>ruthless efficiency >by building out massive expensive infrastructure that nobody uses to areas where nobody goes in order to gloat about it online
i'm a euro, and we all know about burgerlander's strange hatred of public transport, but c'mon now.
chink infrastructure falls apart when you look at it wrong, it's mostly pretty bad, especially once you get outside the 3 biggest coastal cities.
Anon, Chinese rail is pretty fricked.
I have a few collegues that worked over there as advisors for their construction projects and it's a fricking nightmare. The bridges will last 30 years tops, the tunnels are leaking like motherfrickers and the overhead wire will be a maintenance nightmare for the rest of time because the pylons have shit foundations.
Anon, Chinese rail is pretty fricked.
I have a few collegues that worked over there as advisors for their construction projects and it's a fricking nightmare. The bridges will last 30 years tops, the tunnels are leaking like motherfrickers and the overhead wire will be a maintenance nightmare for the rest of time because the pylons have shit foundations.
That said American rail is also fricked, but at least they aren't rushing to build shit so fast and badly that they won't be able to maintain it.
>As of 2022, the China State Railway Group has had a debt of around US$900 billion, according to Nikkei. Conservative scholars and officials are worried that the indebted high-speed rail is further exacerbated by its unprofitability, operating at a daily loss of US$24 million as of November 2021.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's going to get worse.
The construction is so shit, that the entire network will a continuous construction site, sucking up money, resources and limiting capacity.
2 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/2joLoko.jpg
Yes
It's going to get worse not because of some made up construction defects but because China becomes richer and switches to automobile. Public transit is bleeding customers in China at supersonic speeds.
Its funny how smug liberal like to parade Chinese public transit when its on course of been trampled by car just like in US.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You're moronic.
Just because car use increases doesn't mean trains suddenly become irrelevant, it's quite the opposite actually.
Car use, especially in a country like China will quickly outstrip road capacity and then you need trains to get people off the road.
The mistake they made was building high speed rail everywhere, which fricks 90% of their population because they can't afford the tickets.
And shitty construction is not a meme, wait a few years, there will be some big fricking accidents.
2 months ago
Anonymous
public transit is bleeding customers in china because their public transit is shite
burgers will find any cope necessary to justify the hellhole they have created for themselves lmao.
you will never have a nice neighbourhood with lots of people walking around and lots of small shops competing with eachother on a single street again.
you WILL live in the mcmansion
you WILL buy from massive conglomorates
you WILL get fat from lack of exercise
though tbh, your liberals haven't helped matters by convincing themselves that europeans actually hate cars and want to get rid of them entirely, instead of just having them be used for trips where they make sense.
it's really funny how hyperbolic americans are.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It is what it is
2 months ago
Anonymous
>this much seethe over nothing
absolutely mind broken
2 months ago
Anonymous
So true, sar. Us fellow Europeans do plenty the needful and do not happy with ebil cooperation that eats cows
you're right, it's pretty impressive how much americans seethe when yuro's tell them that there exists a reality where they don't have to be stuck in traffic for an hour to go buy groceries.
>inb4 le bugs
europeans still own and love cars, we just don't take them on literally every single trip because we're not moronic.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I see we are kindred spirits. Me and other euro sars laugh so much when look at white mutts in U.S.A. truly they have no idea how racist hold them back from beautify Europe like us.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>NOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
lmao, what a fricking moron.
2 months ago
Anonymous
So true, sar. Us fellow Europeans do plenty the needful and do not happy with ebil cooperation that eats cows
2 months ago
Anonymous
I love my mcmansion, pickup truck and a full gym in my garage. I guess I could see how it's wasteful If you've never experienced the benefits of living in quite suburbs.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This is true. I do like San Diego where I live as I can get up and drive anywhere, but when I was in Japan and Korea I loved being able to walk anywhere and the vast number of local shops that existed to compete with one another everywhere. It's pointless to b***h about it, it's literally generations passed a point when it could change. The entire infrastructure would have to be torn up from the ground to re-do it. For what it's worth, I do like that in America I can retire to a suburb when I don't want to be near anything, which is something I cannot do without spending more time in a more rail-based country. But that's a (somewhat) minor nitpick.
China has an advantage over California in that it is an autocracy where the state owns all the land. The Chinese government can just declare that there will be a rail line here, and if you disagree, you can go frick yourself.
California's high speed rail project, on the other hand, has spent the last god knows how long in legal hell because they need to negotiate land use rights for every inch. Every time the path crosses a property line, they have to get an easement. Many of those property owners will fight them on it. And they need ALL of the land secured before they can build any of it.
And I, for one, prefer living in a country where the government has to provide a valid legal argument before they get to use my land.
I suspect it's the same reason they don't go in for nuclear power much on land either. Not sure what that reason is, but I suspect it's because unlike their other major frickups, if they frick up a nuclear power plant, people outside of China will freak out.
I'm pretty sure all their submarines are diesels. That one at least might have more to do with the fact that it's easier to manufacture quiet diesel subs than nuclear ones, rather than because they are worried about accidents, because those accidents would cover themselves up.
is it? I would think that for their big megacities nuclear would win out on cost if they start making big enough nuclear plants. Also nuclear would seem to fit their preference for centralizing things.
Very likely a risk management strategy. You have to master new technologies one by one. And geopolitically, I don't think the Chinese are expecting to be able to project power beyond the island chain.
The next gen carrier after this will probably have nuclear.
I thought the reason why angled flight decks were created was to avoid collisions between the aircrafts that are taking off from those which are landing. So why install catapults directly intersecting with the landing strip?
Because with an angled deck, planes that have landed on this recovery cycle can be safely spotted on the forward flight deck to be dealt with later.
… does anyone know what the ship right below it is? It looks like a cruise ship. Is China outfitting cruise ships at the same yard they’re building their aircraft carrier?
That is a dedicated berthing support ship for the PLAN carrier force, always seen before sea trials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguan-class_troopship
I thought the reason why angled flight decks were created was to avoid collisions between the aircrafts that are taking off from those which are landing. So why install catapults directly intersecting with the landing strip?
Angled flight decks are to protect aircraft's falling into water to be overrun by carrier and save pilot life.
You don't have to use all four at once, but it doubles your launch rate while not recovering aircraft and provides redundancy in case the forward part of the deck gets damaged
Didn't they steal that design from the Americans though? Pretty sure the later supercarriers use the same layout.
This is for all the people who say that the Type 076 is moronic for daring to use catapults on a non-angled deck because muhh accidents, when super carriers literally have half of their catapults intersecting with the landing strip...
… does anyone know what the ship right below it is? It looks like a cruise ship. Is China outfitting cruise ships at the same yard they’re building their aircraft carrier?
Typically 2 weeks.
Implessive
Hmmm, probably two weeks after they put in the nuclear reactor. It does have a nuclear reactor, right?
>It does have a nuclear reactor, right?
Awwww shit. I knew we forgot something.
DC EMALS (Type 003) > AC EMALS (USS Ford). It can be even installed in the Type 076 LHD
implessive, i thought china was weak but now i have learned that china is in fact very strong
t.wong donglong shartingdragon from tennessee province.
Yes
>ruthless efficiency
>by building out massive expensive infrastructure that nobody uses to areas where nobody goes in order to gloat about it online
i'm a euro, and we all know about burgerlander's strange hatred of public transport, but c'mon now.
chink infrastructure falls apart when you look at it wrong, it's mostly pretty bad, especially once you get outside the 3 biggest coastal cities.
Anon, Chinese rail is pretty fricked.
I have a few collegues that worked over there as advisors for their construction projects and it's a fricking nightmare. The bridges will last 30 years tops, the tunnels are leaking like motherfrickers and the overhead wire will be a maintenance nightmare for the rest of time because the pylons have shit foundations.
That said American rail is also fricked, but at least they aren't rushing to build shit so fast and badly that they won't be able to maintain it.
>As of 2022, the China State Railway Group has had a debt of around US$900 billion, according to Nikkei. Conservative scholars and officials are worried that the indebted high-speed rail is further exacerbated by its unprofitability, operating at a daily loss of US$24 million as of November 2021.
It's going to get worse.
The construction is so shit, that the entire network will a continuous construction site, sucking up money, resources and limiting capacity.
It's going to get worse not because of some made up construction defects but because China becomes richer and switches to automobile. Public transit is bleeding customers in China at supersonic speeds.
Its funny how smug liberal like to parade Chinese public transit when its on course of been trampled by car just like in US.
You're moronic.
Just because car use increases doesn't mean trains suddenly become irrelevant, it's quite the opposite actually.
Car use, especially in a country like China will quickly outstrip road capacity and then you need trains to get people off the road.
The mistake they made was building high speed rail everywhere, which fricks 90% of their population because they can't afford the tickets.
And shitty construction is not a meme, wait a few years, there will be some big fricking accidents.
public transit is bleeding customers in china because their public transit is shite
burgers will find any cope necessary to justify the hellhole they have created for themselves lmao.
you will never have a nice neighbourhood with lots of people walking around and lots of small shops competing with eachother on a single street again.
you WILL live in the mcmansion
you WILL buy from massive conglomorates
you WILL get fat from lack of exercise
though tbh, your liberals haven't helped matters by convincing themselves that europeans actually hate cars and want to get rid of them entirely, instead of just having them be used for trips where they make sense.
it's really funny how hyperbolic americans are.
It is what it is
>this much seethe over nothing
absolutely mind broken
you're right, it's pretty impressive how much americans seethe when yuro's tell them that there exists a reality where they don't have to be stuck in traffic for an hour to go buy groceries.
>inb4 le bugs
europeans still own and love cars, we just don't take them on literally every single trip because we're not moronic.
I see we are kindred spirits. Me and other euro sars laugh so much when look at white mutts in U.S.A. truly they have no idea how racist hold them back from beautify Europe like us.
>NOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
lmao, what a fricking moron.
So true, sar. Us fellow Europeans do plenty the needful and do not happy with ebil cooperation that eats cows
I love my mcmansion, pickup truck and a full gym in my garage. I guess I could see how it's wasteful If you've never experienced the benefits of living in quite suburbs.
This is true. I do like San Diego where I live as I can get up and drive anywhere, but when I was in Japan and Korea I loved being able to walk anywhere and the vast number of local shops that existed to compete with one another everywhere. It's pointless to b***h about it, it's literally generations passed a point when it could change. The entire infrastructure would have to be torn up from the ground to re-do it. For what it's worth, I do like that in America I can retire to a suburb when I don't want to be near anything, which is something I cannot do without spending more time in a more rail-based country. But that's a (somewhat) minor nitpick.
>And that's a good thing
Anyone who ends an article title like this deserves to have their head caved in.
They're right, you know. It is a good thing.
China has an advantage over California in that it is an autocracy where the state owns all the land. The Chinese government can just declare that there will be a rail line here, and if you disagree, you can go frick yourself.
California's high speed rail project, on the other hand, has spent the last god knows how long in legal hell because they need to negotiate land use rights for every inch. Every time the path crosses a property line, they have to get an easement. Many of those property owners will fight them on it. And they need ALL of the land secured before they can build any of it.
And I, for one, prefer living in a country where the government has to provide a valid legal argument before they get to use my land.
no, chinks can't really into naval reactors for some reason.
Why don't they do that? Does it make any sense to not use one?
I suspect it's the same reason they don't go in for nuclear power much on land either. Not sure what that reason is, but I suspect it's because unlike their other major frickups, if they frick up a nuclear power plant, people outside of China will freak out.
Are they at least smart enough to use them on submarines?
I'm pretty sure all their submarines are diesels. That one at least might have more to do with the fact that it's easier to manufacture quiet diesel subs than nuclear ones, rather than because they are worried about accidents, because those accidents would cover themselves up.
lol what. its because coal is so much cheaper even with their zero regulation as its plentiful to be found
is it? I would think that for their big megacities nuclear would win out on cost if they start making big enough nuclear plants. Also nuclear would seem to fit their preference for centralizing things.
Very likely a risk management strategy. You have to master new technologies one by one. And geopolitically, I don't think the Chinese are expecting to be able to project power beyond the island chain.
The next gen carrier after this will probably have nuclear.
14 days
Did you know China has P-A-I-N-T?
Yeah, and a brand new CATOBAR Aircraft Carrier with EMALS
Implessive.
Emails? Damn them chinks really are crafty getting their carriers to send those heh
I thought the reason why angled flight decks were created was to avoid collisions between the aircrafts that are taking off from those which are landing. So why install catapults directly intersecting with the landing strip?
Because they aren't landing and taking off at the same time.
Then why even bother with an angled flight deck?
Don't need to use all of the catapults at once. It depends on the situation.
Because with an angled deck, planes that have landed on this recovery cycle can be safely spotted on the forward flight deck to be dealt with later.
That is a dedicated berthing support ship for the PLAN carrier force, always seen before sea trials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguan-class_troopship
Implessive
Angled flight decks are to protect aircraft's falling into water to be overrun by carrier and save pilot life.
You don't have to use all four at once, but it doubles your launch rate while not recovering aircraft and provides redundancy in case the forward part of the deck gets damaged
Didn't they steal that design from the Americans though? Pretty sure the later supercarriers use the same layout.
This is for all the people who say that the Type 076 is moronic for daring to use catapults on a non-angled deck because muhh accidents, when super carriers literally have half of their catapults intersecting with the landing strip...
since it has the short takeoff no landing tech tree unlcoked
… does anyone know what the ship right below it is? It looks like a cruise ship. Is China outfitting cruise ships at the same yard they’re building their aircraft carrier?
It looks like a memory card, the fricking thing.
Unironically, why are all of your threads like this?
can't see shit, is everything in china this hard to see through the smog?
Beijing can have worse visibility than Superman 64.
>a thing has happened on a ship that's been under construction for a decade
>Quick make a thread about it