How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?

How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot pac2 range is 160km. I believe that is optimal range too. It is not like it immediately explodes once it hits 160km.

    The Russians as always got wienery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they could have modified an s-200 to seek the radar emisions of the a-50 but thats justmy idea

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Either they drove a patriot right to the front line, used a S-200 or played a prank on Russian AA to shoot their own plane.

        WHY YOU PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS. OUT OF ALL THE LIKELIEST POSSIBLE SAM BEING USED, S-200 IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. MIGHT AS WELL SAY THEY HIT A PLANE WITH A MODIFIED V-2

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >long range missile designed to hit bombers is at the bottom of the list of things that hit a slow moving AWACS at long range
          Okay bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ANON S-200 HAVENT BEING USED TO HIT AIR TARGET FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG. IT'S BASICALLY A WHEELESS TOCHKA NOW

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              anon russia has been using obsolete 60's designed tanks and IFV's for the past year if not longer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            that piece of shit was designed in the 60s, my brother in fricking christ

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Which would explain why the IL-22 survived, PAC-2 targets the wienerpit, not the tail section

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              A-50s were designed in the 70s, building on an airframe designed in the 60s, so what's the issue? Saying it was an S-200 isn't as wild of a claim as you think it is, especially given its range. Unlike the PAC-2, whose (declared) range is barely sufficient to hit an A-50 at 160km, the S-200 has the range for it.

              The only issue I can see is that, unlike the Patriot, the S-200 illuminates the target. As a result, I find it difficult that an AWACS didn't realise it had an S-200 gunning for it. However, picrel may explain it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >S-200 IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST

          why

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some Patriot missile variants have a Home-On-Jam function that essentially turns it into an ARM. It tracks the largest radar emitter around without ground based radar. Ukraine may have simply lofted them into the area they knew the A-50 and Il-22M were flying and let their own emissions do the rest.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Assuming the launcher still had to get very close to Russian ground forces, wouldn't they have noticed the launch and immediately made their aircraft aware that possible SAMs were just launched?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >made their aircraft aware
          I'm not making fun of you anon, but do you know how radio networks and command and control are set up at these levels? Unironically even in a US operation the first and best warning of something like this happening might come from the AEW&C plane itself.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are assuming russian soldiers with one week training know how to observe and deduce anything

          they put mobiks on the frontline to absorb bullets and professions behind and finally the barrier troops

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How would they know the difference between a SAM, a TBM, or a HIMARS rocket from 10-15km away? Who do they report it too? A huge problem for Russia in this has been their command and communication structure, which is why so many of their "epic drone videos" have so many cuts. It takes an hour for the message from the Drone operator to get to an artillery unit telling them there was a target in a location, and by the time they fire, the target has moved and they hit an empty field.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Russian rwr
          >working
          The biggest lie the East ever sold to the west is that they are good at electronic warfare. The west took this at face value and has created a military with the doctrine to devestate shitty Russian AWACS, SAMs, and counter battery radars. It’s not even a contest. Cold War leftovers can dunk on Russia’s best ELINT and EWIR shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shouldn't the plane know where the missile is because of the frickhuge radar on top?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, the vatBlack folk didn't even get a digital fricking rwr till 2012 and you think this shitheap would have anything decent?
          I'm more surprised the radome didn't pick up the launches immediately when they got up to altitude(it most likely did giving them the benefit of the doubt) but it's not like they could do much to avoid it.
          Additionally, no fricking mobik is going to be able to radio in time to their leadership, to then up tier to a group comm/oic comm/btl comm, over to another group, into the flight function, and up to the bird in that time.

          https://i.imgur.com/zKpQtTy.png

          >out own telegrams are glomohomosexual now because...THEY JUST ARE OK?!?!?!?
          ok now this is epic

          oh sorry it was the British lamo

          It was the anglos...

          https://i.imgur.com/MFOu6cG.jpg

          >the eternal anglo strikes again
          I shit on the bongs any chance I get but they do two things really fricking well
          1: Piss off russians by merely existing, they really think they're still in the great game and bongs are winning by not even playing
          2: When coalitions form, they know how to party

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Been a long time since I've seen the notch.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Glad you remember it, the good ol' days of
              >The ULTIMATE death killer tool
              >Notch
              my original drive rip-ed and I lost almost all my old edits and shit, but at least I have that one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It was reported that an su-34 was pinged by s-300 type radar and made defensive maneuvers several minutes before the awacs shootdown.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It is not like it immediately explodes once it hits 160km
      it doesn't explode but will stop guiding if the onboard power source runs out, many cold war missiles were less capable than they could based on pure kinematics due to technical limitations

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing preventing Ukies from modifying missiles by putting more modern batteries inside.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      160km+ now you are reaching the limits of your battery that powers all the electronics. no power means no guidance

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        anon. Please don't act like you know how a patriot's BMS operates. You don't. Are the most hungry systems pulsed on and off? Did the ukranian's shove supplemental units inside?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One post on twiter said they managed to combine both patriot and s300 is some kind of frankenSAM trap hence why russians keep screaming it was friendly fire

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >illuminate with S-300 radar
        >Il-22M starts jamming at max power
        >A-50 continues tracking via radar
        >Fire Patriots set to home on jam
        >Russians continue trying to jam, believing it's a Semi-Active or Active missile
        >Blyat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I can believe this. Especially because they could have easily tested this before by illuminating the planes without missiles ready and seeing how long they tried to jam. Then scoot before they can retaliate.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        for western trained troops I believe it
        this kind of tactical layerered attack bullshit is exactly the kind of thing every european force gets taught atleast

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Apologize.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PAC2 is effective against things it was meant for. Shocking.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >soviet shit is marketed for x
          >soviet shit is proven to fail at x
          >insert cope here
          every time
          >western shit marketed for x
          >western shit is proven to do x
          >why yes ofc it was designed to do x duh no surprises here
          You see, we're only pointing out that Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing weren't lying

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone was kneeling out of respect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Patriot pac2 range is 160km. I believe that is optimal range too. It is not like it immediately explodes once it hits 160km.

      Not optimal range, but declasified range. USA usually undersell their eqipment capabilities even if they outgun everyone else. I wont be shocked if actual effective range is closer to 200 km and maximum is in 300ish.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        AIM-120C8 range is nearly 350km, although officially 160km, but someone shot a drone down at 260km

        Ameribros always understate so that others actually turn up for a fight

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And in DCS the supposed realistic flight Sim AIM-120s are lucky to hit anything from more than 40km away and radars constantly drop lock for no reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >AIM-120C8 range is nearly 350km, although officially 160km, but someone shot a drone down at 260km
          the frick? got a source on that? what the hell would the range on teh AIM-260 be then? Since what you said vastly outranges the supposed range of it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >AIM-120C8 range is nearly 350km
          You just made that up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What's not made up is that the longest ever air-to-air shot was done with an AIM-120D fired by an F-15C. We can safely assume, then, that it has a longer range than the Meteor or PL-15.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you seriously think a Patriot was set up ON the front line?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick meant to reply to

      Patriot pac2 range is 160km. I believe that is optimal range too. It is not like it immediately explodes once it hits 160km.

      The Russians as always got wienery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need the radar on the front line. Just the launcher. Unless I'm a moron.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Having the launcher on the frontline is a gigantic risk and even with how moronic Russians are unlikely to go unnoticed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >unlikely to go unnoticed
          Based on what? Your hopes and dreams? The Ukrainians have been driving around their HIMARS launchers with Christmas lights on them and the Russians haven't noticed.
          https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1609678603456839686

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Assuming the launcher still had to get very close to Russian ground forces, wouldn't they have noticed the launch and immediately made their aircraft aware that possible SAMs were just launched?

          If it was indeed Patriot, launcher would be accross of what used to be Kakhovka reservoir from russians, this area must be the safest place to be on what is considered frontline, 10-15 miles to the nearest russian position.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are areas under Ukrainian control in Zaporizhia Oblast that are much close than the point you have in that pic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I just read something on Forbes about how they might have used a S300 radar to ping the target and potentially take the flak

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the launcher
          >the
          You mean this small trailer with 4 disposable tubes?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just drive it there, set up, shoot, then drive away. The entire Russian military has no counter for this tactic. I'm not kidding.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn’t that happen earlier?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boris Johnson shooting it down with a Starstreak from a Gyrocopter

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because it was friendly fire oopsie*~~

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?

      >because it was friendly fire oopsie

      Ukraine didn't I know it's me but it's the simplest explanation Russia really is just legitimately that bad. There's an even chance they really did lose the Moscow in engine fire.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good job swallowing Russian propaganda hook line and sinker

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Good job swallowing Russian propaganda hook line and sinker

          That they shoot down they're own planes and lose their main flag ship via gross incompetency? Man must be all service of a really clever feint.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That they shoot down they're own planes and lose their main flag ship via gross incompetency?
            yes, that's what Russia wants other to believe, how hard is to get it through some people skull

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              We they successfully convinced me. NotImmunetopropaganda.jpeg. Okay sure, it was lossed entirely due to Ukrainian daring do.

              I'm sure it was also crafty saboteur double agents who were redirecting trillions of rubles into off shore accounts from Russian army funds as well for decades as well.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's just cognitive dissonance for people who don't understand the russian media machine. They absolutely cannot admit that their technology is bad and are willing to gulag anyone and everyone as scapegoats when these things happen. In their mind superior russian SAM killed their own amazing AWACS by accident because of some poor officer who will now be blamed and that sounds better than the enemy hitting their super duper awesome plane.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what Russian wants others to believe. That is what the RU Military actually believes. If you're in the RU military and you say for example, the Moskva got hit by the Ukrainians you get punished. All these bullshit narratives are done by the RU Ministry of Defense and fed to the RU Military as what actually happened and they're expected to not only believe it, but at least act as if they believe it.

              Which means they plan their actions based on this bullshit. There are telegram messages of RU troops complaining about how the RU Air Force is looking for the men who shot down the A-50 by accident to punish them. That's how deep the bullshit goes. And you know that if they don't "find them", they'll just make someone be the ones responsible for shooting it down.

              People at this point still don't get how Russia works.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Which means they plan their actions based on this bullshit
                they don't

                https://i.imgur.com/jV1D4tb.jpg

                >no SU-34 wreckage
                >"well that was several planes and yet no single bit of wreckage guess it never happened ;*~~*~~))"
                Let us use some logical reasoning given the aftermath, a rarity for you disgusting brown animals like yourself I know, but do hold on.

                Why is the replacement A-50 refusing to go over the sea and only flying around Krasnodar if there is no problem? That's limiting the early warning capabilities quite badly, so why do that?

                they know that Ukraine shot it down, same with Moskva, which is why they modified their patrols knowing that Ukraine CAN shoot the next one down.
                However they HAVE TO act as if they shot it down, they have to look for someone who shot it down, otherwise they lose face

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >otherwise they lose face
                what face?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You understand that them doing what you describe means that eventually they're going to act as if they were the ones who shot it down right? At least it won't be the same Russians but eventually they will go back to patrolling the same place they're now staying away from.

                The RU military doesn't learn from its mistakes because it institutionally doesn't admit mistakes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black sea fleet learned it's lesson

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just luck 😉

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of emergency bailout procedures does a Russian AWACS have?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      jump out and aim for deep snow

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol. Lmao.

      Shouldn't the plane know where the missile is because of the frickhuge radar on top?

      Anon, that radar is for other zigger assets, not the plane itself. Or maybe Colonel Vodkavich sold something for scrap money.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They sent a fake POW on board to crash it with no survivors.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the FrankenSAM theory an anon put out in another thread.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Either they drove a patriot right to the front line, used a S-200 or played a prank on Russian AA to shoot their own plane.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >F-16 pilots trained in the UK are sent back to Ukraine
    >Russia starts losing a lot of aircraft behind the lines
    I have no idea what could have possibly done this, maybe the smoker?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There'd be photos and videos of F16s in action already if this were the case.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >photos and videos
        If they are hunting AWACS they are going to be high and fast to get the max range out of the AIM-120, you'll never know there was a plane at 50,000 from the ground.
        This only leaves landing and takeoff where they could be filmed and the Ukies have done pretty good opsec the whole war.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if they would be able to do it again

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The real question is, how soon can they do it again?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The real question is, how soon can they do it again?

      https://i.imgur.com/EvMhxk9.png

      [...]

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is, how soon can they do it again?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please have mercy. Putin already trashed the chairs, that poor long table will be next if another shotdown happens...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They have like...six more of these? Should be a week, but they certainly are gonna be more cautious about using it, which means less radar coverage

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt they have actually the crews to operate 6 A-50s.
        Ukraine probably killed the most skilled ones, and a reserve group is currently deliberating whether it’s safe for them to operate near Ukraine.
        It won’t matter, in a few weeks the Air Defense situation will become dire enough that another A-50 will be called up regardless.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's old and unreliable. The radar itself probably hasn't receive any upgrade since fifty years ago

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Frick meant for

            https://i.imgur.com/NtgsG1H.jpg

            >S-200 IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST

            why

            anon russia has been using obsolete 60's designed tanks and IFV's for the past year if not longer

            Yes but with semi active guidance system with shitass radar it's kinda tricky

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Old and unreliable
            They had 2 years to improve it, in all likelihood they refurbished and modified a few to hunt the big whales.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They spent two years to convert it to hit ground target instead. They tried to refurbish it a decade ago along with other sams like S-300s, and buks but it was deemed be too old

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it was deemed be too old
                That was before the entire society was mobilized for war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                By 2015 they already entered the war prep mode

                https://i.imgur.com/9BzbMu5.jpg

                >radar itself probably hasn't receive any upgrade since fifty years ago

                Ziggers claimed they were irradiated with an s-300 before the fun started. Why is it, in your mind, easier to network a cutting edge USA Patriot with old slavshit s-300 than that same old slavshit with even older slavshit, BY THE COUNTRY THAT USED TO MAKE THE RADARS?

                I didn't say that, my point being the culprit could be a lot of thing but the S-200. I don't believe it was a frankenSAM either, missile system isn't exactly plug and play even if it's belong to the same line of family

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >radar itself probably hasn't receive any upgrade since fifty years ago

            Ziggers claimed they were irradiated with an s-300 before the fun started. Why is it, in your mind, easier to network a cutting edge USA Patriot with old slavshit s-300 than that same old slavshit with even older slavshit, BY THE COUNTRY THAT USED TO MAKE THE RADARS?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine got some Patriot batteries so they moved one to Orkhiv, and another in Kherson. Its' not that complicated. They started shooting high priced jets out of the sky since then.

    This is slowly shifting air dominance towards Ukraine. They're going to keep destroying irreplaceable Russian air assets, air defenses, then keep putting more and more of their upcoming F-16's in the sky. They will slowly be able to hit farther and farther as Russian air defenses degrade.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything’s possible when you are lying

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we're shooting down our own AWACS because.....WE JUST ARE OK?!?!?!?
      ok now this is epic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There no evidence it was shot down

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So it just crashed all by itself? Why did the Il-22 have shrapnel holes?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why did the Il-22 have shrapnel holes?
            that picture was faked

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              like your life

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Understand, our incompetence is less embarrasing then if the fricking xoxols did it

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly, in this case, incompetence is probably a happier explanation than the alternative. That being “Ukraine can now destroy our airborne C2 nodes with impunity, hundreds of kilometers behind the front line and our air defense”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There’s no evidence it even crashed

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              even russian channels confirm it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Confirmed with what?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's gone, they just try to blame it on friendly fire
                https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15407

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are right anon. Plane wasn't recovered = it didn't happen
              This is called eternal flight. The plane is still out there, flying with our hopes and dreams.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just like there was no evidence of that Antonov full of veeee deee vveee that got shot down in the early days of the war uh?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >out own telegrams are glomohomosexual now because...THEY JUST ARE OK?!?!?!?
          ok now this is epic

          oh sorry it was the British lamo

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            10/10 schizo babble

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is honestly fascinating how fricking nuts the fanfic of a lot of this stuff is. The desperation to attribute any undeniable Ukrainian success to foreign actors in particular. The fricking SAS was involved in a shootdown? What, did they guide the missiles in by eye?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Krokodile is hell of a drug.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >What, did they guide the missiles in by eye?
              Possibly

              ?feature=shared&t=38

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The most horrifying thing about this war isn’t the threat (re. increasing inevitability) of a nuclear exchange or the atrocities. Such things are par for the course and are to be expected to a degree.

              It’s how an entire nation of people can become completely disconnected from reality. This isn’t the propaganda of Nazi Germany or even the Soviet Union where they had mass brainwashing and information deprivation (removing all forms of communication with the outside world that conflict with “the message”) refined down to a science. This is the political equivalent of reading CWC’s rants about Sonichu and the Dimensional Merge and taking them at face value.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's really incredible, and frightening. Like, I could understand the average North Korean being completely disconnected from reality. But Russians have literally no excuses. Not in this day and age.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >But Russians have literally no excuses. Not in this day and age.
                vodka

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                INKED.COM

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think in this day and age we have finally come to the realization of just how dumb we are, especially when not educated on how to think critically, consider the bigger picture, and detach our logical reasoning from our emotions.

                Of course some societies have far more of these people than others.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How ironic. Education does not confer critical thinking skills. You're brainwashed yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >CWC’s rants about Sonichu and the Dimensional Merge
                You just described the entire western ideology following the cold war.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >22 SAS specialists took part
            The perfidious Anglo-Saxons strike again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy frick.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are Russians so fixated on British posturing? Why not Finish or Baltic special forces? Do Anglos live in their head for some reason?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I honestly think it's so they can convince the Indian shit posters to keep working for the losing team.

              >Ukraine? No. we're not at war with Ukraine. We're at war with those damn British.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The British forever ruined Russia's version of Belt and Road Initiative more than a hundred years ago.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the bongs ran rings around them whenever their empires got in one another's way
              >unlike other historical enemies, this means they never scored a comparable victory to cope about getting even with
              >anyone wanting to consider Russia "superior" must therefore find a way to rationalize their unsettled score with such a tiny nation
              >somewhere between then and now, this has somehow caused elements of society to view the British in the same way that /misc/ views that one religion with the little hats

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They've correctly identified UK as the main belligerent in political and material opposition in Europe. They're counting on Trump doing the work in the US for them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They're trying to convince Africans and Arabs that British SF and glowies are behind all the problems in their country so Russia can send PMCs to seize their natural resources

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              crimean war and other humiliations. Russkies got buckbroken by bongs which is all the worse when you account for the tiny size of the island nation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair they were fighting France and the Ottomans too, and UK public opinion turned massively against the war for its cost in lives and cash. If the Russians had done a better job against the Turks and had the backbone to keep fighting they might have been able to wait out Britain. But they didn’t have the stability for it either.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Do Anglos live in their head for some reason?
              Anglos colonize whatever the frick we feel like. Your land, your seas, and even your nightmares.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Manpads
            A-are there manpads that can shoot that far up? What are those anglos hiding?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Deep-Prime Minister of the Anglo-Saxon Empire Boris Johnson was shot out of a cannon to reach higher altitude, before shooting a starstreak launcher out of another starstreak launcher to double its effective range.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anything to make Starstreak not look like shit, huh?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is that you, warriortard?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >he doesnt know about the British intercontinental ballistic manpads

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >InterContinental British Manpads
                At last I truly see.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's called starstreak because the missile can streak through the stars

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Britain is the boogieman in the dark recesses of every Russians mind, responsible for all the evils done against them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >congratulations Boris Johnson, you've got yourself caught, what's the next step of your master plan

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How far did the wiener go up his ass from him to spew such a kokrodil induced drivel?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So far up that the pidor fricking him had his ass in the ass

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Reports are saying Boris Johnson crashed the plane from inside and then parachuted out.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >V. Zelensky and A. Ermak

            ERMAC is fighting for Ukraine and working with the SAS to shoot down Russian aircraft?

            Why are Russians so fixated on British posturing? Why not Finish or Baltic special forces? Do Anglos live in their head for some reason?

            The Great Game. China wasn't the only nation gave a century of Humiliation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, no evidence except all those Russia telegram channels lamenting the fact that it was shot down.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Russia announced the replacement being moved up to Rostov two days after it happened.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah boris johnson himself snuck onto the plane and took control of it rambo style before ramming it into the ocean

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, the times

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but russia already shot down dozens of their own jets in the past

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >— an unknown air defense system with missiles and elements from Patriot
    We had a thread that speculated the S-300 radar is being mated with Patriot launch elements the other day, given the radars for the Patriot are the most limited resource, so being able to replace that with something on hand (and not being much used at this point given Ukraine's limited S-300 interceptor stocks) would prove valuable to any "frankenSAM" project.

    That seems to be the case, among other pairs of western missile + Soviet radar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We had a thread that speculated the S-300 radar is being mated with Patriot launch elements the other day, given the radars for the Patriot are the most limited resource
      Didn't a Russkie Sukhoi operating in the same area over the Azov sea complain of getting lit up by an S-300 radar? We might have found our culprit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't mean what's tracking the Russians is the same system SPO-32 picks up
        Ukies have all kinds of threat emitters from the US that can simulate S300's radar emissions. Possibly to mask other radars the Russians don't have good ELINT data for

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >guys there are no 4K photos of those SUs shot down last month
    >therefore it never happened ;*~~*~~*~~))
    imagine being more delusional than vatnik telegrams

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you realize this is why even russian propagandists make fun of you right?
    holy shit you guys are moronic lmao.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE TELEGRAMS
    >THEY ALWAYS LIEEEEE AIIEEEEEEEEE
    anyway see you at the eventual tribute. probably not going to happen until the weather improves though. brown-outs are as much a problem in Russia as they are on /k/ right now

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    i would agree with you, only on the condition that you and your lackeys now dismiss anything and everything that any russian propaganda channel foreign or non-foreign has ever, and will ever spit out. and accept that none of it is true.

    if you can do that, it's settled, but no slinking back on the deal, you little snake, you. :^)

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    bro don't be so frantic, you can cope once per hour, you don't have to cope once every 5 minutes, you look really desperate.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    as long as it's bad for russia, as soon as it becomes good for russia though, you switch back around to your usual self and all of those russian telegrams are now accurate information sources again. funny how that works.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminds me of when all the vatniks were like
    >rybar who? never heard of her ;*~~*~~
    >not a real source, it's globohomosexual ;*~~*~~)
    when the wagner losses started to come in
    they did that with greyzone too recently. Think it was about one of the ships that got blown out.

    vatniks really aren't a loyal bunch. Z-telegrams start saying unflattering things and all of a sudden they're run by gay nazi israelites

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is how it always is, the picosecond Glorious Leader dies he stops being a hero and it turns out he was actually a western spy and pest all along.
      Russia is simply a country of cowards. It's arguably not even their fault, anyone with a spine either flees the country as soon as possible or gets crushed by cowards terrified of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Historically the intelligentsia is always a target for elimination and control by totalitarianist regimes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reminds me of when all the vatniks were like
      who? never heard of her ;*~~*~~

      That was me one time, I was being sarcastic and Oblast-posting. One of those cases where the sarcasm didn't carry over the internet well. Jannies even cleaned up my shitpost but I wasn't v& for it.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this much damage control
    Both really did crash, didn't they?

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >it's fake REEEEE
    Yeah, like ziggers haven't been claiming they killed SAS, HATO generals and Boris Johnson clones since the start of the three days special operation two years ago

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't flying 160km from the frontline.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >giant telegram channels that have been around since the start of the war are now "fake"

    i couldn't make this shit up if i tried, it's just too ridiculous the lengths these guys will go to, to cope with their reality.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still maintain it was an S-200, simply because Ukies have launched them in anger at Russian targets before, because I know nothing about radar and control theory but it I imagine it is easier to network old soviet shit with less old soviet shit than with a patriot, because an s-200 is less valuable than a patriot, and because funni.

    An old soviet anti-AWACS missile waxing today's Russia's AWACS makes me smile.

    I understand the patriotic Patriot chest thumpers shouting USA USA USA USA, but I still want it to be museum junk that has sat outside for decades and painted child-friendly colors for children to climb all over to be the thing that did it.

    .t did it as a kid, but with t-55s.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anon, Moscow could be in flames and 90% ethnic Russians could be dead and they would still claim that victory was near.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This feels like when the flagship of the Black Sea fleet got whacked and it eventually led to them losing control over snake island and surrounding area, I hope this is a trend.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    F-22

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HARM

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WITH MIND BULLETS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's telekinesis, Kyle!

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly dont believe any info coming out anymore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody cares what you believe, Ivan, not even your own government. You will go into the meat cube regardless for the greater glory of Putin's yachts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever you like.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        russian tanks ability to catastrophically explode makes it really hard to identify what killed them, any penetration to the ammo rack results in the same anihilation

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This one was probably some kind of atgm, you can see a projectile coming in from the left if you go frame by frame.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >really hard to identify what killed them, any penetration to the ammo rack results in the same anihilation

          Eh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >T90
        >TNT
        What's the difference?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          one is actually pretty safe as it is hard to accidentally detonate, the other one is a russian tank

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I read this in Duke Nukem's voice and thought it was pretty hilarious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Russian explosives are actually a lot more volatile because they use a mixture of TNT, RDX, and powdered aluminum. Extremely high yield and extremely sensitive, and they tend to carry a full carousel (22 rounds) of HE frag.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they tend to carry a full carousel

            they stopped doing that for the TOS. Just saying.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Designed to take out the tankers and anyone close by instantaneously.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Was there any info on what hit this tank? Being a russian shitbox it could well be anything bigger than a wet fart, but would still be good to know.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Unknown atgm hit to the side. Redeffect has a video on it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mig29-project-wingman.gif
      The absolute state of /k/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it is a mig
        its project wingman
        its the 9th gif of a mig21 on my computer

        simple as

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    say SORRY, PATRIOT
    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1747664472209052088
    >Zelensky: "Patriot" is the most effective Air Defence system in the world today ... I must bow deeply to its creators ... Both Russians and our partners are in shock."

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    TEAM S-200 ASSEMBLE. DON'T LET THE PATRIOTgayS CONTROL THE NARRATIVE.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't get shot down it intercepted ukop nazi holhol missile and destroyed it.

    This is outside the mission perimiter of an AWACS so russian engineuity and innovation wins again.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia for centuries:
    Our Sxxx systems are simply unmatched by anything, we need to stop them from locking onto f35's that are yet to be produced they are so effective
    >Reality
    This mid AA from red alert 2 shits on everything russia has ever made or will make this century.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot-sama wanted us to kneel again

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There might be only two A-50s that aren't in need of repairs and overhaul

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/16/ukrainian-crews-set-a-complex-missile-trap-for-russias-best-radar-plane

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was the anglos...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am ded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How exactly

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    MIM-23 Hawk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking love that weapons from my era of service finally get to kill (Neo)Soviets. It brings a tear (if precum counts) to my penis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM, I WANT YOU IN MY ROOM

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine
    Bold of you to assume Ivan Conscript didn't shoot it down thinking it was a civilian airliner.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia lost its flagship to a country without a navy.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A-50 flying in predictable patterns at the edge of the Patriot’s range for a long period of time, get one close to the front line and ambush it, even at long range it’s a big fat target that won’t be evading. Same way the Serbians claim to have beaten the US in a war.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They probably smuggled something across the river and had targeting assistance from the NATO AWACS in the black sea. The front line is too large to effectively police to the point where meeting up with a trucker is kind of easy actually.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?

    Flying this close to the frontline certainly helped. But in theory such a flying radar should have seen it coming, should have been able to avoid it and should have an fighter escort to take care of any thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >should have been able to avoid it
      How do you propose a cargo aircraft with a fricking great big frisbee on its back is supposed to avoid a missile coming down from the heavens at Mach 2?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you should see it coming from 200km away, this should give you time for countermeasures, if you got any

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >countermeasures
          >PAC-2 home-on-jam option
          yes please

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sorry anon I don't mean to sound like a dick but you need to do some basic reading if you want to discuss this stuff seriously.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just turn your radar and engines off and glide to low altitudes until you restart the machine duh

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    S200, it could only be S200
    Too close to the frontline for patriot

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/3KHr0wM.png

      Interesting

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/3KHr0wM.png

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/3KHr0wM.png

      Lmao this is good to show that when the RU Ministry of Defense says that for example, the Moskva went down due to a smoking accident, that's what they send out and what they act upon inside the Ministry of Defense and inside the RU Armed Forces.

      This should be obvious as thats one of the purposes of bullshit narratives like that but people for some reason think the actual RU military acts as if "everyone knows" the reality behind the A-50 shotdown or the Moskva getting blown but no, they act as if their own bullshit is real and if you don't you get punished.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know shit about radar technologies and shit. How does a plane knows it has been locked on by another plane (before the plane locking on even fired anything at the locked-on plane)?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a little Chinaman in the nose of the plane with a pair of binoculars and when he sees a missile coming he pulls on a string which rings a bell in the wienerpit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's active and passive radar. Active radar is literally shooting shit at something and the recipient KNOWS this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      radar-guided missiles need to constantly have radar waves shot at the target to “paint” it and track where it is so the missile can guide itself to the target
      the target merely has sensors on it that can tell when radar of a specific frequency or wavelength is being shot at it; therefore if those sensors go off it means someone is tracking your position with a radar
      different types of guidance (ex: infared/heat-seekers) need different types of detection methods and countermeasures

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >how
    they didnt
    if there was a il 76 flying this close to the shore at cruising alt there is bound to be someone that took a video of it falling into the water

    call me when someone post it
    (nevermind the fact that the author suggest that the s300 is intralinked with the patriot system which cannot happen)

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just as still call bullshit about the 2 il 76s ukraine downed outside of kiev with the 700 vdvs on it
    i will still call this bs given that again happened on a pretty convinient area

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >how
      they didnt
      if there was a il 76 flying this close to the shore at cruising alt there is bound to be someone that took a video of it falling into the water

      call me when someone post it
      (nevermind the fact that the author suggest that the s300 is intralinked with the patriot system which cannot happen)

      How do you deal with both Russian and Ukrainian sources (fighter-bomber amongst them) accepting the fact, as well as pictures of the shrapnelld il-22 appearing?

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A redditor theorized ukes used MALDs masquerading as stormshadows. When the A50 locked them and fed their info the ground based AA, the MALDs led the Russian missiles into the A50.

    Ukes baited ruzzians into shooting down their own planes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fricking moronic redditor, I don't think that's how any of this works
      (no offense to you dear anon)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        MALDs have been used to support stormshadow strikes before haven't they?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not a networked A2A warfare expert, but
          >A50 locked
          it's not a targeting radar
          >russians doing anything networked
          doubtful
          >MALDs leading russian missiles to A50
          lol, just overall 60 IQ take. anyway you aren't that redditor are you??

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah but I am just as moronic about this sort of technology

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is some stupid schizo variation of the AMRAAM theory. Detecting Su-24 lobbing Storm Shadows is one of the main jobs of A-50 there. And the ruskies had closed the Kerch bridge at the time which is the safety protocol for Storm Shadow launches. So the theory is that the ukies distracted the A-50 with MALD spam and hit them with AMRAAM Black person-rigged to Su-27.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >When the A50 locked them and fed their info the ground based AA, the MALDs led the Russian missiles into the A50

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bros can someone explain the russian thing about claiming to be moronic, instead of acknowledging the enemy got you? For westerners it would just be used drum up animosity, but russians somehow believe its better optics to claim incompetency in the most inexcusable ways.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Massive inferiority complex and resentment masked by "RUSSIA STRONK" chest-thumping
      They can't admit their own inferiority to themselves, the psychological price would be too high

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because Russia Stronk.
      If your enemy can strike you with impunity, you weren't strong enough to stop them, but if you hurt yourself in an accident, these things regrettably happen from time to time. It's the same reason why they say "We retreated to better defensive positions after inflicting heavy casualties upon the enemy" when talking about the disorganized rout from Kharkiv Oblast, or call the northern front collapsing a fient. They can never admit to being weak, to losing because of that weakness, because Russia Stronk.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't have to pay the same benefits to families whose sons die in accidents rather than combat with the enemy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at the thread the cause is either
        A. they shot it down with american shit and
        a soviet missle
        B. They shot it down with older soviet shit and a soviet missle
        C. They shot their own plane down themselves (moronic radio operator)
        D. The patriot system against expectations of the Ukrainians, Russians and Americans is actually capable of shooting a plane down at 160km+
        E. F-16 have already arrived in Ukraine and have shot down the plane under stealth.

        Personally I'm going for D; the unexpected power of americans strongest AA would be the stuff that punches through their most valuable and necessary asset. Besides the Ukrainians and Americans would announce the deployment of F-16 to the media like they've done before with other weapons

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this war is just a giant advertisement for american weapons. It honestly boggles the mind that republicucks are trying to stop free advertis- I mean, aid

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How did the ghost of kiev shoot down 5 russian jets?

    Same answer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      false flag to make vatniks look moronic or brown
      call it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      By being an entire air force that survived the initial attack which Russia claimed wiped them out rather than just one plane.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't. Xoxols cannot help but lie and try to grasp at propaganda victories as their country collapses around them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's your own spreaders of propaganda on telegram confirming that it happened.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Desperate xoxol agents pretending to speak with authority.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >join air force dreaming of becoming the next top gun ace fighter ultra chad alpha male
    >get assigned to the flying microwave oven than fries your balls on a daily basis until they look like raisins
    >"at l-least I'm s-safe"
    >get shot down
    Why is the demiurge so cruel?

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chairs status?

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in any case it's an embarrassment and a big loss for Russian air forces

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PAC-2 being used at its maximum range. It's likely more than 160km.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine didn't shoot it down

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kiev still hasn't provided any proof of shooting down two IL-76 dropping paratroopers on Hostomel in February 2022.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AN-26.
      The RU MoD acknowledged the death of the crew, pilots, etc last year, about 16 months after the fact.
      The UKR MoD gave no comment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i do think we ended up getting video of one of them, i don't think i have it saved on this computer, but i'll go and take a look.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please stop, proofposting is so 2014.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The ambiguity and proofs shit worked. We and even leadership spent SO much time debating whether the Russians were in Donetsk and Luhansk that we never moved to the next step of what to do about it. Russia actually made the mistake of actually invading.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?
    when russia claims its invincible air defense system has 300 km range it is probably about 30 km in reality

    when usa claims the patriot has 100 miles range ir probably means about 200 miles

    pic: saved by s300

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pic related
    LMAO, the absolute state of russian army and air "force"

    i would rip it apart but i dont even know where to begin

    it probably doesnt even work in the sense that it provides additional info on top of the ground radars, so instead they just use is as psychological warfare tool

  67. 1 month ago
    äää

    here's that same a50 on the first day of the invasion

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cant fine the post, but apparently wife of main pilot confirmed his death and said that they are considered "missing" with 9 more crew memebers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol, good. Zigger sows and grubs should get nothing.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How exactly did Ukraine shoot down one of these flying about 160km from the frontline?
    It appeared in Russia propaganda, therefore immediately painting a target on it for Ukrainian to unleash mystical force that beat any odds.
    I'm hoping the Russian make a huge deal of that one bridge again so it is destroyed the next day.

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't worry about it

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you'd think that after a week even /k/eddit would start to question whether it was shot down anywhere outside telegram. it's a big plane, the debris would be all over the place, surely there would be some satellite footage at least.

    but then again, some specimen on here have claimed that ukraine still holds soledar for months after it had fallen. some specimen here probably believe that there's ukraine's counter offensive still going on

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no SU-34 wreckage
      >"well that was several planes and yet no single bit of wreckage guess it never happened ;*~~*~~))"
      Let us use some logical reasoning given the aftermath, a rarity for you disgusting brown animals like yourself I know, but do hold on.

      Why is the replacement A-50 refusing to go over the sea and only flying around Krasnodar if there is no problem? That's limiting the early warning capabilities quite badly, so why do that?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They are just hiding from Crimean republic air defense

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lies no proof
    Captain Kisilev Vyacheslav Alexandrovich
    Born July 27, 1987
    Uchaly, Republic of Bashkortostan
    Su-34 pilot

    Fertilizer
    https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1748679939123970327

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That guy was one of the pilots of one of the jets shot down in december and in 2022 landed a burning plane. Motherfricker was real good.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fisrt obituaries from IL porks started to pour.

    The IL-22M managed to land but not without casualties

    Major Viktor Klymov, he commanded the crew of the IL-22M and died on January 14.
    https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1748837705520214049

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    enemy cannot shoot plane down without consent. patriot now useless*~~

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