>Czech's were trialing it out and it shit itself
it was in Slovakia, it got no points in many of the rated categories because no proper documentation was provided
Is the gun stabilized?
yes
https://i.imgur.com/HJnbi16.jpg
How is the Borsuk?
good in its weight class, not as good as modern heavy IFVs, MoD wanted to make it amphibious because muh BMP-1 tactics and muh tank deep fording. Allegedly there will be another 40-50 ton class IFV based on K9 chassis to supplement the lighter ones
probably thought the results would speak for themselves
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Probably would, just like piorun which was bought by slovaks after similar trial.
I don't think borsuk even arrived. They send their candidature for the lulz (probably to signal that it's almost ready or some shit)
its kinda amazing that they sent no documentation with it
This entire thing is fricking weird, it seems like slovaks just put it on their list for the lulz. Im pretty sure it was going through tests in poland at the time so obviously they wouldnt send it away for foreign trials and i doubt anyone would even think about exports when poles want 1k of those things for themselves
RusBlack personian vatniks can actually blow up bridge BECAUSE (in theory) all their soviet junk equipment is amphibious (aka it was when it was brand new and all the rubber seals still were elastic instead of solid and brittle)
See those gorillions tiny rivers close to north-east border here?
https://i.imgur.com/A6Xwe2r.png
It is a mystery.
Those marshes is where rusBlack folk would be attacking from (kaliningrad-suwalki gap-belarus area) hence you want equipment that can operate and fight in there.
Pic related is hows most of the terrain in that area
Poland has 42k bridges, homie. Amphibious capabilities provide many tactical advantages, but it seems that even the army is starting to doubt if armor protection downgrade was worth it
Poland has 42k bridges, homie. Amphibious capabilities provide many tactical advantages, but it seems that even the army is starting to doubt if armor protection downgrade was worth it
>homie
I bet it's 100% European people who write in this thread.
It's not even that. It's geography. USA is stuck in sand wars for half a century that's why amphibious vehicles were memory holed. Go fight a war in Eastern Europe for a year and you will change your mind.
The latest rumor is that Poland is going to get CV90 and Borsuk will only be used in the north east where it's basically Finland tier when it comes to lakes and marshes.
Not because it's bad but because making 1000 of them fast enough is unrealistic and CV90 is better.
that bad, huh?
Not the worst IFV.
I hear that the Czech's were trialing it out and it shit itself compared to the competition
Is the gun stabilized?
Its a Bushmaster, so most likely
Isn't it the hitfist turret?
It's domestic ZSSW-30 remote turret.
they dropped the Hitfist because supposedly it was "bad", but mainly because the Italians didn't let them fiddle around it nilly willy for upgrades
>Czech's were trialing it out and it shit itself
it was in Slovakia, it got no points in many of the rated categories because no proper documentation was provided
yes
good in its weight class, not as good as modern heavy IFVs, MoD wanted to make it amphibious because muh BMP-1 tactics and muh tank deep fording. Allegedly there will be another 40-50 ton class IFV based on K9 chassis to supplement the lighter ones
its kinda amazing that they sent no documentation with it
probably thought the results would speak for themselves
Probably would, just like piorun which was bought by slovaks after similar trial.
I don't think borsuk even arrived. They send their candidature for the lulz (probably to signal that it's almost ready or some shit)
This entire thing is fricking weird, it seems like slovaks just put it on their list for the lulz. Im pretty sure it was going through tests in poland at the time so obviously they wouldnt send it away for foreign trials and i doubt anyone would even think about exports when poles want 1k of those things for themselves
It never arrived for the tests.
thicc
More like boresuck.
Lightly armored and amphibious
but its so fat
>amphibious
what's even the point
The Vistula river cuts Poland in half
bridges exist and when you're defending you'll be using those. it's Russia that would have to ford them.
RusBlack personian vatniks can actually blow up bridge BECAUSE (in theory) all their soviet junk equipment is amphibious (aka it was when it was brand new and all the rubber seals still were elastic instead of solid and brittle)
See those gorillions tiny rivers close to north-east border here?
Those marshes is where rusBlack folk would be attacking from (kaliningrad-suwalki gap-belarus area) hence you want equipment that can operate and fight in there.
Pic related is hows most of the terrain in that area
nothing but the brightest posters on this fair board
It is a mystery.
Just use a bridge homie lmao damn Poles are dumb as rocks
>just use an obvious chokepoint that can be pre-sighted for any sort of ordnance strike
>Ability to cross the river at any point? useless
Poland has 42k bridges, homie. Amphibious capabilities provide many tactical advantages, but it seems that even the army is starting to doubt if armor protection downgrade was worth it
>homie
I bet it's 100% European people who write in this thread.
yeah dasrite homie, you got a problem wit dat?
Das rite, homie
Oh yeah I'm sure there are plenty of bridges near Kherson right now.
cold war doctrine - massive mech inf rushes trough marshes and rivers avoiding bottlenecks that can be nuked (literally)
It's not even that. It's geography. USA is stuck in sand wars for half a century that's why amphibious vehicles were memory holed. Go fight a war in Eastern Europe for a year and you will change your mind.
What is the modern obsession with building IFV's that only fit 6 troops inside?
IFV's are considered Intergral to the modern mechanized infantry squad. So you 9 man squads consisting of the IFV crew and 6 man dismounts
the IFV's armour, weapons, optics and equipment etc is more important than the number of dismounts
Im glad poland kept pl01 design language
The latest rumor is that Poland is going to get CV90 and Borsuk will only be used in the north east where it's basically Finland tier when it comes to lakes and marshes.
Not because it's bad but because making 1000 of them fast enough is unrealistic and CV90 is better.
That's a rumor only
>we have CV90 at home
chubby
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It's still in test phase. Allegedly in june shoud be finished testing.