A drone with explosives attached to it? ISIS did that 10 years ago. If you mean one that can loiter without needing an active operator controlling it, china is probably working on it right now.
>china is probably working on it right now
China already has drones that fly autonomously in swarms and they are leading in developing artificial intelligence. Y'all need to stop sleeping on the yellow peril.
I actually thought about doing that a couple years ago for some reason. No fricking idea why though, I think the feds beamed the idea into my brain to see if they could get some free r&d but failed to account for the fact that I have no fricking money.
The switchblade focus on minimizing collateral damage isn't something that useful outside of police actions/occupying forces. Chinese commercial drones bubba'd with mortar shells have already shown up in fields of combat.
Arsonbots carrying payloads of flaregun magnesium are something I'm going to assume becomes a domestic terror problem. Why the FCC and FAA are trying to figure out how to square drone registration and anti drone tech to preempt our cyberpunk future.
>Arsonbots carrying payloads of
These are already in regular use by wildfire firefighting teams, for starting backfires. I don't know about magnesium flares, but there are plenty that have napalm pumps, and one that loads and fires hypergolic permanganate/glycol filled ping-pong balls. The ping-pong balls themselves are made from nitrocellulose, so you end up with no residue left over.
The ping-pong ball one was kinda neat; the dispenser has a bunch of ping-pong balls in it that are preloaded with permanganate, and it injects ethylene glycol into them as it's shoving them out the ejection chute.
I'm thinking in terms of what will show up on the street with some garage engineering. A simple time delayed fuse like a wire element connected to a battery and the contents of a road flare would create a protracted flame capable of lighting paint and other flammable materials. Cheap alibaba drone lands on a roof somewhere maxxed out on payload with powdered magnesium, suddenly you have an apartment fire. Probably containable, but not if 20 of them happened at the same time in the same district.
Something built for purpose and reusable would probably not become that common versus fly and forget. Cost and risk are lower making something simple and self immolating. Everyone memes about thermite but (literally) pound for pound there are a lot more commercially available flame sources and accelerants law enforcement/glowies should be worried about. >probably a reason why LED meme flares and shittier flame flares have replaced real flares on the shelf of most stores
I wouldn't at all be surprised if this sort of thing starts happening as a partisan action in existing/future eastern euro conflict or some future rumblings in china or hong kong.
>and anti drone tech to preempt our cyberpunk future.
literally impossible as autonomous drones can only be GPS jammed(if relying only on GPS) or kinetically destroyed. The Iranian and Houthi drones already have inertial navigation that automatically takes over if the GPS is jammed.
There are plenty of multirotor designs available for printing, but the plastic parts of those are relatively cheap - most of the price of a commercial drone is the battery and motors. The complexity of the electronics + low payoff means it's cheaper to outfit commercial drones with 3D printed munitions than it is to 3D print LM drones themselves.
>3d printed munitions
That's moronic, a bomb is a bomb
You synthesize the explosives and make a fuze, there's no need to print anything
Also, a single motor is all that's needed if you make a plane type device which is what the switchblade is, fill the entire fuselage with explosives and put a fuze at the nose area and fly it around til you spot a target then fly into it
Simple shit
You don't need 4 motors, you need 1 motor and some basic control surfaces and a fuselage with room for a speed control, radio, battery and explosives
No explosives though just fill it with playdough because explosives are illegal
Okay, and what's stopping you from designing and printing this yourself if it's so easy, huh?
It's more than just one motor. You need to motor, battery, control unit, camera... you're going to throw all those parts away by suicide bombing? There is a reason those disposable munitions are only used by high-price MIC countries, it's because they exist only to line the pockets of a politician and his cronies.
>It's more than just one motor. You need to motor, battery, control unit, camera
i said all of that except camera
>Okay, and what's stopping you from designing and printing this yourself
i don't know how to make planes moron, lots of people do though >you're going to throw all this away
yes, it's worth it to throw away 2-500 dollars in parts to take out a target moron, the military pays 100x this to take out one person
>thinks it's easy to make a plane, it's just like a motor and stuff >just synthesize high explosives bruh >just fly by sight from the ground without all that useless shit like cameras or self stabilization, it's just radios an sheeeeit >what is economy of scale and lack of registry got to do with anything >Namegay
checks out
it's easy to make a plane, it's just like a motor and stuff
it literally is, ive made RC planes from kits, it didn't cost more than a couple hundred dollars for everything >just synthesize explosives
yes, walmart has everything you need to make real legit high explosives >just by sight
i never said that are you moronic >economy of scale
what?
the entire point is it's 3d printed and anyone can make it and it's cheap, there is no scale involved
>be moronic namegay who tried some adulting by putting together a 3 part kit RC he flew (and crashed) once
or >be dune coon using a $90 chinese drone to drop mortar shells on peoples heads with an off the shelf package delivery quick release
Drones with 1-5lb payloads are cheaper by the day and showing up in warzones as spotters and to drop ordinance on people. The switchblade concept is the most overcomplicated MiC way to make a flying hand grenade and about the exact opposite design philosophy anyone else would take to get the same effect.
The next leg of armament for drones is software. Things like stabilizing gunfire. Remote actuators to drop things already exist for "package delivery." What would really make things spicy is someone developing a proper bomb sight app for commercial drones already being put into military service. Probably something that will come about once jamming guns (or shotguns) start being used and abdul can't safely hover directly over a target.
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>The switchblade concept is the most overcomplicated MiC way to make a flying hand grenade and about the exact opposite design philosophy anyone else would take to get the same effect.
Quadcopters weren't really a thing back in 2003 when that guy first started developing the Switchblade. And yes, I KNOW about that weird deBothezat one back in 1923, its highest flight was sixteen feet AGL, it doesn't count.
>you only need 1 motor and 3-4 servos instead of needing 4 motors
you can get away with 2 servos with a flying-wing drone, as well as certain other configurations. But please understand that quadcopters are inexpensive because the cost of a servo is about equal to the cost of a motor.
>small suicide drone
any drone hobbyist capable of customizing their own drone could do it, assuming a bombmaker provides them a suitable warhead. You literally just take a standard drone with a FPV camera and slap an impact detonated warhead on it.
A drone with explosives attached to it? ISIS did that 10 years ago. If you mean one that can loiter without needing an active operator controlling it, china is probably working on it right now.
you can buy basic b***h flight controllers (and ready to fly kits) that will do level circles on command
> If you mean one that can loiter without needing an active operator controlling it, china is probably working on it right now.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/01/1002196245/a-u-n-report-suggests-libya-saw-the-first-battlefield-killing-by-an-autonomous-d
>How long till someone makes it from scratch?
STM Alpagu and Alpagu-2
> https://www.armyrecognition.com/expodefensa_2017_news_online_show_daily/expodefensa_2017_stm_unveils_alpagu_2_tactical_attack_uav.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJShLyVek9U
Transvaro Fedai 101 and Fedai 102
> https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/transvaro-fedai-loitering-munition-uav-killer-new-laser-target-designator-and-eo-solutions-4983
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKSarC80ZyI
>china is probably working on it right now
China already has drones that fly autonomously in swarms and they are leading in developing artificial intelligence. Y'all need to stop sleeping on the yellow peril.
I actually thought about doing that a couple years ago for some reason. No fricking idea why though, I think the feds beamed the idea into my brain to see if they could get some free r&d but failed to account for the fact that I have no fricking money.
The switchblade focus on minimizing collateral damage isn't something that useful outside of police actions/occupying forces. Chinese commercial drones bubba'd with mortar shells have already shown up in fields of combat.
Arsonbots carrying payloads of flaregun magnesium are something I'm going to assume becomes a domestic terror problem. Why the FCC and FAA are trying to figure out how to square drone registration and anti drone tech to preempt our cyberpunk future.
>Arsonbots carrying payloads of
These are already in regular use by wildfire firefighting teams, for starting backfires. I don't know about magnesium flares, but there are plenty that have napalm pumps, and one that loads and fires hypergolic permanganate/glycol filled ping-pong balls. The ping-pong balls themselves are made from nitrocellulose, so you end up with no residue left over.
The ping-pong ball one was kinda neat; the dispenser has a bunch of ping-pong balls in it that are preloaded with permanganate, and it injects ethylene glycol into them as it's shoving them out the ejection chute.
Oops, it's "glycerol", not "glycol".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerol_and_potassium_permanganate
I'm thinking in terms of what will show up on the street with some garage engineering. A simple time delayed fuse like a wire element connected to a battery and the contents of a road flare would create a protracted flame capable of lighting paint and other flammable materials. Cheap alibaba drone lands on a roof somewhere maxxed out on payload with powdered magnesium, suddenly you have an apartment fire. Probably containable, but not if 20 of them happened at the same time in the same district.
Something built for purpose and reusable would probably not become that common versus fly and forget. Cost and risk are lower making something simple and self immolating. Everyone memes about thermite but (literally) pound for pound there are a lot more commercially available flame sources and accelerants law enforcement/glowies should be worried about.
>probably a reason why LED meme flares and shittier flame flares have replaced real flares on the shelf of most stores
I wouldn't at all be surprised if this sort of thing starts happening as a partisan action in existing/future eastern euro conflict or some future rumblings in china or hong kong.
>and anti drone tech to preempt our cyberpunk future.
literally impossible as autonomous drones can only be GPS jammed(if relying only on GPS) or kinetically destroyed. The Iranian and Houthi drones already have inertial navigation that automatically takes over if the GPS is jammed.
The future is now.
give me couple days
3d print gays should be working on stuff like this, printed remote control disposable drones, not guns
this would be much more useful and powerful
There are plenty of multirotor designs available for printing, but the plastic parts of those are relatively cheap - most of the price of a commercial drone is the battery and motors. The complexity of the electronics + low payoff means it's cheaper to outfit commercial drones with 3D printed munitions than it is to 3D print LM drones themselves.
>3d printed munitions
That's moronic, a bomb is a bomb
You synthesize the explosives and make a fuze, there's no need to print anything
Also, a single motor is all that's needed if you make a plane type device which is what the switchblade is, fill the entire fuselage with explosives and put a fuze at the nose area and fly it around til you spot a target then fly into it
Simple shit
You don't need 4 motors, you need 1 motor and some basic control surfaces and a fuselage with room for a speed control, radio, battery and explosives
No explosives though just fill it with playdough because explosives are illegal
Okay, and what's stopping you from designing and printing this yourself if it's so easy, huh?
It's more than just one motor. You need to motor, battery, control unit, camera... you're going to throw all those parts away by suicide bombing? There is a reason those disposable munitions are only used by high-price MIC countries, it's because they exist only to line the pockets of a politician and his cronies.
>It's more than just one motor. You need to motor, battery, control unit, camera
i said all of that except camera
>Okay, and what's stopping you from designing and printing this yourself
i don't know how to make planes moron, lots of people do though
>you're going to throw all this away
yes, it's worth it to throw away 2-500 dollars in parts to take out a target moron, the military pays 100x this to take out one person
>thinks it's easy to make a plane, it's just like a motor and stuff
>just synthesize high explosives bruh
>just fly by sight from the ground without all that useless shit like cameras or self stabilization, it's just radios an sheeeeit
>what is economy of scale and lack of registry got to do with anything
>Namegay
checks out
go be a moron somewhere else
it's easy to make a plane, it's just like a motor and stuff
it literally is, ive made RC planes from kits, it didn't cost more than a couple hundred dollars for everything
>just synthesize explosives
yes, walmart has everything you need to make real legit high explosives
>just by sight
i never said that are you moronic
>economy of scale
what?
the entire point is it's 3d printed and anyone can make it and it's cheap, there is no scale involved
>be moronic namegay who tried some adulting by putting together a 3 part kit RC he flew (and crashed) once
or
>be dune coon using a $90 chinese drone to drop mortar shells on peoples heads with an off the shelf package delivery quick release
Drones with 1-5lb payloads are cheaper by the day and showing up in warzones as spotters and to drop ordinance on people. The switchblade concept is the most overcomplicated MiC way to make a flying hand grenade and about the exact opposite design philosophy anyone else would take to get the same effect.
The next leg of armament for drones is software. Things like stabilizing gunfire. Remote actuators to drop things already exist for "package delivery." What would really make things spicy is someone developing a proper bomb sight app for commercial drones already being put into military service. Probably something that will come about once jamming guns (or shotguns) start being used and abdul can't safely hover directly over a target.
>The switchblade concept is the most overcomplicated MiC way to make a flying hand grenade and about the exact opposite design philosophy anyone else would take to get the same effect.
Quadcopters weren't really a thing back in 2003 when that guy first started developing the Switchblade. And yes, I KNOW about that weird deBothezat one back in 1923, its highest flight was sixteen feet AGL, it doesn't count.
>you only need 1 motor and 3-4 servos instead of needing 4 motors
you can get away with 2 servos with a flying-wing drone, as well as certain other configurations. But please understand that quadcopters are inexpensive because the cost of a servo is about equal to the cost of a motor.
i'm trans btw
stay btfo
>small suicide drone
any drone hobbyist capable of customizing their own drone could do it, assuming a bombmaker provides them a suitable warhead. You literally just take a standard drone with a FPV camera and slap an impact detonated warhead on it.
From scratch, I hear you say?