Because they have no idea what they are doing and are still hoping the west keeps cucking by not sending >500km ammo. That bridge should have been taken down long ago.
this. Russia is a bunch of fetal alcohol syndrome vodka Black folk and the only reason its having any success is cause the west / NATO / USA is a bunch of pussy homosexuals
This bridge is so fricked, after that bridge in kherson slowly got chipped to pieces it just shows there is no level of resources Russia could apply to protect it
What are you even trying to say? I'm wondering if the Ukrainian jets can get close enough with all those S-400 systems etc around that bridge. And yes I know that they can shout down JDAM-(ERs).
1 year ago
Anonymous
no Ukrainian jet dares to fly high anywhere.
no chance they can get near enough that bridge for toss bombing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You can toss bomb from the deck
Obviously it limits your range a bit but we're still talking more than fifty kilometres for JDAM-ER
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And yes I know that they can shout down JDAM-(ERs). >shout down JDAM-(ERs). >shout down
Nice try Pajeet. Now get on your knees to apologize to your Vatnick masters by 'worshiping his idol'
In theory maybe. But if BT2's are shitting all over Vatnik air defenses there is now way they are intercepting what is basically a WW2 era bomb with the fancy stuff on the nose. You're talking of a RCS of a big bird.
1 year ago
Anonymous
BT2 haven't been a threat since a long time ago.
RuAF learned to use SHORAD.
>Ukraine lacks the range to hit it with stuff
Hrim-2
Which we know they have some number of them stockpiled, given they bothered to ask Saudi Arabia to send back the launch vehicle they had sold them earlier.
The Saudis obliged and indeed gave it back.
The Ukrainians wouldn't have bothered asking if they didn't need it for anything.
The Ukrainians are probably husbanding a small quantity of the missiles and building what few they can here-and-there. They have no more than a few dozen I'd imagine. Were the US/EU smart they would be facilitating the manufacturer of more. Gives the Ukrainians ATACMS capabilities without giving them actual ATACMS. Even if the components now come from the USA, UK, and France at the end of the day.
>Were the US/EU smart they would be facilitating the manufacturer of more. Gives the Ukrainians ATACMS capabilities without giving them actual ATACMS
This is so obvious I'm sure it's been happening for nearly a year. Ukraine provides the specs, the free world has their companies build the parts, supply to Ukraine for final assembly.
>Were the US/EU smart they would be facilitating the manufacturer of more. Gives the Ukrainians ATACMS capabilities without giving them actual ATACMS
This is so obvious I'm sure it's been happening for nearly a year. Ukraine provides the specs, the free world has their companies build the parts, supply to Ukraine for final assembly.
The GRIM-II seemed to have passed all tests but had troubles specifically in the accuracy of its guidance systems. If America decided to help Ukraine get its CEP even within decades old GMLRS accuracy of 10m, we'd be talking serious business.
Drop a semi-submersible drone boat into the sea of Azov with the GPS cords for the bridge supports. Simple as.
Russia however could still ferry supplies back and forth across the narrow strait to roads on either side, and possibly even dam the whole Sea of Azov and build a land corridor. AFAIK it's a narrow and shallow passage between. If they think Ukraine is destined to take the northern shore back but they think they can maybe keep Crimea makes strategic sense too.
But they only need ONE hit to that bridge. It's not like they need to hit consistently in that range. What specops could they do to destroy that target?
It's not as bad as some would say, the rest of Kherson/Zaporizhia and Crimea will not just fall like a house of cards after this
But it becomes pointless for Russia to attempt anything offensively other than reconnecting their fronts to get back to the situation as it is now
it would prove that Ukraine really does have the chops to eventually retake all of their lost territory so long as support continues, as opposed to just not losing
resuppling by small boats wont be at all sufficient to feed and stock ammunition for 100k soldiers
theyd have to resort to resupply by air and you can guess how well that will turn out
it would start the official countdown to total russian defeat in ukraine and no amount of cope or elon musk/tucker carlson tweets about impending nuclear warfare could stop the inevitable.
>Da Comrade. We form frontlines to be perfectly straight so our uber israelite likes the lines. Just like Hoi4
/k/ used to have really solid takes on strategy, logistics and everything else involved in war. But since this this started I'm seeing morons like you with pre-school education at best claiming to be Zhukov (a mediocre at best commander btw).
OP is 100% right that this is a major weakness and something that has been fueled by politics and nothing else. Without the political factor noone in Russia's shoes would be like "Hurrr get entire spearheads evaporated but hold on too these coastal bits". Barring very defensible terrain their most western point of contact should be around Melitopol. Since it's been proven they can't advance or push everything else is causing a frontwide weakness.
The "land bridge" has no suitable rail line through it. The Russians only have roads there. The only rail line connecting all of Kherson and Crimea to Russia is through the Kerch bridge.
>The "land bridge" has no suitable rail line through it. The Russians only have roads there.
This is true/ >The only rail line connecting all of Kherson and Crimea to Russia is through the Kerch bridge.
This is false. There is a rail line from Melitopol to Sebastapol, it crosses the salt marsh here
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.9525869,34.4785037,741m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4
>no....everything except for Bakhmut was just reconnaissance of some kind wasn't it?
Well... someone could probably call it "reconnaissance by force", but in fact it was "Throwing everything they can scrape up and hope the best"
It was all they were capable of. That was the surge and the offensive from the last wave of mobilization. Now they’re talking about doing another wave to be ready after the next Ukrainian offensive.
Like this is all they have left. The artillery fire rate from Russian forces is 1/10th what it was like 10 months ago. They’re just running themselves ragged and everyone on the Russian side is basically blowing through whatever ammo they have to justify getting away from the front.
Like it’s weird to say while things are going on because you don’t want to curse anything, but Russia has been in a process of losing everything for the last 11 months.
It was a full on attack, just not a very good one.
After the first and second waves were destroyed along with thier vehicles, the third wave came in on foot, which tells you just how bad the situation has really gotten for the russians
>except Nukes
And chemical warfare, too, though I think that's the far more likely moronic mistake monke might make. I'm sort of surprised it hasn't happened yet. >inb4 Azovstal rumors
The Russian winter offensive took half of Bakhmut east of the river and made large gains in surrounding the city to the north and south, threatening the western highway but not cutting it. After the flanking move the offensive seemed to run out of steam or paused operationally for some reason. This was largely a Wagner operation. Old Wagner troops are much better than the average mobik and minority contract soldier— I have no idea how the introduction of felons impacted things. Evidently not enough for Ukraine to hold the city east of the river, but still hold them off west of it. Probably lacking significant cross-river movement capability.
I’m really curious how the flanking moves played out. It feels like Wagner noticed the flanks were weak so tried to do a rapid encirclement but the Ukrainians reacted fast enough to block them. The road in being threatened now but it’s unlikely Wagner has the means to bring enough accurate firepower to bear in order to cut it. Supporting Russian artillery probably can’t either being (assumed) in conservation mode and not being able to hit anything except by extreme chance anyway.
>no....everything except for Bakhmut was just reconnaissance of some kind wasn't it?
Well... someone could probably call it "reconnaissance by force", but in fact it was "Throwing everything they can scrape up and hope the best"
So now they lick their wounds while thinking about what they'll do during the ukie counteroffensive? I haven't read /k/ for two weeks, how's the vatnik shill lately?
They were shifting pretty rapidly from narrative to narrative for a few weeks there, IIRC it was something like: >The encirclement and fall of Bakhmut is imminent >The fall of Bakhmut (via frontal assault) is imminent >The encirclement (but not fall) of Bakhmut is imminent >There was no plan to encircle Bakmut, the actual plan was to attrit Ukrainian forces in the area >The collapse of the Ukrainian army through attrition is imminent
For now they seem to have settled on "well Russia still holds SOME Ukrainian territory so that means they win!"
No one but Russia recognizes it as Russian land.
Meanwhile you have fricking saboteurs in Belgorod and Rostov, in addition to partisans in Russian occupied territories.
They were shifting pretty rapidly from narrative to narrative for a few weeks there, IIRC it was something like: >The encirclement and fall of Bakhmut is imminent >The fall of Bakhmut (via frontal assault) is imminent >The encirclement (but not fall) of Bakhmut is imminent >There was no plan to encircle Bakmut, the actual plan was to attrit Ukrainian forces in the area >The collapse of the Ukrainian army through attrition is imminent
For now they seem to have settled on "well Russia still holds SOME Ukrainian territory so that means they win!"
so not much really happened then. >The collapse of the Ukrainian army through attrition is imminent
I really love this line because it's the usual projection; it seems like the Ukrainians weren't really throwing in anything or anyone overly valuable in response to the flank and assault, and yet the position is still managing to attrite more from the Russians, to the point where they halted for fear of a counter attack or encirclement of their encirclement just fricking punching through their lines.
the battle for zaporizhia may unironically define the future of russia. the russians say that this is an existential war as a form of propaganda, but i think they are right.
i still have doubts that ukraine can do it, but if they can, then this war is over and so is russias current government.
Quite crazy as it would probably scare shit out of the western allies, but would probably be also quite effictive as it would immediately send russian frontline into scrambling. Also helps that there is barely any russian defences on the area.
It's crazy that the Russians don't consider belgorod a front at all. An 85 IQ HOI4 player such as myself is left to conclude either the Russian leadership is as moronic as I am, or so terrified of losing parts of Russia proper that they're prepared to pretend that they can't launch an attack from that boarder at all.
I genuinely don't understand why Russia doesn't keep invading through Ukraine's northeastern border. I mean, sure, they were pushed back in the past. One of their only real advantages is superior numbers. Why don't they use these numbers to open as many fronts as possible to spread Ukraine's army thin?
Because Russia doesn't have the troops, vehicles, and supplies to do it.
If they can't take a small shithole like Bahkmut now, they can't take any relevant northern Ukraine city. They couldn't do it even at the start when they had the relative element of surprise.
But the point wouldn't be to capture any major cities, it would be to force Ukraine to defend the entire border rather than just the border of occupied territory.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's what Ukrainian territorial defence forces are for.
Anon you're not thinking wild enough >Stoke fires of rebellion in Belarus >Ukraine supports a coup in Minsk >Lukashenko is replaced with a pro-Ukraine leader >Belarus demands Russia withdraw from Ukraine
The racism both sides have launched at each other is out of this world. Russian state media is literally calling Ukrainians animals:
?t=170
And of course Ukrainians unironically call them orcs. Neither side admits the other is even human. I wonder what kind of cultural damage this will lead to in the future.
>And of course Ukrainians unironically call them orcs.
The Russians were calling themselves orcs, and doing so to relate their war to a fricking LOTR fanfic
The russians were literally calling themselves orcs first. Also frick them, nothing wrong with being racist to russians. I hope they all fricking die. I will stop hoping that when they get the frick out of Ukraine.
Don't confuse the lying, hateful, warmongering zionist corporate media with the everyday people. Deep down, Russians and Ukrainians are Christian brothers and Slavs, but that doesn't make money or prolong the war. The media teaches you to hate so they can justify their dirty war and convince you to kill the dehumanized enemy.
>Deep down, Russians and Ukrainians are Christian brothers and Slavs, but that doesn't make money or prolong the war.
You know what would end the war immediately? Russia acknowledging that Ukrainians are their christian, slav bothers, and hanging Putin from a lamp post so they can leave the Ukraine in peace.
Ukraine taking mariupol would create huge cauldron. Ukraine should instead use the lake as one shoulder, push towards Krimea dig in and then push with reserves to Mariupol.
Whether they have the means to do this + still keep all other defenses working in other areas + have emergency troops to protect Kiyev and Lviv - that we dont know.
Iwager not.
Imho Ukraine could bait Russia out of position by sacrificing something like Kheraon. It would be a nightmare for russians logistocs wise and ukkies could mine every single house. but they need to organize any attack with perfect timing. Imo this is why they all wait for new tech to arrive before doing anything
By having another strategic weakness: being Russia.
Because they have no idea what they are doing and are still hoping the west keeps cucking by not sending >500km ammo. That bridge should have been taken down long ago.
Send in the expert.
not Putin don't do it!
What does Pewds have to do with all this?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bridge+incident+pewdiepie
That his happened is a good thing. He would have hated beind under the Mouse's control.
this. Russia is a bunch of fetal alcohol syndrome vodka Black folk and the only reason its having any success is cause the west / NATO / USA is a bunch of pussy homosexuals
This, the US really should send ATACMS if they want results.
The narrow-ish land corridor there isn't what Russia wanted to take, it's what they could take. Ukraine gets a bit of a vote too here you know.
This bridge is so fricked, after that bridge in kherson slowly got chipped to pieces it just shows there is no level of resources Russia could apply to protect it
Ukraine lacks the range to hit it with stuff
Once they start getting longer ranged munitions. I bet right now they could just start lobbing JDAMS at it right now.
Vatniks have some layers AA around that bridge now. I wonder if jets can get close enough to drop some smart JDAMS
smart JDAMS?
HUH?
JDAM-ERs
Not all JDAMS just go straight into service, some attend college first
do Ukies even have enough fighters to drop enough JDAMs in one strike to kill a bridge?
JDAMs have much higher warhead weight than things like HIMARs rockets
and they can be toss bombed from far away
do you even know what AA is?
AA can shoot down JDAMS, too.
>AA made by white men can shoot down JDAMs, too.
fify. Kerch Bridge is fricked
What are you even trying to say? I'm wondering if the Ukrainian jets can get close enough with all those S-400 systems etc around that bridge. And yes I know that they can shout down JDAM-(ERs).
no Ukrainian jet dares to fly high anywhere.
no chance they can get near enough that bridge for toss bombing.
You can toss bomb from the deck
Obviously it limits your range a bit but we're still talking more than fifty kilometres for JDAM-ER
>And yes I know that they can shout down JDAM-(ERs).
>shout down JDAM-(ERs).
>shout down
Nice try Pajeet. Now get on your knees to apologize to your Vatnick masters by 'worshiping his idol'
>noooo muh hecking typo
In theory maybe. But if BT2's are shitting all over Vatnik air defenses there is now way they are intercepting what is basically a WW2 era bomb with the fancy stuff on the nose. You're talking of a RCS of a big bird.
BT2 haven't been a threat since a long time ago.
RuAF learned to use SHORAD.
and that bridge is heavily protected.
>dolphins
FLIPPER, NOOOOO
They're HATO mercenaries disguised as dolphins
If the Ukrainians just do a barrel roll they would knock that shit out 100% guaranteed
>Ukraine lacks the range to hit it with stuff
Hrim-2
Which we know they have some number of them stockpiled, given they bothered to ask Saudi Arabia to send back the launch vehicle they had sold them earlier.
The Saudis obliged and indeed gave it back.
The Ukrainians wouldn't have bothered asking if they didn't need it for anything.
The Ukrainians are probably husbanding a small quantity of the missiles and building what few they can here-and-there. They have no more than a few dozen I'd imagine. Were the US/EU smart they would be facilitating the manufacturer of more. Gives the Ukrainians ATACMS capabilities without giving them actual ATACMS. Even if the components now come from the USA, UK, and France at the end of the day.
>Were the US/EU smart they would be facilitating the manufacturer of more. Gives the Ukrainians ATACMS capabilities without giving them actual ATACMS
This is so obvious I'm sure it's been happening for nearly a year. Ukraine provides the specs, the free world has their companies build the parts, supply to Ukraine for final assembly.
The GRIM-II seemed to have passed all tests but had troubles specifically in the accuracy of its guidance systems. If America decided to help Ukraine get its CEP even within decades old GMLRS accuracy of 10m, we'd be talking serious business.
Drop a semi-submersible drone boat into the sea of Azov with the GPS cords for the bridge supports. Simple as.
Russia however could still ferry supplies back and forth across the narrow strait to roads on either side, and possibly even dam the whole Sea of Azov and build a land corridor. AFAIK it's a narrow and shallow passage between. If they think Ukraine is destined to take the northern shore back but they think they can maybe keep Crimea makes strategic sense too.
But they only need ONE hit to that bridge. It's not like they need to hit consistently in that range. What specops could they do to destroy that target?
they have had the range for a long time dipshit.
So when the Ukrainians cut Russian forces in half, how bad will things get for Vatniks?
It's not as bad as some would say, the rest of Kherson/Zaporizhia and Crimea will not just fall like a house of cards after this
But it becomes pointless for Russia to attempt anything offensively other than reconnecting their fronts to get back to the situation as it is now
it would prove that Ukraine really does have the chops to eventually retake all of their lost territory so long as support continues, as opposed to just not losing
resuppling by small boats wont be at all sufficient to feed and stock ammunition for 100k soldiers
theyd have to resort to resupply by air and you can guess how well that will turn out
it would start the official countdown to total russian defeat in ukraine and no amount of cope or elon musk/tucker carlson tweets about impending nuclear warfare could stop the inevitable.
this looks like a trap.
let Ukies rush to Mariupol, then close the cauldron.
You have no idea of how maneuver warfare looks like
you have no idea why frontlines are always straight despite seeing nothing else but
>Da Comrade. We form frontlines to be perfectly straight so our uber israelite likes the lines. Just like Hoi4
/k/ used to have really solid takes on strategy, logistics and everything else involved in war. But since this this started I'm seeing morons like you with pre-school education at best claiming to be Zhukov (a mediocre at best commander btw).
OP is 100% right that this is a major weakness and something that has been fueled by politics and nothing else. Without the political factor noone in Russia's shoes would be like "Hurrr get entire spearheads evaporated but hold on too these coastal bits". Barring very defensible terrain their most western point of contact should be around Melitopol. Since it's been proven they can't advance or push everything else is causing a frontwide weakness.
Why can’t Hohols take any of this territory back?
All me. I have aids btw and I shit on the pavement
>and I shit on the pavement
Indian here, where else are you supposed to shit, SIR
Isn't that the guy that took charge and then gave up the only regional capital Russia took and then was demoted?
weak
On no, not the general Imgettinouttakherson.
AMGEDDINOUTTAHERE!!!
Пapнишa, ты щac oбocpaлcя нepeaльнo. Oт тeбя вcё eщё гoвнoм пacёт. Иди пoмoйcя и пoтoм тoлькo пpихoди co взpocлыми пoбaзapить. Mypлoфaн ёбaный...
I still feel sorry for the poor bastard, getting blamed for the whole thing when he was some shmuck delivery guy.
The "land bridge" has no suitable rail line through it. The Russians only have roads there. The only rail line connecting all of Kherson and Crimea to Russia is through the Kerch bridge.
>The "land bridge" has no suitable rail line through it. The Russians only have roads there.
This is true/
>The only rail line connecting all of Kherson and Crimea to Russia is through the Kerch bridge.
This is false. There is a rail line from Melitopol to Sebastapol, it crosses the salt marsh here
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.9525869,34.4785037,741m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4
Where is the Russian offensive?
it already happened
im serious
no....everything except for Bakhmut was just reconnaissance of some kind wasn't it?
>no....everything except for Bakhmut was just reconnaissance of some kind wasn't it?
Well... someone could probably call it "reconnaissance by force", but in fact it was "Throwing everything they can scrape up and hope the best"
It was all they were capable of. That was the surge and the offensive from the last wave of mobilization. Now they’re talking about doing another wave to be ready after the next Ukrainian offensive.
Like this is all they have left. The artillery fire rate from Russian forces is 1/10th what it was like 10 months ago. They’re just running themselves ragged and everyone on the Russian side is basically blowing through whatever ammo they have to justify getting away from the front.
Like it’s weird to say while things are going on because you don’t want to curse anything, but Russia has been in a process of losing everything for the last 11 months.
vuhledar alone saw them getting one of their better detachments getting absolutely wrecked (144th). to the point they were bordeline mutiny.
zigger are now doing the same thing whenever anybody has bad news they dont want spread. Either be silent about it or claim it never happened.
My brain was bracing for the zombie screamer from that old video lol
It was a full on attack, just not a very good one.
After the first and second waves were destroyed along with thier vehicles, the third wave came in on foot, which tells you just how bad the situation has really gotten for the russians
Is pretending the Russian winter offensive didn't happen and fail the new cope?
Same energy
Norf is eternal.
>hundreds of Russian vehicles lost in Vulhedar "probing attacks"
honestly the fact that Russia is still flying airplanes is a testament to how much of a bunch of pussys we the USA/NATO are.
we should've given Ukraine ATACMs on day 1
I agree. What fricking red line are we talking about here? Russia is sending everything they have except Nukes at Ukranian people
>except Nukes
And chemical warfare, too, though I think that's the far more likely moronic mistake monke might make. I'm sort of surprised it hasn't happened yet.
>inb4 Azovstal rumors
The Russian winter offensive took half of Bakhmut east of the river and made large gains in surrounding the city to the north and south, threatening the western highway but not cutting it. After the flanking move the offensive seemed to run out of steam or paused operationally for some reason. This was largely a Wagner operation. Old Wagner troops are much better than the average mobik and minority contract soldier— I have no idea how the introduction of felons impacted things. Evidently not enough for Ukraine to hold the city east of the river, but still hold them off west of it. Probably lacking significant cross-river movement capability.
I’m really curious how the flanking moves played out. It feels like Wagner noticed the flanks were weak so tried to do a rapid encirclement but the Ukrainians reacted fast enough to block them. The road in being threatened now but it’s unlikely Wagner has the means to bring enough accurate firepower to bear in order to cut it. Supporting Russian artillery probably can’t either being (assumed) in conservation mode and not being able to hit anything except by extreme chance anyway.
So now they lick their wounds while thinking about what they'll do during the ukie counteroffensive? I haven't read /k/ for two weeks, how's the vatnik shill lately?
They won't say anything different or deviate from the same things they've been saying for months.
Well yeah, they're not known for their creativity, but there's definitively a correlation between real life events and the amount of shitpost.
They were hyping up the drone collision as a major victory against NATO for a few days
They've gone full Serbia-tier by treating this drone incident like it's a F-117 Nighthawk.
They were shifting pretty rapidly from narrative to narrative for a few weeks there, IIRC it was something like:
>The encirclement and fall of Bakhmut is imminent
>The fall of Bakhmut (via frontal assault) is imminent
>The encirclement (but not fall) of Bakhmut is imminent
>There was no plan to encircle Bakmut, the actual plan was to attrit Ukrainian forces in the area
>The collapse of the Ukrainian army through attrition is imminent
For now they seem to have settled on "well Russia still holds SOME Ukrainian territory so that means they win!"
Those four oblasts are part of Russia proper though. Ukraine currently occupies Russian land.
No one but Russia recognizes it as Russian land.
Meanwhile you have fricking saboteurs in Belgorod and Rostov, in addition to partisans in Russian occupied territories.
so not much really happened then.
>The collapse of the Ukrainian army through attrition is imminent
I really love this line because it's the usual projection; it seems like the Ukrainians weren't really throwing in anything or anyone overly valuable in response to the flank and assault, and yet the position is still managing to attrite more from the Russians, to the point where they halted for fear of a counter attack or encirclement of their encirclement just fricking punching through their lines.
putting transphobes in leadership positions tend to do that
ive been PrepHole of town for a little over 2 weeks, what did I miss? I saw a few spicy webms. anything else?
hows baxmut doing?
A Russian drunkenly slammed into a Reaper and the pilot got awarded for it
the battle for zaporizhia may unironically define the future of russia. the russians say that this is an existential war as a form of propaganda, but i think they are right.
i still have doubts that ukraine can do it, but if they can, then this war is over and so is russias current government.
If Ukraine counter atacks in the Mauripol direction that is going to be a stupid move.
>why?
Way too predictable
Wild card b***hes
How crazy and/or effective would a real assault toward Belgorod be?
Quite crazy as it would probably scare shit out of the western allies, but would probably be also quite effictive as it would immediately send russian frontline into scrambling. Also helps that there is barely any russian defences on the area.
It's crazy that the Russians don't consider belgorod a front at all. An 85 IQ HOI4 player such as myself is left to conclude either the Russian leadership is as moronic as I am, or so terrified of losing parts of Russia proper that they're prepared to pretend that they can't launch an attack from that boarder at all.
I genuinely don't understand why Russia doesn't keep invading through Ukraine's northeastern border. I mean, sure, they were pushed back in the past. One of their only real advantages is superior numbers. Why don't they use these numbers to open as many fronts as possible to spread Ukraine's army thin?
Because Russia doesn't have the troops, vehicles, and supplies to do it.
If they can't take a small shithole like Bahkmut now, they can't take any relevant northern Ukraine city. They couldn't do it even at the start when they had the relative element of surprise.
But the point wouldn't be to capture any major cities, it would be to force Ukraine to defend the entire border rather than just the border of occupied territory.
That's what Ukrainian territorial defence forces are for.
you have no idea what the terrain is like there, do you?
A flat plane like almost all of Ukraine.
Anon you're not thinking wild enough
>Stoke fires of rebellion in Belarus
>Ukraine supports a coup in Minsk
>Lukashenko is replaced with a pro-Ukraine leader
>Belarus demands Russia withdraw from Ukraine
Imagine the seethe if Ukraine actually crosses the border into Russia. I hope they have the balls to do it.
OSOI!
HEH.. TAKE THAT YOU STUPID PIGS
The racism both sides have launched at each other is out of this world. Russian state media is literally calling Ukrainians animals:
?t=170
And of course Ukrainians unironically call them orcs. Neither side admits the other is even human. I wonder what kind of cultural damage this will lead to in the future.
>And of course Ukrainians unironically call them orcs.
The Russians were calling themselves orcs, and doing so to relate their war to a fricking LOTR fanfic
The russians were literally calling themselves orcs first. Also frick them, nothing wrong with being racist to russians. I hope they all fricking die. I will stop hoping that when they get the frick out of Ukraine.
It's not racism, it's ethnic hatred. This is all the same race, barring the Asian subjects of the Russian empire
>western liberals discover for the first time how the balkans work
Don't confuse the lying, hateful, warmongering zionist corporate media with the everyday people. Deep down, Russians and Ukrainians are Christian brothers and Slavs, but that doesn't make money or prolong the war. The media teaches you to hate so they can justify their dirty war and convince you to kill the dehumanized enemy.
>Deep down, Russians and Ukrainians are Christian brothers and Slavs, but that doesn't make money or prolong the war.
You know what would end the war immediately? Russia acknowledging that Ukrainians are their christian, slav bothers, and hanging Putin from a lamp post so they can leave the Ukraine in peace.
This has been the case in every war since forever, also Ukraine and Russia have a long history of ethnic hatred for each other
>how did the US allow itself to have such a huge strategic weakness?
implessive
Vietnam sure is taking awhle
no russian is illegal.
let them in.
Ukraine taking mariupol would create huge cauldron. Ukraine should instead use the lake as one shoulder, push towards Krimea dig in and then push with reserves to Mariupol.
Whether they have the means to do this + still keep all other defenses working in other areas + have emergency troops to protect Kiyev and Lviv - that we dont know.
Iwager not.
Imho Ukraine could bait Russia out of position by sacrificing something like Kheraon. It would be a nightmare for russians logistocs wise and ukkies could mine every single house. but they need to organize any attack with perfect timing. Imo this is why they all wait for new tech to arrive before doing anything