them and then focus on how you can reload those mags quickly and reliably. This is all assuming you don't plan on arming/ equipping others. In that case buy until you're broke.
Idk man, I just buy one every time I go to a sporting goods store. A pmag is like 12 bucks so there's no reason not to
The reality is that even in a SHTF situation you are not throwing 40 mags into your backpack.
You will probably have 2 for your pistol (one loaded, one spare on your belt) and 6-7 for rifle (one loaded, six in your kit).
The original idea for the thread wasn't about having some 1990s FPS level of ammo. More about how many mags you should have to serve a lifetime of use comfortably. Say that 11+ cap magazines were banned tomorrow with grandfathering. What would be the amount of magazines to allow you to train without stress of babying precious magazines?
For me, it's AT LEAST 5 mags per handgun and 10 mags per rifle
minimum 5 mags per gun. 10 are better. look at all the mag bans we've already had, not being able to ever buy more is a real concern.
yea mags, ammo, and armor can definitely get banned or at least low supply in wartimes. The whole nods obsession makes less sense (coming from someone who actually owns them).
10 of each, unless its meme/fun gun in which case three is fine
I'd say 3 if its a meme / surplus gun and n+1 if its your main fighting gun (AR, AK, FAL, G3, LR308, Glock, CZ, Beretta, etc). Just not so much where it's unreasonable. HOWEVER, remember that a ban can happen any year
Gaza
bump
probably 10 minimum, more if they die as you use them, but at a bare minimum 10, with 3-5 loaded always.
Depends how much you shoot them. How many cartridges, barrels, etc. will last you for your entire life?
Truthfully? As many as you can properly take care of. The N+1 rule is good, but it's mostly marketing to get you to spend your money. 10 per rifle and 5 per pistol is a good rule. More than that is a plus, but servicing and taking care of 20+ mags can get cumbersome.
>servicing and taking care of
OP's on the "lifetime supply" train, most of them would be living in a cardboard box until an in-use mag breaks.
My thoughts exactly. Most forget that duplication only extends service intervals per unit, but doesn't negate the fact that they still need to be taken care of.
Only relevant if they're actually in service. Let's say you decide that 200 pmags will last you a lifetime - you're still only ever going to be using maybe 20 of them at any given time. You can completely disregard the ones sealed up on a shelf.
True, though I’m saying most people overbuy mags beyond their needs. They then end up with these massive hoards that just take up space instead of being used. Spares isn’t a bad thing. Too many spares could be depending on how you look at it.
It's not like they're going to get any cheaper. I've got 60-odd pmags stuck up in the loft and they're not bothering me any.
That’s fair. Though do you honestly anticipate using them all? If you got the space, no problem. I’ve already moved twice and have learned to appreciate the less is more view of these things. Even half of my guns I don’t even need that badly. I keep them because they’re cool but they’re a pita to move. If I had to do it over again, I’d probably just have 5 or less.
Eventually, they do get fricked up. Then again I started from 0 fairly recently, when I moved to the US I just re-bought all the shooting stuff I thought I would need for the foreseeable. Which turned out to be a good thing with the coof, there's nothing quite like sitting on 150k Murom primers as you watch 9x19 hit 60cpr. With I'd brought a couple of shotguns though, finding a decent SxS around here is fricking grim.
*wish
Looks like I started rambling there and missed the point.
Anyway I started from 0 so I just got a box of 100 emag-equivalent and now I can forget any mag related problems. Came out to about $900 IIRC with the added benefit of ban-proofing. I've had my fricking pistols taken away once already.
>finding a decent SxS around here is fricking grim.
Fug, there was a site importing Spanish made ones somewhere, I forget which. If that isn't good enough, just get one imported. I know TGS Outdoors was shilling a service that would handle the Form 6 and UK side of the process for you IIRC, you just need to have an FFL that will accept the transfer. It was one of his videos about the lead ban in the UK and prices for side by sides being so low over there.
https://www.youtube.com/@tgsoutdoors/videos
Yeah, it's more like a niggling resentment that there was a blip in the overall export/sell decision process. I underestimated replacement cost by an order of magnitude and selling a few on this side would've likely covered the the import fees and left me a couple to play with. I should have also imported my vehicles.
In reality I have 20 years of pistol autism to be going on with and paying through the nose for an AyA would really make me seethe.
My friend says they took 7-9x 30 round magazines into battle in Iraq and Afghanistan as infantry.
I think 200 rounds per person is more than enough, especially if you have economy of ammunition as well as the initiative and advantage of range and power in a surprise attack with a fully powered rifle as a guerrilla sniper.
Taping magazines "jungle style" allows you to carry more rounds on your rifle and less on your person, as well as reload faster with pre-taped and pre-loaded bundled magazines.
20 mags for rifle gives you some backups for when you break them
You should have at least 1k rounds loaded in mags and ready for each rifle. 15 or 20 pistol mags that hold at least 15 rounds.
Seems a little excessive unless you own one rifle. I think it's fair to say that either 1000 rounds continuous is going to buy you enough time to bang in a few strippers, or you're going to be dead before you hit the bottom.
And if you're down to your pistol, you're kind of fricked already.
>You should have at least 1k rounds loaded in mags and ready for each rifle.
I need to get 39 BX-25s immediately
If you're really worried about how your mags are gonna function over time, invest a little time into learning how to take em apart and clean them. Magazines are important mechanisms just like everything else in your gun, not consumables (atleast not anymore)
And to actually answer your question, it's the same answer as any other gun related "How many x should I buy" question, and it's as many as you can feasibly buy
I live in dense urban sprawl so typically if I don't have to confront or contain a threat, it's more about not getting cornered by one. Assuming I just don't want to get sued for trying to save other people and get killed or crippled by hospital bills trying to play a hero. Paying to get a license per year and qualify to have rights and paying for what I'm suppose to have I doubt I'd ever have to fire a shot in anger so a lot more than is practical. A frickton, I think that's a metric unit a metric frickton more than I could reasonably carry.
You may be the exception to
If you don't have enough ammo to take out an entire kibbutz solo you're not prepared enough.
As many as possible. Here in WA, when they were talking about high cap ban, I started buying so many mags, even mags to guns I don't even have.
I like having enough mags that I can go shooting and not muck about with loading mags with loose ammo at the range. About 10 does it for me
any fun or creative way to mark your mags so they don't get mixed up with friends at the range???
It's called spray paint or paint markers.
White Sharpie paint pen. Get fat and thin, you'll eventually need both. Will rub off if you put it on the front top of the mag (flat, not the spine). Tried it to keep it off the floorplates where the mfg. name is on metal mags as some are vintage and I wanted to number them to keep track. Put it on the baseplate. Or the dots if you're a Magpul Gen 3 guy. Or the flats between the waffle pattern if you're a Gen 2 guy.