How do I wire this to control 4 motors either while pressed the arrow buttons (which is spring and goes to neutral automaticly) and the toggle one without short circuiting basicly making it moron proof
it is to control 4 toy motors seperately in both directions like setup for an electric controlled crane or something
oh wait im moronic the top one left is rotated wrong i guess
yes like I said i need to control 4 motors seperately either by keeping the button pressed or pressing the constant one direction button without it being able to short circuit when you press 2 buttons at same time for example
is this possible?
please connect the dots for me in paint on how to wire it without short circuiting it
thanks
I could probably figure out how to wire 1 button so it goes both ways, but i need 2 buttons for same motor to choose if you want to keep it pressed manually or keep it pressed constantly.
But I dont know if its possible this wire setup without short circuit
Someone please tell me if possible yes then how to draw diagram
What should happen if you put the toggle switch on clockwise and press the spring return switch in go counter clockwise for the same motor?
You might need a diode
yes but im worried that when the constant button left is pressed, and i press manual button right that it will short circuit, no?
DIY = Do It Yfor me
I think you need to pay people to think for you.
What is our motivation to reinvent something that already exists for you? Start stop and jog works great for starting, stopping, and jogging motors. If you figure out a better way, share that with us. If you want someone else to figure it out for you, pay someone.
>Someone please tell me if possible yes then how to draw diagram
Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? Start stop jog switches have existed for motors since forever.
I was going to answer, but my "IP range has been blocked due to abuse." I'm not buying a PrepHole pass to be able to post from my computer and typing the captcha takes as much effort as writing a post, so frick you and this place I guess.
Weird, I don't see many shitposts on PrepHole.
Let alone ones worthy of an image rangeban.
add two relays with NC contacts for each motor. wire them so CW and CCW cannot turn on at the same time. that's the easiest way to make it moron proof
cant i just do it with on that picture + wire
maybe if you add one more toggle switch for choosing between the different types of switches. as is, with two switches able to turn the motor CW or CCW separately it's just not going to work
>cant i just do it with on that picture + wire
If you can, show us. Go ahead and do it yourself and brag about it with pics and a wiring diagram.
can you even wire those switches like so? if the connections are bridged between top and bottom then it's gonna short immediately
Just think power window
that setup shits itself if you've got two switches wired parallel
Why would you have 2 switches in parallel?
It's reverse polarity.
You only need 1 switch per motor.
did you even read the OP? he wants two switches per motor. dumbass
What he wants is stupid.
no its not its to control something manualy
No, it really is stupid.
running power to a motor through a switch you physically touch is a fantastic idea, especially when you have to ask how to do it
Yes that is what I worried about
I want 2 switches do the same thing, but one automaticly goes back to 0 and the other one is permanent switch
so if permanent switch is on and I press the button for the other switch then it would short right?
>if permanent switch is on and I press the button for the other switch then it would short right?
yes that's correct. so either you separate the toggle switches and spring switches with an additional switch or you buy some relays or an arduino. just wiring the switches you got now isn't going to cut it
H-bridge on one switch is simple enough. Parallel switched bridges risk "shoot-through" shorting. Wikipedia has this to say about that:
>A further variation is the half-controlled bridge, where the low-side switching device on one side of the bridge, and the high-side switching device on the opposite side of the bridge, are each replaced with diodes. This eliminates the shoot-through failure mode, and is commonly used to drive variable or switched reluctance machines and actuators where bi-directional current flow is not require
really you should be using a $3 atmel microcontroller to an h-bridge hat. literally the whole point of software/cpus is that its cheaper/easier to do non-trivial stuff in sw than try to r&d it with pure hardware
yeah and then you need 4 motors/bridges/hats, shit to program the cpu (clearly op is moronic etc)
op i would buy 4 dpst relays and 4 dpdt relays
use one side of each switch for motor on and OR all 4 of them them into dpst, the other half of the switch use one side for direction and or both of them into dpdt relay set up as a reverser.
one direction will take precedence and nothing will blow up or short out.
yee, this is the analog way.
4 stepper motors, a power supply and an arduino/motor controller to drive it is like $60 nowadays.just ender 3d printer guts, shit is cheap as hell
dude im not gonna waste 60 bucks are you high
i am gonna pay money to wire and solder use
I would get myself different momentary switches for that. You might need to use ones with too many poles instead of just two, depending on availability. If this specific type of switch is not available or is too expensive, I would mess with relays.
Actually, sourcing DP3T switches that aren't momentary might be easier, but the circuit can easily be ajusted for that.
another way to do it is you could use 2P4T rotary switches for constant move switches, rotary centre to motor, positions are forward, back, off, mom. at mom position motor is connected to the second switch. this will prevent shorts but momentary switch will not work if the rotary is moving or off, only mom position.
OFF + MOM is redundant, just have them be the same set of contacts
Someone mentioned power window circuits. I think that's the right approach. Study the diagram for the right front passenger side motor and you'll see why it's idiot proof.
The rest contacts on the pass switch go to ground. The middle contacts go to battery on both switches.
Running the power through the switches seems to be no big deal.