How do you know if you're not cut out for the military?
Is it something that's intrinsic, or can anyone do it with enough work?
How do you know if you're not cut out for the military?
How do you know if you're not cut out for the military?
Is it something that's intrinsic, or can anyone do it with enough work?
It's like most jobs. If you want to be the very best you need innate talent but anyone willing to work hard can be good enough.
This is true, but being in the military as a career also requires a high tolerance for bullshit and commission to the mission. As with any government job, it's going to mean doing the best you can to enact policies you think are wrong if you're going to do your job right. Sometimes elected officials or the people they appoint are shit heads (sometimes they have real vision and if you don't see it at the time and realize years later that you are the shit head). You can advocate for yourself the best you are able, but in the military it is often many years before you can be in a place to advocate on anything that matters.
Also, unlike other roles, bad decisions by the leadership gets people killed in large numbers, making it harder to swallow and enact bullshit.
With the military, you have less freedom and have to deal with more petty shit. You have the problem of being under bad leaders who have stayed in simply because they don't know what else to do with themselves/can't live without all the constrictions of military life. Years in dictate whose above you far more than other parts of government or the private sector and this can be a deal breaker for ambitious people and why a lot of folks with talent hop over to civilian jobs with DoD, State, etc. once they can leave with a clearance and veterans preference. A well placed GS-9 (about 2nd Lt.) can end up having more influence then a GS-15 (colonel) in the civie world; that's much less likely in the military.
You also get some dumb as shit coworkers, especially when recruiting is having a hard time. People join the US military because they're poorly motivated kids who don't know what else to do with themselves. Some of these kids thrive once they get in but some you can't trust to stack rocks correctly.
Mil is better for family life than the foreign service IMO though.
There is also no incentive for people with skills and training to join. I've talked to guys with solid def policy work, coming out with grad degrees from top schools and two priority languages and you have to tell that they'll be signing up to be treated like any 21 year old. Actually, they'll have less priority than a mediocre candidate who did ROTC for branching.
Why wouldn't they go to a contractor or DoD then?
But if you have some sort of high skill pipeline you get the mediocre guys getting butthurt about "not having put in the years."
For my $0.02 it would be worth trying something to get early achievers 26-32 or so in because they might bring in some solid outside experience, rather than pissing money away on consultant studies that then always have to be enacted by people who have only ever worked in the system. Plus it becomes a model for how to integrate skilled people if there is ever a need for conscription and huge growth in the force again.
/rant
I never worked a day during my time, but I also was told that I should leave sooner rather than later because I’d never move past O-3 despite my stellar reviews and overall positive demeanor and minority status. Just go to a SMC and straight commission and coast, it’s super easy.
im very fit, but the very thought of dying / bleeding out / loosing legs is something that keeps me out of military, sure, you can go for support roles, but fear of loosing my dick in an air strike or someshit makes me reconcider it 10 times
I really, really, really, really hate running. Also my brain ceases to function as soon as I had 1 minute less sleep than I should.
what's the standard in the US? last I checked it was 2.4km in 9:30:00 for the Canadian army
bro 9 minutes for 2.4km? how the frick id be smoked easily
nvm never joining the military
I’ve been heavily into guns and military stuff since my early teen years and I’m 25 now. I was even kind of larpy in high school and early college years, looking like a military guy and sometimes telling people I intended to join the marines. I worked out and ran since I was 15 and still do to this day. I’m very fit.
However, I just never went. I didn’t have the balls. I have an issue where stress and anxiety cause me to get sick and vomit under certain circumstances and this fear of “what if I have an episode on the battlefield” was just too horrific a thought for me to actually sign the papers.
Plus I always felt like it would be one of those things where some days I’m into it but others I just want to be home playing vidya and being with my family.
Well that’s my story.
Having anxiety is normal. I know I certainly felt like throwing up in certain situations. I still went for it and did my time in the Army to see whats up. Turned out to be a lackluster experience but I'm glad I did it
Honestly it's the people you're working with and/or the place you're gonna be in. Most of the time you're gonna be with fricking idiots which you wanna rip their faces up since they always do dumb shit. Then it's the fact that most military installations are in frick-off land and you'll feel the military presence since it's often the biggest employee in that county/town/city.
Also since you're in the army 24/7, civilians won't get your humor and you'll feel like you don't belong to society.
I'm not cut out because of my asthma. MEPS flat out told me they wouldn't take a waiver despite what my recruiter said. Sucks because my family was military and the structure was always something I actually enjoyed; I'm a person who needs some sort of goal or objective to work to otherwise I piss my time away. If you don't think you are fit for combat but want to serve, you can always join the air force and work in the logistics/tech side of things. A lot of Infosec guys I work with are former military and none of them are guys who would last five minutes in combat with their short nerdy bodies, but their jobs were still mission critical.
wut about things like meteorology?
http://www.mosdb.com/army/93E/mos/4570/
http://www.mosdb.com/army/30432/mos/1997/
There's nearly a position for everything in the military.
Can 3rd world samaritans volunteer for murrica, especially for things like the ones given here ?
>http://www.mosdb.com/army/03D/mos/88/
>Arts and Crafts Specialist
lmao, can anyone explain this, why the frick is this a role in the military.
holy fricking shit they didnt even try to give it a tactical army name
in the marines its known as 3381
are there any height requirements?
i'd say if you're between 5'2 and 6'6 which is like 98% of men you're good
ah, glad that I'm safe
If you can't fire three rounds a minute in any weather.
>How do you know if you're not cut out for the military?
then its off to a vehicle to be a "proooober" or a "shaaaaper"
you can drive cant you?
you can press a button cant you?
you can sit in a logistics area and organize ammo cant you?
there is NO escape from ~~*total nato drafting*~~
they WILL find something for you to do
The military as a whole or combat arms?
I'd rather go to some shithole like Africa where warlords be warlordin' since at least it would be more entertaining compared with the alternatives where one is more likely to die from a roadside IED than actual combat.
I would have joined but id have to punch out the drill sergeant if he ever got in my face
>not cut out for the military?
No such thing, outside of disabilities. Anything that's learned can be unlearned and vice versa. Just got to find the proper motivation.
I grew up with every intention of joining the military. When it came time at 18 I jist didn't do it. I told myself and everyone for years bullshit as to why I didn't like my mom talked me out of it or I had a bad knee injury (I did) or a perforated ear drum (I did) but neither of thoes things would've actually disqualified me.
I didn't join the military because at the time other things became important to me and now 10 years later thoes choices led me in a different direction in life with experiences and people that would I had joined I wouldn't have for better or worse. For all I know if I had joined I could've been dead by now. I regret not joining sometimes but I am immediately reminded that if I did, my life would be completely different, and I like the life I have.
I think if you're going to join amd be successful it has to be something that you're fully and deeply committed to and something that gives you a deep sense of meaning, because if it's not you're probably going to miss out on that sense of meaning.
Ask yourself your own motivations, then decide if you want to frick around and find out, it's the only way. A couple years and figure if you want to reenlist, swap MOS or quit the field. Your motivations will be the most important factor that decides whether you can stick it out or not.
I'm nearing the end of 4 years and then I'm out. I'm pretty okay at it, good at my job, don't b***h and shirk more than the average enlisted, but I'm not cut out for career and never intended to be. My motivation was just to be able to look in the mirror and say "yeah man, you toughed that out. You didn't quit. You finished something good. What's the next challenge?"
Gonna do my time honorably and get the benefits and be glad to have had an adventure, even if it was a pain in the ass.
Why would you want to join the military? It is filled with affirmative action subhumans, who are worthless subhumans.