How does the Russian military cope with the fact they have 3 times more deaths than Ukraine?
I thought Russia was supposed to be the 2nd best military on earth.
How does the Russian military cope with the fact they have 3 times more deaths than Ukraine?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/24/wagner-head-warns-of-revolution-after-claiming-20000-fighters-killed-in-bakhmut
This doesn't count the 20k dead in Bakhmut alone or is that separate?
sunno, what it definetly doesn't count is the donbabwe/luganda male genocide. Do it again, Ukies!
>UKRAINE IS HECKIN BASED AND KEEPS GENOCIDING US
>Genociding Us
way to out yourself Donbabwe kek
havn't been human wave sacraficed yet? lucky man
Ukraine didn't do anything to them except fight the soldiers. It's the Russians who threw them into the cucks vans, gave them a shovel and told them to destroy the tanks with said shovel.
That they choose to attempt it is on them, so objectively speaking you can only really blame Russia for using them as meat waves or the breakaway provinces for not wising up and surrendering.
They cope posting 62194 threads of the dozen bradleys and seven leos destroyed. But then they realize they lost another village, cry, and post the same pics again.
This gets even worse when you realize that the crews of these vehicels all got out while the Russians literally sit in their trenches either getting overrun or being outflanked.
Russias only cope is to say it's not true. But theoretically if it was true would they admit they are fricked? After all I they have to lie and deny it means it must be real bad right?
>2nd best military
Lol not after this fiasco, and I dare say if China fricks around in taiwan we will find out they are a paper tiger too. American century continuing unhindered.
>two consecutive American centuries
This is why Theodore Roosevelt is my favorite president
What's with the recent increase in Russian shills?
Why are they seething?
A lot of it is often driven by random domestic bullshit as much as any specific military goof. Something happens in Russia that might be embarrassing for Putin or whatever so all his shills start screeching about anything and everything else.
Russian lives hold no value.
>3 times
Where do you see that?
If you take the medium of each it comes up to about 2.6 to 1
>the medium
Esl or statslet?
>Comes up to less than 3 to 1
Yes exactly
We did it sizzsters. We only have 2.6 times the deaths of Ukraine!
Yes on the defense and less than 2 to 1 the casualties
>less than
I see you are horrible at math.
Show me that reddit math :^)
ESL Black
Hey man. I know you are bad at math but 2.6 is bigger than 2. I know this is hard for you Russians but please believe me.
Yup i think we peremoga now sisters
So this is how the Russian military copes
>/kedditor is under the impression he's talking to the russian military
No. Just the Russian shill department which copes for the Russian military.
I understand you need usernames to keep up, you should try reddit you're probably familiar with it 😉
So the official Russian military cope is to say the name reddit over and over?
I don't think this copying strategy will work long term friend.
>Nafo defense league is still hallucinating she's talking to the russiam army
So Russia is losing 2.6 times more people than Ukraine and this is ok because?
so it wasn't a 3 to 1 ratio like you claimed lmao
/k/ope is so delicious lmao
btw did you know ukrainians are surrendering en masse to avoid being killed? so much for winning huh?
We did it zizzterz, we are only losing 2.6 times more men than Ukraine!
hey can you explain why ukrainians are surrendering if russians are dying and losing?
So your cope now is to try to change the subject. This is getting pretty sad. I'm really sorry about the 2.6 dead Russians for every 1 Ukrainian
no it's still relevant actually!
see if the russians were suffering more casualties than the ukrainians, then your average ukrainian grunt wouldn't feel the need to surrender just to save his own life! lmao
so that means ukrainians are the ones with more casualties, despite whatever cope you come up with lol
See. More deflection and cope.
whatever helps you cope sweetie
see if russians were surrendering on masse they wouldn't have captured bakhmut 😉
Hey man I see your cope. But that doesn't help explain why Russia has 2.6 more deaths than Ukraine.
hmm down from you're original claim that it was a 3 to 1 ratio..? and what is it actually? a 2.6 to 2 ratio? lol
no this is cope from you guys lmao
>russia gaining more land
>UA offensive failing despite the hype surrounding it
lol and all you guys can do is what? point out supposedly higher casualties of the ruskie army from a flimsy source?
again /k/ope is delicious lol
So you try to change the subject again.
So how do you cope with Russia having 2.6 times more deaths than Ukraine?
see? more /k/ope 😉
>No U
See
>c...cope
Over what?
With the fact that Ukraine only has 2.6 times the kill count Russia does. If they were real pros it should be at least 4. Failure from Ukraine really.
>The offensive is failing
I remember shills saying this last time. Still doesn't change the Russians dying 2.6 times more often.
>rusaia gaining more land
Also holy shit, can you not make it more obvious you're either Russian, Serbian, and/or a shitskin? Get out.
>Tries to deflect again.
Hey man. This form of cope doesn't really help make the 2.6 to 1 death Ratio seem any better
>wouldn't have captured bakhmut 😉
...the didn't...
>Uh someone surrendered so that means we win
So when Russians surrender that doesn't count right?
I guess the thousands of Russians that surrendered to Ukraine prove even more than Russias are dying en mass far more. I guess 2.6 was too conservatives.
Of course, trying to deflect. Very predictable
>less than 2 to 1 the casualties
2.6 is not less than 2.
That leak was so fake lmao.
Nice cope.
Fake for who? Why did Russians try doctoring it if it was fake?
Yeah I still don't understand why Russians bought it kek.
Funny how it was real when Russia photoshopped the numbers but it is fake now that the original numbers are found.
Why would the US fake their own internal intelligence documents?
because it was a psyop.
The numbers are simply laughable.
There is no fricking way the ukies have only 15k dead in the whole war.
there was probably 15k dead in the severodonetsk operation alone.
They spent months under heavy artillery bombardment with no ability to retaliate.
This post will be banned by the mods, despite being on topic, because they do not allow reasonable discussion of ukrainian casualties. Which further proves me correct.
>B-BUT WE SHELLED THEM A LOT SO STATISTICALLY AT LEAST THIS MANY SHOULD'VE DIED
why do they always do this, can't people understand the concept of entrenchment?
if your enemy doesn't field airburtst munitions en-masse it simply doesn't fricking work that way, casualty numbers from artillery around bahkmut were likely far lower than you think because everyone was keeping their head down, hell i'd go so far as to say that the wounded/killed ratio changed as well, ukies in bahkmut likely suffered a much higher ratio of wounded to kill than normal because they had a solid evac structure and were constantly crawling around between different emplacements.
>/misc/ dancing up and down spamming the leak because it made America look bad
>then someone actually reads it and the numbers are grim for Russia
>now /misc/ universally believes it's a fake or psyop
I shouldnt be surprised after the schizo shit flinging spam during that stupid chink balloon fiasco
Don't forget the leak actually has a lot of stuff in it that make the US government look bad as well. Really cool of the 10000 IQ glow Black folk to purposely make the US look bad in their leaks to make the US look good
What exactly in it made the US look bad?
The intelligence they are illegally gathering from other countries.
How does this make them look “bad?”
Intelligence work overwhelmingly exists in legal grey areas. That’s why it’s secret.
Like oh no the US is really good at spying on Russia! How embarrassing!
Not to mention lol Russians illegally gather intel constantly. So cry harder lol.
>Reddit spacing
>How does spying on other countries make them look bad
Not Reddit spacing
It’s double spacing. Reddit spacing is when you double space after a > line.
But you’re a newhomosexual foreigner with no argument so it’s not too shocking that you flee to attacking nuspeak boogiemen and projecting instead of engaging with the argument.
>How does spying on other countries make them look bad
Yes exactly. Literally explain it.
> The document literally states that China could take Taiwan if it wanted to even with US provided weapons.
And US documents said Russia would complete an invasion of Ukraine in weeks when its taken them years to capture a fraction of it. This only makes the “US look bad” from your asiatic authoritarian paper tiger mindset that sees any kind of critical thought or worst-case-scenario planning as political dissent against the great leader. US plans for the worst and over-prepares. You mongroids refuse to even entertain anything but guaranteed success and then ape out when it doesn’t happen.
>More reddit spacing
kek.
Here’s a Reddit spaced list of Russian shill farms. Which one are you?
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I'm american lul
>he does it for free
Man this is just sad. You got BTFO on every point you made. It's so tiresome at this point.
How did I get btfo? Can you explain mathematically how calling someone a Redditor is a blow out?
Also I just hopped in the thread with
so whatever piss fight you were already having isn’t my problem innit
Tbphwyf I think desperately trying to act like anyone here isn’t a fricking loser is what is actually sad lol.
There’s
No
Winners
Here
M80
How am I Ivan now? Literally explain how it looks bad in any way other than empty virtue signaling and fabricated outrage? Every country spies on every other country. Way she blows bub.
>More reddit spacing
IT'S TALKING ABOUT REDDIT AGAIN!
Stop using reddit spacing then. Shill better
yes everyone you are replying to is the same person. You fricking simpleton. Go away and take your equally tarded nufren with you.
If you are going to shill, don't use reddit spacing.
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>How does the US spying on their allies make them look bad
I wonder Ivan. Why are you so low IQ?
You probably don't belong here tbh
But you don't either.
Been here longer than you likely by at least a decade.
And
I
Will
Be
Here
After
You
Kill
Yourself
Lol
I doubt it. I was here in 2010.
>Implying you had personal internet access in your hovel in 2010
If only you knew little one, if only you knew. I am the internet. I have always been here.
this shouldnt be a problem then right?
>post gun
>they disappear
Everytime.
ffs it's been a year already even a suppressor would have cleared by now
well you posted a gun to somehow prove you’re not a foreigner lol. Plenty of Putin gays own pistols.
Also you’re like reclining, I’m assuming at home, with your gun jammed into your pants pointing at your dick? Why? Who keeps their gun in their pants when they’re laying around? Is this a sex thing or something? Did you just stick it into your pants for the picture? If so, why?
What would be a problem?
Nothing you’re doing is disproving anything I said kiddo. Nobody cares about pictures of your crotch. What even is your argument? “Spying is bad and to prove it here’s a un-timestamped picture of me sitting around with a gun shoved in my pants?”
Like literally what are you bothering me for?
>Prostitutes everywhere. If the modern internet has a smell if would be stale cum rags, vomit, piss, sweat and bleach
To people who are not of the board quite obviously arguing with each other without even knowing the basic rules of timestamping. Not that gun posting has mattered much since AIs can shit out images of glocks (just about).
You bragged about being here for 10 years... Where is your gun?
AI a nice Glock for me bud
Ok... But where is yours?
The document literally states that China could take Taiwan if it wanted to even with US provided weapons.
Not something you would want to leak.
>literally states
May I see it? Also, last year, im sure official power point documents said Russia would take Ukraine even with NATO weapons.
>Analysis of risks posed by China are mentioned throughout the documents. Documents speak to inadequacies of Taiwan's air defenses, U.S. intelligence assesses China would probably establish air superiority very rapidly in an attack on Taiwan.[49][50] One document overviews a test of the DF-27 (Dongfeng) ballistic missile, which possess a "high probability" of penetrating U.S. ballistic missile defense systems. An assessment by U.S. intelligence community notes that China is likely developing cyber-attack capabilities to "deny, exploit and hijack" Western satellites.[51] A section of the documents details a potential deployment of British naval aircraft carriers in the Indo-Pacific and differing visions of Indo-Pacific (Counter-PRC) policies between the Conservative and Labour parties. Other information in the documents leak include Chinese investments in a Nicaraguan deep-sea port, Chinese complaints regarding the exclusion of Huawei in Jordanian 5G bidding, a satellite rocket launch in March, the commissioning of a new Yushen-class landing helicopter dock, Chinese Hikvision surveillance equipment in DoD supply chains and instructions for Chinese foreign affairs officials regarding the high-altitude balloon incident.[52][53] One National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency document shows satellite imagery of two WZ-8s that could provide China an advantage in a potential war against Taiwan.[54]
Yeah that doesnt say, "China will literally take Taiwan." moron. It says China would establish air superiority (duh) and Patriot batteries wouldnt be sufficient to stop Chinese ballistic missiles, which also makes sense given the sheer volume
It shows the US spying on it's ally's and states what missiles China could use to penetrate their air defense
Do you know the difference between spying and intelligence? Or are you being moronic intentionally?
>It's not spying, intercepting your own allies transmissions without them knowing in order to see what they are talking about isn't spying
Why does this shill get more and more moronic as the thread goes on?
>im just going to parrot the words everyone calls me
How about this one, Black person.
Hey Putin, put this moron on the front line. He isn't doing a good job here.
Hey Putin, im going to call this newbie a Black person. Black person.
>Get's BTFO
>only argument is to seethe
So Russia has 2.6 times the deaths Ukraine does.
Which allies did it list?
Can you post the relevant stuff?
South Korea.
>The documents outline internal debates in South Korea regarding a request by the U.S. to provide Korean artillery shells to Ukraine, about whether it would violate South Korea's policy on lethal aid if the U.S. then sent them to Ukraine. These debates were obtained through signals intelligence conducted by the CIA.[26] One official suggested the possibility of selling artillery shells to Poland instead, where it would then be sent to Ukraine. South Korea's President Yoon Suk-yeol described the leaked documents as "utterly false ... compromising national interest".[3] The South Korean government announced that in a phone call between U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and his counterpart in South Korea, both countries agreed that large portions of the South Korea-related documents were fabricated.[3][58][59]
So what’s the part that’s supposed to look bad?
>How does spying on your ally look bad
You know Water Gate was about spying right?
Do you not understand the difference between those 2 things and why one is a bigger deal than the other?
Like what are you fricking stupid or is your goal just to act like as much of an evasive stalinist homosexual as possible?
It really was a mistake though. Not in intent, I mean I for one really thought it would be awesome and people would help each other, telemedicine, no one ever lonely or abandoned again, wonderful free online loibraries with all the world great books, anew library of alexander that could never be burnt down and open for the whole world. Instead we got infinite porn, the Kardashians, this shithole and the third world arriving on android phones to lower the internet IQ to 80 and fanboy for turd world shit like mohammadeanism and hindooism and wierd squalid dictators like putin and chang. Instead of cookery videos and free maths lessons and language lessons and reading and writing lessons, ISIS execution videos and Russian driunks lighting their farts. Prostitutes everywhere. If the modern internet has a smell if would be stale cum rags, vomit, piss, sweat and bleach
Free and open dialogue and discourse can only lead to greater illumination of the truth! Wrote JS MIll and I said to myself. yes. Let the internet be SO an end to war and cruelty and an ocean of knowledge. JS MIll never saw what 3 billion turd worlders changs and vatniks could do to turth though did he? Rather than being a river of knowledge they all pissed in the river and it became a river of piss. When did I know the internet was a mistake? Probably 1997 when I actually knew the vast majority of data being exchanged in volume via it was image data of flesh tones. After the turd world arrived on mobile phones? Its a simple abomination over watched by some of the most clinically insane anti-human corporate entities to ever exist. Too late now. No off button. Getting old. Lifes work ruined. Here we are. Have a nice day.
>The documents included the list of countries which have small contingents of military special forces operating inside Ukraine; the United Kingdom sent the largest number of soldiers at 50, followed by Latvia (17), France (15), the United States (14) and the Netherlands (1).[43] The United States special forces were detailed to the U.S. embassy in Kyiv to provide security for VIPs and to assist with oversight of U.S. equipment and supplies being sent to Ukraine.[44][45]
This alone would put the US in hot shit if the Russians weren't homosexuals and kept good on their word that this was a red line
>there are people in country coordinating the exchange of these weapons
No fricking shit.
That's only true for the US. The other special forces units were actually offensive
Is there something that says they're offensive troops? Below 50 is too small for anything except coordinating squad level operations. They're probably logistic and intelligence pogs.
>Bu Buu But the depleting Ukranian AA stock!
Ruskies love to leave this page of the leak out.
This is most funny part.
You see the leak is true. Every part of it, except this part. This one part is fake. Except when we used ms paint to flip the casualty numbers, then it was real.
Watching the Russian cope itt is actually pretty funny
They don’t. Ukraine literally guessed on their own deaths and then extrapolated Russian deaths from that. Yes that’s ridiculous but there’s no other source of data besides OSINT which is far from complete. Maybe one day we’ll get the classified Russian data.
Oh no. Cope
>I-It's just not true. Ukraine can't be having so few deaths and Russia just can't have so many!
So every other part of the leak is true except this part correct Russian shill?
you really need to start trusting your own ability to think instead of what authorities tell you, anon. Look at other artillery battles in history and look at the casualty numbers in them. The numbers being presented to us by the leak are just crazy.
Sadly Russia has shit artillery due to bad intelligence.
so the months where ukraine was saying they were taking 300-500 casualties a day just dont exist anymore? do you not have a memory?
That's nice. It still adds up to 2.6 Russian deaths to Ukraine.
>Get's casualties and deaths mixed up
Why are Russian shills so moronic? Even for their unsourced claim they fricked up.
you homosexual.
if you werent a 16 year old shill, you would know that wounded are usually ~3X the dead. here we have an article saying 1k casualties per day.
Nice screencap.
So how do you deal with the fact that Russia suffers 2.6 times more deaths?
what do you mean how do i deal with it? my contention are that the numbers in the leak are fricking wrong. i have no position on the proportion of dead. you are trying to impose on me a position i do not claim, because you are a psycho with an agenda.
>Their wrong
Oh so you just deny the reality. I'm happy to hear that.
So that is how you cope.
amazing.
your ability to declare reality from an extremely biased source is just astounding.
you seriously need to read about battles in history and look at the casualties in them.
batttles that are no longer a political hot topic, and therefore have fairly reasonable casualty numbers.
you will immediately be astounded, and you will immediately be forced to conclude that 15k dead for an entire year of a artillery war is just completely delusional.
Both sides of this war want to claim that they arent taking horrific casualties.
they are both wrong.
battle of the bulge alone had like 100k casualties for both sides.
>It's heckin biased the internal US document is biased
Amazing cope.
Even priggy said 20k died just to take a single city. That 1 city has more dead than all of Ukriane has faced the entire war.
yeah, youre a shill
you dont care about truth at all.
>N-No you are a shill not me
>No argument
Kek.
>biased
Yes anon. The US is biased in it's own internal document not meant to be seen by the document. It's so funny that the US intelligence will lie to itself.
as i said, and the argument i am making is that the casualty numbers in the intel leaks are historically delusional. and because they are delusional, it is highly likely that the intel leaks are a psyop. you are insane if you think the USA is not employing every intelligence operation it can possibly use.
Yes moron. The US is psyopping it's own intelligence agency. Amazing cope.
are you being serious?
they are psyoping our own population and the population of europe to buttress support for the war. they need to maintain political support for it, so they will lie about it, cover up how revolting war is.
this is fricking standard practice for literally over 100 years anon. what the frick is wrong with you?
Nice seething cope conspiracy.
>NO THE US LEAKED IT ON PURPOSE
Really? Then why did they allow Russian shills to spend weeks spamming their moronic cope edit?
Why does it heavily criticize the Ukrainian military?
Cope seethe and cope is next level.
are you actually trying to claim, on this board, that war time governments do not produce propaganda? Is that literally your argument right now?
Amazing cope.
So the US made propaganda which makes the US look bad and then allowed Russian shills to make an edit and spam it everywhere for weeks including the edit showing up on both fox news and all over Russian TV and only reveal the original image much later after people started to forget about the leak.
Amazing logic moron. Cope more
So the US made propaganda which mostly makes both the US and Ukraine look bad (the leak had far more than casualty numbers) and allowed Russia to make photoshops that would appear on world wide television and decide to only reveal the original leaks later even though far more people know about the edit than the original?
Okay, lemme understand this, the DIA lied to the Pentagon with their plan being that a moron ANG airman would use his clearance to leak the poorly-secured documents on Black personbrap.net that would then, after a month of being overlooked, get picked up by the wider internet via a shitpost on /misc/. This is your working theory on how they spread their "propaganda", correct?
You are a clown.
Don't forget the fact that the first look was badly edited by shills and wound up on fox news saying Ukraine has over 6 million deaths. The photoshop leak was spread all over PrepHole and Russian and American news to try to say a ton of Ukrianians died. Then the moment the real document got found much later it is now suddenly fake.
You got btfo by
and now make another cope.
you mean 150K dead?
Really? 150k Americans died?
Oh wait no, 36,000 did out of 1.8 million.
>1.8million
did south koreans not fight in the korean war?
its pretty obvious at this point that i am talking to intelligence operatives. i just want to let you know that you frickers literally digust me. and this war has completely changed the way i view the MIC. I am almost certain to never vote for a hawk politician ever again in my life. you are fricking revolting.
Wow more cope.
NO THE US CAN'T JUST HAVE SUCH A SMALL NUMBER OF DEATHS TO SOLDIERS THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE LIKE I JUST SAID
do you think that the word "cope" has a magic abilty to warp reality?
See
Cope.
1.8 million US soldiers.
33,000 deaths
Korean War (1950-1953)
Total U.S. Servicemembers (Worldwide) 5,720,000
Total Serving (In Theater) 1,789,000
Battle Deaths 33,739
Other Deaths (In Theater) 2,835
Other Deaths in Service (Non-Theater) 17,672
Non-mortal Woundings 103,284
Living Veterans 1,165,000
It's only counting Americans
https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf
You can cope now
inb4 this moron tries to pretend the total US soldiers somehow counts Koreans too.
>Conflating South Koreans and Americans
Based moron
>Commie side has 4 times the amount of deaths as the NATO side
Thanks for proving the point
Westoid pig can no handle a little bit dying*~~
-Z
>YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE SO FEW DEAD
>Get's BTFO by Americans in Korea
>NOOOO YOU CAN ONLY COUNT KOREANS
The goal post moving is insane
3 years and 1.8 million troops lead to only 36k dead.
So 1 year and a 3rd as many troops having half that is completely logical you seething moron
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE SO FEW DEATHS ON UKRAINES SIDE
And yet they do. You can seethe about it.
NK and China also had artillery too yet look how many US soldiers died in the korean war
yes... lets look at korean war battles.
here we have chosen resovoire. probably like, 25% of the total number of troops as the sevrodonestk offensive.
So out of a war that had 6.8 million American people serving only 36,000 died.
Ukraine's military is FAAAAAAAAAAR smaller than that.
In other words having more dead than that is actually surprising.
Thanks for proving my point moron
>Over a million soldiers lead to only 36,000 deaths
>NOOOOOOO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE DEATH NUMBERS THAT LOW
Wow good job shill.
What about priggy when he said 20k of his own men died trying to take bakmut? That alone means Russia has lost more people for a single city than all of Ukraine has the entire war.
I see you post a screencap of a random thing.
Sorry that US official documents state it's 2.6 deaths to 1.
Is this you Black
Why are you people struggling with this? The data comes from Ukraine as Ukraine is the only source for the data. Ukraine uses a silly cope method to count casualties, probably more to do with propaganda and showing how well they’re doing for their allies. Where else do you suggest the data comes from? Russia? Stealth drones flying over the battlefield 24/7 recording deaths? Or what?
I-It's only from Ukraine
Lol cope
They guess their OWN deaths and extrapolate Russian deaths from that. That’s how awful they are at military stuff; they don’t have the systems, processes or people to correctly capture and process real data.
This. The US, the country with the best military intelligence on earth is wrong. It's the Russians who are right!
So how do you cope with Russia having 2.6 times more deaths?
Good lord. The US does NOT have that kind of visibility into who died where. Pentagon media briefings have said multiple times that they DON’T have a good view into what’s happening on the front due to how closely packed together everything is. They rely on Ukraine to provide that data. Why is this so hard to understand? Could it be you don’t WANT to understand?
This. The best intelligence system on earth doesn't know how many Russians died. Trust Russia. Like Priggy who said 20k Russians died in Bakhmut for a single city.
2.6 is way too low actually.
No they don't. The DIA comes up with their own independent assessments. They say right there in plain language that official Ukr and Rus estimates are BS, i.e. "don't listen to them listen to us" then show in the graphic where they differ from the official numbers.
The mental backflips rustards go through to explain away the DIA is something else, man. Goddamn. Lay off before you hurt yourself.
They're the ones who are attacking, higher casualties are to be expected, and I'm saying that as a NATO supporter. Still, those casualties are way too fricking high and it clearly shows how backwards the Russian military has gotten over the past 30 years.
W-Why did the two Russian shills suddenly leave the thread? Is it lunch time in India?
>I thought Russia was supposed to be the 2nd best military on earth.
You misheard, it's the #2 military in Ukraine
Do you think the Russian shill from India are having a huddle meeting right now discussing their next move after getting BTFO itt?
remember when they tried to pass the leaks off as a massive blow to nato?
>How does the Russian military cope
looking at their perfomance, not very good
i would like to point out how dumb it is to compare the korean war to the ukraine war.
the south had massive material advantages over the north in that war.
this is established fact for decades.
the ukraine war is much more even, and ukraine is actually at a disadvantage in many ways.
Wow amazing cope. You spent all this time claiming the there couldn't be fatalities that low, then pretended that the fatality to soldier ratio was much higher and now you made another fricking cope.
>the south had massive material advantages over the north in that war.
this is established fact for decades.
The North had a much more powerful military than the south you homosexual seething moron.
north korea and china had strategic bombers and aircraft carriers?
oh wait, that was the UN alliance, not the north. moron.
Insane more cope. You desperately move the goalpost now.
>Air craft Carriers
Where did this cope come from?
You were talking about ground stationed artillery.
>NO ONE COULD HAVE CASUALTY NUMBERS THIS LOW
Then you got btfo by the korean war
>NO THE CASUALTIES WERE ACTUALLY FAR HIGHER
Then you got btfo by a .gov link
>NOOOOOOO IT'S A PSYOP
Then you got btfo by basic logic.
>W-WELL THEY HAD AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
This is your current cope now?
Wow here comes a new cope after getting BTFO. You waited 25 minutes to make up this cope post? Really?
Ukraine has nato weapons. Russia doesn't. It's that simple. What will your next cope be?
>south korea had a massive material advantage
Did you think you can just make shit up and no one would notice?
This. North's military was far superior to the Souths. In fact up until the late 80s North Korea had more resources and a higher GDP than South Korea.
This homosexual makes up bullshit then waits a few minutes after getting completely BTFO then tries again. He is a very dedicated shill.
Even post war. North Korea was in much better shape than worst Korea. That didnt change until the 80s and things expoentially gor worse for one and better for the other.
Isn't it funny how South Korea despite having far less resources has less deaths than North Korea?
I wonder if NATO equipment might be better than commie equipment
>Did you think you can just make shit up and no one would notice?
would you like a piece of humble pie?
>NO THE SOUTH HAD FAR LESS RESOURCES
>OH WAIT I SPECIFICALLY MEAN ARTILLERY AND SPECIFICALLY AMERICA
More goalpost moving.
lol you homosexuals are such hilarious shills.
you seriously need to be demoted because you are bad at this.
>Get's BTFO 5 times in a row
>Seethes and calls everyone else shills
you are the one that got btfo
not me.
you should tell your commander that he needs to put people that are not 19 years old on psyops duty.
people that actually have life experience and know what they are talking about will BTFO a 19 year old e1 every time.
This cope is too sad.
So US 1.8 million in the korean war
only 36,000 dead
Ukraine has 2.6 times more kills than Russia
talk about battles.
not wars with 2 years of stalemate
then you wont sound like a c**t.
but a c**t is what you are, so you cant.
Wow more cope.
>Talk about battles
US through an entire war had 1.8 soldiers and only 36,000 deaths
Ukraine throughout the war has 2.6 times more kills than Russia
But we are discussing wars you moronic shill
The last ditch cope response after realizing arguing wont work. So you will just reply with cope and no arguments from now on I assume.
What is this format? Are you actually shaking right now?
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE DEATHS THAT LOW THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
>Get btfo
>B-BUT THE US HAD AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
And Ukraine has NATO weapons which are 100 years more advanced than Russian weapons.
>make something up
>get called out
>post evidence you were wrong either because you cant read or assumed no one else can
Black person
By winning.
Please send this shill to the front line and get a better one Putin
I wish Russians would own up to their failures. Then I would actually believe they might win
>Sure we have more casualties but...
Instead they deny reality which make them losing the war even more certain
Those documents and the data in the are bullshit garbage created by a low IQ attention prostitute trying to convince a discord he was Jason Bourne and have no relevance to anything. Without considering deserters, executions, friendly fire etc Russians have about 220,000 dead and about 600,000 maimed. Ukraine has probably lost 70-100 thousand. If Putin is left alive by this then that is a huge injustice to all the dead.
>reddit dies for a few days
>/misc/ shitposting skyrockets
/misc/ was invaded by plebbit in 2016 after some Trump plebbit thing got canceled for being antiBlack personghey according to plebbit group think so they came and created nupol is my understanding of events. . Today? /misc/ is merely a place for the vatBlack folk and changs to tardwrangle the turd world and skitzos.
When they're not denying it, they claim to be proud of it.
Apparently, sending all your young men to die makes you strong and brave. Westerners who try to keep their young men alive are soft.
>Russia