How do you live with yourself working in a weapons factory and not knowing whether the weapons you assemble will end up killing someone you like or someone you don't like ?
How do you live with yourself working in a weapons factory and not knowing whether the weapons you assemble will end up killing someone you like or so...
Even if 99 of the bullets i made miss their mark or kill someone I love - as long as a single bullet finds its way into the head of a R*ssian, I sleep like a baby.
Your wish is granted, Alexei Navalny dies from a lethal wound inflicted by your bullet.
Good. That's one of the best vatBlack folk to destroy, if not the best.
Oh no, not one of Putin's controlled opposition.
(if he was actually inconvenient he would be dead instead of merely put into storage where he cannot do as much harm to the regime, but will still be available to become a hero or martyr if a faked regime change is necessary to preserve the KGB clique).
>Alexei Navalny
The black-gold-white anti-semitic neo-fascist? Yeah, ok.
You're thinking of Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the king of Russian political shitposting.
(the drunken rant he's probably most famous for in the west)
(throwing water at other MPs)
(fighting journalists)
(the other journalist incident)
(the Sobchak incident)
He was controlled opposition, sure, but he was funny as frick.
Good? What's your point?
Alexy nalvieni is litteraly a
Nobody to anyone except English speakers who watch cnn
Good.
>You killed a good vatnik
No such thing
How do you live with yourself working in a car factory not knowing whether the vehicles you assemble will end up killing someone?
They're just tools. Stop being a child.
When used, cars are mostly used for transportation, but when used, a weapon's only purpose is to kill.
Black person the premise of the OP is your opposition to guns being used to kill someone you don’t like, not being used to kill period
>a weapon's only purpose is to kill.
Animals. Or cardboard. Or some empty oil barrels
A weapon's only purpose is to fire a projectile. An overwhelming, vast majority will never be used to kill anything. Even fewer will be used to kill a human. Of the ones that do, very few will be used in criminal homicide. Take your weak, childish talking points to a place where other feeble minded children will think them deep and meaningful. Life is not a Disney movie. Personal responsibility is all that ever matters, the guy making the gun has no culpability for its use.
None of my evil black rifles have ever killed anything. Must be defective.
this is good bait heres a (you) i hope you get many more replies because /k/ids
I'm not convinced that it's bait. I know people that really, unironically, argue this. It's an actual gun grabber talking point.
I don't know if you're just baiting for (you)'s or if you're a dumb childish homosexual that is utterly lacking in criticle thinking skills; or some combination of both.
Regardless of which it is, to retort:
A gun is a tool, and like all tools its purpose is dependent upon the hands that it is in. Yes, a gun can kill someone. A gun can also be a work of art. It can be a tool that puts meat in the freezer of a man's family that can't really afford to put meat there any other way. Its mere presense can be enough to defuse what might otherwise turn into a lethal confrontation. It allows police to enforce the law because all authority flows from superiority of force. It allows people to resist (and hopefully overthrow) tyrannical government. It is the only thing that allows a frail 70 year old grandmother to defend herself for a physically powerful 20 year old urban youth.
The gun is a tool, a lifeless lump of metal. It has no purpose on its own. Only the hands holding it give it purpose. Only those hands can answer for what is done with the tool.
Anyone can die from anything at any time, go be a gay somewhere else
I've often considered how much it must suck to work in a Euro weapons factory, manufacturing weapons you can never legally own in your country.
That or knowing they'll be used by some third world dictator to oppress the local populace
>American education
post ar, post fn fal, post any BR, post revolver, post any fricking gun with any sort of use case, then tell us how you open carry it and can safely use it for self defense.
wah wah Black person
Kek so you're one of the few
No one here ever said no Europeans are allowed to own any guns so if this was supposed to be some kind of a gotcha you need to pay more attention to the set up
>manufacturing weapons you can never legally own in your country.
'k
I don't know how this is supposed to be a gotcha. The only person I know who manufactures weapons works on the TOW project.
Why did you paint the white supremacist rifle black?
>gun I made kills someone
that's pretty frickin metal regardless
The strings of morality don't stretch that far.
You may piece together a single sub-assm, but did you choose who to sell it to? Did you collect that money? Did you then put it in the hands of a killer? Did you pull that trigger? No. You just make sub assemblies.
>You may piece together a single sub-assm, but did you choose who to sell it to? Did you collect that money? Did you then put it in the hands of a killer? Did you pull that trigger? No. You just make sub assemblies.
That's the point. If you didn't make sub assemblies, no one would sell what you didn't make to anyone, no one would collect money from what you didn't make, no killer would be handed what you didn't made and no one would pull the trigger of a weapon you didn't make.
Someone would. But that doesn't matter...
Weapons are morally neutral until used.
I can kill someone with a dress belt, does that make the belt's maker immoral?
>Someone would. But that doesn't matter...
>I can kill someone with a dress belt, does that make the belt's maker immoral?
You can kill someone with your bare hands too. Hands have a purpose, belts have a purpose, and 99.99% of the time they're used for their intended purpose, not to kill. Weapons are only intended to kill.
your dick is only used to reproduce but it hasn't fricked one girl yet funny how that works
Same thing with pit bulls, they were bred to kill but until the government gets off it's ass and executes all those killing machines and wipes that breed out of existence I won't give up my weapons
Space Coast?
Perfectly fine, dude
t. Russian defence industry engineer
You know, I used to work in the warehouse of an e-commerce shop for sex toys as a picker. I didn't give a single frick who ordered what and what this person would do with the toys.
Everyone else made a big fuzz achieving nothing.
Same goes for guns: It dont fricking matter. Your job aint about finding out what happesn with the stuff you work with.
Repeat after me
>NONE OF MY FRICKING BUSINESS
I'd leave a makers mark in a visible part of the tool and hope the Police publish photos of the tool
>there are people who actually think this is some kind of moral dilemma
I'm not 6 years old or a bleeding heart control freak. A simple "who cares?" works for me.
Hundreds of thousands of people die every week. Why should i care if some of them are killed with weapons? What difference does it make if they die of disease, starvation or violence?
I live with myself quite well. I can only hope that one of the warships I build gets to see combat against the chinks.
I hope it sinks a troop transport.
NNSY? NNSB?
BIW
Neat. I only get involved when my company supplies equipment for projects either at the shipyards or on the vessels themselves, but I love being around shipbuilding. Only NNSY and NNSB for me though where gov't vessels are concerned.
Yeah shipbuilding is pretty comfy honestly. I think I finally found my calling in it. All the cool parts of being on/working on a ship without all the gay shit that comes with being in the navy.
Enjoy your mesothelioma
Why are you such a pussy about this? Statistically speaking the overwhelming majority of firearms will never kill anything aside from varmints and the occasional deer or other hunting target at most, and even then just because you made it doesn’t mean you’re also responsible for how others use it. Most people own weapons for recreational shooting and/or to act as a deterrent and last line of defense for anyone that tries to attack them, be it criminal or professional. And if millions of people trusted my design so much they will literally have their life potentially on the line as their only defense with it, then I would feel pretty good I could give those who can’t defend themselves a second chance at equalizing the playing field.
I work on an assembly line on BMW car parts in a Holiday job, around several ten of thousand for a few weeks. My parts where build in a car that probably killed some BMW frickhead driver but yeah lol I give a frick. The same moronic logic
i used to work at a starbucks.
we would get this woman, wasnt sure her age we think early 30s based. she was extremely fat.
she would come in twice a day and was very friendly. but her drink was exceedingly strange.
in total she would get over 80 pumps of syrup.
she would order a grande (medium) sized but we would have to give her the largest cup we had.
14 chocolate, 18 vanialla, 13 hazlenut ectect. she wrote it down, and we did too. we kept a sharpied receipt paper on the side of the espresso machine.
did i mention she came in twice a day? once first thing in the morning, and once in the late afternoon.
we did the math and her drink was nearly DOUBLE the amount of sugar in a 2 liter bottle of mtn dew
and she loved it so much she came in TWICE a day.
god knows what else she ate on the daily.
now, she was getting slow. and fatter by the week. and after a year (surprisingly) she stopped comming in. for about 4 weeks. untill one day she did. in a wheel chair. we didnt ask her why, she didnt tell us. but she ordered the usual. and did so twice a day for the next few months. she stopped coming in. and i didnt see her for the rest of the year i worked there. we all contributed to her death.
though she consented. she initiated. it was her idea in the first place. we were just minimum wage workers tryin to do our thing. i feel no guilt. just awe and disgust.
I worked at McDonald’s for like 2 months. In the same way I have probably killed people via cardiac arrest
Probably about as easy as the car factory workers who go to bed with 1.35 million traffic related fatalities per year, which is drastically higher. They have nothing to do with it and shouldn't feel anything. Its not like if the entire factory for walked out they wouldn't be replaced; the product flow does not cease and if they don't build it somebody else will. Its a job.
Just like I could work at a liqour store and not worry about who fries their liver, or work at a fastfood joint and not worry about who gets fat; at an office store, I could not worry about who electrocutes themselves with their printer, or gets a paper cut; at a bank, I would not worry about the loans being bad. People die, it's not that tragic, the loss for the folk still alive is sadder still.
Just got a promotion in the weapons industry recently. I'm hoping to gain valuable knowledge on gunsmithing that can be used when whites decide to take their country back from the subhuman hordes.
>tfw you and your tyrant homies get blown to shit by a 10 year old white girl with a gustav
We can only pray for a future so based.
First you work various retail and customer service jobs. For example, at a collections call center. Then when you work in a weapons factory, you won't care who the weapons kill, only that it hurts the entire time they're dying.
How do you live with yourself working on a carrot farm and not knowing whether the sausages you make will end up on someone you like or someone you don't like's ass?
how do you know the food you produce isn't going to a serial killer? tool manufacturers don't need to be overly concerned about the end use of their tools
How do you know that the food you produce isn't being sent as aid to Africa, which is way more destructive than being given to Gary Ridgeway or something.
You have absolutely zero moral/ethical culpability for what someone else chooses to do.
How do you live with yourself working and not knowing whether the taxes you pay will end up as gibs to some deadbeat Black person?
>ctrl+f tax
Only correct replies.
How do you live with yourself knowing every dollar you make provides tax revenue that drops ordbance on civilian heads overseas? Life is tough, homosexual. Man the frick up.
Who exactly determines what the purpose of a tool or machine is? Ultimately is it not the person using it? That does it matter what a tool is "designed for" if the people who buy it use it for something else? And even if we want to argue that the manufacturer that designed the tool is the one that decided its purpose, plenty of guns are expressly designed for sporting and tournament shooting purposes. For instance staccato 2011 pistols are not intended to be military or police weapons, they are intended to shoot steel and paper as fast as possible. Over under shotguns are not martial weapons, they are for shooting clays and hunting birds. Arguing that they COULD be used to kill people is literally the same as arguing you could kill a person with a hammer or an SUV. It's true, you could very easily do that, but that's up to the psychopath trying to use them for that purpose.
How does this "dilemma" end with guns? What if you're a car salesman that sells a car that's used in another Wakesha parade attack, are you somehow responsible for that? What if you're a pharmacist that dispenses a drug that someone later sells to a kid and they OD, is that your responsibility? You can't reasonably be held responsible for stuff that other people do with products they buy. Not only is it not in your power to control how people use their property, it's not even your business. You have no place even trying to accept responsibility for something that another person does with a gun. The vast majority of guns in the country, probably as much as 95% of them, are safe queens that will never do anything of any consequence to anybody. They'll be brought out to shoot paper or cans once or twice a year, if that, and nothing bad will happen to anyone involved.
Tl;dr
TL;DR "Shut the frick up and mind your business, pussy."
Not that anon, but the tldr is that even if a gun is "designed to kill" it's not immoral to make them. What something is designed for has no bearing on what it's actually used for. If an innocent person is murdered using a gun you made, unless the murderer explicitly told you their intentions, you're not a bad person.
Yeah maybe instead of typing a long winded rant to an audience that implicitly agrees with him he could have just said that. I didn't read it, but it looked like it was written by a 14 year old who takes his own opinion entirely too seriously.
It wasn't to the board, it was to OP.
Why do you keep making these threads? You got your answer the first time, why repeat it? What do you hope to gain from creating a slightly different question, then repeating the "but guns r supposed to kill people so u shouldnt make them" argument? Are you a troll or just moronic?
Y'all like to treat guns like they just jump up off tables and shoot the closest person; as though they have a mind of their own.
They don't. They are a tool. They get misused. It sucks, but I'd rather have the tool than not in a life-or-death situation.
i would love to work in a weapons factory. maybe i'll find one for my next job. thanks OP.
Not my problem. I sell drugs to kids, explosives to terrorists, glocks to criminals, alcohol to pregnant women. I also rent out condos for pimps and give gambling addicts special offers in my casino. As the other anons said ITT, not my fricking problem what they do with what I sell to them.
By not caring.
You ever work at a restaurant or fast food place and think that the burger you're serving is your customer's last meal and neither you nor they realize it yet? Or even worse, they know and you don't. I think about that a lot when shooting my guns, which will be the last one fired, the first to be destroyed, the one I see last, will any of them be pointed back at me? Strange feeling realizing the object in your hands has outlived multiple men already, what makes you any different? Who will hold it next? Does it die with you?
I don't work in a weapons factory. Good guess though!
If I did, I would live with myself the normal way
Just don't like anyone. Easy.