How come stick grenades fell out of favor? Are they just inferior designs to everything we have now?

How come stick grenades fell out of favor? Are they just inferior designs to everything we have now?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Size and weight. Extra range provided by the handle isn't that big of a deal since 40mm grenade launchers are so common.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They are fricking huge.

      They're big and awkward to carry around.
      /thread.

      Why not just create a grenade with a foldable stick?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >reddit frog
        >absolutely moronic post

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Only redditards trying to fit in get upset at pepe

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >n-no u

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        already happened.
        why carry bulky grenades when you can carry regular grenades and keep this thing in your backpack incase of emergencies

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How can you mash potatoes with that flimsy plastic twig?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What model of grenade is that? I ask purely out of curiosity of course.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            M67. The standard American frag since the Vietnam War days.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know much about grenades, but why replace the MK2 with that? I'd assume that the square segments on the MK2 would turn into some pretty devastating shrapnel compared to the smooth M67.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Look at a diagram of the M67.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What about it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Find a bisection and see what the body is made of. Keword search "shrapnel coil".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, M26 has a 'shrapnel coil' under a tinplate outer, the M67 has internal cross-hatching of the metal body

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >fas.org
                lol
                look at a slow motion m67 explosion. or pic related when it doesn't fracture as designed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The square segments were found to not do that much in comparison to a spherical one

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The inside of the M67 is stamped to make lots of dimples which convert into a even spray of several thousand fragments.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As other anons have mentioned, the patterning is on the inside

                They concluded that the patterning on the outside didnt affect frag pattern so it was moved to the inside

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                another important detail others didn't mention is that the US military actually wanted a grenade that was baseball shaped to take advantage of the fact that a lot of young men likely to see military service would be familiar throwing a baseball and felt having that familiarity translate to throwing a grenade would be a good idea.

                I sure hope that's not just fuddlore, I'm pretty sure that was part of their instruction to Ordinance for the change in shape

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Okay hear me out. What if we made grenades spherical and equipped soldiers with one cheap plastic jai alai paddle? They'd have a ton more range and it wouldn't add much weight to the kit.

          I should have read the whole thread. I am embarrassed.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Don't be embarrassed. It's always good to learn, and if that involves asking a few questions that seem dumb later, it's worth it!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            its ok we all get excited to post and your contribution was still good anon

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And what happens when your dog brings back the grenade?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ahhh good, atlatl technology making an appearance
          I have always been annoyed that Western militaries ignored the value of the long stick arm extender just because it was a Native American weapon/tool and this was seen as primitive. They really do add a ton of power and length to your throwing arm
          (Yes, I am aware that is a chuck-it dog toy, I have one myself)

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >just because it was a Native American weapon/tool and this was seen as primitive
            it was seen as primitive because it's a primitive tool that everyone else didn't use since fricking neolithic, they fell out of favor in more civilized parts of the world as soon as throwing spears became obsolete and bows were invented

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I like how aztecboos pretend it was some sort of revolutionary invention that no one else knew about.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If you need to dispense your explosive that far, we have better ways to do it, while the atlatl makes precision throwing harder, especially for someone who's spent a childhood throwing a ball vs a couple of range days playing with it at basic at most.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I sold these, the thing would break at the worst possible time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >grenade-atlatl doubles as a spaghetti spoon
          Absolute fricking genius.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why carry something like that? just give a sling to the machinegunner

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I KNEEL

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Bring tape.
        Find stick.
        Tape grenade to stick.
        Pull pin, throw grenade stick.
        Still have more tape for, hell i don't know, but it's tape. Don't have to carry around a bunch of homosexuals, I mean sticks.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They are fricking huge.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're big and awkward to carry around.
    /thread.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But can be inserted into anus 😉

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When the explosive goes off the wooden handle shoots right back at you and hits you in the head.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It also produces a distinct and loud *BONK* sound, a tactical disadvantage.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The mission of throwing grenades farther than a normal hand grenade is filled by grenade launchers.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Grenade launchers exist.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They were nerfed for being too effective against medics

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're now associated with nazis and nobody wants to be in that boat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Russia and Japan used them too, though.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >being in the same grouping as Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and USSR
        Do you hear yourself right now?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >all the bad guys are using them, anon
        Would you use meth if the bad guys used it too?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So you're saying I should use meth if a good guy is?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >being in the same grouping as Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and USSR
        Do you hear yourself right now?

        >all the bad guys are using them, anon
        Would you use meth if the bad guys used it too?

        You forgot the brits, they adopted them in 1908 after reports of the nips using something like that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And China and North Korea, since we are being precise today. Good chance they have been superceded by newer models, but I would fully expect a hundred thousand crates of stick grenades from storage show up on that future battlefield.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That is the most British looking device I have ever seen

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Also, the Chinese (red and nationalist)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ukrainians sure do

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they're inferior in every respect to spherical grenades which is why every country that had stick grenades initially abandoned them for orbs.

    the germans and the russians basically used them out of inertia and they had spherical hand grenades in use at the same time as well.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the germans and the russians basically used them out of inertia and they had spherical hand grenades in use at the same time as well.

      I saw the Military History Visualized video proving even /ourguys produced and used more egg grenades than stick. The illusion is created by stick grenades being far easier to spot in photos and also, since most ww2 photos were posed, chosen as a clear German signifier. As identifiable as the helmet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >ourguys
        >gun grabbing race socialists

        Well if you're talking about 2023 /k/ I guess youre right

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >they're inferior in every respect
      You get like twice the range.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Inferior in every respect
      Can your fancy spheres do THIS?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You can make a stackable lightsaber with some new grenade designs.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Okay hear me out. What if we made grenades spherical and equipped soldiers with one cheap plastic jai alai paddle? They'd have a ton more range and it wouldn't add much weight to the kit.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's heavy, and big. Yes it can be thrown further, faster and more accurately with less training.
    But it's the same reason cops don't use the PR24 and switch to the baton
    size and weight

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Did you know that you can get the same range advantage of the stick with none of the bulk by attaching a rope to the grenade and swinging it by the end?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Like an exploding bola perdida!
      >inb4 some MP or officer comes in and complains that it's adding too many steps

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can we all agree the Mills Granade is the most aesthetic?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >named after organ and not fruit it resembles.
      nah I pass.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Bugger off, ya bloody sod

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's a weird picture and way to show off the aesthetic V40.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I wish more games had these. I got SOG Prairie Fire but it's too autistic for me to play 1p. I don't even know if it's in that

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Marines were shoving them up their asses

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bulkier just to give you a few extra yards of a throw. We're not really fighting trench warfare so don't need to throw grenades that far.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    For the weight of a wooden stick you can carry more actual grenades.
    >every other country that tried stick grenades in WW1 got rid of them by 1918, only Germans were stuck with them until midWW2 and even they finally changed over to Ei granaten.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn’t also help that Germans liked to use their stick grenades in their military symbolism, clearly even they themselves thought of them as iconic German military weapon.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Guess I'll post this here. I'm so tired of seeing people post that grenades aren't dangerous.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whats the story here? That homosexual get caught later or get away?
      and how many dead?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Gang violence in South America. I don't know many died, but you don't see the guy with the red brim hat walk out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I find it funny how out of all the people there, only one looked at the object thrown into their place and ran for cover.
      Do they have no self-preservation instinct?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's a bar. There's probably loud music playing and everyone is preoccupied with activities to notice.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Also they're probably drunk.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >HURR WHY DON'T PEOPLE WATCH OUT FOR HAND GRENADES 24/7 ESPECIALYL WHEN THEY ARE IN A BAR AT NIGHT DURR

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's South America maybe they should

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think I could resist the urge to yell "GRENADE!!!" like in my WW2 animes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      malmö moment.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Neat. I never actually seen a video of a grenade used against people

      Do people really think they aren’t dangerous though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I always see someone saying grenades aren't deadly because it doesn't instantly kill people.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Even if they don’t instantly kill you you’re still going to taken out of the fight like that guy with no hand and beat up legs in the video

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >video games where grenades have an exactly 0.5m lethal radius and a three second timer and a warning indicator and a deafeningly loud voice line and a thirty second skill cooldown
        >footage of soldiers getting grenaded and not turning into a pile of hamburger

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      8 Ball corner pocket!

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because the soldiers stick it in their buttholes.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Easier for people who don't know how to throw to throw, but worse in every other way.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese still use stick grenades called the Type 77, I think it's a weird left over thing from their military exchange with Germany in the 20s and 30s.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I bet they stick this in their trainee's butthole.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The forbidden maracas.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone ever tried filling the stick with more high explosives? The stick could stop being dead weight and instead give you the most powerful hand grenade with enough extra lobbing distance to make it safe

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the stick increases the maximum effective range of the grenade. However it makes it weird as frick to carry around so nobody uses them anymore. Unless you're a wild ass ukrainian/russian right now strapping rpg projectiles together and then tossing them at somebody

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    post your favorite stick grenade anons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        dats a propa tankhamma

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >round grenades
    >stick grenades
    that's sissy shit

    ENTER.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Like an exploding bola perdida!
      >inb4 some MP or officer comes in and complains that it's adding too many steps

      YES.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like stick grenades. Even if they're functionally inferior to other designs, they seem comfy, intuitive, and aesthetic.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the grenade itself so much different? Why isn't it just pic-related on a stick?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stick grenades are concussion grenades so they disable the enemy with the explosion itself, rather than fragmentation. frag grenades are better defensively and concussion grenades are better offensively.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Too big and awkward and the stick often fricks up the nature of the explosion and fragmentations pattern

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