How hard is it to do fence work?
I bought a house where they put a compost pile in this corner of the yard, and the fence cuts short of our property line for some reason. Can I remove that corner, cut the tree down, and drive a new post where the property stake is?
how nice is your neighbour ?
>How hard is it to do fence work?
not hard at all if you can get boots on the ground and do the work
>some reason
Utility poles sometime have ordinance about putting anything new within a few feet. Check your local regs. Even if not, fence guy was probably trying not to dig into anything the pole may be sunk with.
This is a good point. I worked for an electrical utility when I was a kid, and there was a 3' radius right of way around each pole maintained by the utility.
What does that stake represent?
Surveyors usually put a lathe near surveyed property corners so they can be easily found again (at least in the near future). In this case the surveyed corner is likely an iron pipe or rod in the ground where the paint-mark next to the lathe is.
Not likely.
Not near the corner and survey pins are usually visible with a marking post nearby.
It's orange so there's telecommunications cable buried under there.
>Not near the corner
OP indicated that that's his corner though? The fences can be encroaching or located several feet off line. I've even had someone who built a garage over the line because at one point they owned both sides and then sold the one parcel only to try to change the legal description at closing to not include the part which the garage encroached on (which also reduced the area they had agreed to be sell, the buyer threw a fit at that).
>survey pins are usually visible with a marking post nearby.
Yeah, that's what the lath is for. It's more rare to see the white stakes with red tops these days and pipes are usually down at-grade because even if you set them above grade, the owner usually will sink them because they're in the way.
>It's orange so there's telecommunications cable buried under there.
It looks more like the color of the tape on the lath, which should be pink if it's from a surveyor. I don't think I've ever seen a utility locator use lath -- they'll use flags if anything. I've seen plenty of surveyors using orange paint for their marks -- I'm guilty of it myself -- so as far as I'm concerned they do shit for following APWA. With the presence of the service pole, unless there's a leader coming down behind the pole it's more likely aerial services. Still, use caution around that if you're driving posts and call for the utility locate because sinking a post through a service line is a surefire way to ruin your day.
That would mean the pole is on the wrong property then. They take that shit pretty serious. Both fences would be off a fair bit as well.
Things are obviously different where you are. Here survey pins are 1/2" steel bar and they cannot be driven flush. The corner stakes are 4" white painted wood and marking stakes steel with a small sign, both need to be within 12" of the pin.
Lathe is by far the most common utility stake. Installed more last year than most housing contractors will ever see. Surveyors here usually make lathe tripod and tie ribbon directly to the pin, they never paint the ground.
>That would mean the pole is on the wrong property then.
Why do you assume the public utility pole cannot be on his property? I'm a little worried that it seems he called it a tree and wants to cut it down though.
Being that close to a house it's most likely a service pole. Those are on the property being serviced and typically the owners are charged either when installed or over the life of the pole.
Op here. That pole serves me and several neighbors as I recall. Why would they put it right on my property line? I can see that the fence used to extend closer to that corner.
>I can see
Can you show us?
I can report on the pole and the old fence location when I get home tonight. Thanks for the help lads
Ok, I'll bite...why? Is that little shovelful of extra dirt really worth the time and expense of moving the fence?