>How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike? Just satellites?
Satellites, phone taps, internet taps, radio listeners, spies and I'm sure plenty of other methods that won't be declassified for 50 years. >And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
> How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike?
It came to them in a dream.
>And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
No, because then the ammo is scattered, and Russian logistics was already shit at the start of the war
>How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike?
Our vatnik friends are using civilian smartphone GPS for their day-to-day tasks, communicating on open channels without encryption, have managed to piss off the local populations who have their own tipping channels. That is without mentioning that russian military leadership has been certainly compromised by american glowies, and the few who are not directly on US payroll are disgustingly corrupted and probably sell the info on real time to anyone who asks. >And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
Maybe if they managed to do it efficiently enough, which is very unlikely.
Are you kidding?
open up adsbexchange, look around
You'll find Guard Rail flying over lithuania. > King Air fitted with a frick ton of antennas > flying elint vacuum
You'll find E-3 Sentry, usually west and SW of Ukraine > boeing 707 > airborne search radar > usually where there is E-3 you'll find several pairs of air superiority fighters (F-15, F-22, etc)
You'll also find J-STARS > again, 707 platform > amazing side looking radar > minute-of-truck resolution
You'll find Rivet Joint > again, 707 platform > super ultra mega airborne elint platform
Couple RIvet Joint with J-STARS and you can overlay elint on vehicle movement to make a very educated guess where command posts are, where units are quartering for the night, etc. > put HIMARS there
There's also P8 > 737 platform > surface search radar > elint capbilities > likes to hang out south of Ukraine and over Black Sea
And RQ-4 > big ass drone > wing span the same as 737 > launches out of sicily > flys west, then up through Bulgaria and Romania > then out over the Black Sea
These systems all talk to each other.
And they can down link targeting info to systems on the ground.
Yes, they know if they shoot down a NATO aircraft flying over a NATO country/international waters their entire shitty workforce.will be destroyed inside the next 24 hours
They're NATO aircraft flying through a NATO members airspace (or international waters). Russia can't do shit about it even if they could prove that they're supplying intelligence. Shooting down an aircraft over a NATO member's territory is a declaration of war.
>If they shot down the global hawk drones flying over the black sea claiming it was an imminent threat, they’d probably get away with it.
They're not going to convince anybody that an unarmed drone flying straight and level at 50k+ feet is an imminent threat to anything. Doesn't even pass the straight face test.
There is a demo reel of DHS able to follow a car leaving one location, trackmit across a metroplex, pick up 2 other cars it meets with, and track all 3 back to their final destinations. You think they aren't tracking giant ass military trucks leaving rail yards?
>tracking giant ass military trucks leaving rail yards
That's what JSTARS does.
Platform debuted in the Iraq war. It's been refined since. > very reasonable to assume there are Ukraine forces on the JSTARS > or at a very minimum, Ukraine linguists relaying the take
>How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike? Just satellites?
Satellites, phone taps, internet taps, radio listeners, spies and I'm sure plenty of other methods that won't be declassified for 50 years.
>And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
>I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Vatnik channels were saying they are going to split up the big ammo depots into smaller less obvious ones
Makes sense and it will help because Ukraine doesn't have unlimited guided arty.
>split up the big ammo dumps so hohols can't hit them all
Pretty smart Ivan
>lose half of them because Russian intel and logistics is so shit
Uh oh
there were were reports of russian officers trading intel for cash.
> How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike?
It came to them in a dream.
>And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
No, because then the ammo is scattered, and Russian logistics was already shit at the start of the war
>How is NATO getting their intel on where to strike?
Our vatnik friends are using civilian smartphone GPS for their day-to-day tasks, communicating on open channels without encryption, have managed to piss off the local populations who have their own tipping channels. That is without mentioning that russian military leadership has been certainly compromised by american glowies, and the few who are not directly on US payroll are disgustingly corrupted and probably sell the info on real time to anyone who asks.
>And is dispersing the ammo going to help the Russians?
Maybe if they managed to do it efficiently enough, which is very unlikely.
Are you kidding?
open up adsbexchange, look around
You'll find Guard Rail flying over lithuania.
> King Air fitted with a frick ton of antennas
> flying elint vacuum
You'll find E-3 Sentry, usually west and SW of Ukraine
> boeing 707
> airborne search radar
> usually where there is E-3 you'll find several pairs of air superiority fighters (F-15, F-22, etc)
You'll also find J-STARS
> again, 707 platform
> amazing side looking radar
> minute-of-truck resolution
You'll find Rivet Joint
> again, 707 platform
> super ultra mega airborne elint platform
Couple RIvet Joint with J-STARS and you can overlay elint on vehicle movement to make a very educated guess where command posts are, where units are quartering for the night, etc.
> put HIMARS there
There's also P8
> 737 platform
> surface search radar
> elint capbilities
> likes to hang out south of Ukraine and over Black Sea
And RQ-4
> big ass drone
> wing span the same as 737
> launches out of sicily
> flys west, then up through Bulgaria and Romania
> then out over the Black Sea
These systems all talk to each other.
And they can down link targeting info to systems on the ground.
Now maybe I’m moronic, but wouldn’t Russia know this information too? Do they just fear reprisal if they do anything about it?
Yes, they know if they shoot down a NATO aircraft flying over a NATO country/international waters their entire shitty workforce.will be destroyed inside the next 24 hours
They're NATO aircraft flying through a NATO members airspace (or international waters). Russia can't do shit about it even if they could prove that they're supplying intelligence. Shooting down an aircraft over a NATO member's territory is a declaration of war.
If they shot down the global hawk drones flying over the black sea claiming it was an imminent threat, they’d probably get away with it.
>If they shot down the global hawk drones flying over the black sea claiming it was an imminent threat, they’d probably get away with it.
They're not going to convince anybody that an unarmed drone flying straight and level at 50k+ feet is an imminent threat to anything. Doesn't even pass the straight face test.
Why shoot down spy drones when you can shoot down civilian airliners.
There is a demo reel of DHS able to follow a car leaving one location, trackmit across a metroplex, pick up 2 other cars it meets with, and track all 3 back to their final destinations. You think they aren't tracking giant ass military trucks leaving rail yards?
>tracking giant ass military trucks leaving rail yards
That's what JSTARS does.
Platform debuted in the Iraq war. It's been refined since.
> very reasonable to assume there are Ukraine forces on the JSTARS
> or at a very minimum, Ukraine linguists relaying the take
>food delivery website in east Ukraine
>use coupon "freesuprise" for 30% discount if you are getting it delivered to an ammo depot
MENTOR 4-7 satellites.
Psychic operators
Look it up, it's real
blowing up russian ammo depot's by looking at them thourhg a spy satellite intensely